I’m not going to look through the comments and I don’t care what anyone says. I literally watched this video this morning, bought the parts, and fixed this myself. Proven to work and that’s all that matters to me. Thank you.

The real beauty here is that both of your alternatives are not that much harder to install than the saddle valve. Plus if you want to undo this, although I cannot think of why, you do not have to repair the pipe. This is a WIN WIN WIN method, thank you.

As a chemistry teacher who is attempting installing a water line to the fridge, I appreciate the real-life chemistry you've included in your explanation of why not to use a saddle valve! Great visual as well.

THANK YOU!!! I have had the illegal contraption in my junk drawer for years. I have been scared to install it because I did not feel it was safe. I am so happy I came across this video before our new frig install. Great video.

Thank God for you and for your video, I'm not in the business of remodeling but I was trying to hookup a water supply line for the fridge but didn't like the idea of using a saddle valve. I was beginning to think that I was crazy for not trusting the saddle valve, until I saw your video gave me some great reason not to use them.

Without a doubt, this is a very professionally done video. Clear, concise, accurate information is what I was looking for, and this, sir, certainly fit the bill. I was hesitant to remove and old SV (on the copper pipe under the kitchen sink, but currently not in use) but now I want to remove that old ticking time bomb asap. I know about shark bite, and I've used them with success, but the "Rolls-Royce" dual cut-off valve looks like the way to go to me, for my particular job (very limited space). Thank you so much for your time and talent. Stay safe!

You saved me alot of trouble with this tip. My house was built in 1970. The previous owner did no renovations. I had the copper line for ice maker that snapped. I installed this and used a braided line to run from under the kitchen sink to the fridge. Now I have ice and water from my fridge. 😁

Would love to see an alternative technique which replicates the typical scenario where a saddle valve is used such as on an existing pipe running in the basement without the convenience of the end of a pipe as demonstrated in these two alternatives. I would like to replace the saddle valves the previous owner used for bother the furnace humidifier and the water dispenser but those are taps off of the cold water pipe on on both sides of the water heater pipe. nether of these "end" fittings work for this common scenario.

Without you I would be putting a hole in my copper pipe. You saved me time, headache and money 👍🏾. Thanks a billion

Plumber here. Good and informative, appreciate your accurate advice laid out well for everyone to understand. Trust him 👍🏼

Thanks so much for this post. I was thinking of how I was going to sweat in a new shutoff, etc and hated the idea of those lousy saddle valves to run my new fridge water line. The adapter is such a simple solution. The dual valve even better. Didn't know either were available! Your point of how temporary solutions become permanent is pure gold and so true 😉

For a plumbing channel, this is amazing camera work

Excellent Video,well explained and i highly recommend these instructions. Saved me a $90.00 charge. i got my valve alternative fix by watching and following this video.Thank you.

Dude, great video. I loved it!!! I am getting a new refridge and my house is old. I know I want an icemaker and this dual valve just saved me hundreds, yes hundreds. The ice-maker kit was over 100.00 and I can install this valve. Hopefully I have a cooper pipe sticking under the sink but not sure. House is over 50 years old.

Excellent video. I do RV plumbing which is mostly PEX. These saddle valves are garbage on them too. It ovals the tubing, then as they age, the rubber saddle seal hardens. When I come in to do a little plumbing, brush up against or disturb it in some way, it often begins leaking!

Building inspector here, Jeff is 100% correct about saddle valves and their use.

THANK YOU! I am a notorious DIYer, my husband and I are very handy and I cannot justify a plumber for something like this (and to be honest most plumbers won’t come out for something this basic). I knew saddle valve was not great but the second you said “so think about chemistry” I was like YIKES okay what’s the alternative! Returning my saddle valve and going to get the adapter you first showed. I can handle that! Easier than saddle valve!

Thank you for posting these. I have two saddle valves that have been in for over 10 years and I don't have any real problems, but I don't love them or anything. I've always wanted some alternative and I would have never, ever guessed that option #1 was available. Makes me wonder why they don't just include those with the kits instead of the saddle valves. Sure would have been a lot cleaner, and you can turn off the cold or hot (for the dishwasher) water with the regular turn off for the sink.

Excellent presentation and once again 100% correct. That second valve is the cat's meow, their coming up with some pretty cool stuff these days. You could almost give a demo on the 5 in one wrenches, I might have to get on the tools again just so I use one. Cheers. Illinois Plumbing Code: No pipe or fitting of the water supply system shall be drilled or tapped nor 2391 shall any band or saddle be used International Plumbing code: 605.9 Prohibited joints and connections. The following types of joints and connections shall be prohibited:4. Saddle-type fittings U.P.C.: pretty much the same, oh there is one thing most codes have a provision that if you do anything to contravene the code it turns into a punishable offense, and no legitimately licenced plumber would risk his license to put in on of those self piercing valves, those are usually good for the scrap bucket.

Awesome advice. Bought the preferred solution for my cofee maker. Thank you man! Pro quality advice.

Very helpful. Thank you. In the end, this (adapter method) turned out to be the most sensible way to connect our new fridge to a water source. Glad to have avoided the saddle valve; in our previous house there we 5 'orphaned' saddle valves beneath the kitchen from previous owners.

I appreciate you making this video! I bought a new fridge and dishwasher, and going to hook everything up there was a saddle valve installed. I went out and bought the duel valve 1/4 and 3/8 will be perfect because my dishwasher and fridge are on the same side of kitchen on their own water line! So perfect love it! Thanks

I do HVAC and those are similar yo piercing valves which are temporary. Any plumber should never argue wuth what you said as the first thungs I learned when dealing with water cooled equipment is being very careful with dissimilar metals on piping amd if you have to using dielectric fittings to prevent as much corrosion as possible. Saddle valves are temp valves or where a leak wont matter. Great video!

Great video. I’m dealing with a corroded saddle valve right now put on right above an Hvac duct. Impossible to get to without major effort. These are definitely not the way to add a water line. Thanks for showing the alternative solutions

I 1000% agree with this guy, leaving now to go to the hardware store to get this valve so I can change the junk T valve I just installed. Thanks

This video deserves WAY more likes!

I was going to use one on pex and never were told they were bad. Thanks for the great video

My question was if it’s against building code why do big stores sell the kit? You answered my question!! We bought a new refrigerator that has ice maker so I bought the install kit from Lowe’s prior to installing I came across you video and I am glad I did!!! Thank you so much, the fitting I decided to go with was much easier to install plus it is legal...great video, keep them coming!! New subscriber here!

Thanks so much Jeff, I was just about to attempt the saddle being a new homeowner and this covers all the issues I thought about! Confirmed my doubts

I bought a kit from Home Depot that came with a saddle valve, and upon reading instructions I said “hell the F no”. Amazing that HD would sell something that seems so obviously terrible. Glad to see in this video my instincts were right.

Thank you! I am a handyman and never liked the idea of a saddle valve whether it's code or not. It just didn't make sense to me to make a permanent hole in a pipe. Using the valve adaptor is a way better solution!

The very first video I saw on running a ice line was for the saddle valve then I came across your video I’m so glad I didn’t stop at the saddle valve video these seem much easier and I don’t have to climb under my house thank you

Thank- you, Thank YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I’m installing a water line to the refrigerator today & just didn’t feel good about the “IV line” procedure puncturing a copper tube (I’m a doctor). The potential complications are tremendous. Kinda like placing an intraosseous line in the tibia. You want to do it right the first time but are wrought with problems if not done correctly.

Got rid of my saddle valve and went with option 2 (dual stop) - easy peasy to install after cutting the copper pipe in the kitchen sink..

Thanks great advise. Just finished the hookup with the first piece u mentioned. 2 minutes, just make sure your hoses are nicely tighten 👌.

I wish you would demonstrate actually switching out a saddle valve that is in the center of one long copper pipe rather than an easy end fitting scenario, I appreciate this video and your efforts very much I just know mine and many others are saddled in a place that requires removing of the saddle and cutting or soldering on tee fittings

Great vídeo as usual! The ice maker hook ups are problems. I was using the plastic tubing ten years no problem . New fridge 8 months in got a pinhole behind the wall👎🏼! Stainless steel hose and a brass cutoff for me😃 Greetings from NYC👍🏼🗽

You are eloquent. Your #2 solution is elegant. Thanks for your former video on 4 fixtures never to use & this high utility video on the legal options for 1st time connections of ice maker line to a cold water line.

I think there is a very simple Solution for installing saddle valve, in this video I notice at the top of the saddle valve with rubber looks ok, solution is just put a same rubber at the buttom of the saddle valve to the pipe 😁

Just found a severely corroded saddle valve on my hot water heater pipe. Rubber was compressed and hard and cracked. Had to hacksaw the bolts, never again. Good info, Thanks!

Imo the haters are mostly plumbers being pissed about regular people being able to watch how to videos like this, lowering their demand for simple jobs. Not just plumbers. At first I also would be annoyed if I were a plumber but instead of wasting time complaining I'd ridirect that time and energy to start thinking of new creative ways to create more demand for my services. Like creative cross marketing. But that's just me and my opinion. Nothing wrong with people having opinions. Great video!

I just recently removed one of these after watching this video. It may have been 30+ years old, but I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to shut it off because it was stuck open. After it was off, I found that the piercing pin did break off so I was glad it’s now gone. I used a 1/2” compression inlet with 1/4” output valve along with a soldered tee fitting.

Was about to use one of these today the i thought of how trashy this contraption is and threw it in the trash....im glad i did and thank you for the video

Just moved to Florida, new fridge coming in two days. Up north, everyone seemed to have a saddle valve, and one by one they ended up with problems. Your solutions are so easy, and not being a plumber, had no idea they existed. Thank you, I subscribed and will check out your other videos.

Here is where I am. 13 years ago I bought a refrigerator at Lowes. My house is on a crawl space and the refrigerator installer placed a saddle valve just inside the crawlspace door. He did not place the saddle valve on the main supply line but on an adjacent connecting line. Last month I replaced the refrigerator. The existing saddle valve was completely rusted. Yours truly removed it and replaced it with a new saddle valve plus a 20 ft braded supply line just like the one in your video. If I had the patience to do it, it would take a 1/2 hour to fill a glass of water and ice production is pathetic. So, what is my best solution? Ideally, I prefer to remove the saddle valve and solder in a new copper T connection. 1. What should I do about the hole created by the saddle valve? Shouldn't the new T connection be installed on the main supply line? I have no plumbing skills but my daughter says my son-in-law can solder copper pipe.

I can appreciate a lot about this video and I agree with you entirely Jeff. It would be helpful, however, to have instructions for lay individuals on how to replace these awful existing saddle valves. The reason(s) that so many of these crappy valves remain in properties is because of the plumbing work which is involved to install a proper valve. Most homeowners are too unsure of themselves (me included) to cut/sweat a 'T' for the installation of a proper valve. Jeff....howsabout a video for that?

Video quality is Next gen. Love that you film at 4k 60fps. Great colour grading too.

man, these valve methods are WAAAY better! i like the second one for dual valves

So Jeff, I'm convinced! Now, how do I remove my in-line saddle valve and repair the copper pipe that now has a hole in it?

Thank you for this video. I was researching the use of this valve before and now will spring for the adapter. Thanks much.

Jeff, Sioux Chief has a fitting called an "Add-A-Line" (part 601-G20CV) for those interested in just replacing their old saddle fitting. A bit more complicated than what you have shown, but not all fridge lines can be run from under the sink. Even if you could, you'd still have to do something with the old valve or it's still gonna sit there and continue to corrode. Sioux Chief product is simple that it has a compression fitting on each end for your main run with a 1/4" side tap for the fridge hose. All you need to do is turn off water, remover old valve, clean off about an inch of pipe on both sides of the old hole in pipe cut out a small section of the copper line where saddle valve used to be, install this new fitting where you just made the cut and then install fridge line. Easy, peasy and very professional. Just a thought. GREAT video and oh so true!

Awesome Jeff, thank you for providing the link to this video. I will now hook up my ice-maker the right way.

Well i bought tge saddle valve kit at menards. Saw some videos with people not likeing but 🤷‍♂️ eh i wasn't convinced. But after Your actually visual example though.... im out of 10$ i guess. Back to the hardware store, you sold me on the second hook up lol. Thank you for the video

I didnt want to wait for my plumber very whose busy. I considered doing this. Ill just wait. Thanks !

Man I'm glad I saw this video I just bought myself the saddle version and was just about to install it and then I saw this video!!

So glad your video popped up, the store tried to sale me that. Thanks for this information!

Wow amazingly presented information (especially the sizes since homeowners rarely know everything)!

Good topic, and good video but I have some constructive criticism: the video is a little long. Some editing could have made this video even better by getting it down to about 10 minutes long or so, from 18. Also I would rearrange the order of the subtopics: start with a shortened version of the huge problems with the saddle valve first, then go into the 3 solution in order. Just my 2c.

Excellent video!

Thanks bro. Yeah "This Old House" said the same thing about not being able to use the saddle valves lol

These are a much safer and more watertight method than a saddle valve. Ask yourself......if you were in a submarine a few hundred feet underwater would you feel happy if you looked up at the piping and saw A SADDLE VALVE.........? 🤔Or would you feel safer with correct pressure tested adaptor.......OK an extreme example.........but if an SV blows above a ceiling or in an attic thats gonna cost $$$$$’s.........WORK SAFE guys. The only place for saddle valves......😩.....throw them in the dumpster! I was an Armed Forces engineer for over 45 years.......I recommend this channel👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Very educational and easy to understand! Great video and thanks for all the links.

Your method looks more durable, the saddle valve looks questionable to me. Thanks I'll be going with the connection you recommended!!

Great thorough video and explanations. What do you suggest to replace a saddle valve that is coming off of my hot water heater to the house humidifier? Maybe you could do a video on it?

Glad I kept my comments to myself about the saddle valve

Thank you- I just learned something new. I have been using Saddle valves for over 20 years to ONLY drain pipes that supplies water to outdoor faucets. Am I in violation of the NYS code?

I have a humidifier that was hook up with one of these to my water heater pipe and it leaked so I’ve shut it down and not used it for years. Just ran into your video thanks for info.

Great video Jeff. Thanks for sharing.

I agree that saddle valves are a bad idea. I have two of them in my house, and while they haven't leaked while having them in for over a decade, I still want to replace them. What I don't agree with is the idea that "it's bad because it's against code". There's plenty of examples of things in the plumbing code that just go too far in safety. One is Air Admittance Valves. In my state they're against code. In my, and many plumbers opinions, this is silly since they're built to last 30 years (and are in fact legal in many states). So I really think you need to demonstrate more than just being against plumbing code.

Excellent informative video

The saddle valve is on the cold water supply which means its much cooler than the moist air surrounding it. This is a good source of condensation for electrolysis.

Could you please instruct what to do if a saddle valve has already been installed for an ice maker? I understand there is a hole from the saddle valve in the pipe now,. Please instruct how to remedy the situation & use one of your methods. Thanks!

i was just about to put one in for an inline air humidifier, but it... seemed chintzy to me, had a weird feeling about it. glad to know my intuitions still pretty good. i like that dual saddle valve. it solves all the problems, and honestly.. 40 bucks for a part that has independent control and no weird metal ... something something chemisty two metals rust blah blah im a tile installer and idk. regardless, 40 bucks even for piece of mind. fuckit. im going to get one.

best video on you tube! thank you for the links!

How do you remove a saddle valve? How does one deal with the hole the saddle valve left in the copper pipe? Mine is under my house

I love 1/4 turn valves, instant shut off.👀👍🏽

I'm glad I watched this. I was just about to install one. Seems like an easy fix though.. add another piece of rubber on the underside, plus galvanized or brass screws, no?

Logical explanation! I hope I can find the three way valve.

Jeff, I just got a new fridge delivered and when they were removing the old one I noticed a copper supply line was connected. I checked under my sink and noticed there was a saddle valve which I am unsure if it works or not. Prior to this, I was already considering installing the valve adapter solution you described. My question to you is, what is the best way for me to proceed? Should I leave the saddle in place, make sure it's fully closed and go the valve adapter route?

Just what I needed to see! One question tho, if I add the part under my kitchen sink, how do I repair the saddle valve? Will I, should I get a plumber for this job? Saddle valve located in the basement above a cabinet, hard to reach/repair.

Question.. What to do if there's a need for third connection? I have a filtered water system, ice maker line and a faucet that need to be connected. Would it be feasible to use both the 1st and 2nd options? Great video, and even better information!! Spend a little more for peace of mind in the long run.

great video. quality is excellent as well as the instructions

Thank you sir. Saddle valves are a lazy and flawed solution. Years ago, I installed a saddle valve that was included with a reverse osmosis water system. Started leaking immediately, which I can see now was probably the best thing that could have happened. Had to replace the pipe that now had a hole in it of course, and went to a valve that had two outlets: 3/8 and 1/4 inch. Problem solved.

Welp, our previously installed saddle valve is corroded and leaking. Just need a video of how to replace these properly. If you have a video, that would be awesome!

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I wish left foot 1 in my house cuz we removed fire refrigerator but have an ice maker with one with did how do you take care of thin line Richards Building I probably didn't know know and just put the cap what you get from the refrigerator on to it it didn't leak so I guess it's working keep up the great work and most important cheers with a beer

Love this video and your wisdom, glad I watched this before setting mine up. I’ll go with the rolls Royce!!

I like your workbench,where can I get one like it and are there bigger sizes.Your presentation is very good,helpful and educative,I hope people will understand that it is all for their benefit.

Thanks for clarifying 😊👍

I can’t seem to find the dual stop adapter anywhere online. This looks like a fantastic solution! Do you happen to have a link to the part, or could you possibly tell me how to search for it? Thank you.

I am replacing a refrigerator that has been in use for 14 yrs. The saddle valve is installed to the copper pipe which is located on the lower level, with the ice maker water line fed thru the floor behind the refrigerator. This has not been a problem, but the dealer has told me I need a shut off directly behind the refrigerator. What kind of valve do I need to install to replace the saddle valve?

How would you go about stopping/plugging the end? I recently got a new fridge and had to move the location bc of size; now my copper line has a constant drip. Trying to think of a good way to plug it. Doesn’t have a valve on it; saddle right at the water heater

Great video

just replaced a grounding strap on the water pipe bonding/ground from a electrician and plumber and inspector that missed (or overlooked or got paid off to approve) Due to dissimilar metals corroding a hole on a water pipe. Took 15 years but the damage was in the thousands. BY the way-WE did the proper splice (as an educated and continue to educate myself electrician) on the grounding strap- as 2 previous electricians did it wrong. YOU CAN ONLY USE IRREVERSIBLE COMPRESSION CONNECTORS on splicing grounding wire that bonds water pipes (bonding ground that goes back to the service panel usually) OTHER methods are using exothermic welding process. NEC 250 i.e. Burndy C-tap takes 12 ton Crimper to properly attach C-tap. I say all this because I see these bumper stickers HIRE LICENSED CONTRACTORS -doesnt mean SHI$% The DBPR in Florida is set up to take money and hand out "so called licenses for advertising" not educate and protect the consumer. The best protection is ask lots of questions, build a loyal/trusting/open communication reputation with a trades-person (unlicensed or licensed) and arm your self with factual content - start off with small projects with any new contractor or tradesperson ((I dont like saying handyman/person)) i.e.like jeffostroff videos. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6t0aMWrmZbTp2Q.html

So is a copper saddle valve an acceptable solution if you don't have tools and need to do something about a brass saddle valve, and do you need to get plastic on both sides to prevent all contact in such a case?

So I'm not getting how the ice line goes all the way from under the kitchen sink over to the fridge. Does that mean running it through the walls? Also, Can I use the dual valve on the copper pipe that sticks out of the wall behind the fridge instead? It's only like an inch off the ground tho. I have to have a cutoff valve within 6 feet of the fridge to have my new fridge/ice maker hooked up. Right now it is just a capped off copper pipe behind the fridge. (this was capped when I had a leak/flood about 15 yrs ago) What would you suggest? thx

for the double valve method is that metal also not brass, and would eventually lead to galvanic corrosion as well? if it was such a bad thing for the saddle valve wouldn't the same be true for this as well?

Great but what if your sink is too far away from the fridge? How do you tap into an existing nearby pipe with Somethig other than a saddle valve?

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