Pokémon Emerald's Broken RNG Explained! (For Shiny Hunters)

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ShinyCollector

ShinyCollector

7 жыл бұрын

This video is mostly the basics while going slightly in depth to explain Pokemon Emerald's Random Number Generator, and I then explain what it means for shiny hunters. I worked really hard on this video, so any feedback means a lot!
If you want to know how to hunt Pokémon you can't SR for in Emerald, I explain how here:
• How to Shiny Hunt Rayq...
Update:
Here's answers to other great questions I've had!
1) "Does synchronize work?"
Yes synchronize still works, it shouldn't be done to hunt because things get complex, but for just having a good natured Pokémon it works.
2) "How common are shiny frames?"
The actual occurence of shiny frames should average 1 every ~2.27 minutes.
3) "What if Emerald has a dead battery?"/"If my emerald has a working battery is it okay?"
An Emerald with a dead internal battery doesn't effect the RNG or act any different than other Emeralds. They all function like this REGARDLESS OF BATTERY. (at least concerning the concepts I covered in the video)
4) "Can I turn off my game or does it need to be on for the whole hunt?"
Yes, it is ok to turn off your game, people think frames are far apart so they need to keep it on to hit further frames, but since we've deducted how common they are, turning it off is okay!
5) "Does this problem exist in Fire Red and Leaf Green?"
Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green do not have a battery and are not subject to this problem by any means at all.
6) "I found a shiny, does this mean I can get more shinies"
Finding shinies is 100% irrelevant. That and the game's functions are independent variables. All the functions work the exact same still.
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@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to know how to hunt Pokémon you can't SR for in Emerald, I explain how here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a-ColpODyrqRqqc.html
@professortrickroom3777
@professortrickroom3777 7 жыл бұрын
Nice G.Yee intro!
@jcprofit
@jcprofit 6 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 I
@notmymomma69
@notmymomma69 6 жыл бұрын
This is what happens with a dead battery or is this just poor game mechanics
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
Just the game mechanics. This happens in Emerald regardless of battery life. In Ruby and Sapphire, however, it's only dead battery.
@pixelgamer1603
@pixelgamer1603 6 жыл бұрын
This helps a lot
@Duskeo_
@Duskeo_ 7 жыл бұрын
Imaging finding a random shiny feebas in ruby/sapphire
@bobjoe3492
@bobjoe3492 7 жыл бұрын
It took me about 2 weeks to find a normal Feebas, I should of just camped there until I found the shiny tbh
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Temmie Flakes shoulda
@lokilaufeyson7267
@lokilaufeyson7267 7 жыл бұрын
I did in Sapphire :)
@Marchingvenusaur
@Marchingvenusaur 7 жыл бұрын
Temmie Flakes i found a shiny Magikarp trying to get a Feebas. To this day still the only shiny I ever encountered
@knightshade1297
@knightshade1297 7 жыл бұрын
Marchingvenusaur did you fish it or came across while surf
@GlitchCityMissingNo
@GlitchCityMissingNo 6 жыл бұрын
You're right, this is all Sunkern's fault.
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 6 жыл бұрын
VanyaIvanovichBraginsky curse you Sunkern
@FwippyFwop
@FwippyFwop 6 жыл бұрын
Sunkern's villain backstory is *rooted* *firmly* in this plot.
@ghostlylinks3422
@ghostlylinks3422 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s that plants fault
@TCBE
@TCBE 5 жыл бұрын
Frick sunkern
@ehrichan6726
@ehrichan6726 4 жыл бұрын
VanyaIvanovichBraginsky Damn Sunkern!
@LysonToughec
@LysonToughec 7 жыл бұрын
I killed my first shiny I ever encountered in Pokémon Emerald. It was a zigzagoon and I had no idea shinies existed so I freaked out because of the sparkle and killed it, then I realized no sooner than after killing it that it may have been what is refereed to as a "shiny" and I was so upset I didn't play emerald for the rest of the day. >:^\
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
I ran from my first shiny ever in D/P. I think it was a geodude and it sparkled, so I thought it had "diamond" ball capsules because ball capsules were a thing. I ran away to go buy some and sure enough they didn't exist. Years later I remembered and was like "oh, that was a shiny"
@imundead2497
@imundead2497 5 жыл бұрын
I killed 4 that i found
@scottpilgrimpwns
@scottpilgrimpwns 5 жыл бұрын
I killed my first every shiny, it was a purrloin and I still pain each time I think about it.
@effieli7230
@effieli7230 5 жыл бұрын
Sparkles are that scary?
@shreekulkarni1685
@shreekulkarni1685 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Rockrufflepuff
@Rockrufflepuff 7 жыл бұрын
Actually found this very helpful! I've always struggled to fully grasp the specifics of Emerald's broken RNG, and what exactly was huntable in it so. Great video! c:
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
xBlackthornWolfx yay! I'm glad I could help, and thank you :D
@CollectorTogami
@CollectorTogami 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. This was a much needed one for the shiny hunting community, in my opinion. I do have one correction: the seed is determined shortly after booting the game, not when you reach the overworld. This means you can reach the overworld with different frame values. (FRLG determines initial seed at the continue screen, but that's another story) Another notable thing is that all gen 3 GBA games will change the seed to your TiD when you begin a new game. So you can use that to soft reset in a "safer" way within Emerald and dead battery RS.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Collector Togami some of this is new information to me, what I got about the seed is was found either right before or during production of this video from Bulbapedia because mostly I just wanted to let people know what is wrong with emerald but it's still huntable if you're smart about it. Because I have had a lot of people tell me they soft reset in Emerald and had no idea and I've had people tell me you can't find shinies in Emerald because of bad information. Thanks for correcting those couple things, very appreciated!
@CollectorTogami
@CollectorTogami 7 жыл бұрын
Any time. I research the RNG as a whole across all gens, so feel free to ask me if you want anything fact checked for your videos.
@Onimyst
@Onimyst 6 жыл бұрын
Collector Togami Are you able to explain how the Zigzagoon can be shiny but the starter isn't whilst soft resetting? I'm assuming its because the encounter values for both Pokemon aren't generated on the same frame - e.g Treecko values generated on frame 1, Zigzagoon frame 2? Or am I misunderstanding.
@Grosvenor77
@Grosvenor77 Жыл бұрын
@@CollectorTogami you may never see this, but for HGSS if I’m hunting for shiny mewtwo with SR, what can I do to add more randomness? Like can I simply just sr and eventually get it or will I just be getting the same versions of mewtwo if I land on the same Frames?
@jordanlemieux5411
@jordanlemieux5411 11 ай бұрын
@@CollectorTogamiso in your opinion if I’m trying to collect all shiny legendaries in Emerald (using pomeg glitch) is it worth resetting until I get either a shiny uncatchable zigzagoon or starter to make it “easier” to get all of the shiny legendaries via SRs or is it *almost* irrelevant and I should just keep doing RA encounters until I find the shiny one. Any help/information is appreciated
@wojeh
@wojeh 7 жыл бұрын
brilliant video LJ, about time someone finally covered emerald's RNG regarding shiny hunting
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
wojeh thanks Wojeh! And yeah I agree 😂
@YourFriedBread
@YourFriedBread 7 жыл бұрын
Great video LJ! I think this will help a lot of hunters out! Would definitely be interested in seeing more videos like this from you :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
YourFriedBread thanks Brendan, it means a lot!
@UNNVKED
@UNNVKED 4 жыл бұрын
I caught a shiny Treecko whilst watching. Blessed video
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@210_SRT
@210_SRT 3 жыл бұрын
My friend found a shiny numel while I was watching but he killed it 😭
@pidgey3734
@pidgey3734 2 жыл бұрын
@@210_SRT bahaha
@shinywaf
@shinywaf 7 жыл бұрын
The bit about the battle recorder is news to me, very interesting. Has this been proven? Also, I thought it might be helpful to note that keeping your gameboy on for as long as possible while random encountering (keeping it plugged in even when not hunting) helps to keep the odds a bit more consistent. Most people probably only hunt for an hour or two a day, which, in theory, would restrict you to 25-50 shiny frames. Of course, you could potentially have even fewer to work with during the first 1-2 hour interval. Jumping around those same frames every hunting session is limiting in that access to shiny frames past those bounds is prevented. Think of it like this: A particular file may only contain 20 shiny frames within the first 2 hours, but a cumulative 80 within the first 4. The odds would be much lower within the 2 hour interval (1/21,600) than within all 4 hours (1/10,800). You can never know for sure how bountiful in shiny frames your spread is within any given interval of time (unless you use RNG Reporter which would defeat the purpose), so it's better to be safe than sorry. So yeah, the longer your game is on, the more natural your chances will be.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
A different pokemon youtuber/shiny hunter told me about the battle recorder exploit and used a program to show the actually frame and how it skips, but I haven't seen anyone hunt using it successfully. Yeah this does make sense, but 20 frames isn't bad, and the frames might only be 1/21,600 if divided like that, but it's still technically 1/8192 just poor luck when generating in that fram (not necessarily explaining this for you, but for others that might read this and get confused) but likewise leaving it on for a bit might give you a worse span for frames, I guess really the best bet would be to vary back and forth between leaving it on and going from the start every now and again. Good insight though, definitely a good point to think about.
@tylernorris1114
@tylernorris1114 9 ай бұрын
So I just got a shiny tentacool 30min into hunting for a feebas, my Emeralds battery is dry, so basically with my rng I just need to stay encountering the same patch of grass until one pops up?
@Sonikks
@Sonikks 7 жыл бұрын
Good video LJ. Very much needed and I hope it'll do some good in ending the Emerald stigma that's in the community.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Sonikkts I hope so too, it would be great to see more people hunt in it!
@BottleRocket11
@BottleRocket11 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information about such common misconceptions! I, personally, had backed away from Emerald hunting because I never knew about the shiny frames frequenting every 3 or so minutes like you mentioned. I definitely look forward to getting into Emerald again to give hunting there a try!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
BottleRocket13 best of luck! And yeah until I thought about how often the frames occur I've been iffy about hunting in emerald as well
@BottleRocket11
@BottleRocket11 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you and best of luck on your hunting, as well! Thank you for hosting this upcoming ISHC, as well! Looking forward to it!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
BottleRocket13 so am I, I'm excited!
@bumbruh
@bumbruh 7 жыл бұрын
Important Info I feel this video didn't point out: Soft reseting does not reset your frame count. To reset your frames completely to the beginning, you must Hard reset. (shut down your GBA) Frames start counting down as soon as you start the game up. (meaning frames are counting in the title screen) For random encounters, certain shiny frames only work with specific pokemon, using something called "Encounter slots." Example: If Duskull is in Encounter slot 1, and Shuppet is in Encounter slot 2, and the shiny frame is linked with Encounter slot 2, then you can only find a shiny Shuppet on that specific frame. In order to get a shiny Duskull, you'd have to find a different shiny frame that is linked with Encounter slot 1. In every area of the game where you can find Pokemon, there are exactly 18 encounter slots, even in an area like Mt. Pyre that only has 2 Pokemon.
@MaskuIine
@MaskuIine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a nice video on this! I'm sure it'll help a lot of hunters. I personally don't wish to hunt in Emerald cus the game is so expensive now but I know several people still want to.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
SH- Clockwork yeah it's definitely expensive, around 35 on average. Thanks for the compliment :D
@glennprice976
@glennprice976 7 жыл бұрын
I also should mention that the starting seed for ruby and sapphire with a dead battery is 5A0 in hex not 0 like in emerald. Makes a huge difference if you actually want to hunt for a shiny in those games
@Gutswitdaboof710
@Gutswitdaboof710 Жыл бұрын
I doubt you would see this 5 years later but can u please elaborate on this? I’m hunting in my Ruby copy with a dead battery and I’m curious how that affects shinyness being determined
@Tapzy
@Tapzy Жыл бұрын
​@@Gutswitdaboof710did you get the shiny with dry battery? I want to hunt groudon with dead battery to with softrrsets
@Gutswitdaboof710
@Gutswitdaboof710 Жыл бұрын
@@Tapzy personally with a dead battery if you can do runaways I would recommend that from what I know it’s impossible to soft reset for shinies in Ruby and sapphire with a dead battery I hope this helps and if you ever get a new battery or hunt with the dead one good luck and mush love🍄🖤☮️
@tylernorris1114
@tylernorris1114 9 ай бұрын
​@Tapzy I just got a shiny tentacool hunting a feebas on a dry battery on Emerald, also got the feebas
@angelica3425
@angelica3425 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I've been unable to find any information on hunting R/S with a dead battery so this was really good to explain everything :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly for RS it’s much better to just change the battery or get it changed. Most tech stores such as Best Buy, RadioShack and more will replace it for you for just the cost of the battery
@angelica3425
@angelica3425 5 жыл бұрын
@@shinycollector ok, thank you so much for the advice!
@IconTheIncredible
@IconTheIncredible 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98, I really do commend you for making this video. Also I am really excited for it too. The reason is that back in 2008-2009 I've came up with this theory and even written a guide to easily get a shiny. But since I was only 14 and didn't think anyone would be interested in an old version of Pokémon, I jus tossed the notes into my collection/personal notes pile. I want to thank you for proving this (even if its years later). For now any thing I come up with I'll share instead of keeping it a secret. I also hope you do well in all future endeavors. Keep up the good work.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Icon Gone Solo actually I didn't prove that it was broken, that's been proven for many years. I just proved that it shouldn't be feared to hunt in Emerald
@thyfoamy5821
@thyfoamy5821 7 жыл бұрын
See, Emerald isn't a scary place to hunt ... gosh guys. -_- Oh, wait! I was one of those scary hunters too. LOL Thanks for clearing things up LJ.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Thy Foamy no problem, it was a lot of fun to make, and will do! Thanks Foamy!
@fusionflair5964
@fusionflair5964 3 жыл бұрын
what about runing away and going back in the battle for electrode or sudowoodu legendarys ect?
@Henryduckfan63
@Henryduckfan63 7 жыл бұрын
Great video man, I'd love to see more like it.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Henryduckfan63 thank you! :D
@xaviereger8556
@xaviereger8556 7 жыл бұрын
I did not even know that this was a thing on Pokemon Emerald. Please make more and keep up the good work :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Xavier Eger a lot of people don't know it's a thing, and try to SR Pokemon and can't, glad I could help 😁
@DaSheepKiller
@DaSheepKiller 7 жыл бұрын
First 30 seconds shows more shinies than I've found in my entire life.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
DaSheepKiller lol I've been around for a while
@DaSheepKiller
@DaSheepKiller 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 / For how long you've been around you don't have enough subs. Also you've found so many shinies on this channel, while on mine I've found 2, which I didn't even hunt for.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
DaSheepKiller yeah not a lot of subs, but not too few either. My channel has had rapid growth lately, I started the year around 1800
@DaSheepKiller
@DaSheepKiller 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 Besides the shiny Roggenrola I found recently, my luck is bad with shinies. (and KZfaq too because I've never experienced rapid growth lol)
@hampig9241
@hampig9241 3 жыл бұрын
First 2 seconds shows more than I've ever found in a game other than pokemon go
@bread7289
@bread7289 7 жыл бұрын
so to sum this up pokemon emerald V SR 50 times V If Fail > Reset Game V If Shiny Zigzagoon, keep resetting V If not shiny zigzagoon in 50 SR's Reset amirite?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
N2N1 Correction in the order a bit: Going for starters (if dead battery R/S replace zigzagoon with poochyena) 50 Soft resets V No shiny zigzagoon, restart save V Shiny zigzagoon, keep save, keep SRing V Shiny starter But I've also done a video on that too, I'll get the link for you
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
N2N1 if you want to do it with better chances of getting the starter, do it as I show in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a-ColpODyrqRqqc.html
@camach.
@camach. 7 жыл бұрын
This was helpful af. Would love to see more like it.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
I do have one more based on emerald already up, and 2 more planned. My ten fast hunts video is also more technical like this one if you would like to watch it. Thanks for the support!
@SuperJoezeff
@SuperJoezeff 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I've come across this video, I've done at least 2,000 soft resets on my ruby save (with the internal time issue) I guess I'm late, but this helped a ton, thank you
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Joezeff better late than never, but yeah I'm glad you found this before the hunt went too much longer. As soon as you change the battery on Ruby you're good to go back at it, or if it's an interactable pokemon like Rayquaza you can do run aways still
@SuperJoezeff
@SuperJoezeff 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 awesome, I didn't even know the battery was possible to change, thanks for the help once again
@Rayquaza911
@Rayquaza911 7 жыл бұрын
Damn so Vincento's shiny Rayquaza in a SPEEDRUN on first try is incredibly rare
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Mega Rayquaza911 nope
@crudojoshuaricofort8795
@crudojoshuaricofort8795 5 жыл бұрын
Nope since he is a speedrunner, he is basically resetting the game everytime he attempts a speedrun...
@OmegaVideoGameGod
@OmegaVideoGameGod 3 жыл бұрын
@Rayquaza911 he might have known something ahead of time.
@DevilMayKye
@DevilMayKye 4 жыл бұрын
This video is still confusing. I've been soft resetting for a Shiny Groudon in Ruby for two weeks now on a dry battery. I did some test catches and found that it has different natures and IVs each time. So does that mean I can still find a Shiny, or have I been wasting my time?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve been wasting time. A few might have different stats because frames are on 1/60 of a second intervals. However, you’ll at most find the same one or two hundred Groudon, and will most likely not have a shiny frame within those 100-200
@1up910
@1up910 7 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a channel like this I subbed
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
the1-upgamer thanks!!!
@schwarzegeometrie4034
@schwarzegeometrie4034 7 жыл бұрын
this was a really well edited and scripted video, allthough: i have no clue about rng in pokemon and shinyhunting, and i still dont know what i should do to get a shiny encounter on emerald
@soto9128
@soto9128 5 жыл бұрын
Damn my ruby's battery is dry... oh well, at least I can do Random encounters
@user-ew4sn9vh5s
@user-ew4sn9vh5s 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I replaced the dry battery from my zapphire game, does this now mean that it's back to normal? Or is it once the battery has run dry once the shiny hunting will be affected forever? I want a shiny Beldum :c
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
Starchy AT in sapphire replacing the battery should make it back to normal, good luck on Beldum!
@Dubulba
@Dubulba 7 жыл бұрын
much needed video on youtube, great job :D
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Dubulba yeet
@Dubulba
@Dubulba 7 жыл бұрын
:)
@tristanschonhals4416
@tristanschonhals4416 4 жыл бұрын
Heyja, I'm a Bit confused right now. If you say that frames are always the same when restarting the game, does this mean if I got a shiny starter that soft resetting works because of a super early shiny frame that will always be there?
@Dale_Gribble789
@Dale_Gribble789 7 жыл бұрын
I was playing though emerald again and I went to cut though some grass to avoid some trainers and the first Pokemon I ran into was a shiny numel
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
joe parks that's awesome! Numel has a great shiny sprite!!!
@hugedickerinokripperino5299
@hugedickerinokripperino5299 7 жыл бұрын
This music brings me back
@alexlafish
@alexlafish 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video man, subbed.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
qutal thanks man!
@ShinyHunterSandslash
@ShinyHunterSandslash 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude!! :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyHunter Sandslash great face dude ;)
@itsjirachii867
@itsjirachii867 6 жыл бұрын
DANMIT SUNKERN IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
@jackmichael6178
@jackmichael6178 7 жыл бұрын
What if your copy of Emerald has a dead internal battery? Does that change any of this at all?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Gilbert Bends doesn't change any of this for Emerald
@mrboss9952
@mrboss9952 2 жыл бұрын
I caught a shiny Tropius, completely out of the blue. I wish u all luck in your shiny hunts
@andrewsaenz3974
@andrewsaenz3974 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation bro perfect def gonna sub
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, and thanks for the support!
@barefootbreezy458
@barefootbreezy458 2 жыл бұрын
I found a completely random shiny geodude last night on emerald on my gba sp! I think that’s only the second or third shiny in my life. Pretty sure I’ve encountered other shinies throughout the years but I probably accidentally killed them
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 2 жыл бұрын
That’s dope, congrats on the Geodude!
@zackkazyak2767
@zackkazyak2767 7 жыл бұрын
I'm currently going after mew (RA's) even after doing a bunch of research on this subject, and watching the video, I'm still confused about the frames. and I know the answer is right in front of me, but I'm still lost. do the frames reset each time you turn the game on and off and save?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Zack Kazyak no, each time you turn it on, it starts from the same frame as the previous time regardless of saving.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Zack Kazyak the only thing that would make the frames start different is starting a new game
@zackkazyak2767
@zackkazyak2767 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 thanks man! so basically the only thing that changes is the seed correct?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Zack Kazyak frames are just time markers. 1/60th of a second is how long a frame is. Same thing with videos as you've probably heard more often (60 fps) it means sixty frames per second so 1/60th of a second is one frame. Just a time marker for us. The seed starts at a constant, 0. And then the seed moves up per each frame, frame 1 is 0, frame 2 is 1, and so on. If the other factors in the formula are the same, the only variable is the seed, which is a constant based on time. So the seed does change, but the formula in the end is the same. The same factors stay. The factors will only change once you start a new game then ID and Secret ID in the formula change from the previous game file, however throughout the new games whole play through they stay constant to the new formula. So the seed does change the farther into the game you play, but when you start up the game next time, it'll start from the same starting point.
@zackkazyak2767
@zackkazyak2767 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 gotcha, thanks for the help!!
@Neefew
@Neefew 7 жыл бұрын
I have some questions: Will the shiny frame always be the same frame every time from resetting? Is there always a shiny frame in every 8192 frames? Because if those two things are true, wouldn't it make it easier to shiny hunt in Pokemon Emerald by finding the shiny frame and making sure you always get encounters on that frame
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Neefew _ yes they always appear in the same sequential order they originally appear in. No there isn't a frame per every 8192. Sometimes you'll go 50,000 without one (just like when shiny hunting). And yes you can still locate your frames. People do this and it's called RNG abuse. It abuses a glitch in the game and is seen by most people as illegitimate. Yes it makes it easier, however not everyone likes taking the easy way out. This is kind of the same difference of mindstate about it between methods hunter and full odds hunters I suppose, but this scenario also throws in a factor of ethics of abusing a game's glitch.
@maso_fandead6920
@maso_fandead6920 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you mentioned this in the video, I might have missed it. But does this also apply for eggs? Or can I do the egg method like normal as if its in ruby/sapphire?
@DevonLadd
@DevonLadd 3 жыл бұрын
I dont have the reaction speed to follow that sign as it falls XD
@xuhui8390
@xuhui8390 4 жыл бұрын
Started playing emerald on an emulator some time ago. I already got 2 shinies without even trying oml 😂
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
Wild
@liltasty2572
@liltasty2572 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a shiny ralts in a pokemon mmo
@sumayiazahra3034
@sumayiazahra3034 2 жыл бұрын
I get in fire red yesterday random shiny xD and today game corner shiny after looking 180 pokemon.
@jojop9609
@jojop9609 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if I sound dumb af or my English is not good enough with this frame/seed thingy, would soft resetting for shiny cinderquil (present from Professor after finishing the Hoen Dex) useful/ work at all?
@supergalaxysam
@supergalaxysam 7 жыл бұрын
I never knew that people thought shinies in Emerald were impossible to get because I managed to stumble upon a shiny Poochyena on Route 123 while recovering from getting teeth pulled. Needless to say, my young, cotton ball stuffed and drugged self was super disappointed when it decided to run away. Anyhow, good explanation of how shinies work, and I learned something new about Emerald!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
SuperGalaxySam people don't think it's impossible, but near impossible to hunt specifically. Thanks! I'm glad I was able to help educate!
@dinnerblastr2177
@dinnerblastr2177 7 жыл бұрын
So this Problem Effects also Natures and IV ? I habe been breeding for a Jolly Sceptile, and I seem to get always alot of of the Same Natures but after 5 Boxes not a single Jolly one. Might this be the reason or am i just unlucky?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
you are just unlucky. if you stock up about 2 or 3 boxes without turning the game off, then you can save and turn it off at your leisure and hatch them, you should definitely have the right nature by then, unless one of the parents is holding the everstone.
@Darknight0110
@Darknight0110 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinycollector if I synchronize for a naughty nature while breeding will I never find a shiny unless I have a naughty shiny frame?
@buzurk2806
@buzurk2806 3 жыл бұрын
I played through emerald 3 times and never found a shiny and i basically still havent found one
@caseyhubbard76
@caseyhubbard76 Жыл бұрын
Hello Shinycollector! Love your channel. I have a possibly difficult question for you. On Emerald I managed to catch a Shiny Treecko many years ago. I can recall starting new game every 50~ encounters. I eventually got a game save where on a very early frame I started to run into the shiny zigzagoon in my battle so I knew I was right there! I did luckily land the shiny started on one of those early frames. Now I was performing SR to get my shiny starter. Now years later I turned the game on and I am standing in front of Rayquaza. Is it worth a shot to put a bunch of time trying to SR a shiny Rayquaza in that same early frame I landed my starter on? Basically repeat the SR on the early frame till I get lucky in the same method I got my starter. Do you have any advice or recommendations? Thank you so much for reading this and being an awesome Pokémon content creator!!!
@aura8447
@aura8447 Жыл бұрын
I'm starting a shiny hunt for a starter in Emerald and did you just Soft Reset and spammed A to get to the bag to get your starter and reset after 50 tries? I've seen everywhere that you have to like wait for the sign, I wanted to know if I can just be spamming to open the bag cause trying to hit the sign right is causing me problems
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder 3 жыл бұрын
As it turns out, you can determine the SID when starting the game, so you can use the RNG to your advantage and get relatively easy shinies.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but this guide is for shiny hunting and RNG abuse is not shiny hunting
@silentkuriboh8156
@silentkuriboh8156 7 жыл бұрын
I'm soooo confused. I've been hunting for a shiny mudkip starter by soft resetting and have already gotten 11 shiny poochyenas yet no mudkip.... is there a mistake I'm making and that I have no chance to get it with my current framed or am I just really unlucky? plz help me. is there a way to calculate it?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can get it. Because you're seeing mudkip I assume you're hunting in Ruby/Sapphire rather than Emerald. Is the battery dead or alive? If it's alive you're just very unlucky. If it's dead you're literally 1 frame of all of those times from getting your shiny starter. So you aren't doing anything wrong and either way, yes you can get the shiny. Best of luck, hope this eloped but if you're still confused please tell which part(s) you need clarification on.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
*helped Not eloped.
@silentkuriboh8156
@silentkuriboh8156 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 thank you for replying. the internal battery is dead. but can u help me understand something? if I keep on getting one frame off, how long would I have to wait or be ahead to make sure it won't end up a poochyena? if that's not what needs to be done, am I just being really unlucky?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
CrappyDuelist 5 15 20 you literally only needed to be 1/60th of a second faster. So that's not much to be off by, not much that you can really try to make a difference, keep going at the pace you are and you will end up getting the starter when you accidentally go 1/60th faster
@silentkuriboh8156
@silentkuriboh8156 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 thank you. it'll be my first time having a shiny as my starter and I had no idea how tough it is with the RNG broken. thx for your help!
@ant5946
@ant5946 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so I'm shiny hunting Mew in an Emerald emulator (through RAs) and haven't found a shiny throughout the rest of the game. does this mean it's impossible to get a shiny mew (considering I don't know the shiny frame)?
@RhaedSoaresLhpsoares
@RhaedSoaresLhpsoares 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@WISHMKRMortem
@WISHMKRMortem 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to clarify this for myself. If i was SRing in a RS version with a dead internal battery, I would want to restart the file every 50 SRs or so so I'm not constantly hitting the same frame when I go into battle?
@BranceSH
@BranceSH 7 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining it in a simple way. Love the seed image reference!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Brance yeah I was trying to find a balance of advanced and simple, I think this wasn't too bad *shrugs* thanks Brance!
@tugboat7362
@tugboat7362 7 жыл бұрын
0:36 NOSTALGIA OVERLOOOOAAAADDDD
@Fatebringer
@Fatebringer 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought you would have a reply in two years i wonder if you still use youtube
@haydenward554
@haydenward554 7 жыл бұрын
so can i RunAway hunt for shiny rayquaza??
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
EnderMelon yes you can
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Taylor Cason go to description to find my other video on that
@LEUNAM43081
@LEUNAM43081 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Was led to your channel from blueboyphins video. As far as the shiny frames are concerned when do they start counting? From boot up of the game or boot up of the overworld? I'm SR'ing for a shiny froakie starter in X and keep doing the same thing over and over. Should I be giving time for frames to pass at some point to get into later frames in time? Any help would be appreciated. Keep up the good work.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 3 жыл бұрын
X is not like emerald, for that froakie just do regular resets, don’t overthink it. Good luck!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Phin is absolutely GOAT, if you didn’t sub him before coming here, you should go back and do that 👀
@ryke2903
@ryke2903 7 жыл бұрын
I love the intro!
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Amador thanks! I have a new one now though that I think is pretty good too
@onyx1186
@onyx1186 7 жыл бұрын
my first shiny ever rayquaza
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
onyx1186 rayquaza is a crazy cool one to have as a first shiny!
@MrPopi1511
@MrPopi1511 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, did you get shiny rayquaza on an emerald version ? And how did you reset it ? Soft reset or can you flee again and again ?
@jacobmonks3722
@jacobmonks3722 6 жыл бұрын
Mine was a blue nose Diglet. I didn't know what shinys were at the time but I caught it anyway because it was cool looking.
@dachef3815
@dachef3815 7 жыл бұрын
Can you soft reset if your game doesn't have a workin internal battery. It says after that click. Based events won't happen. Thanks.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Da Chef no, In Emerald you can never soft reset unless you do the starters like I said, or the battle video like I said. In Ruby and Sapphire you can normally soft reset, but not with a dry battery
@dachef3815
@dachef3815 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 Can you still find shinies by random encounters and run aways?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Da Chef okay now I know you're just messing with me because I spend the whole video explaining that one.
@dachef3815
@dachef3815 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 Sorry about saying RE. I am planning on hunting raquaza and wanted to ensure I wasn't going to waste time. I wasn't sure if a RA was the same as the RE! Thanks for all of your help!
@diegogtz2301
@diegogtz2301 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I wanted to know if in pokemon emerald you can only get the initial pokemon in your shiny version with the RNG method, you can not get it simply by resetting?
@frickinfrick8488
@frickinfrick8488 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a guess as to why they made Emerald this way? Was it just an oversight or did they want to put less strain on the battery or something?
@inuyasha989
@inuyasha989 7 жыл бұрын
even to this day im salty as fuck that i ran into a shiny machoke on victory road in what ever version of pokemon it was that had wally you know the kid that they gave that bad ass music track too when they did the remake lol but anyway ended up hitting a fucking crit on it and killed it >.>
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
nightshadow RIP that's one of the worst ways to fail a shiny, you can do everything right but RNGesus gives, and then RNGesus takes.
@Borchert97
@Borchert97 6 жыл бұрын
I remember my first ever shiny, was in Emerald, and it was a Spinarak post-game in the Safari Zone, it's funny now knowing how odd shiny hunting was in this game.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
Emil Borchert it’s not too crazy, still 1/8192 but yeah Emerald is such a different case from other games. Makes you wonder how the code got so messed up
@nickbomer3158
@nickbomer3158 7 жыл бұрын
Hey collector, I have a shiny wingull from ruby and Ruby's internal battery has run dry so can I still SR for a shiny rayquaza??? Sorry if this is confusing because this is new to me....
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
No you can't. As I say in this video, REs can get you s shiny, but SRs can't.
@bushidoe9634
@bushidoe9634 7 жыл бұрын
got here from yourfriedbread :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
LitSalandit Brendan? What a guy!
@casfdatgthgsdfgdfsd497
@casfdatgthgsdfgdfsd497 7 жыл бұрын
Me too
@BigBadPunisher
@BigBadPunisher 7 жыл бұрын
LitSalandit same
@ThatsMyCoffeeMug
@ThatsMyCoffeeMug 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@major_linktt1966
@major_linktt1966 7 жыл бұрын
How do I kill my enternal battery?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
it dies on its own after a few years
@major_linktt1966
@major_linktt1966 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 ok I bought one where they fixed it
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Link 22 okay that's good
@major_linktt1966
@major_linktt1966 7 жыл бұрын
ShinyCollector98 yoooo It's death xD
@major_linktt1966
@major_linktt1966 7 жыл бұрын
BDW do you have a gen 3 RNG repoter that you could send me??
@JS-nh3lu
@JS-nh3lu Жыл бұрын
So I caught a shiny starter using ur videos. Thank you! Dead battery ruby. My question is does that shiny frame still work for other pokemon on other routes? Or is it route/pokemon specific? Not using any programs just gba and cartridge.
@dot2184
@dot2184 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what your question is, I assume you're asking if an early shiny frame works everywhere and on every Pokemon, and the answer to that would be yes. If you get an early shiny frame, you can basically RNG any Pokemon you want to get a shiny (but it's not very fun, trust me)
@rigobertogaxiola570
@rigobertogaxiola570 6 жыл бұрын
do i need to readjust my timing if i have the dry battery message at the beginning? . im trying to rng abuse my latios on emerald and is taking forever.
@WobbuffetBoy
@WobbuffetBoy 7 жыл бұрын
I was trying to get a shiny roselia from the daycare with a shiny ditto, but if this video its telling the true, there's not a chance to get a shiny roselia? plx help
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
WobbuffetBoy that's not at all true. You can hatch shinies in Emerald, basically what this video says is you just can't soft reset shinies in Emerald. I recommend stocking 3 or more boxes full of eggs before turning off the game. Then save with the eggs and hatch them at leisure. Repeat this until you get it as a shiny
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
WobbuffetBoy but your odds are 1/8192. For Rosalia it's much faster if you random encounter. Having a shiny parent won't affect it in the slightest. And keep in mind this video is only applicable to emerald (and Ruby Sapphire if they have a dead battery), not any other game
@accountcreatoperidownload7321
@accountcreatoperidownload7321 4 жыл бұрын
I found my secret ID so I'm using a synchronize pokemon to find shiny and it works. I don't understand if the pokemon that I encounter at the specific "early shiny frame" can change or not.
@thegamingmetagross8191
@thegamingmetagross8191 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was planning on shiny hunting in rse and now I will just use another game with the same mon
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, you can still hunt in them, just take extra precaution in Emerald. And with R/S if you make sure the battery is good you can huntin them like any other game
@matthewcurry3565
@matthewcurry3565 5 ай бұрын
Great video man. Been k/o ing linoones nonestop and not beimg able to understand the rng and how it worked gave me real bad hopes. So, odds do still repeat and do not just happen within a certain time window of leaving the game on if i am understanding your explanatiom fully.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 5 ай бұрын
I don’t fully get how you’re trying to word it, you lost me. Frames wouldn’t repeat unless you turn it off/on, but even if you do, it’s not likely you’d hit many repeats. Each frame is 1/60 of a second, so hitting the same ones accidentally would be rare
@shinycollector7
@shinycollector7 4 ай бұрын
The way I think about it is, you want to try to play for longer periods of time if possible and vary the windows of time you play from after the game loads. You’re more likely to hit repeat frames if you, say, play for only 5 minutes every time, since you’ll only have that range of frames to hit
@kenmendoza7580
@kenmendoza7580 7 жыл бұрын
0:40 video start
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Ken Mendoza 🤷🏽‍♂️
@xfusionz619
@xfusionz619 5 жыл бұрын
You sound like missingnoxpert 😭😭😭
@eagleslegend36
@eagleslegend36 5 жыл бұрын
Still subbed to him :]
@jadeb.3332
@jadeb.3332 5 жыл бұрын
That friggin' picture of the gray-scale, staticy Jigglypuff instills the same primal fear in me that it did when I was a little kid watching obnoxious creepypasta videos. Thanks for dredging up those long-repressed memories, lol.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 5 жыл бұрын
Billy Bob lol no problem
@severedthumb4841
@severedthumb4841 Ай бұрын
Hey! Back at this video again since you helped me obtain my shiny Mudkip on Emerald 2 years ago. With me having an early shiny frame, will the early shiny frame ever leave my save file over years of time? I saved in front of Rayquaza to do SRs with my early frame and haven’t went back to hunt him in 2 years. Is it still possible to hunt him after so long? Also not sure if RAs are better even if you have an early shiny frame
@shinycollector
@shinycollector Ай бұрын
Howdy! No, it will never “leave” the save. Emerald’s frames are locked which is its whole problem. You could get the shiny rayquaza from soft resets, but since you know you have an early shiny frame and would be targeting that intentionally, it’s more along the lines of RNG manipulation at that point. If you care about it being more random and shiny hunted then I would suggest runaways. But both are options, totally up to you 👍🏼
@jw-bw3yj
@jw-bw3yj 7 жыл бұрын
Ur the only KZfaq who Pins comments Will I get pinned?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
no.
@jeschoofs
@jeschoofs 7 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL
@itstimmytime9559
@itstimmytime9559 4 жыл бұрын
When you have a 40 second intro....
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
No u
@itstimmytime9559
@itstimmytime9559 4 жыл бұрын
You have a better intro now thought... And I like it btw
@BrotherofMuninn
@BrotherofMuninn 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Quick Question is there an application I can download onto my computer that shows me the odds of encountering pokemon?
@PedroSilva-sy2cg
@PedroSilva-sy2cg 3 жыл бұрын
Have a question ,if i have a Shiny MUdkip mean that i have a early shiny frame in my game so i have more chance SR than searching in the wild ?
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously why do all D-tier poketubers have a still inanimate drawing of themselves they probably got from deviant art?
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
TheGrandRevo Get a life kid.
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 6 жыл бұрын
Real mature
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
TheGrandRevo you’re one to be talking lmfao
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 6 жыл бұрын
I was asking a question ...
@brendanauri
@brendanauri 7 жыл бұрын
disliked for the long-ass intro
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Flaming Biscuits oh watch out, we have a real hot shot over here
@Lucky-ui7dh
@Lucky-ui7dh 5 жыл бұрын
coulda used that energy to fast forward, lil bitch.
@EthanBCWEntertainment
@EthanBCWEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
I like it
@chancecarlson2023
@chancecarlson2023 6 жыл бұрын
Good video it contained some useful tips
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 6 жыл бұрын
Chance Carlson thanks!
@Harry-ju1fk
@Harry-ju1fk 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I want to shiny hunt trapinch in pokemon emerald via random encounters. I also want to attempt to synchronize adamant onto it. I have read you are free to random encounter and not worry about shiny frames but I'm not sure about synchronizing. Should I bother trying to synchronize adamant onto a random encounter shiny or not? I heard it ruins the odds. Can you answer this for me please. Thanks :)
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can either positively or negatively effect your odds. It’s best to avoid sync
@5mac866
@5mac866 7 жыл бұрын
honestly, your intro is bad
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
5macgames channel yeah I got that a lot on this one, I have a new one now that most people seem to like
@BrotherofMuninn
@BrotherofMuninn 2 жыл бұрын
Ok weird question.. Does downloading the berry glitch patch affect the being able to soft reset for the starters for ruby or sapphire games that have dead battery's?
@kidkamu
@kidkamu 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering about the introduction song it's by an artist named G. Yee. The least you could do is credit him in the description if you're using his music in the intro.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right, I’ll add it right now! I’ve linked it to anyone who has asked, but it slipped my mind to post it in the description. Thanks for the suggestion! Huge G. Yee fan btw, stoked to see someone else know of his work!
@SchwarzeSonne130
@SchwarzeSonne130 7 жыл бұрын
when i record a shiny encounter battle and then over and over i would get every time im in this frame a shiny right
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the same frame gives a shiny every time. But this is hard to do unless you try to hit the same frame.
@keanulee2347
@keanulee2347 Жыл бұрын
Any tips on getting shiny deoxyes am shiny hunting it now and I have my gameboy on all the time should I be in the battle or on the island when I want to take a break ?
@chaseelwind1578
@chaseelwind1578 Жыл бұрын
is there a delay for fishing? i cant seem to hit my shiny frame at all, but on land i always hit it less than 5 minutes
@redruMratscaP
@redruMratscaP 3 жыл бұрын
So, let's see if I finally got this right, my seed is determined with a new save file, and when the game resets it comes back to that frame/pokemon, so if I could find one pokemon for every frame, it would be the same pokemon, in the exact same order, like an animation that starts all over again, that's why the battle video method works, because it allows you to use frames from the future instead of starting always and the one from when the savefile was created.
@j.j.zummack2205
@j.j.zummack2205 6 жыл бұрын
I want to know what seed to put in RNG Reporter for emerald RNG abusing. Would I put 0 and find a spread and then go for the frame after resetting my game?
@magronorph5029
@magronorph5029 4 жыл бұрын
If you decide not to bother with getting good rng from the start of your save, can your save potentially be labelled as unviable for shiny hunting (SRing)? Or is it OK after enough playtime? And if so, how much time? Basically I don't want to reset my new save over and over but still wanna SR shiny hunt.
@shinycollector
@shinycollector 4 жыл бұрын
For the starters you’d have to do that, but for any other reset hunt click the link in the pinned comment
@rubenboswall9768
@rubenboswall9768 Жыл бұрын
I bought a game of ruby with a dead internal battery is it ok for me to shiny hunt thru res? does it effect the chance
@ee-sm8ey
@ee-sm8ey 10 ай бұрын
I know I am... a bit late, but I was just wondering - do you know how this affects natures or PID in general?
@TouchedBigfoot8
@TouchedBigfoot8 3 жыл бұрын
Does this frame thing relate to breeding? Is it the frame you breed or the frame you get the egg?
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