Pocket port vs full port - What's the difference?

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HeadGames Motorworks

HeadGames Motorworks

Жыл бұрын

Dave shows us what HeadGames does with a pocket port and different it is compared to a full port!

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@highpsiguy4085
@highpsiguy4085 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact you aren't scared to share information. A lot of people consider certain info to be trade secrets. Which as a machinist I can understand. But a company willing to try to TEACH others will ALWAYS bring in more customers. You're establishing trust with viewers with these videos. You're also teaching at the same time. I've only been following your channel for 2 weeks. But after watching video after video, I've learned an incredible amount. Keep up the good work. And keep the videos coming. Your knowledge gained through experience speaks for itself.
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words!!
@kalyndyck315
@kalyndyck315 Жыл бұрын
These videos are what earned my trust to send my cylinder head to them. Good for business.
@highpsiguy4085
@highpsiguy4085 Жыл бұрын
@@kalyndyck315 I can understand that completely. I can't agree more. I've been a machinist for 2 decades doing everything from automotive to aerospace. The knowledge shared speaks volumes about their experience. And this isn't the kind of info you can read in a book. It comes from LOTS of trial and error
@headgames
@headgames 4 ай бұрын
@@highpsiguy4085 funny you say that. When I started this journey, I felt like people would theory but I just couldn’t do speak about anything but experiences.
@highpsiguy4085
@highpsiguy4085 4 ай бұрын
@@headgames from someone in the same "trade/profession" I could tell immediately that you were very skilled and very knowledgeable. I believe strongly that even the average customer watching your videos has the same feeling. Even without the machining background. And that speaks volumes. I'm sure there's quite a few people that come for the content and leave as a future customer. Because you build a relationship THROUGH the content you post. And that's priceless!
@mikerieck306
@mikerieck306 8 ай бұрын
I have used 90% intake, 85% exhaust seat ID for many, many years on Japanese motorcycle heads. Works very well especially with OS valves. I recommend boring the seat ID on the Serdi or something similar as all the ID's come out the same and speed up the porting process.....no need to measure, remeasure etc.
@mikeleschber1316
@mikeleschber1316 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for shating with us.
@marineyacht
@marineyacht Жыл бұрын
Another exceptional class Keep the great work 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Pennkraft-Racing
@Pennkraft-Racing Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave for another awesome video! Appreciate your willingness to share. I feel I'm old school racing a BMW m52 but curious what improvements can be made to that head? I have an old Superflow 110 flowbench that I play around with some old heads. The more I experiment the less I know lol. What I have learned is that head porting to make a performance gain is indeed a highly skilled operation. Bigger isn't necessarily better, information you often share. Even though I may have the tools and ability to do my own port work, my head will end up there at headgames! Lots of areas to spend money on a race car, it's endless. Proven results is what you guys offer, not many can do that...money well spent.
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
Ben thanks for the kid words! We don't port that head either. It really doesn't need it for what most do with it. A good valve job and a pocket port and it rocks.
@Pennkraft-Racing
@Pennkraft-Racing Жыл бұрын
@@headgames Thanks for the reply Dave, Good to know! Curious on your thoughts on the M54 head. Couldn't help but notice when I had both heads on the bench next to each other. Both the intake and exhaust ports on the M54 head are considerably smaller than the S52 heads. My application is road racing and its NA. Torque off the corners is important but so is straightaway HP and speed. Always a balance. It seems like BMW started focusing more on low end drivability (AKA torque) in the mid 90's as they first reduced the cross-sectional size of the S52 intake manifold as compared to the prior generation M50 manifold. A popular swap among us BMW S52 guys but I question the loss of mid-range torque, I'm thinking from loss of air speed. When the M54 came out, again another reduction but this time in the size of the ports. Does Head Games do anything with the M54 head with porting considering the factory port size of the S/M 52 head is much larger? I'm on the fence on what engine to build out and therefore what head to send you guys. M54 engine is aluminum and takes 40 lbs. off the front of the car however, if the engine can't be made to breathe that is another issue. It would seem that even though they made the ports smaller, the performance numbers went up. Is that velocity over volume thus supporting your direction on "bigger isn't always better? Last question, vanos fan or not? How does vanos effect air flow if at all? Love your videos Dave, like to see more BMW stuff of course but I'm probably late to the game on that one, they seem to be old school
@markmenzenski
@markmenzenski Жыл бұрын
Can we get a “Thank you for coming to my Head Talk” at the end of the videos? 😅😂
@headgames
@headgames 4 ай бұрын
Next vid I do!
@7tune_Ph
@7tune_Ph 10 ай бұрын
Hey chief thank you ❤️❤️
@JohnB-2021
@JohnB-2021 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have to say you remind me of Vincent D’Onofrio except you're better looking.
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
thanks sugar!
@khemrajhsamaroo3671
@khemrajhsamaroo3671 Жыл бұрын
When resizing the throat area do you have to take off material from the valve seat itself as well ? 4G63 head. great content by the way...!
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
Not with the grinder but yes. We machine that area. Don't try to make the area under the seat that a lot of 4G heads have that is deeper than the rest blend in. You will make it too big.
@khemrajhsamaroo3671
@khemrajhsamaroo3671 Жыл бұрын
@@headgames I've seen some where the casting meets the seat are actually bigger, in that case would I need to blend the seat to the port ?
@trxtech3010
@trxtech3010 Жыл бұрын
haha I remember working at Racers Edge i was the Claying Guy and guide grinding or guide removing guy. I also id the motor cycle engine biulds and such. It was a fun job!
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
That sounds terrible but cool you liked it! Bret is good people too.
@trxtech3010
@trxtech3010 Жыл бұрын
@@headgames haha Yes Bret is a cool guy. I fugured you knew him lol
@marvinreyes6270
@marvinreyes6270 Жыл бұрын
Hi can you give advice my b20b i will put vtec head b16a but iwant to make polish the head
@Sluganaught666
@Sluganaught666 Жыл бұрын
If you're not replacing the guides do you still remove the guide to port or knock it down out the way then back when finished?
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
We are always replacing the guide when we are porting. But, certainly you can knock them back out of the way if you don’t want to replace.
@CJ5EVOLUTION
@CJ5EVOLUTION Жыл бұрын
I have a question regarding Import cylinder heads, are the 1mm oversize really worth the hassle and cost, what are the Dyno gains from it?
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
A lot of our videos touch on this. There is no real hassle, because if you are doing a valve job it is just setting the cutter to a different diameter. The issue is almost every head we have tested it does flow better to do +1 but only after 9mm of lift. And under that lift, the stock size valve destroys the +1. So the area under the curve is much better for the stock size valve. Same thing happens on the car.
@independentassesor2630
@independentassesor2630 6 ай бұрын
Hi Head Science, love your video's and have found them extremely helpful If I have 1/2 head studs and need a valve job, will my heads need to be bolted down to replicate the distortion? I was told by someone that if i have a valvejob done the usual way , i may have valves that dont seal properly once i bolt my heads down because of this. Really appreciate your advice
@headgames
@headgames 6 ай бұрын
Don’t believe that hogwash. You wouldn’t be able to replicate the same block, same sleeve in a machine. Some shops are torquing the heads to a plate for the valve job but everyone would have to if what those overthinking window lickers were correct. They are also the guys who leak the engine down before start up. Like there’s an actual leak down standard for that. Great question! I think it’s a video idea
@independentassesor2630
@independentassesor2630 6 ай бұрын
@@headgames Thankyou so much for clearing this up for me. Watching your video's has already cleared up so many misconceptions for me. Like the video about going larger in the valves. The great thing is that you explained why. Really appreciate your help 🙏
@RAWRMotorsports
@RAWRMotorsports Жыл бұрын
Yeah i should have got a valvejob done 😢after porting my LS heads ... planning upgrades in the future .. another set of trick heads with the works , good valves good valvejob , hand ported titanium retainers etc etc
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
you don't want to valve job the TFS heads. That valve job is tough to beat, and easily hurts CFM if you do. There is a ridge at the bottom of the intake seat that will kill airflow if you touch it.
@RAWRMotorsports
@RAWRMotorsports Жыл бұрын
@HeadGames Motorworks not trick flow just tricked out stock heads 😎
@CP110
@CP110 Жыл бұрын
In your experience what oem head castings have the most core shift?
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
4G63 followed by 2JZ
@MaXpeedingRods_Coop
@MaXpeedingRods_Coop Жыл бұрын
cool , how we could sponsor ?
@albertaco24
@albertaco24 Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I have a small compressor and I can't buy an air die grinder because it would be charging air all the time, looking for an electric die grinder, would you recommend the Makita G0603, can sand cartridge rolls be used in it? Or would this get very hot? I need to do some light porting with power tools at home. greetings and excellent channel my congratulations❤😊
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
The electric grinder sucks to sand with. I’ve tried it, easy way to bend the mandrel. No easy way out of that for you.
@tomislavlulic9330
@tomislavlulic9330 8 ай бұрын
Dave if you did a full port job on 2jz head but used stock valves , would there be any flow gains ?
@headgames
@headgames 8 ай бұрын
I would never use a stock valve and a ported head. Stock size, but not stock valve.
@tomislavlulic9330
@tomislavlulic9330 8 ай бұрын
@headgames I'm guessing because material used in aftermarket stock sized valves are of better quality? Thanks for reply BTW
@Venom2U
@Venom2U Жыл бұрын
Do you have a full port for the B58? Web site only shows pocket. Ty
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
We are currently developing a b58 full port. Will be available in 3 months.
@Booyaabuilt
@Booyaabuilt Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on how to remove and install of valve guides i had a shop destroy my cylinder head due improper install it bleed oil from them ramming the guides in
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
that is just measuring the guide that comes out and measuring the ones that goes in. We can do this! People don't measure, including the manufactures on this deal. Thanks for the input!!
@billharriss4463
@billharriss4463 2 ай бұрын
approx cost of full port job on 1UZ toyota heads?
@headgames
@headgames 2 ай бұрын
Sorry we don’t have a full port for the 1UZ
@birdman0607
@birdman0607 Жыл бұрын
You guys need a sr20det or vet some headgames love🎉🎉
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
We don’t work on them anymore. You can look up articles on ones we did many years ago for Modified Magazine and Import Tuner.
@rolandotillit2867
@rolandotillit2867 Жыл бұрын
The CNC doesn't know that cast heads have manufacturing differences. Now if you started with a billet CNC head, then you'd get repeatable CNC results.
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@VR4OZ
@VR4OZ 6 ай бұрын
Thats obvious
@dennisrobinson8008
@dennisrobinson8008 4 ай бұрын
Can you port Toyota 1mz/3mz heads?
@headgames
@headgames 4 ай бұрын
Sorry not something we work on. I’ve actually never heard of either one before.
@dennisrobinson8008
@dennisrobinson8008 4 ай бұрын
The head is in their Camry/Lexus ES300/330 from 97-2004. Its similar design to 2jz, but flows more on the intake unported. How about how large of intake valves can you install on 2jz?@@headgames
@headgames
@headgames 4 ай бұрын
@@dennisrobinson8008 oh we definitely wouldn’t see any heads from that application for performance. I’ve seen guys do a +2 valve on the 2jz but we don’t do that. A oversized valve is not needed under 2000whp on a 2jz.
@82_KID
@82_KID Жыл бұрын
I'm in "Trenton" giving plasma... NJ IN THE HOUSE!!! My Subaru has droning noises I kind of wonder what's going on.. How important to have 4 evenly matched tires on a Subaru?
@headgames
@headgames Жыл бұрын
we do cylinder heads not tires
@82_KID
@82_KID Жыл бұрын
@@headgames Mine stalled on the road, doesn't appear to want to restart
@TDT0188
@TDT0188 Жыл бұрын
​@@82_KID part it out
@82_KID
@82_KID Жыл бұрын
@@TDT0188 it was a loose wire on the starter
@82_KID
@82_KID Жыл бұрын
I have some L25 heads.... wanna check them out maybe for a video? They were supposedly reconditioned and sold from a Subaru dealer....Dealer.... @HeadGames Motorworks
@ICTPerformance268
@ICTPerformance268 Жыл бұрын
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