Point control method and techniques with paper clips

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Victon, Banbury, Towcester and Northampton

7 жыл бұрын

Some of the methods I use for my point linkages

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@martinsims1273 2 жыл бұрын

This is very good/very neat, thank you. I've been railway moddeling for many years, but have never come across this idea before.

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@donaldshroyer8633 2 жыл бұрын

I've used this idea to manually control turnouts on my N scale layout. However, I use similar diameter spring wire, rather than paper clips, which I think are too malleable to last in this application. I'm surprised the idea hasn't become much more popular since it seems so much more efficient than the usual flop back and forth approach.

@richarddrum9970 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve used the spring wire also, works like a champ and cheaper than a tortoise to purchase and operate. Throwing switches during operating session is more realistic as well.

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

I like the paperclips, I have not had one break yet.

@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922 2 жыл бұрын

Very nicely done! Best solutions are from a workshop...

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Yes, thanks

@johnbeck7019 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea thanks for sharing and video

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Hal-Zuzzu_Model_Railway 3 жыл бұрын

Love it :)

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@dylansheppardmymodelrailway 2 жыл бұрын

First time subscriber just found your channel nice to meet you 👍👍👍

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for coming

@damiangretka 3 жыл бұрын

świetne rozwiązanie.

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@grahamsibbert2412 19 күн бұрын

Hello I can see what you are doing here, it’s looks quite good, but I have a question. The paper clip section going into the points bar is slightly higher than the imitation rail to sleeper securing bolts, will your trains mis this? I am a novice, big time. I have recently started this hobby and bought the Hornby Flying Scotsman track set. I had to bu6 extra track to make a reasonable set up which was expected. However, I found that any trackside object, be it scenic plants or even track ballast that is as close to the rail as your paper clip, at at the same height, my train hits it and derails, there is a little imitation ‘Thingy’ sticking out from the bottom of the train just below and behind the front buffers. I don’t want to cut it off, but I have seen a few less than complimentary remarks about the Flying Scotsman on small scale set ups.

@patrickwalker6039 18 күн бұрын

All my paperclip linkages fit into the throw bar OUTSIDE the track and they are well below the top of the rail. If they were higher than the top of the rail they may foul a low hanging part of the train but being below the level of the rail top, and outside the track, nothing will touch them. I recognise that the perfectionist will suggest a brass tube to enclose the rotating paperclip, however I have yet to find fault with any of my linkages and with a touch of black paint, or a felt tip pen, they only show up under close scrutiny. I also mention that I have not yet had to replace any paperclips due to breakage. I have 70 points, all motorised with different types of motor, and all of them utilise the linkage as shown in my video. Good luck with your train set. I point out from experience, that the most critical part of track laying is to get it ALL flat and level.

@grahamsibbert2412 18 күн бұрын

@@patrickwalker6039 Hello. It reads like I criticised you, I’m sorry because I had no intention of doing that. I commented on the possibility of the train fouling your clips purely because of the problems I’m having with my set up. Yes you are absolutely correct in that track laying is imperative to the set up. I have now taken on board all I have been told and have read. And have relaid my track for the third time. I still have trouble with the side to side clearance of my Flying Scotsman train engine. It has a 2mm side movement at each wheel causing the front to swing out just over half a track wide. I can live with this by altering my scenery but have discovered the problem causing it to jump off or short out going over the points on a right hand curve. The middle axle has no side to side movement and the gap between wheels is less than both front and rear wheels. The left hand wheel does not touch the rail where the right hand wheel does. Again sorry if I annoyed you, it wasn’t intended.

@patrickwalker6039 18 күн бұрын

Hi Graham. No, I am sorry if you got the impression I was defensive. I enjoy working with details and sometimes miss any other part of communication. I take it you are dealing with OO scale? Is the "jumping off the track" the pony truck or the main drive wheels? You can contact me direct patrickwalkertrains@gmail.com

@paredding 3 жыл бұрын

Same principle as Fulgurex motors Patrick and it's a very fiddly business (ask me how I know). Key factors are the drilled hole needs to be as perfect to the vertical as possible and FX use brass tubes for the hole inside which the rod runs to minimise the rod movement. The FX motors are rack and pinion so the rod swing needs to be in keeping with the point blade swing radius. Then you have the rod length (under baseboard) to match the point motor (its 20mm) and bend the arms at 90 deg like you have to clip into the Fx motor drive bar. Rather that follow the Fx instructions, its actually easier to pack the motor at 20mm away from the board and make two 90 deg bends in the wire rather than guessing the length and cutting the rod as there is no going back. Sharp 90 bends at each point where it passes through the board are critical. Like I said, its very fiddly, so have now replaced many with Cobalts but TBH, the installation wasnt that much easier (screwing up into the baseboard a particular PITA. Cheers BTW - I tried both installs alongside the track like you, and in the centre of the rail and the latter works better, though I have no idea why. Addendum. Here is a link to a pic I posted in RMweb (polystyrene base pic). www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/2943-fulgurex-motorpoint-travel/

@patrickwalker6039 Жыл бұрын

I was interested in the engineering viewpoint of managing the linkages but I just bend paperclips to adjust leverage and throw and so far it has worked well for me.