Four years ago I put together my first vest and was told by my supervisor I was crazy. Now at least half of my shift has one in their car and they talk to new cadets in the academy about them as well. Like yours, I go very basic: 2-3 AR mags and a small med kit, identifier patch on the front and back, as well as a name patch front and back (left over from my Army days). Our crime rate here is higher than the boss likes to report to the city, so during my time spent as a training officer I too talked to new officers about why I have one and what to look for when they put one together. A great topic that needs to be covered, even if the brass wants to pretend the threat doesn't exist. Excellent topic.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Adam Crispin Teach them young'uns right. They are the ones who are going to have our backs when we are too old to po-lease.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+free field training ...and stay safe out there.
@carloshuerta30858 жыл бұрын
I carry a plate carries with level 4plates and a ar15 for my active shooter kit iam a nurse but active shooter tend to attack places that are unarmed
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Carlos Huerta thanks for watching!
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
"Go bags" are all the rage. But, might a hard armor plate carrier be a better option for patrol? Aimed at cops and higher end security but applicable to anyone who is worried about "active shooter" type situations. Let me know what you think.
@FLippssalot6 жыл бұрын
free field training where do you have this in your vehicle when patrolling? I was thinking having it accessible from driver seat so that I can put it on as I get to the trunk AR
@djturnz5 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine was responding to assist another officer. He was not responding under lights and sirens. A driver crossed the center line and hit him head on. Both vehicles were traveling at roughly 50mph. He was wearing a rifle plate (as he does all the time) when his chest hit the steering wheel hard enough to break the steering column. The plate broke 4 ribs, but saved his life.
@EnfieldScout6 жыл бұрын
The security agency I work for has just purchased Level 3 plate carriers for all supervisory field officers. I love watching this channel, so full of valuable information.
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
+Matt Hewett glad you like it.
@EdHamlin8 жыл бұрын
It's clear after San Bernardino that having protection for the terrorist/active shooter(s)is a necessity for those who are in LEO, and other org's. I'd even suggest for those who are retired and CCW holders.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. In fact, in some parts of the world putting a ballistic panel into child's backpack or sewn into a business man's jacket is fairly common practice.
@willm6878 жыл бұрын
+Ed Hamlin i am in some ways happy that were a little bit safer here in australia seeing as tho a terrorist/criminal has less access to full auto assault rifles and carbines and even lesser access to kevlar vest and plate carriers. our 96 gun ban was useless criminals will always have access to firearms wether its legal or not its called a black market
@55varian8 жыл бұрын
+Will M If they want it they will get it. No matter how many laws you pass... Unless you form a government like seen off of the Hunger Games..
@TheExperts10006 жыл бұрын
Will M Civilians don't have acces to assualt rifles. They do however, hV access to semi auto only versions that are nkt select fire
@nonameguy965 жыл бұрын
@@willm687 cmon man are you serious. American cannot get full autos like u make it seem. Semi auto version of said rifles yes. Full auto no.
@SecurityZone13 жыл бұрын
I love watching your video's you come up with a lot of good tips and ideas to best help us in the industry make change for the better long run! Also just the fact that when you talk about these situations you speaker for Police & Security you actually show us Security Officers respect and I really like that about you keep them coming man, I'm subscribed to you and i press like to all your video's whenever you come out with a new one my phone will notify me to go watch it anyway thanks a million and be safe!
@gutlessband58257 жыл бұрын
Sweet video. Really dig this kind of stuff. Would love to see more. Keep it up.
@the_boatswain5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I ran a ton of extra ammo when I was deployed, but that was mission profile. My active shooter kit contains much less ammo, I carry two 30r mags like yourself. But color, appearance, shape, etc of how your kit setup speaks a lot. It might be odd to say that, but there's always the balancing act of operational prudence versus public opinion in the aftermath of a shooting. I try to carry what I 100% need but not in such a way that it makes me look like the loadout of my Chris Costa action figure....
@bearsuo17598 жыл бұрын
Took your advice, it's a good trade off indeed. For me the added bonus of splitting the weight while wearing a backpack makes the investment worth it. Subbed.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Joe B I'm glad it helped! I'm in the middle of a project testing out using 6x8 steel rifle plates in my external carrier. They give a little less area but weigh the same as the poly plates and can stay in all the time. Here's the link you might find it interesting kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJelfd1-xLWzo40.html It is kind of a work in progress right now.
@SgtOli8 жыл бұрын
Good job. Thank you for making this video....exactly what I am looking for. Trying to get something together for my vehicle in case of active shooter, road rage, etc. Definitely want to take advantage that we can, and put POLICE front and back.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+SgtOli Glad you liked it. Be safe out there.
@echojacobs8 жыл бұрын
I have a GO bag in my patrol car, but in all reality, it's useless. When you try and reload from that thing, it's slow as hell and not practical. Yeah, you bring gun to the fight, but no protection. I'll go with your idea!
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. Be safe out there.
@DarkFire5156 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. For departments that allow patrol rifles (most now I would imagine), having a plate carrier that can go over the top of a 3 / 3a vest along with a helmet is becoming more and more important. I'd set a PC up exactly as you've done: a couple of extra AR mags plus a trauma kit.
@damondent19322 жыл бұрын
Great video learned a lot Tommy I'm retired now but still have my carrier you never know whats gonna happen be prepared.
@Moheezy6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!! Im putting together my vest right now. I work for a private security firm in a town where local LEO's are under a little too much scrutiny. They even look the other way when we do 10-20mph over to respond to a call. Gotta stay safe in the streets!
@anraegodley-cooper63218 жыл бұрын
Those Surefire 60 round mags are pretty cool I have use 1 instead of coupling 2 30 round mags like I did in the past, just passing on a Blessing some other Brothers passed on to me, Thanks again, Blessings.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Anrae Godley-Cooper Really, I've had only problems with the surefire 60 I tried.
@usmpshaft8 жыл бұрын
Oh OK.
@lupusvenator47017 жыл бұрын
Re-visited this video after a few months. It's been proven that rifle mags can actually stop rifles fire...so adding a 3-across magazine holder can add extra protection from rifle fire, so you may rethink your carrier set up in the front. Just something else to think about. Good to see you again!
@lupusvenator47017 жыл бұрын
Oh...and open top mag pouches have been shown to be a "no-go" in most military units.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Lupus Venator gpod thing I'm not jumping out of an areoplane.
@lupusvenator47017 жыл бұрын
Lol...well it was the dropping out during firefights that shut them down...but I see your point...
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Lupus Venator We used these extensively with swat and I've personally done yard to yard searches hopping 20-30 fences in an hour. Never had any problem. That's about the limits of my expected physical activity with the open top mag pouches. Thise particular pouches are pretty secure as long as you seat the mag all the way to the bottom. Some guys even run them upside down.
@jtmonsman6 жыл бұрын
I know it’s old, but Ya know what I like most about this vid? It’s real. You didn’t waste your money on a blood type patch. I don’t know about other areas, but here in NE Ohio, if you need blood after a trauma, you’re getting o negative, regardless of what your patch says. Not knocking anyone who has the blood type patch, but since the consequence for it being inaccurate may be death, no trauma docs are going to take your plate carriers word for it!
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
I've wondered about people who do that too. If the plate carrier makes it to where the doc can see it something has gone radically wrong in the world. I can't even fathom a circumstance inside the US where that would occur.
@yoepix6 жыл бұрын
Like your rig. Simple and has the essentials without too much extra weight. Thanks for sharing.
@gregc1074 жыл бұрын
My only question is that if this is a "get gone situation" (Go Bag needed) where is your water, fire start, and food just in case you really need to go? I think I agree with you that carrying a third to half your body weight is not an option. I also like that you are sort of minimalist in that duty setup.
@juniormolina128 жыл бұрын
That Trauma kit is perfect man!
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+juniormolina12 It is indeed. The link for it is in the description. Be advised though that is sticks out a little more than a double mag pouch, so if space is limited, esp. If you are using polyethylene plates that are already pretty thick, that med kit can stick quite a ways out there in front of you. I have a hard time driving with it on. Works great otherwise though.
@juniormolina128 жыл бұрын
+free field training Right, I see what you're saying. With all the gear on I'd imagine it gets in the way a bit. I went & checked out the site & will be purchasing one. Thanks brother!
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+juniormolina12 You are very welcome, hopefully you don't ever need it.
@rickyball46337 жыл бұрын
Found my answer as I read through comments. Thanks for your videos and stay safe!
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Ricky Ball glad you like them and thanks for watching
@charlesig70987 жыл бұрын
My Lieutenant nearly had a run in with some blue on blue fire by a county deputy after responding to one of our officers in a shooting (thus the comment on another video about doing 120 on a wet road in a Charger) it was an attempted auto theft at a car dealership, long story short officer calls in Shots fired at himself dispatch gets it out and the nearest 7 agencies responded, one of which mistook Lt as a bad guy and nearly shot-gunned him to the face surprisingly he was responding with another patrol officer from another agency but they got separated. Visibility can save lives!
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Charles Something We've had tac guys get in some hairy situations helping out other agencies in plain clothes too.
@charlesig70987 жыл бұрын
Agreed that could potentially go south real fast, for me personally never a bad idea to take a second to Don the really bad day vest, personally I have ID patches reflective front and back and my secondary metal badge on a holder to the left of my ID patch at that point I just hope to God you see me
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Charles Something we have raid jackets that we can throw on with the agency and police in big gold letters.
@rmsg75045 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting about the Med bag, want one now. I'd like the medical bag for just attaching to my backpack or keeping attached to the shelf of my work vehicle.
@paulwitmer46114 жыл бұрын
Is it common for police departments to have full auto rifles in inventory
@kylekoenig47304 жыл бұрын
Lol not full auto
@Cp04553 жыл бұрын
It depends on the agency. My former agency had M16s from the DoD and they were able to be switched to auto. It was forbidden, however, due to not having the required training.
@zachcarter61817 жыл бұрын
+free field training What watch are you wearing in this video? I really like it!
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter I think it is the citizen eco-drive. Hasn't been in anything for a while because I broke the band a couple months ago and a new band is $79.
@zachcarter61817 жыл бұрын
+free field training Thanks'
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter It is my immense pleasure.
@StonnieDennis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Stonnie Dennis np
@TheMwnciboo8 жыл бұрын
The big elephant in the room, what if an active shooter bought a Plate carrier and a Velcro POLICE TAB. Personally i would assume everyone to be unknown until postively identified, wearing a POLICE TAB or uniform doesn't make you a Police Officer. This applies even more in the 21st century when you can buy just about anything Online on legitimate or illegitimate sites.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
That has actually occurred before and when it did the shooter was taken down by a couple of astute patrolmen who recognized that the gear old boy was wearing wasn't issue. Luckily dudes gun was jammed up from one of those uber internet reliable 100 round mags and he was taken alive. Twas out in the northweat not to long ago if I'm not mistaken. That is where those "trained observer" skills come into play. But, the concern is definitely still valid. That is one of the reasons I am against having stock "Police" or "Security" items and would prefer whole agency names on stuff. Makes it a little harder to get. Sadly, that costs money and money talks. I generally have a (quite distinctive) department patch on my uniform, vest, and plate carrier to try to negate just such an issue. I took it off for the video for obvious reasons.
@joshturner24448 жыл бұрын
+free field training The Colorado Theater shooter was dressed as SWAT but spotted because he had the wrong pants and kneepads or something wasn't it?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Josh Turner I'm not sure it is public knowledge yet for OPSEC reasons. But, it was something like that. The takeaway is public knowledge though. That is keen observation skills save lives.
@mwnciboo8 жыл бұрын
+free field training yeah that is the key point, having randoms mixed in defending themselves with concealed carry must also add a layer of stress and possible mis-identification.
@joshturner24448 жыл бұрын
free field training I read that on ar15.com and not in a secure section. I'm pretty sure it's out there. But if you want me to delete, I will.
@sawyerlawrence50338 жыл бұрын
Those GGG plates cost about 450 each though, so there is some tradeoff in weight and cost. Lots of civilians are running steel plates, and while low cost the added weight means a reduction in speed.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+sawyer lawrence you'd be surprised the price you can get on poly plates if you shop around. I think I got mine in the $250 a piece range. That puts two plates and a carrier right around the price of a blue line glock and night sights.
@sawyerlawrence50338 жыл бұрын
That's really good for new ones, I had to get some secondhand ones from a UK police force, I paid 1,000 pounds for 20 plates and another 500 pounds shipping to the states. They've since changed the export laws, but armor is still so cheap over there. 50 pounds buys a two year old HG2( US IIIA) vest.
@Unicorn1615 жыл бұрын
@@freefieldtraining LATE(!) reply, but UHMWPE plates are nice and light, but won't stop the pretty common M855 5.56mm ("green tip"). Steel is heavy and cheap, but usually won't stop the light faster 5.56/.223. Ceramic will usually stop everything, is heavier than poly but lighter than steel. It is also the most fragile.
@freefieldtraining5 жыл бұрын
@@Unicorn161 Nah, poly in conjunction will generally stop m193 or m855 (we've tested it on the channel here). You can also get stand alone poly plates that are special threat rated for m855 if you shop around and verify the rating. Ceramic is also not nearly as fragile as people make it out to be, especially modern composite ceramic designs. The NIJ now has impact testing protocols for palte ratings. About 5-10 years ago you would have been correct though.
@freefieldtraining5 жыл бұрын
@@Unicorn161 Also, in order for steel to not stop the lighter faster 556 you have to use a 20" barrel and have an absolutely perfect perpendicular frontal shot. Not very likely. I'd be more worried about the spall (which we also have tested here on the channel with currently available steel armor).
@Clinterpottrmus8 жыл бұрын
I thought it said LEGO :(
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, wrong channel. Lol
@wldktz1 Жыл бұрын
I keep mine buckled in my passenger seat of my patrol vehicle. That way I can readily grab it.
@tacticalcats77227 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. Those plates are thick as hell but I'm guessing it beats wearing heavier but thinner steel plates over a long period of time.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
3lbs vs 7+ pounds is an easy decision. $400 vs $80 is a little harder though.
@jaredd6248 жыл бұрын
So I'd really like to have a plate carrier to put on top of my safariland vest (Oregon city). The issue being most of us keep most of our stuff on the vest. Radio, cuffs, less lethal. Only things on my belt are my holster and pistol mag pouch. So I don't think this will really work over top. Our vests can hold additional 10x12s but ceramics are too bulky and steel is too heavy to keep in there all the time. The carrier I was looking at was the first on from first spear. Any suggestions?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
I'd work on a way to be able to slip a front plate in on an as needed basis. One of my better vests for SWAT that had a flap at the top, right under your chin, for a plate where you slid it down into the vest. www.pointblankenterprises.com/pointblankbodyarmor/?product=ram-1 In the picture the "POLICE" Patch is on the flap I am talking about Poly and ceramic plates were an affair to get in and out, but if yours slides in the same way you might be able to slide a front steel plate in on the fly. Plus steel is cheap and hard to damage, so you could just throw a plate in a duty bag or behind the seat. Better than nothing and would keep your cargo carrying capacity on your vest like you like it. If your vest requires disassembly to insert plates or is a side loader, you could take it to a tailor and have a 10x12 pouch sewn in the lining of the vest, against your body, that you could load a plate in on the fly. Though I question the comfort of that. To be honest, even the setup I show here is a bit bulky. Especially if I try to drive with it still on. I can't imagine having pouches on the font of my vest cover and tossing it over that.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
I also looked into the first spear designs but, was worried about the "tubes" proprietary fastening. Looks cool, but as you can tell from the various videos, I have a tendency to break things and would prefer gear that is repairable. Now if someone reading this works for first spear and wants to send me one for free...
@jaredd6248 жыл бұрын
+free field training I could slip in a front plate pretty easy just with a quick unzip. But I'd either need to take it off or have someone else insert a back plate. But no disassembly is required. I have steel plates, but they are very heavy. Granted im pretty green, I love the external vest carriers, the other more salty guys have really grown to like them as well. I think it's really comfortable. I've heard good things about the tubes from first spear, but don't know anyone personally. I do know a guy personally that has one of those GGG mpcs and he loves it. Though not LE or mil, just a guy that trains a lot. ( search for the Practically Tactical channel they've done a review) I suppose I could simply keep plates in a bag to slip in if I have the chance. I also have the option of switching back to a concealable carrier, then I could keep something like this. I just really do like the external vest a lot.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
Me too. Nothing beats being able to skip the vest off while doing paper or taking a duce.
@djturnz5 жыл бұрын
Get composite plates. Angel Armor hybrid is what my colleague wears daily. He has the newer Safariland vest with the less tactical looking molle.
@joshuathinker85462 жыл бұрын
So why not place anything on the back? Seems like a good unused area that you could put some mission critical things.
@ThePLGKrew7 жыл бұрын
I carry 8 AR mags and a med kit on mine. Im also 6 foot 8 220 lbs so a little extra weight doesnt really bother me much.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Earl Keen well, if the red coats come you are definitely ready 😀😀
@NoName-gt5mc6 жыл бұрын
Gosh I know it's the norm but that just does not seem like enough rifle caliber protection. I know the trade offs for movement but I just might opt for more protection and loose a little mobility. But I suppose this is not offensive body armor:)
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
+Sweegy Swag even if it were. Two thirty round mags on the gun, two more on the plate carrier. Then a mag in the pistol and three more spares on the duty belt... And a backup gun. ..that is a significant amount of lead to carry around. In fact, I didn't carry any kore than that around when I worked SWAT
@cruise00168 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason you go with an aluminum GI mag and a PMag? Was that just for the purpose of the video? Or is there a different reason?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
Both are very reliable. Using one pmag or lancer for soft point duty ammo and GI for harder penetrating special purpose rounds makes it easier to tell the difference, just by feel if necessary, between the different ammunition. So, if necessary at night in a crack house at 3am while moving and communicating I can tell what type of ammunition I am loading without looking. Makes it stupid easy and it's much more reliable than red and blue tape around the bottom quarter of the mag.
@cruise00168 жыл бұрын
+free field training Makes sense. I like it. I've been using all my old mags from the Corps as backups. Now they've got a practical use again.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
Any time you can reuse a gift from your uncle Sam is a bonus.
@lanceg20177 жыл бұрын
I think this guy secretly wants to be a firefighter
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+lance gatien lol
@opforcesabre8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+John Perkins Thank you! More to come...
@cassandramiller76538 жыл бұрын
How do those mag holders attach to the plate carrier?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Cassandra Miller rubber straps on the ba k run through the molle loops
@rtc1964rc7 жыл бұрын
excellent advice, thanks be safe from northern Lake co. IL.....
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Ronald Castro You do the same brother!
@mattconnolly1695 жыл бұрын
I'm security the only thing on my plate carrier is an admin pouch to put my work phone and a notepad. I can't afford a soft vest and I guard a gas station and a cannibis shop
@freefieldtraining5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds like a shit show situation.
@mattconnolly1695 жыл бұрын
It pays decent
@mattconnolly1695 жыл бұрын
Love your videos by the way
@freefieldtraining5 жыл бұрын
If I were you I would give serious consideration to a used vest. Used level 2 vests can be had pretty cheap. (under $250) if you shop around online.
@mattconnolly1695 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/bullet-proof-vest-level-2/123524891028?hash=item1cc2a84194:g:JB8AAOSwDYdcBa-g I saw this level 2 vest pretty cheap
@RCM18294 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on a civilian (i.e. a CCW holder) responding to an active shooter, like in a mall or something along those lines?
@MisfitGamingOfficial8 жыл бұрын
Serious question. Is there a max age for someone to pursue a career in law enforcement? In your opinion of course.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+OG Jabroni not my opinion, but, in many places the max age of hire for a non practitioner is 35
@kimjansson64348 жыл бұрын
You mentioned an AR15 in the video that you have at work but is that really what a "normal" police officer would have? or are you SWAT? what's LEO?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Kim Jansson Where I am at any police officer can train and qualify with an AR-15 or Remington 870 shotgun. My department has them available for anyone who qualifies to use. I own both an AR-15 and a Remington 870 I qualify with both but generally carry my personal AR and use the department’s shotguns if I need one. I went to SWAT school a few years back and was on a team for a time, It did not suit me for many reasons and I went back to doing field training. LEO is shorthand for Law Enforcement Officer, a generic term that covers several classifications of police and quasi police jobs.
@AnInnocentLittleBoy8 жыл бұрын
+free field training Could you do a video on your experiences on a SWAT team? I'm curious as to why the job did not suit you. I had the displeasure of speaking to a few of my municipality's Emergency Response Team members and they were all egotistical pricks. They had their heads shaved and just glared around at anything or anyone they could to make them uncomfortable. Later that day I was joking with some other officers that were not surprised with my encounter of them. Did you find that tactical teams attracted a certain type of person?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+AnInnocentLittleBoy let's just say I wasn't for me for personal reasons and I wasn't very good at it. SWAT tactics lean heavily on the officer being disposable and "working percentages". Deciding what is good or bad allowed for things like "only a 33% chance if getting shot" to be considered "good chances". Not to knock it, they have this strange tendency of winning gunfights because of it. Problem is I have small kids and a real strong urge to end the day with the same number of holes I started with. Standing in the open and " taking rounds" just dosen't compute in my head, I tried to get it in there, just wasn't working. It takes a special kind of person to repeatedly and perfectly, with the grace and precision of a professional dancer, do CQB while knowing that if things go bad they have a fairly good chance of getting killed or seriously wounded. It is also, at least where I am, like having two full time jobs. The training schedule is grueling, the expectations extraordinarily high, and the schedule insane. It was "normal" to work a regular 8hr shift on afternoons, get 3hrs of sleep, wake up at 2 am, hit a house at 3:30am, then have (extremely physical) training starting at 8am and running ten hours. Then do it all again the next day. Imagine that with a wide and two little kids... As you could imagine the people who are attracted to, and are good at, that job are a special breed. I tried for a long time to master that art, and learned alot along the way, but it is just not for me. I won't do a video on it because I think what I have to say, no matter how I frame it would sound like critasisim, and dissuade people from bidding into swat. That is the last thing I want. SWAT fulfills a critical life saving function that is largely misrepresented in both media and amongst cops. Having tried it myself, I can tell you that I, personally, have nothing but respect for the folks who do that job and do it well. Just like cops in general it is the bad apples that stick out. Plenty of guys are on ERT teams and you would never know it unless you asked. The dude wearing the Oakley's with a Boonie hat, team shirt that is a size too small, and shamage (sp?) to the bar and wont talk to you is the one that sticks out. Ignore him.
@zachcarter61818 жыл бұрын
+free field training In a mass emergency, do LEOs let bystander LEOs from other agencies help them handle the situation? Like if there was an active shooter, could an MP help them disarm the subject?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter depending on the legalities of it yes. MP's used to be restricted from carrying in many places by army policy and state law. Now some are covered under LEOSA. I'm sure the DOD might still have issues with them taking official action off duty though. As far as neighboring civilian agencies though, definitely.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter depending on the legalities of it yes. MP's used to be restricted from carrying in many places by army policy and state law. Now some are covered under LEOSA. I'm sure the DOD might still have issues with them taking official action off duty though. As far as neighboring civilian agencies though, definitely.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter depending on the legalities of it yes. MP's used to be restricted from carrying in many places by army policy and state law. Now some are covered under LEOSA. I'm sure the DOD might still have issues with them taking official action off duty though. As far as neighboring civilian agencies though, definitely.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter depending on the legalities of it yes. MP's used to be restricted from carrying in many places by army policy and state law. Now some are covered under LEOSA. I'm sure the DOD might still have issues with them taking official action off duty though. As far as neighboring civilian agencies though, definitely.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Zach Carter +Zach Carter depending on the legalities of it yes. MP's used to be restricted from carrying in many places by army policy and state law. Now some are covered under LEOSA. I'm sure the DOD might still have issues with them taking official action off duty though. As far as neighboring civilian agencies though, definitely.
@willm6878 жыл бұрын
hey i was wondering what you opinion on cops taking their firearms home and been allowed to conceal carry them when off duty because i know that here in Australia our officers have to keep their firearms at the station and cannot take them when off duty.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Will M I don't take the garbage out without a "friend".
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Will M I haven't heard of too many places in Australia that have open gang warfare going on killing 5-25 people a weekend like is going on in many depressed areas of US cities. I also don't hear much about cops in Australia getting ambushed and killed walking to their cars after work or followed home.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Will M If that was going on down there I'm sure folks would have a "friend" all the time too, legal or not. Safety is one of the most basic necessities, at least according to Maslow.
@willm6878 жыл бұрын
yeah i get what ya saying our crime rate is a lot lower then yours. but i think it was a policy made after 1996 gun bans
@jobdylan57826 жыл бұрын
Will M-- You mean the 1996 national death-certificate signing?
@sodara8 жыл бұрын
In regards to ID, what if the backside was simply read/numbered: 911...would that be considered impersonating LEO? I'm LE trained/certified but not active/licensed or employed. I like having a plate carrier but don't want to be mistaken as the bad guy(s) or charged for wearing it during such an unfortunate event. Thx!
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+sodara Many states have far more impersonation laws than just impersonating LE. Many make it a crime to impersonate any government official or public safety worker. In at least one state it is currently illegal to impersonate anyone; cop, pilot, nurse, anybody. (Holloween is a bit of a downer there I would imagine) Putting "911" on your back may very well lead to some sort of impersonation charge, though I'm not aware of any specific case law on the issue and I am far too tired to look it up at the moment. That isn' t even your biggest problem though, when you start doing weird things like that there are far reaching unintended consequences. You may very well make the situation worse by causing people to call about the suspicious person with a plate carrier, rifle, and "911" written on his back. This would draw resources away from the actual.threat and towards you. Best case, you waste lots of time and resources, worst case... In an incident where there were already people shot I think you may very well become the prime suspect and the attention of what we so affectionately call a "stinger team" from the local constabulary. That would kind of defeat the purpose of ID. It WOULD make your life insurance a sound investment though, so there is that. You may also get jumped and beat the crap out of or ambushed by an off duty or ccw holder who assumed you were the bad guy...also not good. Some of those ccw holders are excellent shots and have lived long hard lives where they have learned things which could make you remaining days... unpleasant. You will likely get in some legal trouble with any ID pannel that does not accurately depict who you are and what you are there for. Since 100% of shootings require medical attention to be rendered and the number of medical personnel required for a mass casualty incident will be hundreds of times greater than the number of trigger pullers, might I suggest that you try an "EMT" ID pannel... With the proper certification and gear of course. Then there is no legal issues (that I'm aware of) and you have a skill that definitely WILL come in handy. Plus you get to buy new gear! Who dosent like new gear?!
@sodara8 жыл бұрын
+free field training exactly what I was thinking, don't want to interfere with the responding authorities or add to the confusion.
@jamarcusjayqwellen6878 жыл бұрын
thoughts on side plates? useful obviously but is it worth the extra weight on patrols or on a go plate carrier?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Jamarcus Jayqwellen eh, for me, I have to be able to get back in the car and drive with the thing on. This setup is pushing it as it is given my girth.
@jamarcusjayqwellen6878 жыл бұрын
right. i know of some officers that wear them specifically when they're in their car in case someone tries something while they're seated. not sure what kind they use though or the likeliness of such an attack
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Jamarcus Jayqwellen that would be...uncomfortable.
@Rubber.Duck_Actual6 жыл бұрын
Star badge, name tape, patch on one side...you're not out of Oakland, are you?
@damiion6668 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what is the best round most able to penetrate a leo body armor?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
That depends on so many variables that it would be impossible to answer in any definitive way. If there were an answer I surely wouldn't share it on the internet.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Will M As a training channel, this is a space for professionals who have a common interest. Everyone with a legitimate interest in the public safety topics presented here is welcome. However, due to this being an educational channel and not a political or entertainment forum certain things are not allowed. Your comment was held for review automatically by KZfaq because it contains cursing. If you continue to make statements that are derogatory or speculative in nature you will simply be blocked. I dislike having to do this, but it truly dosen't hurt me in any way. The dislike button drives traffic to my channel just as surely as the like button. You are more than welcome, as is everyone, to continue with adult conversation on the topic at hand if you refrain from cursing or making personal attacks. As a token of my sincerity I am also deleting the original snarky comment that instigated your retort.
@willm6878 жыл бұрын
yeah well he didn't have o say it in such a sarcastic way all he had to say was don't you mean this. thats why i got mad he was just straight up been a d..k
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Will M Understood. I have been guilty of such things in the past. Please just keep in mind that it is the internet. Tomorrow you will wake up, eat breakfast, have a beer, go to work, etc. Regardless of some anonymous person on the internet hundreds of miles away is being a jerk or not. Trust me, If I can refrain from cursing on here anyone can.
@willm6878 жыл бұрын
ok sorry for swearing m8
@BallZakc8 жыл бұрын
I would rock cumber bun and scoot the medical pouch to my weak side carry more ammo. That's just me
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+BallZakc cumber bun dosen't help much placing it over another set of soft armor. In fact it dosen't help much at all anymore. Companies have figured out how to make armor stay put without sucking it to you with a big piece of uncomfortable elastic. I've had body armor with a cummerbund system and without. I'd much prefer the ones designed without.
@tacticalfugitivewarntdivis78758 жыл бұрын
yeah I'm information that she would giving these people is accurate I have been an active shooting situation why I got the call that they can I get my partner on the phone so I rolled over to the side when I got over there I was in a total hell Zone I have 15 of the idiots shooting Italy if it would have been for my backup plate carriers I would have been killed instantly I had an ar-15 but I was totally out number my play Gears of what stopped the rounds from going through and through they told me this to give me a bug out bag bowling bags always in the trunk your extra carrier is always right next to you on the seat
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing some of that got lost in translation there, but I'm glad you liked the video.
@armyprice21438 жыл бұрын
what size plates do you put in the vest?
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Army Price 10x12's. I was a little surprised they fit being they are the polyethylene plates that are about an inch thick.
@sgt.awesome42717 жыл бұрын
What is your thoughts on the BMI lawn force meant active shooter response kit
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
Sgt. Awesome The one that comes with Chapstick and a multitool? I'm sure the rig could get the job done, but let's not confuse just carrying a bunch of stuff with being prepared. If you don't carry a multitool normally the chances of you using it in a critical incident are pretty slim. The Chapstick I don't even have words for.
@oscardoyle9538 жыл бұрын
What kind of agency do you work for. I know you can't disclose this info. Just federal state or city/sheriff agency.
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
I work for a rather large, rather "rough" local jurisdiction.
@oscardoyle9538 жыл бұрын
thanks just wondering. hope you stay safe out in the field
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
No problem, stop on by anytime.
@jlua1648 жыл бұрын
What would you put on for identification for civilian use
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Julio Lua I honestly don't know. Most guys carrying these around have some sort of official capacity in which they are engaged. "Police", "Security", "Sheriff", "EMS", "EMT", " F.F./paramedic", "MEDIC", "Tactical MEDIC" "Military Police" and the like. I've heard retired guys have the same debate before about ID in an emergency. They generally conclude that they don't want to go to jail for impersonation and so don't want to carry gear around with "police" on it. Some say that in the *highly* unlikely event that they should need such equipment just going about their regular everyday retired life that they would just risk taking blue on blue. Those guys, in my opinion, have balls. Talk about being in it for the love of the game. Not to dissuade you from buying cool stuff (I love cool stuff too), but in the unlikely event of you happening upon an active shooter in your every day life current data suggests that you and everyone around you are better off engaging the shooter immediately with whatever you have on you. Plan accordingly.
@jlua1648 жыл бұрын
+free field training thanks I appreciate the advice
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Julio Lua you are very welcome.
@sirwhitecrayon24998 жыл бұрын
+Julio Lua I know a guy who put "Innocent Bystander" on his. While funny, it's true. lol
@Gmoney8187 жыл бұрын
Julio Lua they make patches that say "CCW" it looks official enough and won't get you into trouble because CCW just means concealed carry weapon.
@docster12108 жыл бұрын
Plate carrier with attached backpack
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Docster12 I don't copy
@docster12108 жыл бұрын
you could attach a small-medium size pouch on the rear of the vest, added cargo/ammunition capacity for you and your fellow officers, at the expense of a little extra weight
@freefieldtraining8 жыл бұрын
+Docster12 Ah, yes, I've seen those. Here is the issues with them to keep in mind though. Affixing the pouch to the back of the armor means that to get to the stuff inside you will need somone else's help or to take the armor off. As current thought is leaning towards a single officer response to active shooters that might not prove to be an expedient way to access gear. There is also just the general issue of weight. People often disregard the fact that everything weighs something and that weight adds up. Five AR mags is five extra pounds. Five pounds isn't much, unless you are already carrying fifty. You have to draw the line somewhere. Lastly, by putting a non easily removable pouch to the back of your armor you are pretty well killing your ability to operate a car if needed with the armor on. As it is this setup makes it extremely hard to fit behind the wheel of any vehicle. So, what are we gaining by adding a back pouch and is it worth what we are losing? Only you can decide for you.
@olympiabase82048 ай бұрын
Cringing so hard for the intro where baldy basic pretends like he has a call and needs to hit the road….
@spenz416 жыл бұрын
What size are those ID patches?
@polecatfan16274 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on TAP ammo
@MEGR76 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what are those mag pouches?
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
They are itw fastmags. The cool guy gear of five years ago, lol.
@walsh57997 жыл бұрын
Nice
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+ZErO GRaViTY 👍 thanks for watching!
@copbrothers83505 жыл бұрын
What kind of plate carrier is that
@freefieldtraining5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it is by Grey ghost gear
@kevindelport74086 жыл бұрын
if you get shot in the mag does it go off or blow up
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
+kevin Delport no, small arms ammunition is not volatile unless contained in the chamber of a gun. It will not explode or detonate if hit by a bullet.
@officerpizza22397 жыл бұрын
Do us cops must wear plate carries?
@ccg_5335 жыл бұрын
We wear soft vests that stop handgun bullets on everyday work but in an active shooter threat or a high risk warrant we throw on a plate carrier to stop rifle ammo
@rickyball46337 жыл бұрын
As a CCW holder how best can I identify myself on my vest?
@guisspino23477 жыл бұрын
Ricky Ball if you have time to get to your car, leave.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Mike G That is great advice honestly.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Mike G keep in mind though that some people are going G to be staging a vest in their office or locker when they work at a large facility.
@guisspino23477 жыл бұрын
free field training that's a great point, I live in a very liberal area and I'm pretty sure carriers aren't even allowed for civilians, so storing this in your workplace seems so foreign to me. Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+Mike G That body armor should be legal to own anywhere in the US as far as I'm aware.
@e4mafia5786 жыл бұрын
How come you don't carry extra pistol mags on your vest ???
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
Likely hood of needing them is about zero.
@e4mafia5786 жыл бұрын
You mean in the event you deploy an AR-15 ???
@freefieldtraining6 жыл бұрын
I already have three mags on my belt. I'm doubting ill get through those if I have a rifle out.
@e4mafia5786 жыл бұрын
True actually, thanks for the reply
@jeepneydriver77 жыл бұрын
is that a tax write off , when you declare that you bought that for work ?
@freefieldtraining7 жыл бұрын
+jeepneydriver7 It is exclusively for work and as such is deductible.