Facts, dont feed into their egos dont give them satisfaction dont feed into the meta spam

Yup. Blame the state of the game.

I combo far enough to play thru one thing just in case. One time I made a 4 negate appo and used it all 4 times on a battle fader

100%

This!

One step away from Solitaire

Facts which is why I play retro formats

@@UTgohan same

Retro formats >>>

@@TheLastSane1it already is bruh, the only reason people don’t is because those sweaty ass nerds want someone to watch them play with themselves for 20min 💀

“no joke 15 minute turns” get good.

Exactly

so what, do you just surrender every game where you go second then? lol

@@RaidZeroh considering I’m casual and only play online and at best will play at locals every couple of months? Yes. The long ass turns are why I’m not more competitive in the first place. You tried to have a gotcha moment and it failed miserably

​@@RaidZerohA lot of people do when they see their opponent playing an actual deck without opening hand traps lol

If they made a card that stopped you from surrendering those sweaty nerds would 1000000% use that every game to make you watch them bm

@@Practicalinvestments Then also play Prohibition and declare GG EZ.

Isn't surrendering illegal in the ocg?

True but tbh, in order to do that they'd need to DRAMATICALLY change the game. It's have to become an entirely different game to be truly balanced.

​​​​@@fuzzythoughts8020maybe yugioh should learn from vanguard cardfight first and second turn phase where opponent cannot use Ed and spells/traps until turn 3. But during the first and second turn both can set up monsters hand traps more etc. also no battle phase that part too

@@patricknguyen4848 but isn’t that kinda the point of what he’s trying to say? You’d have to change entire parts of the game that have been in the game for 25 years. I am not saying you are wrong but for a change in Yu Gi Oh would be an interesting change after 2 decades.

Or they could introduce negation sickness. Eg: you can only negate twice per turn

@fuzzythoughts8020 Then change the game. There's no sense leaving it a hellish mess. I don't even think the changes would even be that dramatic. Tone down flood gates but also make combo decks less generic. Decks should have general support, but it shouldn't be a race to spam the most generic boss monsters. Ban Maxx C in MD. Not even that intrusive.

Paul should have known this wasn't the smartest thing to say imo.

Yeah this guy say to not surrender but should I keep playing opponent has calamity and 6+ negate monsters. But this guy is saying we should not surrender and waste time.

@@patricknguyen4848 I play to have fun and not to see several hours of combo.....

And dont forget such long combos in literly every Single Step even, when its your turn, they do such long combos even before you draw 1. Card and even after that, they combo again, before you even play 1 card

I get his point but I'm guessing he is pretty competent at the game where as casual players are wanting to actually feel like they are playing the game.

This is the funniest thing I have read all week lol

This is the most adorable comment ever.

Best comment I’ve read today 😂

😂

You did win. That comment was the greatest filp effect I've ever read.

Also half the damn accounts is just bots running scripts

Watch the vidoe lol

AMEN (YES . *'AMEN'*)

I feel this. If my board is open and I have like 4k LP, and I see my opponent start "flexing" all the combos they wanna pull off I just scoop.. Like.. my guy, you have a combined 5k+ atk on field, just end, don't get all "fancy" with it

If you have a hand I can kinda see why people still combo. I've seen people do that when I have no hand, too, though. I think that might be reflex. Or flex. One of the 'lex' things.

@@MartinGeorgi91 Admittedly, I've done this to get the dailies done. Sometimes I only have time for the one duel.

This is the greatest comment ever!!

That's typically my response too, if I lose because I got outmaneuvered then GG take the win. But if I have no options to defend and you're still throwing combos out when you already have the win, then screw you I'm out.

I couldn’t agree more on this statement, if the meta is otk, then no, I won’t stop surrendering when they just stroke their own ego for 15 minutes by doing bullshit combos.

Facts, man. Players like that are so childish. They don't know what a gentlemen's game is🤝

Pretty much every modern yugioh deck is an FTK/OTK lol

Lmfao yeah they're toxic for that 🤣

EXACTLY

There really isn't nothing to say besides that handtraps was a terrible idea on every level

@@benoliver5593 I mean, the original Kuriboh (and I guess "Charm of Shabti) are okay I guess... 🤔?

​@@benoliver5593some of them are ok but things like maxx c were made without a single thought behind it. Unfortunately cause of the state of the game we need things like ash blossom and effect veiler to stop our opponents from comboing for 15 min

You made it twice as far as I did congrats! 💀

This is the clear reason right here.

This is the clear reason right here.

Based 👏

And how you want to beat an Board, which Stops you literly from doing anything, so if you See that opponent starts to do specific combos just surr and dont waste your time watching him do in every Single little Phase 15min+ combos

Exactly but it depends what deck your using overall.

So based 👏

Right, I play DBS masters and Digimon and neither of those really have this "stop one thing and it's over" mentality there is a lot more back and forth and the game pace is a lot better even when doing some powerful stuff

Its two factored Alot of the people who like yuigioh these days like it for the long special summoming combo's But said gameplay loop is enabled by komani though intentional card design and power creep.

At least you lead with the fact you don’t play the game, one honest commenter 😂

stop leaking my strats wtf

this one kinda has a point though

I generally don't understand why there are so many people in Master Duel who disconnect to surrender. Do they genuinely not know that it still counts as them losing, or not know where the surrender option is?

@@NovaSaber Does a DC count as a regular loss or a surrender? A regular loss lets you get stuff for dailies and such, so if it counts as a regular loss that might be why.

That's one thing I'll never understand: Winning or Losing due to "Connection Failure." 😑 Is it actually a bad connection, or did my Opponent transcend the usual Rage Quit? More importantly, is a Win a fluke under Connection Failure since I don't know what caused it? 🤨🤔

This was close to my take, from an analytical standpoint winning *only* because my opponent misplayed would be counted as a loss in my book. I won because the moon happen to be in the right position in the sky not cause any skill of my own

This, it literally only matters if you grind out DC cup like Ryan yu. But even there he probably quits early to save time

I just want people to surrender after my combo is done in MD. I'd like to collect my Dailies.

Yeah, if you're climbing you're not playing casually, so you shouldn't be conceding because conceding only ever sinks your win rate but otherwise it's very unfun to watch a ridiculous combo/BM so conceding to, so to say, skip the wait is worth it imo

​@@Petsinwinter2play numeron otk it's faster it saves both of us the time and garuntees you'll win 90% of the time the worst you can get is someone who run the clock down turn 1 and if they do that you should be reporting them for slow play so that way Konami knows thus is an issue they need to deal with

Sad thing is that if you play the casual mode, people are still playing like they do in rank.

not only, the rewards suck if you lose. There's no incentive to stick out a loss because at best you get a legacy pack which you can't even reduce into dust. konami literally useless giving pixels

Play retro ~

this is an illustration of any returning yugiboomer vs snake eyes meta decks

This example was a little too detailed sir. Do you need help

@@charxmoon9495 yes.

If you woulda fought him, he finally woulda respected you. No one's expecting you to win, they just expect you to stand up for yourself

@@blamberton7893 boomer take, you may as well say "you're going home with bruises, a broken nose, fractured ribs and a concussion but at least you have your pride!!"

I would literally step away, do dishes or make food and it was still the guys turn.

it's not the community, the game is toxic if don't let your opponent to play anything is a viable option the problem is within the game, it's normal that players choose what would increase their win-rate

Bruh even the Ai in the Yu-Gi-Oh DS video games do this. It's that bad lmao

Because everyone is anonymous I don’t know if you’re laddering and your deck has the out in your hand. I’m going to full combo to make sure that I can win.

​@@vonakakkola the game is toxic, sure. But saying that the community has no part in it is wrong, MBT is correct, yugioh players way too often surrender to completely winnable games.

Start trying to kiss him bro it works every time 💯💯💯

Same reason people demand you not skip the grind in games. They can't fathom not everyone has a lot of time to play. They usually also label their halfwit take as a psa as if it makes it more valid.

There are times where I've waited 10 plus minutes for my opponent to screw up their combo and cost them games. It is a real strate. Sometimes they're just better than you, other times they just.. click buttons or play cards just because they can.

I'm pretty sure he is saying that people shouldn't give up over minor inconveniences rather than sitting through a 0% chance of winning

He's mad he had a good handle and the player didn't stay for it 😂. Welcome to modern yugioh paul!

@@itsasecrettoeveryone7158right lmfao I was like “this guy seriously has the audacity to call this a PSA? As if he’s the yugioh president and what he says is law? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Facts, Pin this comment @Aps

Max c isn’t a problem 😂 it’s handtraps and a powerful negation

​@@bluelightning118If you think Maxx C ain't a problem then you yourself are a problem

@@bluelightning118 Maxx "C" is a handtrap ong dawg 💀💀

​@@bluelightning118you know max c is the best handtrap right lol. Banned in tcg

No it doesn’t they were playing the 12 minute combo hoping you’d surrender because they don’t actually know how to use their interactions afterward.

Sometimes I get it, you need to hit those 3 link summons and 3 synchro summons to get the 80 gems

I always feel bad going through extra steps to setup an extra negate or two, but I've been burned too many times trying to play nice and be quick only for them to have a Battle Fader or something =/

Hey, you'd be surprised how that can actually be a good thing. I remember one time where someone decided to start flexing with more summons when they could have easily ended it by just attacking. They screwed themselves, because the one card I had left was a Void Trap Hole, so when they went to summon something bigger and badder, they lost their monster to the Void Trap Hole, and I was able to recover and win the match after that.

Yes I can't stand them, just attack and win

@@Quanzethis

Yeah. There’s just NO way around it. Especially in Master Duel. By the end of turn 2, if you even get to that, you usually know who’s lost and who’s won.

How would you know if you’ve never tried?

​@prestonmccoy7097 thats wrong otherwise every player would have a 50% win rate. Top players in master duel have a 70-80% win rate and thats in a best of one

Because decks like mannadium or Infernoble are so much better

@@bl00by_ as an infernoble player, summoning Isolde when me and my opponent are equally matched feels like bringing a gun to a fist fight.

Naww paul doesnt get it..

That isn't even the issue. The thing is that most decks WILL kill you on turn 2 if you bricked, got handtraped a few times or they broke your board. So why would you sit there if you know that accesscode will kill you this turn anyway?

@@bl00by_ i dont even play enough to know accesscode exists. but sounds like some really unenjoyable gameplay to force yourself to have to sit through knowing the outcome.

Also Master Duel's "polish" is actually a point against it, especially for the type of game that Yu-Gi-Oh is. It's not something you really think about but something you absolutely feel - having the little animations add up steadily across playtime that stretch things out to an absurd degree. Not just the obviously way too long chain link animation but even small things like taking a fraction of a second to raise up and slam a card on the field or taking 1-2 seconds to show a summon animation will steadily add up. And of course there are things like excavating one at a time instead of just revealing the excavated cards all at the same time (like other simulators, including ones made by Konami, have done in the past) but just on a base level the absurdly long chain link animation ALONE should never have made it to the final product. When one of the primary complaints people have about the game is that it takes too long it really should be a priority to streamline as much as possible when making a sim.

@@bobbobbyson1 It's one of many cards in the game which allows you to kill your opponent in ine turn. I personally don't mind it, but it basically tells you that as soon as you see a line which could lead to it that the game is over, unless you have a way to stop it.

They also exhausted your hand and the one card you get at the beginning of your turn. They combo but don't hit you, instead they end turn and then combo again.

​​@@cinderefell1399 Agreed. Earlier today during the Fusion × Link event, I was running Ninja against Despia. We got to the point where I had 300LP but he had an active Chain Energy. My only card on the field was a face-up Jioh in defense. He could play 4 more cards, had Dragostapelia and The Theatre on the field. Based on this game state, I would have won via deck out in 30+ turns but he had Triphyoverutum in the GY. After he passed his first turn without reviving Triphy after Drago injected Jioh, I knew he was willing to just run that clock to the very end before reviving Triphy to win. Quit right there, nothing I drew could help except Kagero but only once my hand maxed out. I'd be a sitting duck until then.

Yeea... we don't have that time of day to give them.

Even worse is that Master Duel basically encourages this because of how dailies work. Sometimes people have clear lethal and then keep comboing because if they don't they don't get their dailies cleared and risk running into another game where they're on the receiving end.

@@Daddyfunbuns Alternatively, you also don't get any progress for the dailies if you quit as a way to discourage quitting. In fact, you get no points towards end of match rewards or XP if you quit. Granted, I also don't think the remaining rewards bar carries over between games. I will say that during the Labrynth meta, I often dueled people that even after completely nuking my field and hand on my turn would continue to wombo their combo long after they had both 8K on board and fulfilled any requirements for the dailies they had.

FACTTTTTTTTS

It’s even worse at low tiers when you can tell the opponent doesn’t know the lines and they take twice as long to link climb

Your opponent might make a mistake that you can capitalize on.

It takes them so long because of ppl like you guys surrendering not allowing them to learn and improve so it doesn’t take that long. Ppl who surrender are part of the problem!

Ppl who surrender are a big part of the problem if your opponent is taking to long trying to combo it’s likely they’re trying to learn their combos and by surrendering you basically make that cycle continue because they will never get the opportunity to efficiently learn their combo lines and will never get faster at those said combos to pass turn quicker in the future!

Exactly

Floodgate is auto-surrender if you know you don't have the outs for that problem. But I have some good anti floodgate cards in my deck, this still okay to wait. Most STUN is just set, normal, and pass. Five STUN turns is maybe still faster than a single turn of combo deck.

Remember Konami is greedy asf lol

The one thing that pisses me off the most about Master Duel is you HAVE to play ranked to get rewards.

@@Danlight1911 solo doesnt give u enough

Facts!!!

I stopped playing master duel. Gems were too pvp dependent and all the stronger archetypes are too high rarity to properly build. Besides they’re just gonna ban it to oblivion. So why bother?

The decks that pull up with 6 negates only to be silver and gold rankers is a shitty af system

Even that depends if your deck just crashed and burned from that hand trap and they have full combo then scooping is fine cause they gonna kill you anyway

If some rogue deck beats me (I play dark magicians) then I usually sit there and let them win properly, snake eyes tho? Goodbye lol

I read this as *Negative* 2 turns (-2 turns) lmao and I can’t agree more game ends at the coin flip before the first turn

@@Practicalinvestments yepper do lmao-

I still get that while playing lab lol

The time where Battle Fader and Scrap-Iron Scarecrow were guaranted to give you 2-4 turns to collect ressources and form a strategy and look at your toolbox of extra deck

@@bl00by_ This is exactly why I still play Lab

@@drigon100Me too. Stop using degenerate trap in Lab and it’s actually nice

This game is one step away from just being Solitaire.

Can confirm. I played TGs in Limit 1, but because I summoned Ash or activated the field spell, they quit.

Yup EXACTLY!

Thats one of the reasons why people who go 2nd have a stronger chance of surrendering

and let you draw a card but continue to play on your turn..........

He's the man that uses those decks

Now that everyone knows the outcome they can surrender this video and go on to the next.

yea dont play a dogshit deck, how about that? you expect to win, while actively playing a dogshit deck? wheres the logic

Legit why I stay in lower ranks on purpose, first time I got to platinum I said ‘nope this isn’t fun back to silver’ but some of these sweaty kids lower their rank ON PURPOSE just so they can get easy wins by BM’ing people, whenever I see a snake eyes player trying to purposefully lose I play the game out LONG AS HELL then still surrender last second so they gain a rank 🤣

Legit that’s why Paul made this video XD he’s pissed off no one wants to watch his gay combo loo

Tell me about it. I hate the coin toss decider because for the last 3 seasons and current, I have been losing the coin toss more than winning the coin toss and always have been going second, and it's irksome especially if I don't have any hand traps not even maxx C. That I would end up with a hand going first, but I am going second instead. To me, I feel as though the coin toss is rigged.

Got to agree. Casual Yugioh has the advantage of making the lowest effort play and having ressources and strategy play out to get the highest gain and fun in a duel. Like an agreed upon set of rules of power ceiling and having decks where the combination of the plays in both MP1 and BP are decisive. Did a sealed format duel with a friend with the 25th anniversery box of LOB - Dark Crisis the back and forth games were a lot of fun and usually those games the LP slowly and evenly went down and comebacks were possible. Turn 1 6 negates 3 destruction effects and "oh you normal summoned its my turn again" are just very stupid interactions that take away from the experience. I just have to compare my casual Blue-Eyes deck to my @Ignister deck which has 1 card combos to get into Link 6 turn 1 I like both but the game fun is determined in the matchup and balance.

imagine watching the anime again after years of being gone from the game, buying a blue eyes deck, wanting to re-live anime duels, and the first duel you go up against with your blue eyes structure deck is a snake eyes meta deck.

@@bobbobbyson1 this will be the reality later this year and I absolutely can't wait for the discourse on it

​@@bobbobbyson1I just finished 5Ds. I am playing TGs in Limit 1. Fun stuff, but I am well aware this isn't the deck to take into ranked.

@@spicymemes7458 tbh when they first came to MD, a decent amount of people were playing it on ranked so don’t count yourself out yet

They'll still get gems from completing the daily challenges if you let them combo off.

Funfact: If you wait until your opponent beat you and the game end properly. You still don't get any gems from this. So, both Surrender and losing properly are the same, but surrender is faster.

Or if they made one mistake when they don't know what I'm even playing yet. How do you know that I won't mess up either?

Precisely, I think it's fine to also concede to skip the wait on the opponent's very long combo or BM, but if their combo is not that long (and they're not BMing) then it shouldn't take too much time for them to play it out or for you to pass on a starter lacking hand/negate board/after getting plays negated if you care about wasting time

THIS

"Ok, I'll imperm your wind witch, oh and nibiru you're half board" "Normal summon aluber add branded fusion. Activate branded fusion, chain ash? Alright bet, Chain crossout, On resolution activate talent rip 1 from hand." "Effect of albion, response?" - the guy you should 'stick around' for💀

​@@handlebar4520that's not half bad it be way worse scenarios. Esp with baronne still around on master duel and max c

Oh you mean the ones that consist of playing yugioh with yourself for 15 minutes, nah thanks

@@xdantex9724 could be worse

And if you get maxc'd you should 100% surrender.