Just keep an eye on it at all times. As soon as you look away or go to grab your coffe, BAM, lines clogged. Really sucks especially when they need that cement ASAP.

Unclogging can be pretty hard and dirty so be careful and watch your pressure’s.

It’s a nightmare job

Keep on truckin 🤙🚛

Yep, every product and every place to unload requires different product valve settings

@melvinrexwinkle1510 so it's been almost a year, and I have unloaded about 300 bulkers in that time frame. Here is what I learned. Lime being the way it is will unload like plastic pellets and certain grains. Everything else, like sand and cement, ect, is easier to unload, easier to unplug, but definitely don't want that jet line open very much lol. If one can unload the heavy pellet like loads then you can unload anything. Lastly, the customer should have a good bag house for better unloading lol. So in summary, I am humbled and admitting how much MORE I learned in this last 11 months of doing this boring good forsaking type of hauling almost daily lol. (We haul everything here so the bulkers are only a fraction of what we pull)

I unloaded activated charcoal (ground up, or powdered charcoal, from a wood fueled electrical powerplant on Samoa Island, just off shore from Eureka, California) at a city water treatment plant in Tempe, AZ. This powdered charcoal is very light, we had some 2000 cube trailers, with those, might get 33000lbs net weight, that's all. I had learned to not open the vibrator air to pressure up the tank, only pressured up the tank with top air valve open to about 6 psi, and then open the hot line valve(the valve that either sent the air into the tank, or down to the product line and out the back thru the hose) only opened 1 notch one the valve. I'm saying by doing this would be trying to plug up the product line, all the air pushing down on top of your product, with as small amount of air going to the product line as possible. Well, when I got to the rear product valve opened, I had lost too much tank air on the third valve open, and the product line plugged. The man who overlooked the trucks in the plant was unhappy and said we can't unhook the hose and spill product. I told him that I could suck the product out of the hose but I would have to release the air from the tank, but I could do so very slowly, which would make very little black dust into the atmosphere. So it took about 20 minutes to let the tank pressure out even though it only had about 3psi. The fellow overseeing told me "now I want you to do it my way now, pressure your tank up to 10 psi and then shut down you blower and then open up your product valve all the way and finish unloading" That was enough air in the tank to unload the 4th hole and to clean out the three cones in front, all with the truck engine shut off. I saud all of this just to demonstrate that there can be very extreme differences in the density, and the flow ability, of different products. I hauled perlite from Hodgkins, IL. To Minnesota, a couple loads to a plant buildings double walled cryogenic tanks for LNG, they pulled a vacuum on the wall spacing, just like a giant thermos, and that way vacuumed the load off the trailer. They had a sight glass in their line going into the top of the tank, so I could see the product. I had met another driver who had delivered the first load in the process of filling the double walled vessel, and he said it took 14 hours to unload, so the next morning when I arrived, I told their supervisor, who said he didn't know how to do it, so I said let's get it going and I will get on top of the tank and open a lid so I could see inside the tank and when I saw the cone was about empty(and was about to suck a bunch of air) i would holler for him to close the product valve, thus not losing their vacuum, which was in a vessel that was 110feet long and 14 feet in diameter. We were unloaded in only two hours! I hauled two loads of that perlite, which is the little round balls that you might see in potting soil. If you see one someday day, inch one between your thumbnail and fore finger to break it and you'll see that it is I tiny hollow ball, made from a certain kind of sand, dropped through a torch flame that pops the sand into a popped hollow ball that is a mineral, which means that the ball is temperature proof for cryogenic tanks like liquid nitrogen at -319f or in refineries, etc up to about 2500F Good luck pulling one of them blow wagons, if you ever get stumped, well just reply and I'll try to help

@@dano8613 where do you run? Nation wide?

@melvinrexwinkle1510 I use to but I sold my truck and moved to Alaska, more money up here than anything down there

JM Chavis this bonehead, is making this way more complicated than it is.

Very true however I was the only one blowing off the trailers so didn't really have to worry about that but you are correct always open the air line and let it blow out first

yea, I would need to make a bunch of notes

Yeah me too! I'm the type that will take notes but i need to get out there and do it and get some reps in and then i will get into the groove.

Yea seriously

Not worth the low pay anyway.

This is the 1st video of a pneumatic tank I've seen. I've never operated on of these.

Yup

My thoughts to but yes very helpful indeed

Go look for Scout Truck's presentation of delivering flour for Foodliner. He's actually working it real time.

Thx!

Hahahahahahahaha I know

Hey thanks a lot for that quick rundown. I needed to hear that.

Must be a sand hauler

If for whatever reason you can’t complete unloading, and you’ve got to leave the location with a partially loaded trailer, you don’t want all the weight at the very back of the trailer. Unload from the back, first. Always.

@@elijahmoon21able it'll get ya doing that some day

I did this type of work many moons ago with a company called Foodliner. I pumped the Silo of Wonder bread now out of business, in New York and Philadelphia.

I always start with the center pocket then front and then rear and go back to the center.

Yep absolutely I've worked on some took 30 min to blow off and worked on some took 3hrs to blow off so depends on trailer and plant

Opening the top air valve, Opening a product valve without the line valve open, it happens

It happens when tank pressure is higher than line pressure. When you open product valve (the bottom of the cone) there is nothing stopping the product from moving forward in the product line up to the check valve. That's when you could get cement into the guage line.

Very true....this was a video a few years ago just kinda half ass refresher course lol

That's how I was taught. Maybe this is to speed it up a bit?

That’s the way I used to do it too 20 years ago, one at a time

The instructions on the tank tells you to open the next b4 closing the prior but when I see someone doing it it seems to always clog. But then again we haul lime and im told that if you can unload lime you can unload anything

Yes our tanks however fluctuate pressure wise some can pop off at 17 some will pop off at 20 just depends on the tank and age!!!

@@The52dodgem37 some tanks have blowed up ya know, some drivers have been killed too

Also the pressure affects the silo that’s being unloaded into. Some can only handle 10-12 lbs of pressure.

Your right. He left out the parts where you put water in the pop off valve on the trailer so it don't pop at 12 psi then put a bungie cord on the pto pump so it don't pop. Bleed gages so you can make the needles show 10psi but your really pumping 14 and a half when plant manager comes out to check to see if your pumping hot and also if you do plug drop psi to atleast 4 psi.

Facts I run on too and he lost me 😂

Shit I unload bout 16 psi done in 35 minutes depending on the silo

@@charlesroberts8803 i have never heard of putting water in the pop-off. Teach me Ole Great 1 😂 j/k but seriously

@@billyspraynone836 Water in the pop off valve on the tank will make it stick after the water drys. Seals it up. Bungie cord on pump holds valve in place. Bleeding air on guages sends a false reading if not closed all the way. Do you know how to unplug a plugged line without disconnecting the hose?

I just read this. PLEASE! Do NOT disconnect the hot air valve with the pump running. A written that is either a joke or recipe to get somone seriously injured or killed.

@@billingram6594 bullshit, tap the brake to kick off cruise to idle engine, the take off hot hose, not dangerous! Sometimes not enough air to push hose off the blower, always allow blower to cool down while disconnecting and stowing product hose, closing guage box lid, and hanging up hot hose. Per blower manufacturer recommendations.

Do you mean you select shift truck? If so yes you can. As long as you have a pto and a blower you sure can!

@@The52dodgem37 yes that’s the plan, I want to take my truck to the sand fracking business

Shut off product IMMEDIATELY. See if your pressure will clear the clog. Up to 15 psi maybe a little over. If that doesn’t clear it, snap your main pressure valve open and closed, this creates a suction and can clear the clog. You may have to play with it for a while alternating between pressuring up, and snapping that pressure relief open and closed. Bottom line, just don’t get clogged up. Aka don’t be fucking around on your phone not paying attention and letting your pressure get too high, over 15 basically. If anybody is honest, it’s the only way they ever get plugged up, by being distracted.

1 close product valve 2 close top air valve 3 close vibratory off putting all the air on the discharge line and hose. 4 open blowdown valve letting tank depressureize. 5 open a empty product valve of you have one empty. Open the rear product valve if all cones have product. If air blows up into tank from discharge line, then you know that discharge line is empty. If not then you have to go to the next product valve toward the front. May have to go all the way to the front, if it plugged when unloading the front cone. If all the cones have product it will.still work, but works better if one cone is empty. When the blower pressure relief is popping off open the product valve all the way quickly and count 1 and 2 about as fast as you can say it and close the product valve quickly. Sometimes on an empty cone you can hear the product come out of the line and going up and hitting the top of the tank and on air ride trailers it will bounce up and down even when there is product in the cone. What happens is that when the blower pops off the pressure at around 15 , 16 or 17 psi air will go into the air spaces between the particles of product, wherever the plug is in the hose or line, and when you release the pressure forward of the plug the air will rush toward the front to the open product valve and drag some product with it back into the tank. Some products like potash fertilizer that's fairly coarse you can hear it moving thru the discharge line and you can tell it takes about 2 foot out of the line and back into tank every time you open and close product valve. I know it sounds crazy, all we can do is blow air toward the hose, but it will work , you can suck that product right back out out of the line and hose and put it right back in the tank, but you have to move that product valve pretty fast, close it ,blower pops off, open it, trailer bounces up and down close the product valve. It happens about as fast as you can say it. Some products can be really expensive, consequently it can be costly to dump the hose on the ground. And sometimes can be a chemical spill on the soil or in a watershed area. So you ought to try to suck it out of the discharge hose and not dump it on the ground I have only experienced 2 reasons why I could not suck the product back into the tank. One was because there was wet product, and the other was because the silo was full and the pipe was full and air could not come into the line on the far side of the plug

yup ..I just started hauling cement and fly ash 4 days ago with no experience. today I got almost 14 hrs in just getting 2 loads from the plant and taking it back to our plant. sometimes it takes 45 minutes to blow out all the material and sometimes it's about an hour.either way I really like the job and hours!

@@somewhere-n-Texas same here took only two load to get my 14hours

Y’all drive far for the loads? We do 4/5 loads in 12 hours. The place is about 10 miles away though.

I like your analogy 😊

@@somewhere-n-Texaseasy peezy, what part of Texas

1500? 🤣🤣🤣 2100/wk reefer

You are just as incorrect as the video

@@melvinrexwinkle1510 his wording is but you need to have the product valve all the way open because all the product needs to get out without force

Always open the product valve all the way.

@@elijahmoon21able well its open but 45 degrees is when you don't want to lose pressure

Mike, you really don't use top air

mike, try 27.75 tons in 30 minutes using aerators and hot line, of course you can use top air as well. This guy's cleanout will be terrible using the method in this video! Your boss is wrong, do each hopper individually till presure is like 7 on line and same on hopper(that way you know you're empty plus you'll hear the aerators). I would say build pressure close to threshold like at least 13 if not 14.5 in hoppper than do full release on hot line and open hopper 100% and pull that hot line back to at least 3 from closed. It will hold at like 13 w/o building hoppper pressure if it does just open that hot 1 notch at a time until pressure stabilzes on hot air and hopper guage. Line guage is more important than hopper guage in my opinion. Good Luck Driver!

I don't use top air either. I can hear when the hopper is emptying, and also the pressure starts to drop. So I don't usually bang my hand on the side. After emptying each hopper I do go back and make sure they're empty. I carry 25 tonne (49000 pound) and can empty in about half an hour

I haul ammonia nitrate and that takes about an hour and a half on a good day. If it's hot and humid and the product starts to stick I have to be hitting the tanks with a mallet to get it to flow. I never worry about the time though just get it done. Anything over 3 hours is a concern though.

Yep, none of them talking about how different products behave in the tank

It happens just a note I made