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>Character makes a mistake, it's instantly called out and she reflects on herself >Audience "I can't believe she did that, I hate her now"

I feel as if people forgets that characters have flaws and those flaws can be worked on with enough time into them.

You all remember when Ash was the most annoying trainer from s1-3? The times he ate humble pie as a result? Liko still has to experience a few things before she develops as a character. A kind character seeing the need to fight/harm so that there's growth on both sides.

Wait why tho, a imperfect character is the best character you could have, we could actually see them develop which is always pog. I LOVED this episode personally because of that reason.

i think that Liko`s kindness is not a character flaw that she has to overcome. She needs to understand the bigger picture and be kind to everyone: her pokemon, her rivals and herself. Thats respecting nyaohas will to fight, knowing that letting others easy win is not good for them and more importantly respecting her own emotions of wanting to win.

I think they had Liko do this because 1) it is her personality and 2) Kabu pointed it out to her and someone needed to. Now that she notices this, she'll change. Character development exists for a reason.

Liko is an introvert. She has introduced herself as such from the first episode. Additionally, she is modest and cares about others excessively. This is the exact opposite from Ash. He was an incredible extrovert, boisterous all the while caring more for himself and his own goals (at the start of his journey, that is. He grew to take others' presence into account overtime.). Of course this was going to happen. Note that the gym leader also said Liko's passion with Pokemon might not lie in battling and that there are many ways for a trainer to create an identity for themselves. Thus, while Roy is clearly the battle passionate of the team, Liko might go another direction similar to May, Dawn and Serena, or something else entirely.

So, people are pissed off because a character does something wrong which is aknowledged in the story as a flaw? Lol

Sometimes it irks me when people say that Ash has more character than Liko. Ash had a whole 20 years of series to build himself yet people won’t let Liko have 20 minutes to build one. Plus, it’s not like Ash was, and still is, super developed either. If you’re gonna be a total Gordon Ramsey on one kids show protagonist, then it’s not fair to leave the other hanging.

I get the feeling that the people upset about this just wanted Liko to literally be Ash 2.0, and would have been upset at her for doing pretty much anything that Ash wouldn't have done.

Hey remember when Ash had flaws when he first started out as Trainer. Granted most of them was because he was a weak Trainer, and was arrogant of his skills, but he eventually overcame those problems. It's interesting that Liko is apparently a skilled Trainer, as she defeated Roy in her first battle, and defeated Conia's Golduck no problem. Liko's major flaw is that she wants to make people happy, as she let Roy win the Gym Challenge, and forfeit her battle so she wouldn't make the Gym Trainer feel bad about losing. Granted, maybe her Sprigatito is actually strong and Liko is just skating by on her Pokemon's strength. Either way, Liko needs to learn not to hold back because of people's feelings, otherwise she is hurting her potential, and she is only going to let down her Sprigatito, who already looks like it's starting to get fed up with Liko. I wonder if that's going to go anywhere?

"Ash would never do that" *ignores Ash threw his match against Brock twice, threw his match against Sabrina, literally threw a match so a Paras can evolve*

the thing is ash did give up. especially when he was just starting out. he gave up for basically the same reason when fighting brock,

To be honest, this episode kinda personally hit me as I'm a bit of a people-pleaser myself, with a long log of times I give up (either myself or my things) just for happiness of another person. That isn't to say I wasn't interested in this series or character earlier, but now I'm simply even more interested in Liko's journey. I really like how this series puts greater focus on emotions of trainers. It's one of the things I see a pretty big potential in within world of Pokémon, even trying my hand a bit at capturing it in my fanfic (which only really uses the world rather than characters), albeit it never really got far outside of 7 chapters resting in my drawer. Maybe I should finally get back to it. >_>

Also Media with the POV character being well a doormat at first and showcasing why you shouldn't be one. Is really rare and I appreciate the anime team for making her character this way.

I have no problem with this episode since Liko is getting some good character development.

I am glad this episode addressed this flaw. She learned from it and will carry that lesson with her. This is only the 2nd time Liko did something like this and i believe it will be the last because the lesson was learned. She shows early signs of being a good battler, so I don't see her going down a non battle route. I know there are a few people who think she won't be a battler because they only want Roy to be a battler or because she is a girl or because of what happened in the last episode. Ep 20 was for character development, that's why they made Liko do what she did and I don't believe they will write her doing that again. They gave Liko potential at battling and gave her a partner who's always up for a battle and never shys away from it. With these things in mind, I just don't see pokemon making her a non battle trainer.

Imagine hating an inexperienced 10 year old kid because of her flaws? Lol! Liko is just getting started to learn the ways of life. Have patience and let her grow. Please don't compare him to another 10 year old kid with 26 years of experience.

She just started becoming a trainer. She is a different character, who will react like...herself. I am glad she is growing as a character, and its something I relate to as an emotional person or "people pleaser". And working on that, being aware of that...I hope she can keep pushing. ❤😊

While I think it has been confirmed that she forfeit to save the feelings of the other Trainer, I more like to look at it as, perhaps she really doesn't like battling. Not every Trainer is a battler, or a Co-ordinator, or a Performer, etc... I'm looking foward to seeing if she can find her own path, and what she wants to do in life.

OG pokemon fans dont understand character development cause ash barely had any lol

That’s a good lesson for kids to learn, respect between competitors, that it’s not just about who wants to win the most but the challenge therein. For someone who takes a more relaxed approach to life and wants to help others improve it’s tricky being in an advantageous role as well as a disadvantageous one. Now that the opponent’s true motivation is understood they can get more out of a hard-fought defeat.

Pokemon fans are used to cardboard protagonists that the second a character has flaws to be overcame in an arc they throw a hissy fit

Lmao, Imagine being so used to vanilla that even a slight deviation pisses you off 😂😅

it's weird how people got triggered, it was clear that behavior was just a learning opportunity, and that's just the base of the building that is Liko's Great trainer personality.

The single most controversial episode of Pokémon Horizons BY FAR (unless this week's episode overtakes it if a certain event doesn't occur). I am actually happy that this turning point happened. Well, OBVIOUSLY, as a viewer, I was upset when Liko just stopped the battle but as someone who observes this stuff a lot, I believe this wasn't just a random out of nowhere occurrence. Even back at the beginning with episode 1 & 2 (especially episode 2), Liko was already not great in communicating her actual feelings to others (like her shared love for Nidothing.) because she is a bit of an introvert and even this seemed like Liko not wanting to bother others. When surrendering herself to Amethio, this was absolutely her trying to protect others (the Rising Volt Tacklers and the Brave Asagi) but we all saw how things backfired by the very end of the episode with her LOSING Sprigatito. (That was still a crazy way to end episode 2). Already, the signs of her flaws were there and I am rooting for her character to grow and overcome her personal weaknesses over time. Roy certainly has his OWN weaknesses to overcome but see, they are basically apples and oranges but share ONE thing in common: The connection between the Pendant and the Ancient Pokeballs (and by extension, connecting and becoming friends with Friede and the other members. Heck, it was Liko who really tried to get Dot to come out of her shell a bit more and we saw the positive impact that had) And I think its actually interesting how episode 20 handled this particular situation and it directly goes into what appears to be happening in episode 21 (The Lonely Hatenna) so perhaps, this is really the big turning point for Liko's character and no matter what happens next, I will be there for the ride from start to finish! Great analysis!

Riko is a character that is too kinder, and that is because she's still a novice trainer. She started her journey for a few time now, she doesn't want to battle if is not necessary and also she wants to make other happy more then herself. Her flaws are necessary for her to grow as someone that would reach a goal someday, we are still on episode 20 so is too soon to say how much she would become on the next 50 episodes, Horizons is doing a better job on character development more then the whole Ash saga.

I like the way Liko was handled in this episode, but at the same time I feel a little burnt out since we’ve seen the “kind-hearted pokégirl with no dreams archetype we’ve seen with Serena, Lillie, & Chloe

People need to chill The people getting triggered over this need to go cure cancer and be productive or something it’s not that serious 😅

I understand the fact that Liko is a newbie at pokemon battles, that is why we should give her some slack because she is a PROTAGONIST. We fans should respect the storywriting of the pokemon anime team because at the first place this is a Shonen/Shoujo series that develops the main character throughout the the episodes. I just want you all to remember that Ash wasn't a very perfect pokemon trainer, he may be the fan favorite and the worlds strongest pokemon champion, but he is not perfect and was a very bratty individual in his early series. That is why I believe in Liko and Roy filling the shoes of Ash, making the pokemon anime a very relevant series for a long time

It’s almost like good characters need to develop so they need to have flaws

...yep...ever since Liko made that mistake, a “NOT so nice” part of The AniPoke Community started to diss on Liko to the point of Hating Her &/OR This Pokemon Series entirely...again. REALIZING & LEARNING from Your mistakes counts as Character Development. Theyr'e complaining about she doesn't know the "Don't pity me. Give your actual all. Let's have a good Battle" speech. She just learned that Lesson IN THAT EPISODE! Emphasis on "just learned that IN THAT EPISODE!" Liko is still A Starting Young Trainer you know? Ash WAS a newbie, Red WAS a newbie, I WAS a newbie, WE WERE Newbies before! Would they prefer to be judged the same if they did mistakes similar to this back then? That Episode became controversial for NO good reason. It’s just One of those days 😓😓😓😓😓

This moment is Liko’s version of Ash stomping Casey’s entire team with his Charizard

sir, please do not predict what i am thinking

Liko is human. she has flaws, she's young and makes mistakes. no one is perfect. I stand by Liko. no she shouldnt have done quit the match but she will learn from it.

The new episode confirmed that Liko takes other's feelings into consideration and forgets about her own, she even caught a pokémon that does the same, Hateenna, I'm interested in seeing how this will play out. Liko is no Ash, she's her own character with her own strength and weaknesses, she's still at the beginning of her journey

I love the Hauever cuts. Hau just vibin like "Yup!"

Idk I feel like, THAT is Liko's personality. Which definitely is different than Ash. She has never had any goals apart from finding the truth about the pendant. I can understand her, when you see someone passionate about something, sometimes you just cant help but want to help them or give it to them because they want/need it more. But Liko IS learning, she's basically just started her journey recently (She's practically still using Leafage 🤣). She now sees the effect of her intention to other people and Sprigatito. I love to see her not figuring it all out like instantly or quickly. That is called GROWTH and Character development. We can see that she and Roy even Dot, are learning slowly one thing at a time to become better trainer which I think something Ash lacked. Because of how disjointed it felt sometimes from one episode to another during his time. Besides, Liko is willing to change to improve her ways so that's definitely a good lesson to be learned. I love this episode btw 😆

I like it when characters make me feel something. I'm excited to see where things go and see more character growth.

I have a looong history with enjoying Ash's Pokémon journey, and I personally LOVED that we saw Liko forfeit the battle. Because when I was a kid, I always got confused whenever I watched anime and a battling character would go "You better not hold back! I won't forgive you!". Especially to a close friend. My juvenile understanding of competitions was that losing is the worst feeling there is, and I would never impose that on someone that needed a win more than I did. If I really wanted to win something, I would be happy to know that my opponent took my feelings into account and let me have that victory. However, THIS EPISODE helped explain something that I only learned way later in life: Many people will not enjoy a handed victory, because it's not a testamanet to their own skills. There is a unique sense of joy and accomplishment to compete in something you have trained hard for, and come out victorious. Of course Liko, who is unfamiliar with the culture of pokémon-battles and who has a predisposition of being empathetic and giving to people, thought that she gave Wakaba what she wanted. Kabu's lesson was insightful without berating Liko for doing something she genuinely thought was out of kindness. It's the sort of lesson that was missing from when I grew up with the anime, and I'm glad we can have a protagonist that can grow from this experience.

I haven't even Seen the episode but this description makes me Love Liko even more. It's a very relatable idea, and I love what they did with it.

I think this indecisiveness of Liko is somehow gonna change when Sprigatito evolves into Floragato and starts to ignore Liko (like when Ash's Charmender evolved into Charmeleon). After finally realising her flaw and what Floragato will want I think she will finally become a more determined character.

I actually really like Liko's personality and I find it very cute

Thank you for another great video Charles! Hope you and Wei Wei are doing well! I look forward to your next video

I LOVED THE FACT SHE SURRENDERED, I was whole episode sitting there scared that with power of friendship Liko is gonna overcome 4x type weakness to Kabu pokemon. Thankfully since Kabu is a powerful gym leader he clearly avoided attacking liko's spriggatito after dealing one hit. He knew she had no chance against him. Then he let her fight his student she was also a rookie trainer like Liko but had type advantage and I would still be disappointed in writing if Liko won with out the evolution handicap. But it was to fast for Spriggatito to evolve for me. And then she wanted to be nice to her opponent and not obstrucked her dreams so Liko who still doesn't understand what pokemon battles really mean surrendered out of her good heart. To ppl who were mad. They cannot lie to us. Let's be real everyone used option to run away from a fight at least once in their pokemon adventure.

Liko is a great mc she might have more talent then goh lmao her sprigatito is op

Didn't ash did the same thing one time when he fought against a paras, trying to help it gain exp? He kept holding back on purpose for it to win. But that was only one time.

Ash's resilience was there from the start, but his lack of experience early on in his journey was very clear. He did a somewhat similar thing during his rematch with Brock: Throwing in the towel when he felt the win wasn't legitimately earned. BUT, was also thinking about Brock's siblings and how they felt. (Ash and Pikachu's synergy wasn't always perfectly aligned either. They had the connection and potential, but they grew together.) Liko is still at the start of her story, clumsiness climbing up the hill is to be expected. What matters is what she takes from this experience and applies it going forward towards her goal.

She has a flaw to work on which makes her a normal 10 year old girl. Ash also has a problem with his mindset going into a match, and it's not a one off thing. Her problem is that she's already competent enough in battles, but she has the sense of responsibility to hold herself back in order to spare her opponents' feelings, therefore disappointing her own Pokemon. There might be more flaws that will rear its ugly head around in the future, same with Roy's. If Pokefans have survived Ash in OS, it's very easy to tolerate Liko. People are just so impatient.

well said, cant wait to see where they go with Liko's character. Ash was a kid you enjoyed watching grow as the series progressed from a cocky upstart kid to a respectful leader you just had to follow. I enjoyed your analysis and look forward to the next breakdown

Ofc liko would be different from ash and have different flaws bc she's NOT ash she's a NEW protagonist and arguably the polar opposite of him she's not supposed to be ash or surpass ash she's supposed to be herself and currently she's an introveted people pleaser which is pretty rough to deal with but that's the point if you think about it she's uniquely flawed and she'll work it out and grow into a better person

@0:23-0:31 Lmfao , Why Is That So Damn Funny . 😂😂😂

Guess what i have waited for a someone like Liko i love her and i dont care what people think

While I get why fans would be mad, I actually get why Liko did this from a personal standpoint. Not trying to be an apologist about it, but I understand the pain of the people-pleaser as I can relate.

Another issue is some fans is expecting an Ash clone character. Or just never wanted Ash to leave the anime altogether. End of the day, Liko is her character with her imperfections and deserves time and patience to grow

Fuecoco seems to be stronger & stronger, looking forward to it evolve!

Watch your language, Liko! This is a family-show!

Anyone remember that time Ash got several badges without battling?

Kindness isn't a Flaw it's actually a Trait that you inherit from your own parents which isn't a bad thing! Kindness can go either way Good or Bad because certain people can use your own kindness to take advantage of which is the downside of being Kindhearted! Being taken advantage of being Kindhearted can happen to everyone which is a part of a Life Lesson! Liko will eventually realize that her own kindness can be used against her which she'll need to find another way to become stronger and remain the kindhearted side of herself!

This is common for the anime, the new characters just got there and they haven't grown as trainers yet🤷‍♀️. Heck, rewatch every generation. Even season 1 Ash wasn't as good as he was later on. Even the new characters added per generation had to grow as a trainer.

If they hate her for that, they dont understand the character, as an introvert, she is putting others feelings over her own. Sometimes thats a good trait and sometimes it does wrong, Liko needs to learn that lesson and she is on her way to do so. Horizons is presenting actual growth instead of a badge with artificial progression.

1: Oh no, characters actually have the potential to grow 😭(like shush) 2: THIS ISNT ABOUT ASH PEOPLE

I really like Liko the way she is, i like her so much more than Ash.. like i don’t even miss him didn’t even cry with his goodbye tbh 😅 so i’m sure Liko will grow as a character and i’m ok with that, as long as she won’t be turned into Ash 0.1

I believe fans must take time to waiting the Liko best moments. We know Ash is now a past stuff and he only will appears in special episodes.

Wow, pokemon fans are mad? Such a shocker

People really need to stop comparing Liko to Ash. They are 2 very different characters. Ash is outgoing, loves to battle, and very goal driven. Liko is timid, a people pleaser, and very observate. I really love that episode because it a highlight of Liko character devolopment, who falling behind to the other characters like Roy. Liko is a great character and I can relate to her so much. I don't get the hate for her at all.

It's been forever since I followed the Pokemon anime (stopped watching after Battle Frontier). I don't have time to watch it but I'm glad to watch these occasional episode recaps. From the sounds of it, the new season is headed off in very interesting directions and I think people will really grow to love the new protagonists. They already seem just as nuanced and multi-dimensional as Ash.

Character: “Has very obvious flaw that’s meant to introduce character development” Pokemon fans: “How dare you.” “Ash would never do this” is wild to me because I wouldn’t want to a carbon copy of the character we’ve had for 25+ years.

I have a feeling the upcoming episode 21 will be the start of Liko's development in the right direction

Liko is the Next Great Gen that Really is Something New and we All can Learn to Love.

I actually understand the urge to not hurt people it would probably be my flaw if i was a trainer

Love this video dude.

Liko will become the GOAT. Thanks for bringing up the memory of Prima, lol.

I wasn't upset about Liko in this episode actually. I just started to get the impression that Roy was the main protagonist instead of Liko. Roy is like the new Ash and he's stealing the spotlight because he won this challenge (Liko let him win but okay), does an impressive fight against two gym leaders with zero real experience, catches a second pokémon before Liko does, has a hero attitude, fuecoco learns moves up and down etc. Meanwhile Liko is still in her character development arc and that's not an issue. In fact, that's great! But there's very little focus on it given the fact that Roy is running the show right now. Can't put the main character on the backburner like that folks. But I feel like the episodes that came after fixed that issue a little.

I got really attached to liko immediately because of her flaws, I find her pretty relatable and makes the anime feel more real and immersive, sure I was a little mad when she forfeited, I cant say that I didn’t do that myself before

I feel like this also showed the duality between Liko and Nyaoha, with Liko being too empathetic and Nyaoha very proud and competing, and somewhat prepares for episode 21 where Liko meets a Pokemon who is very much like her.

it makes me think that Liko has grew little by little... and she somehow gets mature for a young kid

Getting angry that a 10 year old kid makes stupid mistakes is more idiotic than the actions of said 10 year old. 😂 Niko's bad move came from good intentions. She just failed to understand that her actions would have the opposite effect than what she was intending. She's young, and somewhat naive. Of course she is going to make mistakes. Everyone does. It's being given the opportunity to learn from her mistakes that will help her grow.

Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, i can see where people are coming from, but I think their reaction was exactly as intended from the Episode, When you have a well written Character, this can just be part of course sometimes and it’s going to be very interesting to see how things develop from here.

wait so people are upset... about the flaw in the character... that is called out within a minute of it happening? and because it's something unique from ash, who has had decades in the spotlight?

I personally like it, show us that shes flawed and not a one dimensional character And most important for me, no one in the episode was praising her decision, the opposite actually, so... I dont get the hate If they want perfect gary stu characters... Good for them i guess

For me it would depend if the story treats it as a character flaw, cause Ash being a hothead was treated as a flaw and would often get humbled by others like Brock in their 1st battle.

people simply have no memory, that is all.

4:05 I'm glad I'm not the only one whomstve has that opinion

lmao i think you're all forgetting that Ash did the same thing by forfeiting when he battled against brock, fanbase that complained needs to get a grip and remember this show is designed for kids to show them that winning isn't everything

NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!

Holy shit, characters can learn Growth? Shit, and here I am stuck with all 4 moveslots of mine being Rest.

I wonder how people would have reacted if she already know what she wanted to do. They’d probably say that she’s taking things to fast but I’m glad that she’s taking things slow because if she already knew then that wouldn’t make her that interesting and would make her like everybody else. And I understand she felt like for fitting because she didn’t want to hurt someone feelings but continuing the battle she would know her flaws that she needs to fix but for fitting now she feels like theirs nothing she can do and she is a bad trainer.

I hope Liko doesn't end up like Steven, but I hope Amethio ends up like Peridot.

Hope, today. She can caught her second pokemon. Otherwise, this episode will be another major flop and thus have to another five to ten episode for that.

I think what pissed fans off was the fact that we know how capable Liko is when it comes to a fight and that paired with the fact that her first strategy in any conflict is to dash out of there. It's just the first time we saw this trait of her in a fight so people probs didn't notice till now.

I can't believe people are pissed off This is what people call good writing and also a good lesson for to much kind ppl too. I think Pokémon fans forget that the anime is for children.

Not to mention early Ash had some sick burns!! 😂

Wakaba... isn't she from Battle Report? Or Battle Story, was it? @_@

No I am not mad

Maybe Battling might not her thing. Maybe she'd like doing something else that isn't Gym Battles or Contest or Catching.

By the way, speaking of ReBurst. Ever heard of Rosen Garten Saga?

Can we go *one* video about Horizons where Ash isn't mentioned whatsoever? (not targeting you, it's just a general statement) Also, yeah, Liko "losing" battles to seem nice and above others is DEFINITELY narcissistic.

Liko is literally an introvert I bet she will develop well