Yep. The music, the dialogue, the acting, it's all perfect. I fucking love this scene and wish it wasn't buried in a buggy video game that most people have abandoned. It damn near redeems a game full of flaws, just like it damn near redeems the soul of a man who had to die before he could feel remorse.

what song it is?

@@kamilawons8964 temperance ending theme

@@kamilawons8964 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oqddpMliy9ermXk.html&ab_channel=DE4AL7

yet so many crying 8 yo kids that are unable to understand those emotions about how game is bad for them

This and the quest where V and Judy are swimming through Laguna Bend. Two of the most atmospheric moments in the game.

100%, my favorite moment in the game.

I totally agree with that, bro. I cryed first time saw that... And after that. Its so strong bound, so deep emotion. Its amasing story and amasing scene

Agreed. 100%. Thinking about this honestly and actually helped me with some tougher times in my life.

100%. It's the part that hit me the most I'd say. My Dad died in service, his body never made it home so during this game I kind of got immersed in Vs dialogue. What would I say?..love this. Johnny silverhand. A character, a friend. I served and when my son played this recently I laughed at him, and I was estranged from him. It was wrong. We shared a whisky, a few laughs, i never had his first beer with him. Wasnt good enough to be around at the time and his mom hated me. he's a mechanic now and thanks to this particular scene, it helped us bond albeit in a game. I'm not good at voicing feelings I'm old, a square but we laughed a lot and he opened up about being a lonely kid and i opened up about feeling unfit to be his Dad. I got to be a father for the first time and help him through a struggle. This one scene helped us both. I love my son, he's a good man a better man than I'd ever be. And one day I hope he tells his kids, my grandkids, that he's made it. I'll work everyday until my dying breath to set his world up. I love you son. One day you'll see this.

G, I almost burst into tears during this exchange during my first run of the game. I think CP2077 hit the mark when it came to interpersonal relationships in game because i definitely started off despising Johnny and just wanting him to piss off, to seeing him as a form of moral tether and eventually even a ride and literally die friend.

well I think that V can, I mean he does push you in the beginning of the game

Yeah… Just did that dialogue. Chills, he was open to me or anyone for the first time.

Exactly! Dont give a shit about Fem-V or Male-V.... He REALY derserves a Hug here.

We all live and die alone inside our heads. The brain is easily fooled into feeling empathy, even for people that don't exist. It's a part of our humanity.

2:15 that's what gets me every time. I only saw it in vids cuz I'd never be so harsh with him, but DAMN...

@@syrion_n2579 I got this ending sheerly by accident in my first run, i didn't speak to him that way because i still hated him, but because while we'd mended a lot of emotional wounds he still needed to know how badly he fucked up during both his first and second chances at life. He originally intended to usurp V's mind, kill them and move on. He constantly pressured us to make the choices he'd make and start fucking with your head if you didn't comply. While he evidently changed by the point of this conversation, it seemed to me his narcissism still had some part to play in the heart to heart, especially considering that this mission is also the prereq to the normal Rogue ending and he constantly pressures you during the ending to get Rogue to go along with his plans again. However if you check him on his previous behavior as the secret ending requirements show, that becomes far less appealing of an idea to him, putting his friends in danger AGAIN just to save V and stick it to Arasaka.

@@GameBang666 I think the Panam Ending is the best. You live happily with Panam and he gets a happy ending with Alt, to finally rest.

Me too. He opened up with me, like a child with his father. Sad, melancholic, scared and nostalgic; and I was with him when that happened, supporting him.

The end with Panam is symbolic for this, he can finally rest knowing that he did things right at the end, and he will be able to spend eternity with Alt. As Rogue said, Johnny was like a big boy, but he finally opened up with a person and showed sadness, melancholy, nostalgia and worry... And we were there to support him, like his friend.

Not in game lore but the board game its based on, because they're cannon together. They didn't leave a marker, because they lied about his body. It was smuggled to New Mexico by some Edgerunners in a Nuke case to a superfan

@@dutchvanderlinde2002 smasher collected the body from the fan, its how johnny's car was obtained too

happy endings are fine and dandy but this game and genre is mostly tragedy and tragedies dont often have the happy endings or conclusions that can ever truly be resolved. As johnny did say happy endings for folks like us? wrong city wrong people. The real question should be how do you wanna be remembered after you die? alone forgotten and surrounded by enemies? or loved and appreciated cherishing your final moments with friends and family things that should matter to you. All of night city takes everything from you including your life. In the end the one thing you do have some semblance of control over is how your death plays out. David Martinez, Maine, Dorio, Rebecca, so many edgerunners die pointless tragic deaths. Don't forget johnny died HATED by his friends thats what makes this one truly tragic scene playout heartwrenching. Do you live in night city to become a legend or leave it behind to live for yourself? Die young with a big name or die forgotten with nothing to your name? its a tough decision and most of the time people don't like tragedies sadly though reality is more tragic then happy. Not everybody gets happy endings.

I think slapping johnny in this scene is what a true friend would have done anyways, a good friend to the rocker dude would be one of the few people that wouldn't take johnnys shit and actually tell him the truth. Kerry couldn't even do that.

​@agure4061 A true friend is at your side through thick and thin, but is also the first person to call you a fucking idiot when you lose your way.

Johnny is not only a veteran, he's also a deserter. There's one great bit of his lore in which his former label finds out he is a deserter when he's at the top of his game and is thinking of leaving the label and signing a new contract, so they threaten him with giving this knowledge to the public. Johnny gets on top of things and decides that if the public is gonna hear about who he truly was during the war, it should be from him, so he writes a song about the fucked up shit he saw during the war. From that song, his popularity got boosted even further, he broke with the label and formed the Silverhand Label

@@KalilIllinois Album. It was an entire album - SINS of Your Brothers" - about the war he was in and it actually helped change the public's view of deserters. Because of course Corpos had been lying through their teeth about deserters being horrible, unpatriotic people and cowards and had conveniently left out the horrors those people had gone through that'd made them desert in the first place.

This comment thread is amazing. I honestly didn't finish my playthrough because i've just been exploring night city and don't want it to end yet...so learning about this stuff is fascinating thanks yall.

You’re goddamn right. It’s the story man. See, people play games for the gameplay, obviously. This games bugs, they put a *lot* of people off. It was like AC Unity, or No Mans Sky. The bandwagoners didn’t even touch it, because the state of said games at launch. Now, if you got past that, all you will see is a great story, and the games potential. That’s what hooked *me* in, personally. I’m just glad Edgerunners came out. Gave this game a second chance.

@@CokeJimbo truly, I think the fact that I played AC Unity years later knowing how bad it was at launch and how much better it is now helped. I love Unity and it gave me hope that one day Cyberpunk would reach that, God I’m so happy about Edgerunners

@@CokeJimbo cause now we get a sequel!

@@lykosvon9142 I really hope Edgerunners gets a sequel. I spend 200+ playing cyberpunk within the first month of release. I played the fuck out of the game. I love this world they made.

@@CokeJimbo I think it def will, but the sequel will be extremely different

Who needs friends anyway better be alone than be surrounded by people who mocks you and underestimate you

@@mohammedyassine9263 sounds like you've only ever had shitty friends

Go gym. Heavy circles be your friend

You’re not alone in this feeling. Hope things get better for you, buddy.

Hope you're doing okay pal, despite this being 8 months before... Things are rough. They always will be. But the shit you fight for always has that glimmer of greatness. If you get it, amazing - if not, then why not try for the next one? It's exhausting, I know. But don't ever give up, because that's what we do - we keep going. Whether to spite people, or inspire. Fucking go for it my man.

@@agentmoron747 What's so special about keanu reeves...? Are you okay man?

@@agentmoron747 never said I was, brother. You just took it really seriously for no reason. Also kind of accused me of worshipping him for some reason too.

The way I see it, thats the vibe of the game my friend. You chose weather or not to be as zealous as Jhonny but with all the materialism and sexualising everything it is the dystopian future. Jhonny represents antiestablishmentarianism.

I wouldn't say Johnny is a good guy, the bomb he planted didn't just blow up a building or kill evil corpos. However in the grand scheme of things he's more right than any corpos.

Literally the only time I ever told him no was when he wanted to smoke. I hate smoking. Every other time I was like "you hate corpos? Me too", "you don't trust this guy? Me neither", and "you wanna shove a shotgun up this dude's arse and pull the trigger? I'm already loading the gun". So it was a bit weird when the game and other characters made out like V was losing himself, cuz with my V there wasn't a major personality change.

Yeah fr!! V sounds like they really appreciate and respects Johnny when they say “the guy who saved me life” but then becomes so defensive/insulted when Johnny is opening too. It’s odd, it may would have worked if the pacing of the conversation would have reversed. V saying I don’t trust you but then when they gives him an opportunity “the guy who saved my life” as a interior redemption

Well because V cannonicaly for that ending supposed to be pissed off that Johnny told him he only speaks with Rogue he got beat up enjoyed party life, drinked alot smoked and gave him tatoo.

The only part that unlocks the secret ending is telling him he’s already fucked up your trust. What you say beforehand doesn’t matter, the uploader just picked it the option for the gravestone that flowed least well into it. And for what it’s worth, I think it still sorta works. Johnny can be both the guy who saved your life and someone who has abused your trust.

Yeah. The Panam ending is the best because he can finally rest happy, knowing he did the things right at the end.

A bit anticlimactic though if you die during the mission, so take Johnny seriously when he says to bring your best iron, and maybe grind a little 😅

@@xTwilightWolvesx This is true. Can be a tough fight. Health keeps dropping and enemies do a lot more damage.

This is part of the step to unlock the option don't fear the reaper ending.

can't forget jackie, rebecca kiwi, maine, and david

@@Heyo724 Mama Welles, viktor, misty, panam and the aldecadoes

@@charliewilson9884 fax 😤

Been saying, if they waited and released Cyberpunk and edgerunners at the same time, people would've lost their shit and the game would've sold like crack in the '80s.... Trigger clearly been working on edgerunners for a while before they released it on Netflix.

I know right? Human body has a _ton_ of nutrients that should be returned to the Earth so burying people in cement is awful. Also his roboarm had a lot of rare earth minerals that should've been recycled. Sad.

It’s Johnny’s personality. He doesn’t trust people who are too friendly. You need to be just enough of an asshole that he thinks you’re being honest about trusting him.

@@halosammy14 but that air of uncertainty was cleared during the Pacifica moment where he gave you the dog tags

I think it's where he uses you to get to Rogue to get to Adam Smasher. He's super vague on what he's going to do, says he's just going to talk to Rogue, and instead takes your body out for a joyride. The fact that he got results isn't the point...it's that he didn't tell you how he actually intended to use your body. There was no consent to the real plan, so to speak. Johnny has a habit of doing this, and that's why he's not to be trusted.

@@Lubble- and the rogue missions are kinda after that moment. Y know...when Johnny completely and utterly betrays your trust to go joyriding in your body?

@@sudanemamimikiki1527 that bit was fun and played for laughs, at no point does V really have a go at Johnny so that's just grasping at straws

"Was he a monster?" Actually, yeah. He definitely was. We just get to have a window into him that nobody else does. Even if he wasn't always one, he did become one. Monsters, be what they may, can have feelings and regrets too. And we, as V, become a sort of estranged friend along the way. Night City was/is full of them, and Johnny doesn't get some special exception. Doesn't matter if you have conflicted emotions behind the scenes, your actions are your actions, and they define who you really are. "It just took him to die to realize of what he could have done different." lol. lmao even. Weird how the prospect of ceasing to exist entirely makes one re-evaluate the choices they made and what they could have done different. Was Johnny an interesting character? Sure. Was he a good guy? Nah. But thankfully video games can allow us an avenue into making a connection with these kinds of characters that grants a lot of entertainment and a sense of satisfaction with the experience... because we were the main character and not the hundreds of other ones that were used, abused, and couldn't find a way to reconcile with or overcome that. Just a thought for those who are easily impressionable and think Johnny Silverhand is the tits rather than tragic just because he was an edgy character in a video game you like.

@@danbuckner8364 I love your comment, and agree with almost all of it except that actions define who we are. I would disagree with that. I do agree that Johnny is a grey character and obviously a piece of shit at times. That doesn't mean that he also has good in him and people need to keep a realistic view of him in their minds. Protect yourselves ✊✊✊

I like how the the background music is a slower version of never fade away

@@DARK_AMBIGUOUS what song it is exactly?

@@kamilawons8964 it’s never fade away

All that ego has to fit somewhere.

Dam you for pointing it out

It's his hair

I disagree, and so does Johnny. Johnny wants you to keep the body even if only for a year, he realized he fucked up both his first AND second chances at life, and to ask V to trade their for his (which he doesn't) does not sit well with him at all. His beliefs altered yours and yours altered his, while he still carries hatred for the corpos unto death, he also recognized that going along with Alt is a big middle finger to the corporates too, all guilt free.

@@GameBang666 I’m not OP but I felt like while he didn’t feel he deserved it, he was happy at the end of Temperance in that cutscene on the bus. I think he knows he doesn’t deserve another chance, but as Rogue hints at in her voicemail to him (if she survived and he gets the body), he’s finally changed as a person and having someone sacrifice himself for him to this extent makes him different in every way. He lives a quiet life with no fame, no luxury, no cigarettes and gives away his posessions to an abused boy with a dream. He becomes someone that maybe isn’t selfless but isn’t living for himself or ideals anymore (he even says in this ending how he realizes he doesn’t have to give a fuck about the corps etc or make it his mission). I felt a lot more satisfied seeing the real growth of his character there than I did in an ending where V lived, and knowing he was going to look the face in the mirror that gave him this chance everyday and truly become a better person, one who’s struggling but still actually smiles when he’s leaving the city. He seems kind of at peace in a weird way and like he is going to be someone new.

@@galaxychar I understand the appeal of the temperance ending for someone who's friends with Johnny, but he'd already died. Alt is wrong when she says "you stand to lose nothing and he stands to gain everything". Not because Johnny wouldn't gain anything but because he'd already been given his chance in life and people usually only get the one, but V still stands to lose his life, his love, his friends and all the other things that make us human. Alt's viewpoint is flawed because she's spent over 5 decades as a ghost in the shell without the benefit of having genuine interactions with fleshy organisms like Johnny had with V. She sees us all as just data, and V says it themselves when referring to Maeko. "You can't trust someone who decides whether to keep you as a friend or bump you off as their enemy based on a decimal"(or something like that)

@@GameBang666 I think it depends a bit on how much credence you give to those last 6 months. If V is going to die anyway, no matter what, then they’ve already lost all of those things and will just be spending extra time with them. The choice reminded me of terminally ill patients who decide whether to spend extra time on extreneous treatments while dying in a slow and hard way, or making the choice to peacefully make their way out. In this case V basically decides to become a new form of life by joining Alt in what comes next instead of dragging their last bits of life out. I felt that even more when I played The Sun and saw Judy’s misery at being with my V while they were dying and even leaving her. There was something that felt cold and pointless about their life. It’s also worth noting that to me at least, V also died, they flatlined before the relic saved them and have multiple npcs like the delamain AI’s call them a dead person walking, just like Johnny is. I ended up seeing it as they’re both two living, conscious ressurected liveforms in one body and you have the decision whether one should have 6 extra months or if one gets to fully have a whole rest of their new life to live. Yes it was V’s life to begin with but when I was V making the choice I couldn’t really justify deciding to end his life when we’re both on borrowed time and he’d actually get to live it. It feels like - sorry, yes you’re alive and real just like me, but my six months of dying matter more than your possible entire lifetime. I think if I was in that position and respected Johnny I would feel very selfish during those last months knowing he could have a whole life instead. And there was something emotional to me about giving that to someone who felt they didn’t deserve to live and proving to them that they can become someone else, especially since in the clip above we hear Johnny felt like nobody ever cared about him or liked him in his life. Obviously everyone can feel how they want to but this discussion’s really interesting to me so I wanted to elaborate a bit more on how I saw it. I do get your pov and when Johnny is the one to make the choice I usually have him choose to let V live to make him do something selfless for the narrative, because you’re right in the sense that V actually has more in the world to live for even if it’s 6 months. And if you’re RPing that V is going to try and find a way to save themselves despite what Alt says will happen then I can buy that. But if not then him taking over the body makes sense to me overall I think.

I like Cyberpunk but saying it has better character development than Red Dead 2 is absurd. That's just blindly fanboying

@@pigmuffin3581 i didn't say it's better i said they are in the same level for me they are both amazing in their character developement. But red dead redemption 2 had mistakes of writing in it's story not in the character devlopement you idiot But even that red dead redemption is an absolute masterpiece

@@pigmuffin3581 this his opinion it’s ok to have different opinions

@@uzan6893 and it’s okay for opinions to be wrong.

@@mrpopo5097 and it's ok for not giving two fucks about others opinion

Agreed, I enjoy rain

thx for the tip

How do you choose the suicide ending? All I see are trusting Arasaka, panam and you and rouge. Is it to throw away the pills after selecting the rogue option? I tried that and nothing worked.