Alternatively it could be like WOW. Where you buy the game and then have to pay a monthly fee to actually play it. Then there are items on top of that which you can buy. I really hope that's not the way it's going

Might as well bring over the Sims 3 Store

It be like sims 'freeplay' *shudder*

i bet they will make it a subscription based too

As if they’re not doing that already with their billions of completely shallow DLC. So so greedy.

The 8-48 hour range has me cackling (and is 10000% true)

Could be cool to go in an Animal Crossing direction where you decide if and when people come to visit and they have to be your friends, not just some random person.

@@tarynhulse854 like they attempted with the sims 3! But actually go through with it this time instead of your sims becoming an NPC when they leave for your friend’s town

The EA execs don't know and don't care to know the Sims audience. That's why they keep forcing the multi-player issue even after it failed spectacularly. It's just so self sabotaging to me.

The legitness of this! You could create college courses on researching!

All the cats!!!!

I would like if it was like animal crossing and I could go visit my friend our send them an email/postcard but that's it. There's a mod that makes sims 4 multiplayer and it seems fun but it's an add-on not the main thing

Absolutely agree and also your sims goals are my irl goals (crochet not knitting and currently no cats bc brother is allergic)

@@dia.96 They kinda did that in the Sims 3, you could send gifts to friends with an account on the community website or something. No one used the feature that I know of.

@@Noblewynter I remember that and did actually send gifts. But I only got 1 back xD You could also host a friend as an entertainer or something. But it never really worked in my game.

And it's fucking expensive as well.

@@D0MiN0ChAn Me before playing games:" Why would anyone pay money for digital images you can't touch?" Me after The Sims 4: "Why the hell did I spend over $1000?"

@@itscyberqueen13 honestly, CC makers are out here doing the most. Add-on packs, that don't require the pack are so amazing, its like finding a diamond in a bag of gravel.

@@D0MiN0ChAn THIS! Sims 4 is literally reusing all the content from previous games, yet EA (I guess) invented new labels and have it at higher prices. It's so ridiculous to have a gamepack cost the same as previous expansion packs, and current sims 4 expansions being this high price for no reason. I also have no idea who comes up with how they end up diving the content, e.x. Seasons should have been a game pack - with the amount of content their adding to the gameplay, but not as much to build-and-buy, compared to Parenthood for example. Also, the fact it took them so long to add Seasons and how badly community was asking for that, they literally just banked off of us. I think even back in 2016 people were saying it's better to wait for sales before you buy anything for Sims 4. Now, it's a must to either wait for sale or go for the bundle with 3 things in it. And even with that game play is just boring

I think it’s more of giving the sims team a pass for doing what they can not giving EA a pass.

Maybe that's why ts5 is so long coming maybe it will be complete a game at launch. (when i say complete i mean playable and enjoyable as a base game. )

You're right. It's a good game to play now with several packs but the TS3 base game is packed full of so much more. It's sad looking back on how much we lost especially with all this in mind.

@@Jess-nc4oy The Sims team put out a complete game I won't hold my breath 7 years later Sims 4 is missing basics

@@lance9249 I'm being hopeful lol

@@Jess-nc4oy I think the reason ts5 is taking so long is because it is expensive to make a whole new game, and some execs have realized 'why make a new game when people are still buying the dlc for ts4?' I think thats why kit's happened as well. They are trying to milk the game dry before they even think of releasing another one.

All it would take to make teens different is just a slight change in height at the very least

@@elliotgibsonroberts6672 or proportions!? Teens can have pretty different proportions compared to adults. Multiple different proportions might be too much to ask, but at least a slight height and proportions difference would be in order. They have proven that they know how to do it with toddlers and kids.

It makes sense that elders are just adult sims because well they're just older. But WHY teens have the same proportions and height as adults just doesn't make sense to me. Even acne was only available with one of the expansion packs.

@@elliotgibsonroberts6672 and young adults lol

@@jgr_lilli_ they just make them skinnier when you switch them between adult and teen, it’s lazy

The sims 4 wouldn't run at all on my old laptop when I first got it, ended up buying a new laptop because of it but somehow the sims 3 ran perfectly fine on my old laptop including 2 dlc

Fair, but it's definitely less demanding than previous instalments, though! Still not perfect, but there is an improvement in performance.

Honestly. Plus beginner gaming PCs are becoming way more affordable as the years go on, many people buy PCs solely to play the sims. EA is just looking for a cop out. But for those who can’t afford to, they’re stuck with only a couple of expansions and a crap ton of simulation lag.

I have a pretty good pc that's about a year old and have major troubles with Sims 4. I have all the Sims 4 packs to Snowy Escape (except Batuu and RoM), very few mods (Better Build/Buy, UI cheats, More Cas Columns) and the game consistently crashes my whole pc if I have anything else (Chrome, Spotify) open at the same time. I don't even play in live mode, just building. Sims 3 runs way better for me even with all the packs, a lot of store content, and mods and cc. Last year I was able to open both Sims games with Chrome at the same time, with more mods in Sims 4 than I have currently, and could barely rotate the camera in Sims 4 because of how much it struggled, while Sims 3 was super smooth (this was even before the smooth patch!).

I can only play Sims 4 base game on my laptop if I turn ALL graphics settings to minimum AND have a fan under my laptop. It is so not a light game lol

Yeah I mean at the very least she’s definitely using skills like research, analysis, and presentation of findings which I’m sure where definitely developed during a History degree. I did Art so it’s honestly a guess but I definitely think she uses her degree 🙌🏻

100%

Agree 100%

If you like this kind of content, PleasantSims does really indepth videos a bit like this. Different vibes but would recommend!

^ pleasantsims AND the sims lord - she does world/sim history of’s

And stop lying!! Lmao I knew the “Lower-End Systems” rhetoric was complete bull when they announced that they were stopping supporting 32-bit machines and releasing the TS4 Legacy Edition. Lmao And dont even get me started on Batuu and Lindsay (whose been working on the Sims since TS2) saying it was her idea :/ Poor developers man… having to take the brunt of criticism because theyre basically FORCED to lie perhaps due to contractual obligations…. Pfft

i think if it was done right, and optional, it actually could work. online is different now, people might like it more. the thing is do we trust ea to do it right?

@@micahcook2408 Erm, hold on a sec here. 32-bit systems don't have a lot to do with low-end systems. There were some seriously beefed up 32-bit systems back in the day. And a 64-bit system means nothing with a shitty CPU and GPU. Dropping support for 32-bit was a necessary decision, as the bloody thing was already outdated in the year 2000 and only the cheapest PCs still included 32-bit processors by 2014. Back in the day, after the system requirements for Sims 4 were announced, I did some support on a forum, trying to help people judge whether or not their PCs could handle the game and trust me when I say that, yes, the vast majority of the Sims playerbase is running this game on literal bricks and they absolutely had to cater to them and downgrade the game's demands if they didn't want to alienate about 70% of their playerbase. I am talking GPUs and CPUs from the early naughties here. Those weren't lies but the bitter truth. The Sims has always and will always be a game that is mostly played by non-tech-savvy casual players.

@@DerLetzteMonarch of course, you’re correct but im specifically talking about the team saying why the reason TS4 was released the way it was, with as little content as possible (no pools, no cars, the neighborhood loading screens, no toddlers, etc.), was because of lower end systems. When in all actuality Sims 2 and 3 (which 3 had the issue of the game being unoptimized - people still run into issues of crashing, not loading, lag, even on higher end systems, to this day if they do nothing to combat it) had more things in the game on release with worse technology than 4 at the time.

EA might actually go under pretty soon bc if the sims 5 is a flop, on top of their other failing franchises like Madden, I don’t see how they’d survive.

I really miss the dark tone of the earlier sims games, and the more adult themes. I don't want to see the franchise dumbed down and disneyfied even more for a younger audience.

@@Hungarycloud Ikr the thought alone makes me puke. They need to be demolished if they do this, we all miss the more dark and adult sims games.

@@Ice.muffin i'm actually all about happy-go-lucky, it's simple, it's relaxing, it's lovely. Seeing my sims 4 family having a good time makes my day Idk why i commented this i just wanted to say it ig

@@Qwerty-wk3jy There's all kinds of people out there, can never make everyone happy with one decision, that's a given fact unfortunately ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@Qwerty-wk3jy I think they should have the options available to play both happy-go-lucky style and more adult/dark style. More choices in terms of playstyle are always good bc every player is different and may prefer to play in different ways.

tell her i love her game :)

Cities Skylines was of course published by Paradox, and in 2019 Paradox opened a new Studio headed up by Rob Humble, who made Second Life, Sims 2, and Sims 3. My hope is that they pull another Cities Skylines and show EA how the life-sim genre is done.

I LOVED Skylines when it released but I can't go back to it now because there's a Sims level of DLC :( fantastic achievement though, so so much better than Simcity reboot

@@The8bitbeard the game is too good to need a sequel honestly. What could they add that the mods can't?

@@w花b By "pull another Cities Skylines", I meant make a competitor to the Sims that absolutely embarrasses EA with how good it is.

Ooh I'm interested in those wild storylines👀.

Yeah I want control over the story when I play the sims. I don’t wanna deal with real people.

fr, sims 4 is a game for the weird introverted quiet kids in the corner of the classroom. We need our escapism where we just do whatever we want in our own little virtual world.

As a communication designer this is giving me nightmares. Oof.

@@jgr_lilli_ having people not knowing a single thing about your job and telling you what to do is the most frustrating thing ever.

Truly sage advice lol

@@woodpigeon7776 thank you 😂

Which Sims team? Sims 1, 2, 3, 4? Or do you mean the Sim City teams? Every game has a different team. It's not the same exact people working on every game. They also don't make a lot of the bigger decisions that impact the actual games after release, those kinds of decisions come from the bosses that don't actually make the game itself. Publishers and investors often have more of a say than the team that actually works on the game. Not giving individual credit is how corporations get customers to blame developers for things beyond their control. The hundreds to thousands of people that work hard to make the various sims games playable didn't "forget their own history" because they're not all the same people. SimCity released in 1989, The Sims released in 2000...yes, things will change over the course of 30 years. It's not the fault of the teams themselves. Don't blame the sims teams for decisions beyond their control.

@@shannon9009 I'm not naive, I know the people who spend hours everyday making the game care about the game. And I know all the shortcomings and disappointment of the Sims 4 comes from the greedy corporation that is EA, not the developers. Still there's corporate EA people who oversee the Sims 4 who probably don't care about it and I think they could use a couple lessons

@@shannon9009 Remember how simgurugrant flat out lied and denied that Sims 2 or 3 ever had 3 EPs released in the same year, for some odd reason. Having said that, making the simgurus create social media accounts and interact directly with the public was a move of evil genius by EA PR. They end up taking flack for decisions made by anonymous C Suiters

Sims 2 is technically abandonware, try oldgamesdownload .com if you want it.

I got mine from eBay. I think you can still message the people for a free version of the Ultimate Edition if you show proof that you own a copy.

There's plenty of ways to play sims 2 again lol. I have all my discs left but they don't work on windows 10 so I went with the piracy approach

The Sims 2 Reddit has multiple ways to get it and run it on Windows 10 🥰

Omg yes if the game's online, what would happen if one person has a pack and the other doesn't

@dhalc Only time can tell :c

EA execs dont understand the playerbase, so they will make the same mistake again i suppose

I don't have such a refined eye for details, do you have a few examples pls?? I'm really curious now.

I'm curious too! :o

@@Ice.muffin if you place some of the items that were in the pictures featured in the video, and place it beside items features in packs you’ll really see the difference

Are we surprised 🤣 half the packs are recycled in my opinions and they still charge for them . I feel like they keep updating the base game because they’re noticing what other developers are doing and don’t want to lose their audience.

People are still shelling out money for crumbs like kits, so they'll keep milking us because it's easy cash.

@@RionAgrias and that’s factual 👌they should focus on making the sims 5 with everything right (not perfect) from the start and stop charging with every single little things that the modders have already been providing us and some 🤷‍♀️

Yea recycled and such tiny amounts of items per for an insane price and the people willing to shill out the 1000 dollars for trash SIms 4 packs basically means an end to any decent Sims games.@@nafola7617

ooooooo what game are you a dev of?

Yeah, I agree, there was barely any stuff packs or expansion packs compared to previous years. I wonder if they'll release sims 5 after paralives or before.

We have known this for a very long time.

@@Indian_gae_boii I'm at IO Interactive working on our recently-ish announced James Bond game that's still very much in-progress :-)

@@iammyself7885 oo good luck and stay healthy!

Rotating it so so gently just waiting for the square to turn green and SLAMMING the click button before it turns red and you can't set down the lot again

Yes, please leave us alone! Part of my reason for getting into Sims in the first place was that it didn't require a bunch of friends, like so many others.

True, makes me wonder if EA has any idea who Sims players are. The people they're trying to target now are not interested in Sims games but are the ones who spend tons on microtransactions... Greed has already killed SimCity, tf are they trying to do now?

Also, I enjoy NOT needing to be on wifi all the time to play. As someone who works in an environmental field I am often places where I don't always have internet access

It needs to be optional. I’m introverted but I would love the option to play with friends sometimes, it will bring something new for the sims.

Please just focus on making a good open world with REAL STORY PROGRESSION like the sims 3 and little details like the sims 2

Not that TS4 was any better received as a result. I remember watching some OG Sims let's players struggle to make any long form content because the base game was feckin' empty and they basically had nothing to do with their sims. Add to that the non-existence of toddlers and any legacy-style series was basically doomed from the get-go. I still feel like Sims 4 LPs don't hold up as well as compared to TS2 or TS3, just because there's way less meaningful family gameplay. An absolute mess.

@@D0MiN0ChAn litellary, there are barely any long running series in Sims 4 and most content around this game is either a simple challange, a mod review, or building.

@@D0MiN0ChAn I remember I used to love bingeing those long TS3 let plays with like 40 videos in a playlist. When TS4 came out it felt like those types of videos had disappeared. It's a shame really. I remember watching World Adventures LPs and being amazed by the sheer amount of content they put into a single expansion pack. I still play the sims 3 and have fun doing so, plus it's way cheaper than TS4 😅

It is unfortunate for fans of the sims that so many people were willing to pay for all these trash packs for Sims 4...Cause that just shows they can charge absurd amounts for barely anything.

That makes a lot of sense, and I bet Covid doesn’t make it any better.

yea a big chunk of the team are working on software for 'upcoming' sims games.

@@buzzii Probably working on the millions of microtransactions coming for TS5

Wow, this reminds me of the development disaster that plagued Sonic 06 back then, one half of Sonic Team devs working on Sonic 06 and the other half working on Secret Rings, resulting in lack of manpower to make either game with 06 being the primary victim of that practice

I would also hope that they wouldn’t make sims 5 fully online but EA likes to screw companies over. They did that with BioWare by having a mmo gaming fully knowing that the fan base was into their solo RPGs and when Andromeda tanked and Mass Effect update did extremely well, only then did they learn to respect their audience. So I guess we’ll only know with time.

@@8ri1 I just feel like they already learned from simcity, so it would just be silly for them to try again without making massive adjustments to the plan (like doing an animal crossing style multiplayer instead of fully online)

My issue to is legal business jargon… I wish developers could speak honestly about the project sometimes because it creates a heap of drama in their communities when so much of the setbacks/issues are thrown onto the developers. Like for two examples, 1) the EA and Disney partnership they’ve had since 2013 (hence why there has been Star Wars content in the game since its initial release) and how Lindsay (Head Developer) said it was her idea but imo, personally, I just feel like she wouldn’t be completely on board with making a game that is just an online advertisement for the Disney Attraction and have no Sims-World integration (aliens are costumes, Kylo Ren and Rey are not marriable/woohoo-able/etc., Batuu isnt inhabitable without cheats, etc.), and 2) The “Low System Requirement” lie imo because EA stopped supporting 32-bit computers and released TS4 Legacy edition for lower end computers, not to mention, how people with even higher end systems complain about Simulation Lag, Bugs, etc. It may never happen, but I just need these industries and companies to have more transparency in the World. Would save a lot of headache and people blaming the frontmen when there are people behind the scenes in control of mostly everything lmao

Because the executives are idiots, simple as that

It's money, always. Multiplayer games are perfect for microtransactions :D

yea multiplayer games make a lot of money for them. and sims fans are largely not interested in multiplayer games. hence why they are failing. but I'd love it if they sold sims and other Maxis properties.

@@nininini035 yes that makes sense, however they have managed to split up content to much with the Sims 4 to make plenty of money, why not keep doing something that is working (I know it’s not ideal for customers but they don’t care). They also aren’t going to make a lot of money with a multiplayer if most players hate it and don’t use it.

Long term wise, multi-player games mean way more profit than solo game (greatest examples would be gta 5 and fortnite). The game can keep running for ages, with updates here and there, endless choice for microtransactions, and since the charm is in connecting with other players, there would be no need to really invest in immense amount of features to keep players entertained. But of course there's a very low chance for it to ever work with the sims, unless it's added as an option (like how tons of games give their solo titles from very loved franchises an online game they can jump in after completing the main story). However sadly the higher-ups who make these decisions do not play games. They're businessmen who observe trends, what has been generating the most profit/has the potential of doing so. So with multiplayer being even more prevalent now than it was nearly a decade ago, they're never gonna give the idea up...

I remember trying it out on a friend's PC back in 2014/15 and I literally haven't touched this game until it was on sale just recently for like $5 it was a complete tragedy. It was so bleak, the portraits of the sims were just basically T posing and the world map was just some black and white bullshit 🤢🤢🤢 it genuinely felt like they just released some demo beta version of a game. I must admit thought that right now it really feels like a finished game. If it released like this it probably could have avoided the horrible reputation it has now, although this is still honestly just a dead uninspired husk of a game. I use it only to make sims, I hope this franchise dies at this point... sims 4 hit me way too deep, I hope Paralifes or whatever else takes over.

i made the dumb decision of spending $80 on the premium edition when it came out cus i was 11.. but even at that age i was severely disappointed. i remember i would quit the game after 30 minutes of gameplay because it was so boring, and that still holds true today.

Am I the only one who has always loved the cartoony look? 😳

@@Minniemooz I mean, I've gotten used to it over the years, but back then after its first reveal I felt like I was in the twilight zone. It was such an abrupt change of style to what we were used before; paired with the lack of basically everything else, it was completely incomprehensible to me 😅

My dad got me the deluxe version bc he didn't know how bare it would be. The only 'deluxe' thing was a few hats.

While it's true that this is likely the reason why Olympus didn't have a colour wheel to begin with, working with textures in that way is still a major struggle for computers to this day. A game currently being created could probably pull it off without the major hitches we know from Sims 3's CASt. But back pre-2014, I think Sims 4 would have struggled with those same exact issues, even if they had taken the time to rework the game to feature a colour wheel. So ultimately, even trying would have been a major waste of time and resources, I think. Especially considering how there were many other, much more essential features, they needed to integrate as Olympus became Sims 4.

I dont think thats an unpopular opinion. Like I enjoy the idea of the multiplayer mod as much as the next person, but its a closed multiplayer. And not constant

I don’t want open world neither. Open neighborhood sounds so much better to me. I haven’t played sims 3 but, someone said that once your sims moved they forget about the friends they made. And that’s not realistic. I think online sims should be an option. Like you can play it offline but, if you want to play online with a friend you can do it too. Having different options for different playing styles sounds good to me.

@@moondivine2288 the thing about the sims 3 is, the neighborhoods are so big that you can't visit other ones. You can move out but there is no visiting, so even if your sim remembered their friends, they have no way of talking to them. It does such, but I get why they did it because ts3 was already slow from the start so I couldn't imagine it with multiple large neighborhoods running in the background.

open neighborhoods seems like it Would Work with sims 4 as well considering a) the worlds are separated into neighborhoods anyway and b) you could easily go from the library to the gym or whatever you want to do since those, in base game at least (idk abt other worlds), are all in the same neighborhood

@@moondivine2288 I agree about Open Neighborhood versus Open World but I feel the need to explain how Sims 3 worked. If your family moved lots within their original world then it was fine, they would remember everyone they knew, but moving between worlds in Sims 3 was like switching planets. It's not the same as moving between towns in Sims 4, which is like taking an airplane instead of a one-way spaceship. Sims 3 had other countries; France, Egypt, and China, so your Sims could have long distance relationships and travel without inherently forgetting everyone, but those countries were like the towns in Sims 4 (except massive and you had to pay to travel there; the most similar example would be Selvadorada from Jungle Adventure; the spiritual descendant of World Adventures.) What player was doing when they moved the family across worlds was making a copy of the family and placing them into the Library/Gallery of Sims 4 so you could immediately put them into a New Save File. They weren't the exact same people and those townies might not exist in that new world, so it deleted every relationship outside of the family relationships. It was a Save transplant, so while it might not be realistic, it only happened in that scenario.

Honestly, I don't blame them for wanting to make it run well for everyone but it'd be amazing if they made a Sims game that was like Skyrim or Fallout, in that, it fully leans into open world, graphics, and features, it'd only run on a gaming computer probably but it'd have everything right off the bat. Unrealistic, I know, but it's nice to imagine.

@@melodye14 a sims 4 medieval game....maybe...

Well FO76 isnt that bad, but its a buggy mess. Even know there is this level of jank that makes just *Moving* a pain

Pantheon competing to make everyone's life miserable. There you are directing a Sim to be heroically athletic and someone else directs them to cook Poptarts until they burn to death.

Split-screen multiplayer on console (for at least one of the games pre-Sims-4, I can't remember what I played in multiplayer mode with my kid sis eons ago) was all right, though if one person paused the game, the other person had to sit and wait. I'm going to guess multiplayer doesn't let you pause, or if one person is set as the owner of the house, they have control of stuff like that. I don't remember if both of us could edit the house either.

@@tirsden it really just doesnt owrk. the only MP that could work is perhaps Animal Crossing style. But having many people exist in the same space in a Simulation like the Sims doesnt work at all.

Yup. I'm ready to even wait another 10 years before the next Sims comes out. EA has gotten enough of my money at this point and they've proven that they simply can't be trusted. The good ol' times of triple A gaming are definitely over. Indie games is where it's at.

You'd think after this many years we could admit it's UNFIXABLE

@@D0MiN0ChAn And it's all the result of infinite greed. If human nature isn't the pinnacle of disgusting, I don't know what is.

Exactly, every expansion pack will have the same empty set-dressed worlds (no matter how pretty) and the overall mechanics of the game are just boring, whenever they tried to add more depth the engine seems to be unable to handle it resulting in broken features and glitches. Don’t get me wrong, I love building and CAS in the Sims 4 and I do play in live mode time and time again, but the latter always disappoints

Yea I don't understand if anyone is still hopeful for the Sims series...As them being able to make good money off of little work means they will do it repeatedly.

I never played the sims 3. But the sims 2 was far superior in terms of animation and logic. It was harder and there were consequences to failing that you bad to fight to bring yourself back from. From what ive seen of the sims 3, it built on that with animation and logic. The sims 4 should have built on the sims 3 maybe not the super open world, it did cause alot of problems which is why i didnt play it i only had a laptop, but i liked the story progression of the people around the sim. Sims 4 should have launched with (among the obvious) seasons, cars, story progression, more worlds, and larger maps where you can place your own lots, cars, seasons, Get to work, dine out, get together, pets, laundry day stuff, the vacuums, apartments, university, island living, parenthood, bowling night stuff, aliens, vampires, werewolves, and witches from day one. That should have been the foundation. And then they should built everything else in top of that. The sims 4 base game could have been a masterpiece. Tiny living and eco lifestyle should have been one pack. Knitting and cottage living should have been a single pack, kids stuff and toddler stuff should have been one pack. Memories on top of the traits and the sims 2's "horrorscope personalities would have been PERFECT with the mood system. No more "reminiscing about things that never happened. It would say what they were remembering and why that thing has an affect on their mood. Sentiments added to that would have improved it. The different grave stones for those who died getting everything in their aspiration. Having LIFE TIME aspirations, with the ones we have in game as MILE STONES to be completed in their aspiration that can be achieved... Yes it would have been a monster of a game base game, but what away to start and its not like they dont have the technology. Then bringing in other elements like jungle adventure, paranormal stuff, out door retreat and journey to batuu all could have been bigger and badder expansions with more to do and offer. Journey to batuu could have been a great addition with going to other planets. We can already go to sixam, being able to go to other places in the star wars universe as apart of regular sims continuity could have been perfect. Expanding on what was already there with aliens instead of making it into a theme park that you'd only go to once if at all. There were many choices made a lot of them seemed rushed to me. Lets hope sims 5 at least has alot more than the first THREE expansion, game, and stuff packs of 4.

I'm not. I started playing when it was just the Sims before Livin' Large was even released. I LOVE the Sims 4. It's everything I wanted the game to be originally, sans multiplayer, but that's neither here nor there. The Sims 3 to me was trash and a fucking mess. I'm glad they ended up reworking an "online" version of the game into the Sims 4 we know today, because it's absolutely wonderful.

@@hakudoushinumbernine Do you know how many _years_ and how expensive the game would be if it had launched with all that stuff included right off the bat? Do you even understand how game development works? That would simply not be feasible even with the Sims 5.

@@godzandheros true, but, they could have reworked old code. And also, they dont have to do it as soon as possible. They can wait another six years for them to make that game. You have a game that big and expanded at launch and you dont have to come out with an expansion, stuff, or game pack for... years.

@@hakudoushinumbernine But you're forgetting about cost. It's going to be close to a $500 base game if you factor in all the things you listed they're going to have to develop to give you at launch. That's not a good business model at all.

I mean if the game is so bad on release that our desires are to have the basics, toddlers and pools for example, they’ve made it easy for themselves to fulfil our desires 😂

I agree with the first paragraph. Us Sims fans will have an absolutely great game to stay with (Sims 3) while waiting for Sims 4 without a complaint. But now, with the amount of people not having it with what Sims 4 turned out to be, the community will probably be more impatient for Sims 5 causing the game to be rushed and, again, incomplete, causing the cycle to restart. I feel like there are more people hyped and waiting for Paralives to come out than Sims 5. Also, looking at comments under Paralives videos, you can really see how much EA dissapointed us lowered our expectations to the point that we get excited about things like height, taking shoes off when going indoors, sitting on counters and drawers, etc. It's kinda sad to see.

Hello Paralives

Yeah, I don't get why they are so dead set on having more reasons to not program personality and gameplay depth. Of course online mannequins helps with that. 🤢 But how about some real innovation, like procedural animations, so that we can get different heights and more varied animations? Or an improvement on the wants and fears system? Or an improved flexible open world?

I would be so upset- the Sims is an ESCAPE from the real world, why would you want to integrate it?

i was like 13 when ts4 launched on christmas and it ruined my entire fucking holidays

Yeah one question I had by the end of this video is "will aging be off or what?" Unless I'm playing a challenge game, I always have aging off for played households in Sims 4.

I’m also wondering what would happen with the game speeds. Being able to go at faster speeds have always been a fundamental part of the game, but how are you going to do that in multiplayer?

@@choddle8427 I can't imagine not being able to 3x speed while my sims are sleeping.

Correct but this is soo overused

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Yeah, I didn't realize how bad the builds can be until I started watching lilsimsie. One of the houses in Realm of Magic has stairs in the back but no backdoor so the stairs lead just to a wall. Some of the roof colors don't match too and some lots (across packs) have no toilets included. A lot of playtesting clearly didn't happen.

A scone and breakfast sandwich :)

Grilled ham and cheese sandwich

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I just made pierogies!! Enjoy your meal :)

i just cooked a full english after uploading this x

That's a lovely delusion! I think I'll adopt it too, lol

I was thinking really the same, hopefully there's truth in this theory cuz then we have at least a small chance for a decent sims 5.

Delusional take,it is EA and they were able to take a ton of money from people....Up to 1,000 per.... They won't be doing something like that if they can.,.Even if the devs themselves wanted to put love and care in the game...They still work under someone and that with the landscape of current gaming showcases that EA will try and do the same with any newer rendition.

Exactly this, I have heard horror stories online from former EA employees, the current ones definitely can't say anything but at least we got to know how it's really like behind the scenes (even the former ones probably weren't supposed to reveal the working conditions). I hope the sims team and others EA devs are treated better now, and that EA holds back from interfering with the direction of the game after the entire simcity debacle. If they don't care about making a good game or their employees' creative needs, they should at least care about the franchise being successful/being a cash cow and in order for them to do that they need the consumers to actually like their product

Exactly, the game is the way it is because of EA. And it's not in their best interest to give customers a complete game, beacuse DLC is extremely profitable and much cheaper to make (especially kits, but really all packs at this point an indie developer could pull off). Having an old game go on forever while adding many tiny but overpriced pieces of content is all about money. It's perfect for them if we like a game enough to wish for a complete version, but never feel satisfied. Have players hope they will finally stop getting bored if only they buy this one more pack and so on, pretty much. Jobs at EA are very popular, those chosen few to be hired are good at their job. But what can they (the vast majority) do about the direction, time and budget given..? EA will want to impress and keep investors, which means higher and higher profit. Therefore I think it's highly unlikely they would ever give a sims game the resources required to make it a great game at launch or maybe ever. It will likely get worse, not better. The day a sims game would demand more resources instead of less, is the day they kill off the franchise and find other more profitable projects (wish I was wrong, though). However right now, TS4 is a total gold mine for them. (Sorry for poor english, not native language.)

or the latter furniture and clothers/hairs :/ sims 4 really is just olympus scraps wow :0 /pos

That blew my mind, so many base game items are the same, just cleaned up a bit

my two special interests in ONE it's perfect

Yep, Olympus was just the code name for Sims 4. It had always been the same game from the first leak up until the final release. They just scrapped the multiplayer aspect in 2013 and rushed to make the game as solid of a singleplayer experience as possible, not that the original main feature was gone. And it's absolutely true about the game's performance. People tend to seriously underestimate what massive performance hogs simulation games are.

Yeah, I don't even try to play TS4 on my laptop anymore because it's so slow especially in CAS. Ironically, my Sims 3 can take forever to open but once things get started, it runs better than my TS4. I play TS4 mainly on console with XBOX one. It gets slow after playing for several hours, but other than that, no major issues.

It definitely makes you appreciate the developers and artists more considering they had to redo the whole thing in just over a year after the SimCity fiasco.

OMG YESSS!!

Oh it does. I recommend looking into Paralives for that one.

Let’s see when Paralives get released :) I cannot wait !

It will have one soon, Paralives! I'm excited for Paralives to finally crush EA's monopoly and put them into a panic. The day it happens, EA might actually start putting more effort into the Sims not to lose the fandom to another game (though I believe Sims 2 and 3 fans will forever remain cause those games are definitely ones impossible to let go of).

Let's just hope it happens fast. I can't wait for some meaningful gameplay for a change. Instead of what EA considers meaningful gameplay, like my own sim telling me he found a ring and asking his own fiance through an annoying pop up, if he should propose to her and them getting instantly engaged, without any animation or logic to the whole thing. If this is what EA considers ground breaking features I don't know what is keeping this franchise alive 🤦.

Rod Humble is making his own Life Simulation too! That should be interesting for sure.

Watch job should I give Nicklos Kay from house of ashes in sims 4? Vote on with replies and likes from: Actor, Athlete, Military or Politician.

@@matthewboyajian9593 Never seen House of Ashes but I assume Military from what I googled.

@@Kaywireee House of ashes is part of the dark pictures anthology series, they are horror games where your characters stay dead.

Not suspicion, knowledge.

What kind of veggies?

@@hope-cat4894 Peppers, tomatoes, onions and avocado for a burrito bowl :)

@@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459 Ooo, yum! 😋

@@hope-cat4894 It turned out really nice :) Hope you're having a great day!

@@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459 Same to you. :3

The webkinz model! I agree! In webkinz you had your own house and you could meet up with friends but you absolutely didn’t have to!

@@ReagannJ exactly!! And even if you decided to visit them, it didn't influence /their gameplay at all, your sim wouldn't even show up in their house and it was fun

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Firstly, it's Fortnite (battle royal game) and EA already have it's own battle royal game, Apex Legends. I think they want to make The Sims 5 more liie Animal Crossing type of game.

Just seeing the images she shared from OG Sims 4 with the completely gray featureless map is so sad. Like, why did they release it looking like a demo?

I mean I couldn't even play the game bc it got stuck in an endless cycle of updating so maybe that's why ppl don't focus on the gameplay???

@@noot-noot-pingu-noot-noot ya that happened to me plenty of times as well, had gotten real tired of uninstalling and reinstalling that shit over and over just for my cities to collapse no matter what I did.

Stardew is great for what it is, but a Sims game in that vein wouldn't have any kind of family gameplay. It was the worst part of Sims Medieval.

@@BonaparteBardithion Yeah but I'm talking more about the fact that it's optional, the main game is still playable offline. But you're totally right, Sims and multiplayer are not really compatible

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