I’m not going to look through the comments and I don’t care what anyone says. I literally watched this video this morning, bought the parts, and fixed this myself. Proven to work and that’s all that matters to me. Thank you.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Well said glad you were able to get it done Julio!
@bossmoves73613 жыл бұрын
Did you have to remove the saddle valve first
@ronnetteharvey20023 жыл бұрын
@@bossmoves7361 Why would there be a saddle valve? If a person is installing new or repairing. Humm I guess I understand why you haven't had an answer in three months. Not trying to be mean jes saying.
@garymuenzeler55732 ай бұрын
The pin valve is the lazy and risky way to do it. Shamful
@garymuenzeler55732 ай бұрын
Did yiu have a pin valve? What did you do about that?
@miked8772 жыл бұрын
The real beauty here is that both of your alternatives are not that much harder to install than the saddle valve. Plus if you want to undo this, although I cannot think of why, you do not have to repair the pipe. This is a WIN WIN WIN method, thank you.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@pocketchomper3 жыл бұрын
As a chemistry teacher who is attempting installing a water line to the fridge, I appreciate the real-life chemistry you've included in your explanation of why not to use a saddle valve! Great visual as well.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@MartinJohnsonV2 жыл бұрын
One question I have about that is the 2 alternatives are made out of brass also... aren't they?
@classoniastelly85803 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I have had the illegal contraption in my junk drawer for years. I have been scared to install it because I did not feel it was safe. I am so happy I came across this video before our new frig install. Great video.
@andrewtannis7523 Жыл бұрын
Thank God for you and for your video, I'm not in the business of remodeling but I was trying to hookup a water supply line for the fridge but didn't like the idea of using a saddle valve. I was beginning to think that I was crazy for not trusting the saddle valve, until I saw your video gave me some great reason not to use them.
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Awesome Andrew glad to help
@MrJimmy-ox7fq Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt, this is a very professionally done video. Clear, concise, accurate information is what I was looking for, and this, sir, certainly fit the bill. I was hesitant to remove and old SV (on the copper pipe under the kitchen sink, but currently not in use) but now I want to remove that old ticking time bomb asap. I know about shark bite, and I've used them with success, but the "Rolls-Royce" dual cut-off valve looks like the way to go to me, for my particular job (very limited space). Thank you so much for your time and talent. Stay safe!
@koosh302 жыл бұрын
You saved me alot of trouble with this tip. My house was built in 1970. The previous owner did no renovations. I had the copper line for ice maker that snapped. I installed this and used a braided line to run from under the kitchen sink to the fridge. Now I have ice and water from my fridge. 😁
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
awesome, thanks for sharing
@koosh302 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff I still have the saddle valve but it's shut. How do I remove it if I choose to without any issues? Any videos?
@ScottTrosien3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an alternative technique which replicates the typical scenario where a saddle valve is used such as on an existing pipe running in the basement without the convenience of the end of a pipe as demonstrated in these two alternatives. I would like to replace the saddle valves the previous owner used for bother the furnace humidifier and the water dispenser but those are taps off of the cold water pipe on on both sides of the water heater pipe. nether of these "end" fittings work for this common scenario.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am chomping at the bit for this also, I might have to make up a mock scenario on this!
@gameratortylerstein56363 жыл бұрын
Can’t you make a T in the pipe and put an end fitting on the end of the T?
@mariocorona1166 Жыл бұрын
PPP pop pop up on my own but it 😊😊
@jewdd1989 Жыл бұрын
Check out here on YT Big Guy DIY “how to add an ice line”. He shows how to use a tee fitting that’s (if your pipe is actually 1/2” and check for if it’s (OD) outer diameter or (ID) inner diameter to be sure you find the right fitting but he used a shark bite tee fitting 1/2”x1/2”x1/4”. Be sure to have the right copper pipe cutter meant for a range of pipe sizes (found at Home Depot or any hardware store) and you’ll measure on the shark it’s connector how much to cut off your copper pipe. It’s much easier if you head to his channel and watch the detailed step by steps that he does for himself. You’ll have to remove the saddle or cut that part off but it’s much easier than soldering and I’m sure less headache. I did see that you need to check what kind of copper pipe it is: (ASTM B88) for this shark bite fitting
@garybrady7245 Жыл бұрын
They sell a Tee Shark Bite valve that has a 1/4" male to screw your icemaker line to. It's a little pricey ($27) but worth it when in a pinch
@glengilzean49873 жыл бұрын
Without you I would be putting a hole in my copper pipe. You saved me time, headache and money 👍🏾. Thanks a billion
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@philipsoppe19483 жыл бұрын
I put a saddle valve on my pipe 40 years it still working okay
@eliyahusamuelson4783 жыл бұрын
@@philipsoppe1948 aaaub
@frostdotn3t3 жыл бұрын
Plumber here. Good and informative, appreciate your accurate advice laid out well for everyone to understand. Trust him 👍🏼
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Jose!
@frogworth16223 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this post. I was thinking of how I was going to sweat in a new shutoff, etc and hated the idea of those lousy saddle valves to run my new fridge water line. The adapter is such a simple solution. The dual valve even better. Didn't know either were available! Your point of how temporary solutions become permanent is pure gold and so true 😉
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@pongpongpiano504 Жыл бұрын
For a plumbing channel, this is amazing camera work
@blissful152 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video,well explained and i highly recommend these instructions. Saved me a $90.00 charge. i got my valve alternative fix by watching and following this video.Thank you.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to help!
@ocmacman177 ай бұрын
Dude, great video. I loved it!!! I am getting a new refridge and my house is old. I know I want an icemaker and this dual valve just saved me hundreds, yes hundreds. The ice-maker kit was over 100.00 and I can install this valve. Hopefully I have a cooper pipe sticking under the sink but not sure. House is over 50 years old.
@Robnord13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I do RV plumbing which is mostly PEX. These saddle valves are garbage on them too. It ovals the tubing, then as they age, the rubber saddle seal hardens. When I come in to do a little plumbing, brush up against or disturb it in some way, it often begins leaking!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info on the PEX because I haven't used PEX yet and so I always figured well maybe it would not be as harmful on PEX as it would be on Copper where it would corrode on the metal pipes. Now I see what you were saying how the oval distortion could cause problems and I never even thought about the drying rubber.
@biker555553 жыл бұрын
Building inspector here, Jeff is 100% correct about saddle valves and their use.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Good to have confirmation
@loveeara3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I am a notorious DIYer, my husband and I are very handy and I cannot justify a plumber for something like this (and to be honest most plumbers won’t come out for something this basic). I knew saddle valve was not great but the second you said “so think about chemistry” I was like YIKES okay what’s the alternative! Returning my saddle valve and going to get the adapter you first showed. I can handle that! Easier than saddle valve!
@loveeara3 жыл бұрын
Just finished… took me 30 minutes including having to route the line through the cabinets in a nice hidden way and checking for leaks. Thank you so so much!!
@DeWitteWilson Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these. I have two saddle valves that have been in for over 10 years and I don't have any real problems, but I don't love them or anything. I've always wanted some alternative and I would have never, ever guessed that option #1 was available. Makes me wonder why they don't just include those with the kits instead of the saddle valves. Sure would have been a lot cleaner, and you can turn off the cold or hot (for the dishwasher) water with the regular turn off for the sink.
@mikerequadt96614 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and once again 100% correct. That second valve is the cat's meow, their coming up with some pretty cool stuff these days. You could almost give a demo on the 5 in one wrenches, I might have to get on the tools again just so I use one. Cheers. Illinois Plumbing Code: No pipe or fitting of the water supply system shall be drilled or tapped nor 2391 shall any band or saddle be used International Plumbing code: 605.9 Prohibited joints and connections. The following types of joints and connections shall be prohibited:4. Saddle-type fittings U.P.C.: pretty much the same, oh there is one thing most codes have a provision that if you do anything to contravene the code it turns into a punishable offense, and no legitimately licenced plumber would risk his license to put in on of those self piercing valves, those are usually good for the scrap bucket.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Yes we plan on doing a video for the Ridgid One Stop Wrench
@djrajiisab6 ай бұрын
Awesome advice. Bought the preferred solution for my cofee maker. Thank you man! Pro quality advice.
@jeffostroff6 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@davidpurdy26892 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you. In the end, this (adapter method) turned out to be the most sensible way to connect our new fridge to a water source. Glad to have avoided the saddle valve; in our previous house there we 5 'orphaned' saddle valves beneath the kitchen from previous owners.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 5 saddle valves showed someone clearly had no clue. Surprised it did not leak.
@joshuaknights304 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you making this video! I bought a new fridge and dishwasher, and going to hook everything up there was a saddle valve installed. I went out and bought the duel valve 1/4 and 3/8 will be perfect because my dishwasher and fridge are on the same side of kitchen on their own water line! So perfect love it! Thanks
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Joshua, you did it right! This is the Way!
@buckyswider13 жыл бұрын
Wait you're not thinking of using the 3/8 for the dishwasher and the 1/4 for the icemaker off the same line are you? Icemaker should be off of the cold water line, while the dishwasher should be off of the hot.
@joshuaknights303 жыл бұрын
@@buckyswider1 I did quite a bit of research about which water line to use for the ice maker. And it really comes down to personal choice. Also my ice water line has been on the hot before I bought the 🏠!
@buckyswider13 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaknights30 Interesting! A quick google reveals quite a controversy on this subject, with some asserting that the hot water is 'cleaner', others saying it's 'dirtier', and some saying it makes zero difference. And I guess my assumption was that lots of fridges these days have water dispensers. Def don't want hot water running to that!!! But I guess as far as temp goes, it makes no difference for ice only- by the time you consume that 'water', it will be plenty cold!!
@kerrwinduverge5552 Жыл бұрын
I do HVAC and those are similar yo piercing valves which are temporary. Any plumber should never argue wuth what you said as the first thungs I learned when dealing with water cooled equipment is being very careful with dissimilar metals on piping amd if you have to using dielectric fittings to prevent as much corrosion as possible. Saddle valves are temp valves or where a leak wont matter. Great video!
@voiceofreason43993 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m dealing with a corroded saddle valve right now put on right above an Hvac duct. Impossible to get to without major effort. These are definitely not the way to add a water line. Thanks for showing the alternative solutions
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
You bet, glad to help
@hughbunyea47033 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree with this guy, leaving now to go to the hardware store to get this valve so I can change the junk T valve I just installed. Thanks
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Right on Hugh!
@purdue_pete3 жыл бұрын
This video deserves WAY more likes!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete!
@dawinner7773 жыл бұрын
I was going to use one on pex and never were told they were bad. Thanks for the great video
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure these would be bad on Pex too.
@kanaletumlinson3 жыл бұрын
My question was if it’s against building code why do big stores sell the kit? You answered my question!! We bought a new refrigerator that has ice maker so I bought the install kit from Lowe’s prior to installing I came across you video and I am glad I did!!! Thank you so much, the fitting I decided to go with was much easier to install plus it is legal...great video, keep them coming!! New subscriber here!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Stores don't know, don't care, it comes from the manufacturer that way and that's how they sell it.
@Jaxrawr3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jeff, I was just about to attempt the saddle being a new homeowner and this covers all the issues I thought about! Confirmed my doubts
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@Try2Bcre8v6 ай бұрын
I bought a kit from Home Depot that came with a saddle valve, and upon reading instructions I said “hell the F no”. Amazing that HD would sell something that seems so obviously terrible. Glad to see in this video my instincts were right.
@jimwagnerclips Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am a handyman and never liked the idea of a saddle valve whether it's code or not. It just didn't make sense to me to make a permanent hole in a pipe. Using the valve adaptor is a way better solution!
@michaelcampbell79042 жыл бұрын
The very first video I saw on running a ice line was for the saddle valve then I came across your video I’m so glad I didn’t stop at the saddle valve video these seem much easier and I don’t have to climb under my house thank you
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@caleblauber14413 жыл бұрын
Thank- you, Thank YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I’m installing a water line to the refrigerator today & just didn’t feel good about the “IV line” procedure puncturing a copper tube (I’m a doctor). The potential complications are tremendous. Kinda like placing an intraosseous line in the tibia. You want to do it right the first time but are wrought with problems if not done correctly.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad we got you in time Caleb
@rishidhar6499 Жыл бұрын
Got rid of my saddle valve and went with option 2 (dual stop) - easy peasy to install after cutting the copper pipe in the kitchen sink..
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
That's how you do it
@WRod14643 жыл бұрын
Thanks great advise. Just finished the hookup with the first piece u mentioned. 2 minutes, just make sure your hoses are nicely tighten 👌.
@jewdd1989 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would demonstrate actually switching out a saddle valve that is in the center of one long copper pipe rather than an easy end fitting scenario, I appreciate this video and your efforts very much I just know mine and many others are saddled in a place that requires removing of the saddle and cutting or soldering on tee fittings
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
I plan on doing a video for this
@TheEvie2024 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo as usual! The ice maker hook ups are problems. I was using the plastic tubing ten years no problem . New fridge 8 months in got a pinhole behind the wall👎🏼! Stainless steel hose and a brass cutoff for me😃 Greetings from NYC👍🏼🗽
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I only use those stainless hoses now, nothing else will do.
@tomelmore39933 жыл бұрын
You are eloquent. Your #2 solution is elegant. Thanks for your former video on 4 fixtures never to use & this high utility video on the legal options for 1st time connections of ice maker line to a cold water line.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@edgardavid5417 Жыл бұрын
I think there is a very simple Solution for installing saddle valve, in this video I notice at the top of the saddle valve with rubber looks ok, solution is just put a same rubber at the buttom of the saddle valve to the pipe 😁
@aaaa19532 жыл бұрын
Just found a severely corroded saddle valve on my hot water heater pipe. Rubber was compressed and hard and cracked. Had to hacksaw the bolts, never again. Good info, Thanks!
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@lowhertzhighspl2 жыл бұрын
Imo the haters are mostly plumbers being pissed about regular people being able to watch how to videos like this, lowering their demand for simple jobs. Not just plumbers. At first I also would be annoyed if I were a plumber but instead of wasting time complaining I'd ridirect that time and energy to start thinking of new creative ways to create more demand for my services. Like creative cross marketing. But that's just me and my opinion. Nothing wrong with people having opinions. Great video!
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
There are still plenty of repairs that plumbers can do which homeowners cannot do they will always have plenty of business believe me and a leak in the middle of the light at the end of the day or on a holiday weekend, and most people are panicked and don't have the time to learn or figure out what tools they need to go by they know it's going to be cheaper to just get the plumber
@agostinodibella99392 жыл бұрын
I just recently removed one of these after watching this video. It may have been 30+ years old, but I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to shut it off because it was stuck open. After it was off, I found that the piercing pin did break off so I was glad it’s now gone. I used a 1/2” compression inlet with 1/4” output valve along with a soldered tee fitting.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
That's how you do it bro! I think you dodged a future bullet there.
@Glowrc Жыл бұрын
Was about to use one of these today the i thought of how trashy this contraption is and threw it in the trash....im glad i did and thank you for the video
@johngrossi81674 жыл бұрын
Just moved to Florida, new fridge coming in two days. Up north, everyone seemed to have a saddle valve, and one by one they ended up with problems. Your solutions are so easy, and not being a plumber, had no idea they existed. Thank you, I subscribed and will check out your other videos.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help John and thanks for subscribing
@ronaldm3093 жыл бұрын
Here is where I am. 13 years ago I bought a refrigerator at Lowes. My house is on a crawl space and the refrigerator installer placed a saddle valve just inside the crawlspace door. He did not place the saddle valve on the main supply line but on an adjacent connecting line. Last month I replaced the refrigerator. The existing saddle valve was completely rusted. Yours truly removed it and replaced it with a new saddle valve plus a 20 ft braded supply line just like the one in your video. If I had the patience to do it, it would take a 1/2 hour to fill a glass of water and ice production is pathetic. So, what is my best solution? Ideally, I prefer to remove the saddle valve and solder in a new copper T connection. 1. What should I do about the hole created by the saddle valve? Shouldn't the new T connection be installed on the main supply line? I have no plumbing skills but my daughter says my son-in-law can solder copper pipe.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Remove saddle valve, cut the pipe, solder on a T-fitting, then solder a small pipe onto the T-fitting, then install a compression fit 1/4 turn ball valve with a 1/4" output ice maker line is smaller.
@jgladstone1792 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate a lot about this video and I agree with you entirely Jeff. It would be helpful, however, to have instructions for lay individuals on how to replace these awful existing saddle valves. The reason(s) that so many of these crappy valves remain in properties is because of the plumbing work which is involved to install a proper valve. Most homeowners are too unsure of themselves (me included) to cut/sweat a 'T' for the installation of a proper valve. Jeff....howsabout a video for that?
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
I plan to do a video on this pretty soon
@DeelitefulJestr2 жыл бұрын
Video quality is Next gen. Love that you film at 4k 60fps. Great colour grading too.
@XDM_Studios2 жыл бұрын
man, these valve methods are WAAAY better! i like the second one for dual valves
@user-qb6wf9ke6s2 ай бұрын
So Jeff, I'm convinced! Now, how do I remove my in-line saddle valve and repair the copper pipe that now has a hole in it?
@russelltvrdik32664 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I was researching the use of this valve before and now will spring for the adapter. Thanks much.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help good thing we caught you in time Russel!
@terryq99664 жыл бұрын
Jeff, Sioux Chief has a fitting called an "Add-A-Line" (part 601-G20CV) for those interested in just replacing their old saddle fitting. A bit more complicated than what you have shown, but not all fridge lines can be run from under the sink. Even if you could, you'd still have to do something with the old valve or it's still gonna sit there and continue to corrode. Sioux Chief product is simple that it has a compression fitting on each end for your main run with a 1/4" side tap for the fridge hose. All you need to do is turn off water, remover old valve, clean off about an inch of pipe on both sides of the old hole in pipe cut out a small section of the copper line where saddle valve used to be, install this new fitting where you just made the cut and then install fridge line. Easy, peasy and very professional. Just a thought. GREAT video and oh so true!
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into this one for future video ideas
@garystilson77614 жыл бұрын
Awesome Jeff, thank you for providing the link to this video. I will now hook up my ice-maker the right way.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@kaulliemiller3 жыл бұрын
Well i bought tge saddle valve kit at menards. Saw some videos with people not likeing but 🤷♂️ eh i wasn't convinced. But after Your actually visual example though.... im out of 10$ i guess. Back to the hardware store, you sold me on the second hook up lol. Thank you for the video
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to help
@tnm1404 жыл бұрын
I didnt want to wait for my plumber very whose busy. I considered doing this. Ill just wait. Thanks !
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that!
@mythology00072 жыл бұрын
Man I'm glad I saw this video I just bought myself the saddle version and was just about to install it and then I saw this video!!
@christopherpatterson7154 жыл бұрын
So glad your video popped up, the store tried to sale me that. Thanks for this information!
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help Christopher!
@rishidhar6499 Жыл бұрын
Wow amazingly presented information (especially the sizes since homeowners rarely know everything)!
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@mergsTM4 жыл бұрын
Good topic, and good video but I have some constructive criticism: the video is a little long. Some editing could have made this video even better by getting it down to about 10 minutes long or so, from 18. Also I would rearrange the order of the subtopics: start with a shortened version of the huge problems with the saddle valve first, then go into the 3 solution in order. Just my 2c.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
I worked really hard to get it down to 18 minutes, Also since this is a video about alternatives to the saddle valve, you start off by talking about the saddle valve failures, you're going to have all the viewers bail on you because they were promised a video showing alternatives, and 2 minutes in, still no alternative shown.
@tomfink50093 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Handmaiden2theKing773 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@BBradshaw1312 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. Yeah "This Old House" said the same thing about not being able to use the saddle valves lol
@scopex27493 жыл бұрын
These are a much safer and more watertight method than a saddle valve. Ask yourself......if you were in a submarine a few hundred feet underwater would you feel happy if you looked up at the piping and saw A SADDLE VALVE.........? 🤔Or would you feel safer with correct pressure tested adaptor.......OK an extreme example.........but if an SV blows above a ceiling or in an attic thats gonna cost $$$$$’s.........WORK SAFE guys. The only place for saddle valves......😩.....throw them in the dumpster! I was an Armed Forces engineer for over 45 years.......I recommend this channel👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Well spoken!
@c_purzycki3 жыл бұрын
Very educational and easy to understand! Great video and thanks for all the links.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help cp!
@marcuswhite94273 жыл бұрын
Your method looks more durable, the saddle valve looks questionable to me. Thanks I'll be going with the connection you recommended!!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
I just installed another set of these this week at a friend's house remodel
@crayh5o Жыл бұрын
Great thorough video and explanations. What do you suggest to replace a saddle valve that is coming off of my hot water heater to the house humidifier? Maybe you could do a video on it?
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
I am working on a video for this
@crayh5o Жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Awesome. Looking forward to it. Thank you.
@handymanhogan68823 жыл бұрын
Glad I kept my comments to myself about the saddle valve
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
We always want to hear people's comments on saddle valves
@saidyassin54982 жыл бұрын
Thank you- I just learned something new. I have been using Saddle valves for over 20 years to ONLY drain pipes that supplies water to outdoor faucets. Am I in violation of the NYS code?
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the code covers outside or not it's just that when I see it in the code and it says what is not allowed and it's a saddle type fittings that to me since we shouldn't be using them at all
@gaylebyron44942 жыл бұрын
I have a humidifier that was hook up with one of these to my water heater pipe and it leaked so I’ve shut it down and not used it for years. Just ran into your video thanks for info.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@vincemorath6763 жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
glad to help Vince!
@stevesether4 жыл бұрын
I agree that saddle valves are a bad idea. I have two of them in my house, and while they haven't leaked while having them in for over a decade, I still want to replace them. What I don't agree with is the idea that "it's bad because it's against code". There's plenty of examples of things in the plumbing code that just go too far in safety. One is Air Admittance Valves. In my state they're against code. In my, and many plumbers opinions, this is silly since they're built to last 30 years (and are in fact legal in many states). So I really think you need to demonstrate more than just being against plumbing code.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
I did demonstrate it, I mentioned the case of dissimilar metals touching, and humidity in the area of the saddle valve causing the metal to corrode.
@JotszMills Жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video
@bay98764 жыл бұрын
The saddle valve is on the cold water supply which means its much cooler than the moist air surrounding it. This is a good source of condensation for electrolysis.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Could be in some case, here in FL, mostly cold water line is at room temperature, so only the complex formula of temperature difference and humidity.
@bossmoves73613 жыл бұрын
Should the valve be placed on the cold water line or the hot water line? Thank you 👌🏿
@kayacrowley4 жыл бұрын
Could you please instruct what to do if a saddle valve has already been installed for an ice maker? I understand there is a hole from the saddle valve in the pipe now,. Please instruct how to remedy the situation & use one of your methods. Thanks!
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Yes I can, you have to cut that section of copper pipe out where the hole is, and I would solder in a copper T fitting, and solder in a small 3-4" pipe length, so that you can add the correct 1/4 turn ball compression valve right there where you T'd off of the water pipe.
@kayacrowley4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Thanks for your response. That sounds too complicated for us to do ourselves, as we don't solder. Are we stuck with the saddle valve and really low pressure in our fridge water dispenser if we opt not to use a plumber? And if we got a plumber to do it your way, how much would it cost?
@aunderiskerensky2304 Жыл бұрын
i was just about to put one in for an inline air humidifier, but it... seemed chintzy to me, had a weird feeling about it. glad to know my intuitions still pretty good. i like that dual saddle valve. it solves all the problems, and honestly.. 40 bucks for a part that has independent control and no weird metal ... something something chemisty two metals rust blah blah im a tile installer and idk. regardless, 40 bucks even for piece of mind. fuckit. im going to get one.
@david029014 Жыл бұрын
best video on you tube! thank you for the links!
@IceManOregon Жыл бұрын
How do you remove a saddle valve? How does one deal with the hole the saddle valve left in the copper pipe? Mine is under my house
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Somebody has to crawl under there and get to it. Basically what they do is cut the copper pipe, and then they saw her on AT adapterAnd then they could put their copper stuff out on the tea adapter for which they can put the valve at the end. I am going to do a video on this very soon
@jasonbabila60064 жыл бұрын
I love 1/4 turn valves, instant shut off.👀👍🏽
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
You bet brother, when you have water gushing at 60 PSI, those multi turn shut off valves seem to take an eternity to choke off that water.
@jasonbabila60064 жыл бұрын
That’s one reason why I replaced the old main valve to the house, toilet, sink, and washer valves to 1/4 turn valves.
@tylerstephens85423 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I watched this. I was just about to install one. Seems like an easy fix though.. add another piece of rubber on the underside, plus galvanized or brass screws, no?
@mvtroiano2 жыл бұрын
Logical explanation! I hope I can find the three way valve.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Easy to find, plus I have links below in video description
@andrewstern40143 ай бұрын
Jeff, I just got a new fridge delivered and when they were removing the old one I noticed a copper supply line was connected. I checked under my sink and noticed there was a saddle valve which I am unsure if it works or not. Prior to this, I was already considering installing the valve adapter solution you described. My question to you is, what is the best way for me to proceed? Should I leave the saddle in place, make sure it's fully closed and go the valve adapter route?
@geepee48044 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to see! One question tho, if I add the part under my kitchen sink, how do I repair the saddle valve? Will I, should I get a plumber for this job? Saddle valve located in the basement above a cabinet, hard to reach/repair.
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
I would cut off water to the house, drain that line as much as possible, and cut through that pipe where the saddle valve was and put a copper pipe coupling there, that pin hole needs to be removed.
@geepee48043 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@comeseeme223 жыл бұрын
Question.. What to do if there's a need for third connection? I have a filtered water system, ice maker line and a faucet that need to be connected. Would it be feasible to use both the 1st and 2nd options? Great video, and even better information!! Spend a little more for peace of mind in the long run.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Yes, or get a y-adapter
@clairedevore41822 жыл бұрын
great video. quality is excellent as well as the instructions
@bobcoats27082 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Saddle valves are a lazy and flawed solution. Years ago, I installed a saddle valve that was included with a reverse osmosis water system. Started leaking immediately, which I can see now was probably the best thing that could have happened. Had to replace the pipe that now had a hole in it of course, and went to a valve that had two outlets: 3/8 and 1/4 inch. Problem solved.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Glad it leaked right away and you caught it!
@PhantomRX3 жыл бұрын
Welp, our previously installed saddle valve is corroded and leaking. Just need a video of how to replace these properly. If you have a video, that would be awesome!
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that Have not done one yet but would like to
@MAD62XEDX4 жыл бұрын
WOW YOU ARE GOOD-----------THANKS MR. JEFFOSTROFF
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@konamanstudio24474 жыл бұрын
I wish left foot 1 in my house cuz we removed fire refrigerator but have an ice maker with one with did how do you take care of thin line Richards Building I probably didn't know know and just put the cap what you get from the refrigerator on to it it didn't leak so I guess it's working keep up the great work and most important cheers with a beer
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@ChopLiverWorst2 жыл бұрын
Love this video and your wisdom, glad I watched this before setting mine up. I’ll go with the rolls Royce!!
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@abibodlogistics3 жыл бұрын
I like your workbench,where can I get one like it and are there bigger sizes.Your presentation is very good,helpful and educative,I hope people will understand that it is all for their benefit.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
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@abibodlogistics3 жыл бұрын
Where can I check for the workbench I seriously need it and as a matter of fact I have been trying to get something like this for a while now.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
@@abibodlogistics They have them at Home Depot, that's the link to it I posted above
@stancal96802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying 😊👍
@hdwelsh2 жыл бұрын
I can’t seem to find the dual stop adapter anywhere online. This looks like a fantastic solution! Do you happen to have a link to the part, or could you possibly tell me how to search for it? Thank you.
@jeffostroff2 жыл бұрын
I linked to it in the video description.
@sue-zee479810 ай бұрын
I am replacing a refrigerator that has been in use for 14 yrs. The saddle valve is installed to the copper pipe which is located on the lower level, with the ice maker water line fed thru the floor behind the refrigerator. This has not been a problem, but the dealer has told me I need a shut off directly behind the refrigerator. What kind of valve do I need to install to replace the saddle valve?
@LRWoogie5027 ай бұрын
How would you go about stopping/plugging the end? I recently got a new fridge and had to move the location bc of size; now my copper line has a constant drip. Trying to think of a good way to plug it. Doesn’t have a valve on it; saddle right at the water heater
@jeffostroff7 ай бұрын
Buy a plastic water line cap for the copper tube. Great instructions here: www.hunker.com/12490072/how-to-cap-a-copper-refrigerator-water-line
@LRWoogie5027 ай бұрын
THANKS!!
@maggiecimba7390Ай бұрын
Great video
@jeffostroffАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@proanswers4 жыл бұрын
just replaced a grounding strap on the water pipe bonding/ground from a electrician and plumber and inspector that missed (or overlooked or got paid off to approve) Due to dissimilar metals corroding a hole on a water pipe. Took 15 years but the damage was in the thousands. BY the way-WE did the proper splice (as an educated and continue to educate myself electrician) on the grounding strap- as 2 previous electricians did it wrong. YOU CAN ONLY USE IRREVERSIBLE COMPRESSION CONNECTORS on splicing grounding wire that bonds water pipes (bonding ground that goes back to the service panel usually) OTHER methods are using exothermic welding process. NEC 250 i.e. Burndy C-tap takes 12 ton Crimper to properly attach C-tap. I say all this because I see these bumper stickers HIRE LICENSED CONTRACTORS -doesnt mean SHI$% The DBPR in Florida is set up to take money and hand out "so called licenses for advertising" not educate and protect the consumer. The best protection is ask lots of questions, build a loyal/trusting/open communication reputation with a trades-person (unlicensed or licensed) and arm your self with factual content - start off with small projects with any new contractor or tradesperson ((I dont like saying handyman/person)) i.e.like jeffostroff videos. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6t0aMWrmZbTp2Q.html
@jeffostroff4 жыл бұрын
What metal was it they used? I would think of you are going to clamp anything onto a copper pipe, it should be copper. I see a lot of those brass ground wire clamps at Home Depot, and wonder about whether people are installing them on copper pipes.
@proanswers4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff 2 issues with the process with the metal in the plumbing. Plumber used galvanized pipe (nipple) with out a dielectric coupling to the copper joining. Then the electrician used a galvanized strap on the copper!! (instead of the galvanized pipe portion or the correct copper grounding strap to copper). One common flaw and I think you bring it up sometimes in your videos; tradespeople don't necessary have the science background when trades cross one another- you wont get that with any contractors license. I spend decades studying science I think one has to be humble in what they need to stay educated within; I call it staying hungry for knowledge- the right youtube channels (a lot of bad ones) can help with that thirst for knowledge. Agree most of the stuff at home depot and lowes is marketed towards novice band-aide(s) solutions.
@adamnox22683 жыл бұрын
So is a copper saddle valve an acceptable solution if you don't have tools and need to do something about a brass saddle valve, and do you need to get plastic on both sides to prevent all contact in such a case?
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
No Adam sorry the idea of piercing a pressure pipe like that on from the outside is just not a good idea and in fact that's why it's banned by plumbing code, and if your insurance company ever performs a four point inspection on your house and sees it they will force you to remove it or they will drop you from the policy. The best course of action which is what most professional plumbers do is they will cut that pipe and insert a T fitting in there and then put a little stub of copper pipe on that T fitting and then add a compression fitting water shutoff valve on there. It's a pretty fast and easy job for the guys that do this all the time for you you could just watch a few videos on how to do it and do it yourself it's not that hard.
@GalsOutwestTreasureHunting18 күн бұрын
So I'm not getting how the ice line goes all the way from under the kitchen sink over to the fridge. Does that mean running it through the walls? Also, Can I use the dual valve on the copper pipe that sticks out of the wall behind the fridge instead? It's only like an inch off the ground tho. I have to have a cutoff valve within 6 feet of the fridge to have my new fridge/ice maker hooked up. Right now it is just a capped off copper pipe behind the fridge. (this was capped when I had a leak/flood about 15 yrs ago) What would you suggest? thx
@alden4270 Жыл бұрын
for the double valve method is that metal also not brass, and would eventually lead to galvanic corrosion as well? if it was such a bad thing for the saddle valve wouldn't the same be true for this as well?
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Apparently they are inert enough metals to not interfere with each other
@alden4270 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff which leads to my next question would putting a rubber piece of material on the other side help prevent the galvanic corrosion? don't get me wrong i don't think these saddle taps are a great idea, but there could be things done to them to make them less of an issue at least with how prevalent they are.
@tdz693 жыл бұрын
Great but what if your sink is too far away from the fridge? How do you tap into an existing nearby pipe with Somethig other than a saddle valve?
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
At my friend's house we ran a 20' ice maker line, and had to drill holes on the side of 3 cabinets to feed the ice maker line through.
@tdz693 жыл бұрын
jeffostroff thanks but that’s not my question. I have the water line for the fridge tapped into a nearby pipe with a saddle valve. Is there a fitting to use at this pipe instead of the saddle valve?
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
@@tdz69 This video shows you exactly 2 different parts that you can use that are alternatives, watch the video.
@tdz693 жыл бұрын
jeffostroff I did but both parts you show are connected by the sink faucet. I’m asking what can I use at the existing pipe that has the saddle valve. I’m trying to do that rather than run to the sink which is a distance from the fridge. Thanks.
@jeffostroff3 жыл бұрын
@@tdz69 Cut out the old saddle valve, and put a copper T-fitting there, and then install a small stub of copper pipe soldered to the tee fitting. Then on the end of that copper pipe stub, compression install the shutoff valve that has the 1/4" output for the ice maker.
@waterheaterservices4 жыл бұрын
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