You are right. Except a lot of customers dont want to spend the extra money to dig up the lawn or even pass a camera to begin with. So often thats what they get. A drain that blocks regularly and need to be fished at least 1x per year. Ive had clients prefer to pay once a year than truly fix the problem. But yes there are a lot of crooks out there . Including the ones that tell you that you absolutely need to replace the whole line even if there is only a small amount of roots , just because they contract the job to a friend and get a 20 percent cut on it. If it isnt a major problem like this one, a screw up from an amateur, then i always advise them that if they dont have rhe money to dig up the lawn and replace the line then theyre better off to have it cleaned every year or so. Where i live here in montreal, canada, some places can run up to 10,000 $ to replace the drain believe it or not

@@garydohe some people are on fixed incomes. Many are older. They only get a out 1300 a month retirement. ... they have no mortgage anymore and cant afford to fix the pipes ... so spending 100 a year to clean the pipes would better then 10grand ....

@@garydohe 10,000 thats crazy but most people dont have the confidence to do it themselves. its not hard. But its messy . Im here because im trying to figure whats clogging the plumbing. Now from this video i got the idea to buy the camera and see for myself because it may be something simple like a paper clogg or the pipes could be completely ruined So before i break the floor i want to check it out with the camera. with be a simple problem

I’m with you. I do service work, video inspection, pipe tracing and jetting. I’ll tell them the truth and give them options. I work with a couple of other companies that I feel comfortable with and let them dig up the ground or slabs. I do stop by if time allows to reassure the home owners that the work will be good

How about lining the pipes with epoxy impregnated felt? That seems the way to go in many cases, but it might not fix the problems shown in this case.

MJCPeters Looked like a root saw, probably Ridgid.

+MJCPeters If hes coming out there to snake the main line every six months it seems like a solution to me. Snaking a isn't good for your pipe to begin with especially that frequent. This home owner now has a liner in there that bares a lifetime guarantee and that's a good insight for him when it comes time to sell that house. I recommend any home owner to stop wasting 4-5 hundred dollars for snaking a line and all other treatments and maintenance when they can make an investment and never have to worry about plumbing again.

How is Polly pipe for sewer lines?

Actually if you watched where He cut that blockage out you could see that the pipe was separating. Brian knows exactly what he is talking about on this. I’m a plumber up in British Columbia that has 27 years of experience in plumbing and Drain Cleaning. He was right to suggest replacing that sewer.

@@twincitydrain8041 it's a retrieval head that was sarpend to cut roots that a general drain cleaner rigged has a spiral cable with about 4 to 5 wraps and enlarges to 3-4 in

And boy does that shit smell bad

It was toilet paper if it was grease it would break apart and smear on the clay that's why I like jetters

Definitely greedy salesman. That was not extremely hard for him to clear and completely ripping out a yard to redo the entire thing is more about cash in his pocket than doing right for the homeowner.

@@kef103 Its roots and paper.

Kef103 not really... Either they rip apart the yard and replace the pipe or they have him out there every 6 months to clean the pipe again because it will just keep getting clogged

I think it was rehearsed.

I would agree with this but the difference in pipe diameters creating the lipped pipe can be a nuisance nonetheless it was poorly thought out and poorly executed. 😊

Your contractor Might be able to use a drain liner look into those They are great. The city does this all the time They still use clay 2ft and under till this day It's cheaper anything 2ft and bigger is PVC and concrete ...So your gonna have to pull a special permit to tap into the city sewer pipe and have inspection done.. Don't worry It's not a biggie just make sure your contractor knows this before you hire or he might walk away from the job but trust me most know this already and It's not to be said but most times the whole drain has to be dug up and replaced from your clean out to the street one or two sidewalk slabs might have to be moved some inspectors se that and demand you have new poured though. I would go with 30/34 PVC only if you know what your doing as far as bedding with gravel and topping same goes for schedule 40 or 80 thicker wall but brittle if not bedded proper needs min of 1-1 1/2 inch pitch per 10 ft -20 ft I think....I would add a clean out before the main 30 ft from the house if more the overall span is greater then 90 ft of drain needs to be installed... you will thank me later If you need to snake the drain or now you can hydro jet if the drain ever clogs again just don't let them install cast iron what ever you do. Hope this helps.

Becouse it is your line the home owner is responsible to the city tap not the other way around

If it’s the city main that collapsed it’s 100% their responsibility

better have deep pockets

Schedule 40 PVC all the way. This guys a fuckin moron. That line was fine other than where it necked down for some reason just another dumb plumber trying to take someone for a bunch of money

@@Ciana_Baby REMEMBER what YOU said next time someone robbed YOU! Why did they rob you? Oh "because he can". #CantFixStupid

My face when he said cast iron 🤔

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Pvc has a longer life span if not exposed to uv rays underground installations are approved for 75+ years my kids kids will fix it when that time comes but I agree on the cast iron it is only used in public areas such as hospitals jails court houses and libraries due to the fire code because when pvc is burn it makes a very bad gass but since they can't sell a lot of cast there saying it's more quiet and reliable phhhhhh lol

Exactly. I heard that and was like....."what did he just say? Did he say replace with cast??" Yep....he sure did. Why not throw in some Orangeburg too while you're at it? SMH.

+mydejavooo1 Lmao! Thanks for that laugh. I know I'm not the only good plumber in this world. Surely it's not him.

correct. it won't corrode or no roots will get in. rubber boot connections .

I originally had cast iron pipes on my home only to be replaced by pvc. Once that happened, my drain/plumbing problems surely began.

SidJustice1 not all plumbers are created equal.

Thats what i was thinking,

How does it NOT need replacing? The pipe Decreases in size! Solid debris will always hang up in that pipe transition. That being said, Cast iron will always rust and fall apart....Eventually. VSP pipe is in good shape except for the crack at the Alleged CO ( no way to tell for certain unless you have a pan and tilt push cam or can locate the clean out cap)

Might just be me but at the end pipe looks broken and offset no?

Look at the video again. The grease clog formed where two joints were out of line. You can see the end of the next joint on the left-hand side.

Yep love my jetter it the besssssttttt and all the restraints love me got them on a 12 month contract and everything

@@calametrocity no it formed because if you look the fitting is blown out and then the grease filled the void thus causing the issue

The man wants his tuna tower

Exactly, no need to fix what ain't broken

But but but but the 45 was blown out causing the issue I think repair is the better option here

Yes

PVC ?? OR DO YOU REALLY MEAN ABS BLK PIPE???

@@mikehurtado3194 dang this was a long time ago but yea pvc pipe sch 40 I still don’t recommend foam core pvc pipe for underground work but if u can find sch 40 with the bell ends go with that

Also less fitting = less problems

Also after looking over the video over again the pipe installed is clay. the Restriction was a 3in cast iorn pipe at the end of the restriction it upsizes to 4in clay. The toilet paper had some tree roots in it most likely from the improper repair. Probably from the clay pipe Collapsing and the quick fix was too shove a pipe In a pipe. I believe I made a snarky joke regarding to the cast iorn repair and took a jab at the old ww2 drain pipe that was installed that is what we know today as orangeburg. And I believe I made a rant about pvc pipe which I still say today but over all I was probably 1/2 asleep when I wrote this lol

The push rod costs a lot more than 3,000 dollars. A good total camera system (Ridgid) is close to 9,000 dollars.

Jarko Limbo Rigid CS10 w/ 200ft reel set me back 11K. Not including the locator.

@@twincitydrain8041 12000 if you include the locater

Y ea cast iron is crazy.

Cast iron. Are you plumb crazy!!?? Get on top of technology dating back 30 years already! ABS all the way!

upsale ?

Exactly . Like I said before he wants to get the tuna tower .

Exactly lol

The qestion is the old pipe running level when you push pull that new hdpe pipe though the old pipe

Customers often resist looking at what might be causing issues, opting to limp along for far too long.

Customers don't want to pay for the camera to go down, it's their choice. I did the same drain within six months and I offered the camera but customer declined.

Because the pipe went from larger diameter to smaller. Someone installed the pipe incorrectly. Gotta fix it then forget it at some point.

Just rent it. You can rent it at Home Depot.

you bought a cheap one off amazon 100 bucks good luck with that haaaaaaa

50-60k

Randy Johnson Don’t blame the plumber. Maybe the homeowners didn’t want to pay extra for the camera service on the previous service visits. There are companies that promise to unclog the drain or it’s free.

Better than CI pipe

It isnt

It is