Thanks Tom. This Tom doesn’t know how to use either but I’m now more interested in the plus nut tool. Informative video.

Thanks for sharing very useful information!

Ive never used a plus nut before so this has been a good video for me. 1 big issue i would be concerned about using about using the plus nut would be the rotational torque rating as i would think you would be able to do a bolt up tighter. Obviously the pulling forces would be better on the plus nut but that would be an interesting test. When i am concerned with the rotational force i normally use a hex rivnut but i can only use these types at work as u need a hex punch or a lasered hole so they could be used.

Great video, I'm a hardware junkie, never heard of a plus nut, thanks, but I think I could rig up something to go in an air drill or any drill for that matter to set those plus nuts. Again thanks.

Why do you put the nuts in the hole first? When I do rivet nuts, I spin the nut on the mandrel, then use the tool to insert the nut in the hole. That's way faster than having to turn the mandrel by hand using the little knurled knob to thread it into the nut.

Wow! Just learned something useful. I thought river nuts is the only one in the market. I like the plus nuts.

Back around '03-'04 I worked for an auto company fitting out fleet vehicles. We used a pneumatic rivnut gun. The rivnuts we were using were the same as the rivnuts you show, but heavy duty like the plusnuts you showed. So the same shape as the rivnut, but heavy duty like the plusnut. I'm trying to work out if I can make a fitting/tool that I can put on my drill or impact driver to install rivnuts.

Very well explained, thanks. Indeed the air tool is a winner.

Excellent video for the Information!

Awesome video! Very informative!

Awesome video/info...thank you!

Thanks that was helpful. I've been trying to figure out the why in the heck I can't get a plus-nut to go in straight with the Astro tool.

Awesome explanation, thankyou

Good info. Thanks for concise no bs. Market speak.

An important consideration is the blind side clearances. The plus-nuts requires way more side clearance and depth clearance too. There are situations where the plus-nuts are just too big. When the rivnuts are properly seated and compressed, they are a robust connection. I suspect that many of the “failures” resulted from poor installation, and I know this from my own sloppy holes (not so easily avoided). Additionally, rivnuts are available in stainless steel, which should be a critical consideration for exterior installations.

Thank you very much awesome information

rivnuts were invented by the bf goodrich rubber company during ww-II as a way to install rubber de-icing boots on existing aircraft, which is why they have limited overlap on the internal sheetmetal but they do provide a very good seal, because most airplanes use their wings as fuel tanks so the rivnuts had to be as leakproof as possible. plusnuts are better for strength when you don't need a leakproof seal. if you were going to use these types of fasteners to install something on the outside of a vehicle exposed to weather, a rivnut would be better than a plusnut in that situation. you might get away with using a plusnut in an exterior application if you use a lot of sealant, but keep in mind it's an inherently leaky point of attachment you will have to monitor. plusnuts are more like a molly bolt for sheetmetal where a rivnut is more like a rivet.

Very well explained video. I want to secure some cargo drawers in the back of my car and I will definitely be using the Plus Nuts for their superior strength.

Great Video Tom, much appreciated!

Great Video Tom

Nice job Hodakaguy. Stay safe 👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻

Thaks..great information and very clear..

When I ordered grab handle from Sprinter store, they sent plus nuts and a simple bolt tool that could be used in a drill or impact driver while holding it with an open end wrench...worked great!

I'm guessing your mate is still wondering who he lent that tool too🤣Nice video, great explanation, Thanks.

Many thanks for your super helpful video. Rosie in New Zealand

thanks for the information

Excellent video! Thanks for this perfect lecture! What was the brand/model of the pneumatic tool?

I have made my own rivnut tool been using for 5 years and it works. fine but i am waiting for some Plus nuts to come to see if they will perhaps do the finished job better. I would have liked the air tool. but 205mm some bike i may not have enough room to work and may only be able to fit one nut and most i like to have three, sometimes i can use the nuts already fitted most of the them don’t match to the battery plate. Thanks for the link. REC.

Thanks! I am receiving my FIRST Riv Nut tool kit today from Amazon.I can use any cordless drill to do the same thing, there is a video showing how to do this.

The Pneumatic boy is the one for me. Thanx.

Thank you so much! Subscribed!

Great video and I learned a lot. Thanks so much sir. God bless!

Very well done

Excellent video

Used to have a Wombat. Took that 24” spark arrestor out and she had a nice crack. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Great vid. I was set on rivet nuts for a project soon. After watching your video I learned about plus nuts and will be going that route. Now to find a good gun! Thx

V helpful vid, thanks.

very cool. thanks man

Thanks!

There are also an adapter to use with cordless drill or impact driver, seem to be a good alternative for those who don't have air pump.

I found an answer in the 'plus-nut' style. They have sizes placing the compression area further back on the bulb that will work in material besides sheet metal - like 3/8" (1/2") plywood. The common rivnut is not available for thicker materials.

very well video, success

Just started to fit Push nuts, for me better than rivnut. Fitted lots rivnuts with no problems. I just wished i was working with more space to use air tool.

much appreciate

Super helpful. There's a lot of discussion online about problems with rivnuts and plusnuts. You cleared up a lot of that fog,

“RIVNUT® - The Original blind installed internally threaded rivet, was invented (patent #2,149,199) in 1936 for the purpose of attaching a rubber aircraft wing de-icer extrusion to the leading edge of the wing. The RIVNUT® riveted the aluminum wing skin to the inner aluminum spar and then accepted a mating screw to attach the rubber de-icer. RIVNUT® fastener was given a military specification of MS27130 and an aerospace standard of NAS1329 and NAS1330. Use of the RIVNUT® expanded within the military and aerospace markets, and soon became popular in general industry because of its many design and assembly advantages.”

Great vid, thanks much for the info!

Great vid! Very informative. Thank you! Combat Wombat?

Thanks man!!!

I see many comments stating that the Mandrel SOCKET HEAD CAP SCREWS must be purchased from the manufacturer. NOT SO. The screw used in the mandrel is not special. This is a common Grade 8 Imperial Socket Head Cap Screw. This can be purchased in Grade 8 or lower grades in Metric also at your local Ace Hardware store. No need to order from the Manufacturer. DO NOT USE STAINLESS MANDREL'S. Purchase the black oxide colored ones. If you break them frequently, recheck your pneumatic gun or manual tool torque settings.

Would like to see how your built went… do you have more content?

Thanks sir

That air tool is only meant for riv nuts. I just clicked the link (i need a new one for work specifically for plus nuts because the ones we have keep breaking down) and it specifically says that you aren't supposed to use it to install plus nuts. That and the mandrel is a unique part from the manufacturer, not just some bolt you can replace easily from a hardware store

Don't forget about huckbolts for heavy duty applications. They make standard & blind huckbolts. Might help.

Also with PLUS NUTS, You can add a washer to increase surface contact.

Comparing this with flowdrill. With the flowdrill once the hole is created i have to tap the hole. There is no additional fastener and no additional cost. with a flowdrill i have an option of a flat surface head. With plus nut it will always have a head sticking out.

i like the use of the PLUS NUT using the nomadic drill but my question is this could you get the same result using this set up in a drill ? by using forward and reverse you would be doing the same motions as a nomadic drill i agree you would need to adjust the power used as you would using a drill in a drywall situation

You can also get an electric drill rivnut attachment for about 50 bucks on ebay

Thanks for the demo. Will the RN1 rivnuts tool work with stainless rivnuts? mostly 10/24 for use in a tight space.

There is one caveat using the air tool though: it rotates the bolt to pull the nut in, giving the thread significant friction stress that can deform it or even flatten it out. I'd not recommend this and similar tools.

I would add pipe to both handles on the rivenut setter,just to make it easier to clamp.

What is the max thickness of metal, the plus nuts will install in?

Skeptical of the kiauro pneumatic air gun. lots of reviewers on amazon said it was not strong enough to work on stainless steel rivnuts, let alone cross nuts, even with the psi cranked all the way past 130

You did not set each and see which one can actually hold when a lot of rotational force is applied. Looks like the Rivnut might hold better because of the serrations on the barrel. Seems like they may hold torque better than four flat wings. Also noticed that when you used the pneumatic tool the PlusNut wings twisted. Most likely due to the rotational forces during compression. Would like to know if this decreases or possibly increases it's hold on the sheet metal. I ask about rotational forces because I have had Rivnuts spin when trying to remove them when they have been in for a long time.

I'm trying to possibly use these to repair a stripped out threaded hole in the sheet metal on the tailgate of my pickup. The Torx screws hold on the access panel on the tailgate. The screws are only so long.. so, the question is.. which of these two nuts brings the threads closest to the sheetmetal? Hope that question makes sense. Thanks

What is max thickness of sheet metal would riv nut handle?

Slick. 😊

Have you used a longer mandrel/ screw with the 5/16" attachment to the Kiaruo gun?

I have the same gun. We need for it to work with plus it’s but need the longer mandible/bolt. Can you tell me which one to get for 1/4 inch? The instructions for the fun say to for use with plus nuts so we’re thinking about trying something different

Was it difficult to adjust the air volume on the pneumatic tool?

I'm also doing a sprinter van and used self tapping screws for everything. Its all ripped out of the walls even light things like 10lbs. Pretty thin trash steel on this 2020 compaired to my older 2008 and 2004 self tapping screws held for 16 years, this one doesn't make 2 weeks and they all ripped out.

Pricing those plus-nuts shows them to be several times the cost of the others. Keep this in mind when planning/budgeting…

Have you ever tried the Astro plus nut adapter for an impact driver/drill? Seems like a good option at the price of the hand tool but with the performance of the pneumatic. I would have to wear my ear protection though :-D

Can u do other size nuts ie 5/16

Seems like a washer and a cordless drill would do the work of the pneumatic setter.

The plus nut works like a molly bolt, i think the rivnuts looks like it would be tougher to rotate with the grooved edge getting expanded into the inside of the hole.

FIrst time i hear about a plus nut is from this clip

What about a self clinching nut tool

Does DeWalt or Milwaukee make a plus nut gun that you don't have to have pneumatics?

Why not use a grade 8 bolt for the pneumatic tool? I'd NEVER use stainless steel for it because of the propensity for galling.

haha...you pronounced your name like "ha-da-ka" which happens to mean naked in Japanese. so now you're the naked guy. thanks for the video. just what i was looking for.

I take it that you can use the Astro or air tool with the Rivnut as well?

Hi Tom. I plan to buy an Astro pneumatic rivet nut drill adapter. Could you tell me please what size of rivet nuts you need in van? For bed probably you use plus nuts. What size of plus nuts do you need? Thanks

Could you just use a drill with a bolt/threaded rod in it? Or customize a bolt/threaded rod for an impact driver?

hello what model is the air driven plus nut tool

Where are you finding plus nuts? Can’t find any sellers

Plusnut same as Jacknut?

Interesting My problem is i very limited to working space like on a bicycle frame

Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can buy these plus nuts?

Isnt there a type of nut that doesnt need a special tool, but clamps up with the screwing in of the bolt?

The adjustment does not set volume it controls the rate/speed the tools operates.

That manual nut setter is a rip off...$20 for a 1/4-20 coupler and bolt, pretty much 4x what it would cost from the fastener dept at any hardware store. I was considering a manual way using an impact driver (as seen on some other videos) but I'm having 2nd thoughts as if it fails it will be a PITA to remove.

I'm assuming your name comes from the bikes that were around in the 70's

Most rivnuts are as strong as those plus nuts, and grab the panel just as tight, of course a short counter sunk rivnut isnt going to look strong.

Can I buy a cheaper pneumatic tool and have it work just as well ? I found one for 1/2 the cost of the one shown in this video but don’t want to waste my $ and time ? Hopefully I’ll get answer even though this video was made a year ago…

It would be nice if someone made one to work with a cordless drill.

Any vids showing your L track installation

I'm somewhat skeptical with that tool since Plus Nuts are purposedly designed to compress and BULGE extremely close to the collar in order to set in thin metal sheet (typically an van's body). This "neck" has to expand right by the collar, behind the sheet metal's back and way rearward close to it than where the bulb's slots do end. These pneumatic tools should work in thick (1/8" 1/4") metal but I doubt about the results in a typically thin gauge van's metal sheet especially with bigger sizes Plus nuts. I did try several KZfaq showcased homemade Plus-T-Cross nuts tools and NONE solved that issue no matter the manual torque or impact/electric force used to drive them. I have an Astro 1450 manual riveter which is relatively cheap and sometimes a bit of an hassle to operate but it DOES COLLAPSE THESE NUTS NECKS EASILY AND DOES'NT DO IT ONLY BY SCREWING THE BULB BACKWARD BUT MOSTLY BY PULLING/SQUISHING IT REARWARD IN ONE FLUID MOVEMENT. According to my readings, the Kiaruo may work with most Rivet nuts but only small gauge MILD steel Plus nuts (say 1/4-20 max.) ... IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME I'M WRONG, PLEASE DO. i WILL REALLY APPRECIATE! ;o)

Hi.do you ride a super rat or a wombat combat.?

Can use a Plus Nut on RivNut tool?