Pokemon CHANGED Booster Bundles With Temporal Forces...Did They Change Pull Rates as Well?

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2 ай бұрын

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Temporal Forces, the newest Main Series Pokemon Card Set is scheduled to release on Friday March 22nd, and already a lot of buzz is going on about Temporal Forces Pull Rates. While it used to be fairly simple to Pull Hyper Rare Pokemon Cards and Special Illustration Rare Pokemon Cards, it seems like Pokemon has changed their Pull Rates as Scarlet and Violet has continued making it harder and harder to complete a Pokemon Card Master Set.
While the jury is still out on Pull Rates, one thing that has for sure changed is the Temporal Forces Booster Bundle. Unlike Temporal Forces Elite Trainer Boxes, booster bundles contain only 6 Pokemon Card Booster Packs without any filler. Much more similar to a smaller Temporal Forces Booster Box. The new layout and look may be more appealing to the eye, but do these produce the same luck as other Temporal Forces Products? Let's talk a look!
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@whiskybravo4648 2 ай бұрын

That’s disappointing, my kid likes those old style booster boxes to carry her cards around. They were great holding sleeved cards too.

@sleggarlaw4740 2 ай бұрын

Buy her a deck box

@FirstLightZero 2 ай бұрын

I was really looking forward to Temporal Forces' release. The set has some of my favorite artworks of the SV era so far including on just C/UC cards (Golurk, Shaymin, Victini to name a few) but the opening experience has really soured my opinion. I thought at the very least that this set would match the pull rates of Paradox with hitting what felt like either 1 SIR or hyper rare per booster box. That felt like an appropriate balance to me. Rare enough that it felt like you hit big when you got one, but not so hard to get that you need to break the bank. I'm not a fan at all that TEF has seemingly taken yet another step backwards. I've opened 4 BB so far and although I got exactly 14 hits out of each, I only got 1 SIR total out of all 4. Its quite interesting to me that with pull rates like this the preorder prices of the huge hitter cards aren't higher. I thought there'd be at least 1 or 2 that were over the $100 mark. Either way, probably not going to be opening much more if any of this set for a good while. On one hand, its nice to have a little break to focus on filling out my collection of other sets, but I really would have loved TEF to have been a better opening experience too.

@dubbzcw5189 2 ай бұрын

Walmart Crown Zenith was the first time I saw this design of booster box.

@Plaxiea 2 ай бұрын

that’s how the crown zenith bundles look

@Freddilicious3 2 ай бұрын

The hangers make sense, but I like the other boxes, I use them all as cheap deck boxes for all my random decks I make and have sitting around

@markplatt2611 2 ай бұрын

Getting rid of the storage box is a terrible idea

@Dylan_Leafstorm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for pulling this data together, really helps!

@PokeNewbie 2 ай бұрын

That's a shame pull rates seem nerfed.

@fireballgaming345 2 ай бұрын

I always thought the booster bundles were perfect size. It looks like 3 times the size now.

@martygillespie4138 2 ай бұрын

I actually saw the crown zenith bundles that looked like these at Walmart. I grabbed the 2 they had left and they scanned at self checkout for $5 each! Somebody messed up 😂

@ericdallman7271 2 ай бұрын

which walmart? lol

@JessicaPoonWoo 2 ай бұрын

wow bargain!

@TheMagista88 2 ай бұрын

Glad to be skipping this set from opening. Will just buy singles. I am not wasting my money opening packs. Pokeco can suck my deek and milk deez nutz instead.

@codyjamidon9319 2 ай бұрын

Also seen the cz bundles like that but they certainly weren't five dollars lol

@nightowl7261 2 ай бұрын

Did you pull anything nice tho?

@thepokecorner 2 ай бұрын

Some people mentioned the size change might be to help reduce shrink in stores. Not sure if it's true

@Thurblife 2 ай бұрын

Hey phanny, long time follower, new chatter. Fellow LGS owner here and the reason they changed it in my opinion is because they looked so similar to build and battles. Thats always one of the questions i get asked in store when people see my build and battle kits they ask me if they are booster bundles. Maybe changing the shape was to give it a unique product identity. Hope this helps, keep up the awesome work my man!

@kennymorelandiii9406 2 ай бұрын

But didn't they not do a build box for Temporal Forces? That makes sense as incan see why some would get confused but if they aren't doing those anyways why change it now?

@NevTheStampede 2 ай бұрын

these bundles look to be in the same style as the walmart crown zenith bundles

@Kaikkster 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for always keeping us in the loop as much as you can!

@jboi801 2 ай бұрын

I don’t get why Pokemon had to add more packaging to only 6 booster packs . The small booster bundle was so perfect

@nightowl7261 2 ай бұрын

They didn't want to give us free deck boxes So they decided to make these booster bundles trashy looking. Now you get your boosters, but can't use it for a deck box.

@aogames_ 2 ай бұрын

Good video! Looks like the new packaging holds the packs in place a bit better, though I could be wrong. Could be a possible reasoning to change packaging

@itsame4373 2 ай бұрын

Wow! Felt like most pulled fire at our pre-release. Thought the pull rates would be way better. 😅

@cameleonxxl8456 2 ай бұрын

Hi! New to pokemon cards but i was thinking to start collecting some cards. I'm living in Iceland and so far i could find only Temporal Forces and Paldean Fates. Witch one would you recommend i should start with or to wait for a new collection? Much appreciate it!

@justua1992 2 ай бұрын

it's like chilling rain but with less chase cards 😅

@Smokin_Reds 2 ай бұрын

I opened two booster boxes and pulled the Bianca sir, raging bolt sir, gastly ir, litten ir. those where my favorite pulls and the gastly and litten are my most wanted ir cards so I was super happy about that! guess I got lucky getting sir in both my booster boxes. I pulled a bunch of other stuff but that was my highlights for my taste!

@TrickedJacen 2 ай бұрын

So far from what I hit in a small opening from my LGS, I’ve been hitting the average pull rates although my booster box had two IR instead of three but I had packs from two three pack blisters that made up with two IRs and an Ace Specs. Haven’t hit gold yet.

@gariantippetts684 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking one for the team Danny, I’ve opened 2 booster boxes and I pulled: 2 SIRs, 4 IRs, 5 FAs, 4 ACEs, and 12 DRs. Happy with my boxes, sorry yours have been rough 🫡

@jakemorgan8275 2 ай бұрын

I love the old style booster bundles. I put bulk in those and then put the bundles in an etb when I sell my bulk. What the heck pokemon!

@DunkinDLam 2 ай бұрын

The only positive that came out of the production of the S/V set is that the prices of the singles in these sets has become affordable to buy singles of. I've found that waiting a few weeks, I can just buy the 5-6 hits I really want for ym collection still lower than the price of the booster box

@Kosukie 2 ай бұрын

Idk if it's all over, just in Canada or just at my walmart, but they have all ETBs on for $60 CAD. I picked up 2 Paldea Evolved ETBs to put away for a rainy day. :3

@Lqqkas 2 ай бұрын

My box was really good in terms of quality and quantity but I didn’t get any of my chases unfortunately. I got an SAR walking Wake, gold iron boulder, hero’s cape & reboot pod ace specs, full art Gengar & full art Eri. For IRs I got bronzor, cinccino & Reuniclus and 6 regular art EXs. There are definitely good boxes out there but of course it’s always a gamble.

@JosephTramm 2 ай бұрын

wow. pull rates look to be a little better than 1 hit in every 3 packs but a bit of a bummer to see more towards the regular ex. My son got pretty lucky and pulled the Gouging Fire SIR at the pre-release

@Trvpcohol 2 ай бұрын

CANT WAIT TO CRACK THIS SET

@LordAmun 2 ай бұрын

the only reason i can think for the change is for shipping but i hate those new boxes. i liked how you could use the old boxes to store cards.

@cautionfun 2 ай бұрын

Yes!! Part of the allure for me was the self-storage. Not a fan of the change!

@dspokemoncards6184 2 ай бұрын

I have noticed that from the boosters ive opened you either get the crappy booster more than likely that comes with 2 full art pokemon and 1 full art trainer or you get the good booster box sometimes that comes with 1 gold card and 2 full art pokemon and 1 sar card

@smilecomet6814 2 ай бұрын

Honestly i wonder if the changed the box look because it looked so similar to the build n battles, at a card store i work at people get them confused so easily.

@GetINYurBall 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Danny, that was a bit rough. Appreciate it

@julietbausemer 2 ай бұрын

I have 8 of the CZ bundles that are the same size. Due to CZ not having a booster box I think of 6 of these as close to a BB as possible.

@themetalguy9693 2 ай бұрын

The low pull-rates of this set are definitely a let down. I've heard from multiple people opening multiple cases of BB that SIRs and Hyper Rares are significantly more rare in this set compared to the last. I completely agree that Paradox Rift felt like a better middle-ground for pull-rates.

@rafethomas9126 2 ай бұрын

Wow, that was kinda rough. I bought a single pack of Cyber Justice and ended up getting an Ace Spec (the one that looks like a gas pump).

@Frosty2014 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the content Danny!! God bless you and the family!!

@charlie_5ive 2 ай бұрын

Really helpful as usual. Will definitely open less with the adjustment to pull rates

@MCWordicus 2 ай бұрын

Its probably just to make people think bigger box = more packs, or to differentiate booster bundle/build and battle.

@Robdub2024 2 ай бұрын

I hope the deerling / sawbuck combo art work is a strong indicator of a return to the Legendary card combos like Raikiu and Suicune from 2010s!

@le_med 2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by master set? Do you mean all reverses holos and rares etc or just the base cards?

@pengidabeast 2 ай бұрын

My favorite artwork in a while for a set, actually beautiful!

@icymango626 2 ай бұрын

Pull rates do indeed look tough, probably just going to pikc up one or 2 singles from this set 😅

@christopheryoung2042 2 ай бұрын

I picked up a bunch of this style but for Crown Zenith

@TeddyCWT 2 ай бұрын

Hard for master collectors but it’s nice for the poketraders keeps the market alive I think they might do that with the next few iteration’s going forward for this reason. Tbh the scarlet and violet series we’ve had it kind of easy with what you can pull…I think it’s just swings and roundabouts

@SegaDisneyUniverse 2 ай бұрын

I opened my first booster box the other day and got 2 illustrations, 2 full arts, 1 Ace a bunch of regular exs' and no special illustrations! This is definitely going to be a very rough set.😅

@ericdallman7271 2 ай бұрын

I just got into the TCG, thinking of making this set my first Box purchase. Maybe one to open and one to hold on to

@Agent_Osito 2 ай бұрын

I bought a few Crowne Zenith booster bundles that looked just like this

@houachang1614 2 ай бұрын

I rip 648 temporal forces packs, total of 3 cases booster box. There was a total of 4 sir hit. This set will be hard to master.

@kennymorelandiii9406 2 ай бұрын

Dang so it does seem to be roughly 1 sir per 4 booster boxes. That's rough

@user-pw3vv8oq2w 2 ай бұрын

Oof that seems really low. I thought me pulling 3 sirs out of a case was bad but 4 in 3 cases is just a money waste.

@Dwellic 2 ай бұрын

@@user-pw3vv8oq2w damn, guess I was lucky to get the one i did when I bought 2 booster boxes.

@TheRegB 2 ай бұрын

I open a case of booster boxes only 1 sir out of a case seeing a lot of other people get the same while opening

@SithCommando236 2 ай бұрын

I like to get one of each product that comes out for a new set, but I'll definitely focus on buying singles after my initial opening.

@kennymorelandiii9406 2 ай бұрын

It's strange because usually they try and shrink down how much cardboard and stuff they use it seems but they went backwards here

@Bruhtelho 2 ай бұрын

Opened a box and got no SIRs. There's no guarantee on the english boxes right?

@marijnnoorlander4613 2 ай бұрын

Great video as always 🔥

@sleggarlaw4740 2 ай бұрын

Got one yesterday. Seems like alot of box for 6 packs

@Dwellic 2 ай бұрын

bought one to get the gamestop promo. Only got a regular illustration rare and a normal ex

@JustACrumble 2 ай бұрын

I like the old booster bundle design over the new one

@levibyrnes1742 2 ай бұрын

Nice liking the pull rates. Sooo many regular ex cards

@gecooker 2 ай бұрын

I skipped Paldean Fates with the plan to attack Temporal Forces. I guess I need to take a pause for a bit and see where everything is at. Sort of glad I didn’t preorder yet.

@StevenNeoSayBin 2 ай бұрын

amazing video as always!

@StuSpice 2 ай бұрын

Personnaly, I will buy 2 ETBs and then just go after singles. Not going to jump onto many sealed products this time around. Just wish Pokemon wouldn’t release set after set. Perhaps take a little bit of time between releases. Haven’t even recovered from 151.

@swoopgg3720 2 ай бұрын

Not thrilled about the pull rates, already feel like the packs are expensive enough and the sets are so frequent. Struggling to get involved with the SV era

@raquelribeiro7473 2 ай бұрын

It's always good to know what the rate is like. Thanks for the video.

@scarr469 2 ай бұрын

These boxes reming of the crown zenith boxes that had 6 packs I believe I think it was a booster bundle I seen a couple of them at Walmart

@codyjamidon9319 2 ай бұрын

That was rough lol

@Xiviuz 2 ай бұрын

Watched your recent stream and you're not wrong about the pullrates. It looked painful

@Gary_1129 2 ай бұрын

Maybe the design change was cause the booster bundle looked very similar to build and battle box???

@ArturoGarcia007 2 ай бұрын

Problem is they're over printing now when there's not as much demand imo. When that happens, the quality control is bound to suffer.

@tcrilly9247 2 ай бұрын

I like the old boxes…I use them for cheap deck boxes when building decks.

@bryanessig6803 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait to open this new set!!

@LanzTheMaster 2 ай бұрын

I noticed cards in Booster Bundles had bad quality. Hopefully this fixes that

@rell660 2 ай бұрын

I think this is why this did it... The good thing is it'll make cards rare'er in 151. Heheheee

@justua1992 2 ай бұрын

i fully expect the value of this set to drop but slowly climb 151 handled the market pretty well tough set to beat

@changtcg Ай бұрын

Pokemon increased the price of their products and made the pull rate harder. My local Target is filled to the brim with hardly anyone touching them anymore.

@bhoop516 2 ай бұрын

Pokémon said oh you want to hoard the booster bundles as sealed box, bet. Hold this brown cardboard as a sealed box. They want their tcg to be that a TRADING CARDS GAME.

@robertm.presleyesq.8 2 ай бұрын

So I opened two booster box cases (12 boxes total). Missing 5 for a master set.

@chrisgates4235 2 ай бұрын

Don't believe you for a second 😂

@TheTimtwnsnd 2 ай бұрын

They had to differentiate it from the Build N Battles

@andrewnor4692 2 ай бұрын

Hmm maybe to protect the packs more 🤔

@michaelnorman8581 2 ай бұрын

They have a bunch of those for sword and shield sets even crown zenith

@buck2155 2 ай бұрын

Are these booster bundles comparable in pricing? Kind of silly to change to trash only packaging when previous could still be used as a cheap deckbox.

@NorseBound 2 ай бұрын

feel like i must have scored big with grabbing one booster and getting the eri SIR

@samersalama6275 2 ай бұрын

This set is going to be tough but I still think the price of singles will be similar to paradox.

@dwhirsh82 2 ай бұрын

Wow how many packs ripped to already be 4 cards from master set

@Beanz1321 2 ай бұрын

I love collecting. Just started last year and have s&v base set mastered and 151 just missing Blastoise and Venasaur SIR to master. I have been also trying to keep up with all s&v promos but am missing a few. Bad news is I have fallen on hard times and might have to sell my collection. I wish I could at least win this Master set and keep my shiny mew from PF that I will never get rid of that would be AMAZING. love your content and wish everyone the best!

@jandaskunk1 2 ай бұрын

Wow, started really good...and then went really cold..

@kylechampton 2 ай бұрын

I could tell pull rates we’re going to be tough

@chrisgates4235 2 ай бұрын

Interestingly enough the Pokémon center vending machines are stocking the original Booster bundle design for tbis set

@decluer 2 ай бұрын

Evolving skies type pull rates….interesting 🙃

@juanramos1710 2 ай бұрын

Honestly I would’ve been a little ticked that no SIR was pulled in all those packs but that’s the game I guess. Buying all the singles in like 3 months for sure

@pokechuck3625 2 ай бұрын

The packs are less damaged in these boxes Interesting if you want to keep mint packs in your sealed collection

@dustintheturkey.irelandsno6464 2 ай бұрын

The bundles are limited to 25 on pokemon centre. Assume this design change means anyone ordering 25 in future will just receive a full case. Rather than lose bundles

@theriptide27 2 ай бұрын

Dang. I was gonna snag a booster box ASAP… maybe not! I won’t be grabbing any bundles that’s for sure

@mybcro9291 2 ай бұрын

They save on the shipping? Could be one of the reasons.

@snorlore 2 ай бұрын

This might explain why I didn't get any hits in my pre-release.

@hans4266 2 ай бұрын

maybe it was changed due to the shipping costs. i imagine now its cheaper to ship.

@kevinujoodha5985 2 ай бұрын

Thats annoying... I started collecting booster bundles and im not a fan of this change in the appearance and packaging

@bhoop516 2 ай бұрын

IMO They made this specifically to stop you. They didn’t want people to collect the booster bundles. They want them to be an easy way to get a some packs without the collection box fluff, to be opened. I know they hated seeing the 151 bundles being scalped for double.

@kevinujoodha5985 2 ай бұрын

@@bhoop516 well there's a distinction between specialty sets and main series sets. Your point makes sense for specialty sets because up until 151, ya the only way to get packs was ancillary products. But main series sets has single packs that negate the need for booster bundles. 151 was just a special case because of the demand and popularity. Booster bundles have not/are not a problem other than that one set. Again, for specialty sets you may have a point because Pokemon has never had a way to get specialty sets for MSRP before but the booster bundles changed the game. But main series is differentt

@chrisgates4235 2 ай бұрын

I can get you one if you want 👌 they are still making them, I just bought a bundle from the vending machines and they were still the old school style

@salamander031 2 ай бұрын

awesome opening, liking this set. still doesn't beat 151 in my heart

@michaelnorman8581 2 ай бұрын

Need the trainer cards over the Pokémon for temporal forces the Salvatore cards is sick mortys conviction good too

@robertbushjr5947 2 ай бұрын

That was a pretty rough opening

@scottydosntkno08 2 ай бұрын

Id imagine they changed the packaging so vendors had more options, the bundles would end up all over the place

@mrkoolaidism 2 ай бұрын

I dont understand how anyone who is a legitimate collector could want hits to be rarer. The only logical reason for that is you want to sell the cards. It makes no sense and its really frustrating. At this rate by the next set it will be one SIR per case