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@@okenan day 1000*

It was but he double clicked and had another ancient orb in his stash so he rolled over it. Kappa

The ultimate tease. Did he get the mageblood?

There is multiple downsides to do the lottery atm. From my mediocre sample size (tested on 1000 harbingers with single shard type and then 10000 shard drops without lottery scarab, showing all shards of course), rarity of shards increased very slightly, but the time it would take you to see a single fracture proc is increased from avg 5 maps to ~70. Even worse that without lottery scarab you would just run another 3 harbingers, which makes average outcome per map even better, and then there is a bug or inefficient order of operations about harbinger nodes: 100% chance to drop an additional stack of currency from the tree nodes a) does not apply to big harbingers at all, and b) does not get converted into a single currency type via scarab. That means when you fishing for dophamine, not only you see nothing on your screen and sometimes you see shit ton of clicking for ancient/annulment at once (which is also less healthy that picking up 0-5 shards per harby imo), but there is also a way to fuck up your payoff: you have 25% chance that fracturing shards would roll on a small harbinger (because 75% of your harbingers are big) and thats already like 2 orbs instead of 5+, but then it could also roll on that extra shard stack (which actually happened in my tests), absolutely destroying your motivation to keep going after seeing two fracturing shard stacks (they do double by other scarab still) in 70 maps (or more if you got unlucky on that as well). I did get a proper big harbinger drop too, but it didn't feel as good as it would if I just ran them normally and get consistent drops. Also assumed values per map were in favor of doing non-lottery as well, but it might be low enough data size. However if it is not noticeable at 1k harbingers and you still go down in terms of outcomes (compared to regular setup), then maybe its not worth doing, at least for me:) As a side note, chance to get a full orb seems to be around 6%, transmutes mixed the data up to 7% but i suspect they just dropped 20 stacks from big harbies sometimes.

These videos are a really cool resource, but if someone looks up "harbringer farming" it wont show up with this title or hashtags lol (ideally people find your channel regardless, great content)

@@praetorianmk-ii4522 yeah imma need a tldr on that essay

I met 3 Harbs who dropped fractured in 2 maps, so its 50 div just in couple minutes sometimes.

@@tenkid840901 tldr is do +3 harbi instead of lottery scarab unless you're fishing for a mirror, as it is not worth it in range of hundreds of maps, only thousands.

Either empy would lose more or gain more, because scarabs would cost way more than 1c ish per each type of scarab. Gamba good

@@Evil_Arthasno

Yes@@txivneebswafflesandshroom

Not much better unfortunately considering he only got a single exalt shard pop in 50 maps. You'd assume div shard to be as rare if not more rare.

@@TankSenior i'd actually assume exalt shard would be changed to divine shard. im surprised that didn't happen when they did the exalt/div swap

My understanding is that map quant and rarity affect drops, but player quant rarity doesn't

@@AquaticSkipperPlayers quant is important too - u can check video from mf academy - they tested this

I average 5 fracturing orbs per drop, and have made tons of divs from annuls. Ancient orbs were valuable once, but was using a few hundred last night and hit a HH, fuckin 6 divs. What a league.

@@AquaticSkipper No, nothing affects the drops from Harbies, aside from the Scarabs and your Atlas tree. I actually thought the same as you, until I tried a few white t16s and realized that the drops are exactly the same.

@@GrimnirLaguz28 this is correct, i've been doing harbinger for like 4-5 leagues, even tried juicing with eater side altar for quan/rarity but still 3-4 fracturing shards everytime it drops

thanks didn't think of that

is there a POB that gives monsters your action speed? XD

I was oddly lucky, I ran 100 strands and got 18 fracturing orbs

@@kamex4k im @ 350 dunes and my 3 fracture hits have been on lantern or un-upgraded harbs and given me 2-4 shards :(

Shit strat

That scarab also makes rarer shards more common, so on average it's higher returns when using it.

any tips? certain belts to start with? locations to do it at? lol i need all the karma! im like 3k deep and nothing!

I was wondering about this. Maybe the “chance to drop an extra stack of currency shards” on the tree is independent from the conversion?

@ethanlarge3572 hmm maybe so, definitely some fishy stuff going on. It's happened both times on my fracturing drops so it's painful whatever it is

perhaps because the harby wasn't a harby boss, that affects the amount of dropped shards a lot

I did a literally alch and go strat, just to test it out, got 7 divines per hour with an MF char, so maybe 5-6 without. The strat was about farming scarabs exclusively. Given how cheap some scarabs are and how easy is to set them up (just buy in bulk 4), it's def not worth it. The new alch and go is using cheap scarabs imo, and if one is repeated even better. Scarabs are so powerful now.

Not sure i understand, i use 4 scarabs every map in every strat, you can’t use 5 scarabs. The cost of the scarabs matter, why would i count the number of scarabs instead of how much they cost?

@@Empyriangaming They meant the amount of scarabs dropped

@@Empyriangaming I think they mean number of scarabs dropped from the maps in total, which would normalise any outliers like the curations etc

@@deciever99 I see. Well that’s a little late for that :D

The fun aspect is important

@@Empyriangaming big true :D

Shit strat

The name of the Atlas Passive Tree. Multiple Atlas Passive Trees, and the ability to rename them, is new this league.

@@circuitousprime is it free or mtx?

@@ruhzku Free, extra trees are unlocked at 50 and 100 atlas bonus

ya but imagine you drop a mirror shard and then the regret comes in like oof if used that scarab i could have been a mirror

@@xdgamer100 if that happened you just know the game would have picked transmutes for you instead

They don’t just read and shit

I never used singular focus in these strats

@@Empyriangaming oh damn well it was just a guess since i saw that on reddit earlier. harby might drop more maps then.

Which one do you replace for the normal one?

@@LaggySkills the last one like empy said. Doubling fragments is okay but having 3 extra slot machine rolls is much better down the line.

Doesn't the one scarab that make all shards dropped the same type limit the drop pool even more? I was thinking of dropping that one out for +3 harb

@@leonardokrugel6363 that one is the backbone of every harbinger strat though. it also gives rarer currency types so i dont think so.

It's not "way better", you have 30% less harbies, but instead you get 100% more currency. Specially when fishing for mirror shards, you won't get it twice, so you better to have them duplicated.

Tip: spam z and scrollwheel-> left click rebound moving your mouse up and down, it’s twice as fast as the method you suggested.

@@Empyriangaming ok then... You get a divine

can't confirm. 1,000 maps completed, no mirror/shards.

No need to be consistent when you can just be lucky.

90% of poe players give up before they hit big

I hit 28 mirror shards in 50 maps, I've been farming Harbis for about over 40 maps more but not fracturing explosion yet

I'm a content creator, not a spreadsheet maker sorry :D

No alch and go is dead, scarabs are pretty low hanging fruit though theres many combinations that are very cheap and easy to buy in bulk you spend like 5 minutes buying your scarabs then you do your strategy for a week straight, trying to do just plain alch and go in this new scarab world is just bad unfortunately.

Harvest with a keystone Heist contracts farming

You should look up thyworms videos, he has a video on this strat in ssf

You could always try out Unwavering vision + Thorough Exploration + invasive adversaries + torment + beyond + shrines or Ritual + Destructive play, for hard content but potentially very profitable.

Cheers guys will check it out.!:)

If we had 8 scarab slots maybe

Can you share you tree?

@@MrNanosTube Basically just all harvest, harbinger, exarch, and scarab wheels. Omit the scarab 100% more likely nodes in the middle, and take Harvest rotation keystone and take reduce chance for yellow juice. Use scarab the way Empy does it (all 4 harbinger scarab, 1 of each type) and use harbinger map craft. Run maps that give easy access to the boss (crimson temple, park, dunes. I use crimson temple), kill the boss, clear the map, then access harvest and make sure tha last crop or 2 that you choose is yellow crop. Harvest will at least give back the 6c that you pay for map+harbinger (500+ yellow juice, up to 3k if you're lucky), and the rest that comes from the map will be your profit.

Some random scarab chance

Engineering Orb

ya but alcing them is good because more quant rarerity drops other things and t17s

He is just trying this out, scans more stuff than exilence, but interfaace is scuffed

I mention this in the video.

So just do bstrayal or ritual lol

@@matthewalvarez6884 I am doing ritual together with Harbinger

It was bad.

They arent

Agreed, that’s why i just included it as a second calculation

I would agree if he were doing a more thorough statistical analysis and providing data on things like median and mode that naturally exclude outliers, but since he only used the mean, it does make sense to give the final results both with and without outliers included. It’s hard to do more than just the mean for this type of thing.

u want beyond to have more harbis in the map not bc of the bosses u are trolling for picking the keystone

@@franciscoamaral103 No you are wrong, if you want the mirror you put a map kill the harvis and go next by adding beyond with the Keystone you are spawning mobs that slows down your map farming

Not planning to do abyss. Not a fan of

Spam scroll wheel zooms in and out :)

Incorrect, that way is slower. I showed it on stream but forgot to clip it so didnt make it in the video.

@@Nightcodexyou can unbind that. I did a long time ago.

Limiting factor is scarab for only 1 type of shard drops, i remember i was in 1 map, and i got fracturing shard drop 2 times, and it was regular map, no harbinger points on atlas, it was from league mechanic. Then i made tree for harbingers because i thought fracture shards drop often, and it will even more with points on passive. I got trolled and not a single fracture shard in 5 maps. Yes its not huge sample but still, drop rate should be better.

@@Dominik40301 No it shouldn't to be honest, 5 maps is a ridiculous number, it's basically nothing. You can't expect to get relevant drops.

@@herme4 if you dont get relevant drops in 5 maps at least to cover the expenses from mechanic, its not worth farming, its complete waste of times. 5 maps, around 30 harbingers and not a single fracture shard stack? Go ahead then.

@@Dominik40301 That's like saying Ritual is worthless because it's possible to go 5 maps with 0 divs in the shrine, but I got 2 maps in a row with a stack of 10 divines that I grabbed. It works when it works and it doesn't when it doesn't. 5 maps isn't enough to tell if it's worthwhile or not. That's why Empy does 50.

@@himi6536 ive done Ritual most of the league and in 5 maps i always return investment, more than return, not to mention many fractured jewels and other items sold for 7 div or more, even bows with tier 1 good mod, often i got raw divines, 5 divine Brother card, stack of 5 divines etc. Omen of ameliation for 75% exp prevention is offered so often that itself pays for at least 3-4 maps -50c

And chaos and harbinger orbs and whatever else they dropped (like a few t17 maps)

@@Empyriangaming wow you read my comment :) but even t17 is more likely is a lucky drop...if every map at least 2 harbingers didnt drop chaos shards or better it's actually money loss until you hit something big

If u stand in the portals the spawn faster

I disagree. I’d rather win big when the good drops happen than have 3 more harbies per map.

How many maps? I did 600 no mirror. I'm estimating you'd need 6000 maps to get a mirror shard explosion based on previous harb strats lol

he’s doing it on stream right now

that just shows that as long as you are mapping you will generate a decent amount of profit, which is really good. also harbingers have a lot of rare mobs and they will drop good items. last league i dropped a t1 fractured dot multi amulet from harbinger which sold for a decent amount.

But it would also add another minute or so per map, because of those +3 harbies. Still facts nonetheless

someone said in comments that if you have increased action speed for maps it affects the harbies

Idk. this is map league. Non-map content should be for later.

you probably farmed more than mirror without dropping shards lol

@@Girodii 1500 Maps ;) but i got Mageblood so its fine :)

@@jaronmau7401 getting mb/hh/mirror as a solo is better than most of the feeling you can get in this game probablybeyond the amount of currency they represent

thats bc its not winged , its ur fault i u are giving it a rarety that doenst exist anymore LOL

@@franciscoamaral103 my man, there are wings. on the scarab. I understand it doesn't say Winged Scarab anymore, but that's the winged scarab's icon in the inventory my guy.