Polo 9N OEM Cruise Control + Remote Locking Install!
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Күн бұрынThis video contains: Full OEM-like cruise control installation and remote central locking retrofit/ upgrade to VW Polo 9N 2002+ model
I've been thinking of doing this upgrade for a while, and the time finally came! A full OEM install of cruise control and remote central locking to my 2003 VW Polo 9N.
I don't bring you this alone. I stand on the shoulders of our Polish and Russian brothers posting 144p clips of wiring mayhem through puffs of cigarette smoke, and the giants before them, populating your favorite VW Polo forums with all the know-how to make this upgrade possible. What I do believe I do as a first is document this all in one place for your viewing pleasure.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:03 Theory
2:23 Compatibility
3:04 My Specifications
4:55 Hardware
6:25 Disassembly
12:55 Wiring & Loom
14:49 Wiring Install
24:47 Re-assembly
28:30 Testing
29:53 Remote Key Pairing
31:33 VCDS Configurating
36:14 DONE!
38:08 Costs
Topics:
Intro - Cruise Control Installation Polo 9N / Remote Central Locking ambition
Theory - Cruise Control Installation VW Polo 9N 2004 with J519 module, and J393 convenience system module integration with CCS stalks
My Specifications - J519 6Q1 937 049 D // J393 = 6Q0 959 433 G // Engine ECU: 03E 906 033 L / 3PE 5325
Hardware - J519 = 6Q1 ... or 6Q0 ... // J393 = 6Q0 959 433 E // Stalks: 6Q0 953 513 G // Remote Key: 1J0 959 753 DA
Wiring & Loom - VW Polo 9N 2004 Cruise Control (CCS) Wiring diagram // VW Polo 9N 2004 Cruise Control wiring loom
Wiring Install - T41 connector CCS install // Fusebox CCS install // T11a compact connector CCS install
Links:
Cruise Control:
#poloclub .co.uk fourm on Cruise Control (my original inspiration for CCS):
www.clubpolo.co.uk/topic/3097...
Another CCS thread from our South African brothers: www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewto...
Another two from our Russian brothers:
www.drive2.ru/l/4538303/ & www.drive2.ru/l/3760862/
Another one from our Indian brothers:
www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do...
Remote Central Locking:
#poloclub .co.uk forum on Remote Central Locking: www.clubpolo.co.uk/topic/2049...
Other:
Access to Self Study Programs (SSP): www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/...
Ross-Tech Cruise Control Retrofit (9N): wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index....)
T41 connector breakdown for a VW T5 Van: www.1946vw.co.uk/vwbooks/vw_in...
#vw #polo #9N #2004 #mkiv #mk4 #vwpolo #sonya7iv #sonya7m4 #4k
@TotallyNotASpy1 17 күн бұрын
Finally a 9N enthusiast who is still working on this gorgeous little car and has high quality walkthroughs for mods in ENGLISH. I desperately wish I could find more content on this car, especially on the least appreciated ones like the 1.9 SDI...
@lukajukic6439 8 ай бұрын
Probably one of better tutorials for cruise control install it is so much helpfull and now made me want to install it my polo.
@P0L0G0D 8 ай бұрын
Good luck if you do give it a go!
@stajpi 3 ай бұрын
god damn, i loved every second of it! bring back lots of memories :) love your editing and i hope you will have lots of new videos... big hello from croatia!
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man :). Me and this car have been down in Croatia many times, love that place. After Easter I'll start editing my heated cloth seat install, so maybe next vid mid April 😜
@stajpi 3 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D well, if you are ever in zadar, write to me, we should get a coffe. I would love to hear about some things about your polo... I want to learn how things work (electric things) in polo...
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
@@stajpi will do!
@kubo7050 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial, now im going to do it on my car.
@miguelchilrito 3 ай бұрын
Good video, I have the same car and I'm thinking of making the same modification, I will use this video as a reference. Thank you and keep making these types of videos.
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
Thanks and best of luck if you give it a try! It isn't a hard job but can take a while so be ready to not have the car a few days and that you have a place you can leave it while upgrading!
@nivens.1604 Ай бұрын
Great video. I'll still probably pay someone to do it for me for the simple fact I don't have the confidence to remember how so many pieces come apart and go back together, but a high quality job - well done
@P0L0G0D Ай бұрын
Thanks buddy. If you have the time and space, trust yourself and the process :), but whatever works best for you.
@nivens.1604 Ай бұрын
Currently definitely don't have the space to take the dash out, but very good advice. This week I swapped out my twist seats for Dune/Fun seats, simple job but learnt a LOT from the process!
@caspardelint3511 8 ай бұрын
Well excecuted and documented👌🏻
@caspardelint3511 8 күн бұрын
I had a go at the cruise control, it is working fine. But my dash cruise light does not light up. On 2nd look my cable kit seems to be missing the diode in the cable running from 31 on the T41 connector to the nr 5 on the J519 module. Could this be the cause of it not lightning up?
@greatmangoodman7501 3 ай бұрын
The "I'm not electrician" guy do and understand better then all electricians in my town...😂
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
Trust me I really don't, but google is my friend and there is a whole lot out there (sometimes) on internet forums!
@greatmangoodman7501 3 ай бұрын
@P0L0G0D than I really do not understand why this people in official vag service can't find out how to change oil in dsg on my polo 9n3😄
@Acolytes_ 8 ай бұрын
What a quality video! Really awesome seeing these types of videos even tho you don't have a lot of audience :) I've cruise control stalk already in my polo but the cruise control isn't working is there any way to check the wiring without needing to take the whole dash out?
@P0L0G0D 8 ай бұрын
Hey, for sure you can troubleshoot without the whole dash out. Not sure if you have the stalks, but you never had the CCS functionality, or it just suddenly stopped? If the car came with CCS from factory and suddenly stopped, I would have the cars scanned via OBDII port to check for faults before disassembling anything. Same if the stalks were newly fitted, maybe it just need to be activated. I would think it unlikely the wiring suddenly got damaged.
@Acolytes_ 8 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D It has had the stalks with CCS controls on ever since it came from factory, ill try troubleshooting it then 👌🏼
@Rodasfast 6 ай бұрын
great 😀
@simonemastroianni1985 2 ай бұрын
Hey quick question! I'm loving your videos, and this in particular has been pretty useful to me.. I'm working on a infotainment project from scratch, involving microcontrollers, OBD-II and getting data from/to it. now after a lot of searching i had a lot of mixed results whenever my VW Polo mk4 9N (not the restyling 9N3) has the CAN BUS or just the ISO 9141/ISO 14231 K-Line protocol; The ideal thing here is to just use the K-Line just for diagnostic purposes, and the CAN bus to read actual data, just bc it's more reliable, fast and convenient; And i think also to be able to communicate with the other ECU Modules. Also do you happen to have some useful links to document myself about those "Self-Study Programme" about the 9N? I do happen to have this same model (even the color's the same LOL), but 5 doors instead of 2; Thanks again for your help, it has been really useful.
@YdenPL 8 ай бұрын
I would like to suggest a couple upgrades (which I also want to do and would appreciate seeing). First is 3DColorMFD, a full-color FIS (instrument cluster display) replacement (even for cars with no FIS like yours and mine, you put it in place of the LEDs) and the second is a steering wheel adapter called LIN2CAN from the same guy that makes the display, which allows to install a steering wheel from newer Volkswagen cars, think Golf 7 and similar, with the full feature set, steering wheel buttons and all. I really wanna do these upgrades but the instructions scare me hahaha. You could give them a try some day, they would make the car look way newer. And by the way, you could have used VCDS to program in the new remote, there's an adaptation channel in the central convenience channel for adding a new remote without the key turning shenanigans, that's how I did mine :D I also had to replace the convenience module, had the H variant, installed the E variant all the same.
@P0L0G0D 8 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for all the suggestions. The MFD looks pretty sick, bit complex too. I am not sure what content is best next. I was thinking of a VCDS vid dedicated to key install. Still have an extra unprogrammed immobilizer, could make a mini tutorial there (but that exists). Was also thinking of a full exterior refresh. Fix all damaged trim, repaint chips, polish whole car. Would love to see what it looks like "new". Lastly was maybe heated seats -> but I don't want leather, would fuck the interior as rest is cloth.
@P0L0G0D 8 ай бұрын
I also plan to document any general maintenence I.e. should the car need a new clutch/ timing chain/ suspension components in future, and maybe a general running costs video.
@YdenPL 8 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D The Polo 9N3 GTI had a "Winter Pack" with heated cloth seats, you could probably retrofit those, if you can get your hands on them. Anyway, whatever you do, I'll be happy to watch and follow along with some mods!
@lihle4220 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, you are very well informed. Do you by any chance know how to enable the window remote contol feature on a 1.9TDI, 2009 polo 9n? I have done the software for the key to work and check the fuses however there seems to be something im missing.
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
Hey. I know what you mean, as in if you hold the unlock key on the key fob, you want the windows to roll down, and not only do that when you unlock via the lock cylinder in the door. My car currently doesn't do this but I will look into it and let you know, because other VAG cars of same year can do this.
@lihle4220 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D That's exactly what I meant. I was able to use the key in the door function to close the windows and sunroof however now it does not work. I had the key synchronization software done and was informed it's a hardware issue and might be a fuse or so. Checked all the fuses but no luck yet. I would really appreciate it if you can look into it for me.
@aden3113 6 ай бұрын
Have a seat ibiza 6l 2004 and I bought a cruise control kit from Kufatec with wiring loom and stalks and installed it about a year ago, it was more or less plug and play. Didn't remove dashboard either as I managed to do everything under the foot panel, though very tight. No soldering either as I just spliced in the wire to the brake light fuse and just taped it. Removing the clock spring was tricky but I did it without breaking it and also getting the steering wheel airbag off took me about have the CCS installation time as the hooks were almost impossible to find with a screwdriver. I got lucky though as I had the correct ECU and convenience module for cruise control otherwise not sure I would have attenpted this for cost reasons. Overall a good upgrade if you tend to do lots of journeys on the highway. I also bought an ebay center console armrest which makes long drives quite seemless. May I ask, what economy are you seeing on the highway with 1,2 three cylinder? I get roughly 5,4/100 km 80 km/h and about 6,2/100 km 100 km/h.
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
Awesome. The fucking steering wheel airbag was a nightmare, took me a solid 30min I think. I did see posts online where others did it all via the footwell. In the days before this project I was digging around the check the module codes, access to fuse box, etc, and it was such a pain working out of the footwell. I also wanted the install to be clean -> wires routed correctly, not tapping the front end of the fuse box. I was also worried if I wan into issues I'd need to remove the dash anyway..., so no regrets from my side here :). Sounds like you had a more workable system -> with my change of convenience module I inherited an autolocking setting I didn't like + the CCS system needed activation via OBDII connection, which it seems like you had active already. In terms of economy, I'm actually recording my operating costs currently (for a future video on operating costs) and in my last 3119 km I've used 172.51 L of petrol, or 5.53 L/100KM average (mostly on highway). I would say in the at 80 kph I average 4.5L / 100km, and at 100 kph, 5.2 L / 100KM. I normally drive at 3750 RPM (when on highway) which is about 110-115 KPH on GPS in my car (will indicate more 120 kph at that RPM on speedo). The reason I like to stay at that RPM is because my engine has eaten oil when driving at 4000/4200 RPM (125-130KPH) for longer drives before. I think I may put out a video soon on fuel economy and comparison between manual drive vs CCS drive, because i have a suspicion CCS is consuming more fuel that I do when driving manually.
@aden3113 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D I did have to research a lot before actually attempting this because I park my car in a public garage (indoors thankfully) with not a lot of privacy or space, the ibiza dashboard is definitely more tricky to remove as I did remove it later on for other reasons, looking back it was a stroke of luck that I even managed to reach in to the connector I needed in the bulkhead through the footwell as the connector was positioned on the far left corner just within reach. I did also have to activate it with VCDS as well, initially I bought one of those cheap fake blue VCDS cables from amazon and managed to activate CCS with VCDS lite and a small laptop. I later on ditched it and bought the real VCDS cable from ROSS tech as I ended up needing it for more extensive troubleshooting (on other cars as well). It's interesting that the 1,2 three cylinder gets such good fuel economy, even on the highway. I have the 1,4 four cylinder (BBY) and the engine spins at almost exactly 3000 RPM at 100 km/h, at 120 km/h 3500 RPM and at 80 km/h it spins at roughly 2500 RPM which I thought would make it more frugal but seems not. History and maintenance makes a big difference as well of course and your car is definitely in better shape than mine. The oil burning and fuel consumption does increase with speed as you've said and I've found around 100 km/h to be the sweet spot. I believe many people share the same experience with cruise control and reduced economy, I certainly noticed a dip in mileage which I assume is due to less smooth driving. Even though it holds the speed constant it doesn't slow down when there's a car in front or traffic, most people naturally let off the gas pedal which saves fuel and allows the car to glide for a distance whereas with cruise control it keeps going until you break suddenly which is less efficient. CCS seems to work most efficiently with less traffic on empty stretches of road.
@arcboutant 5 ай бұрын
Fitting cruise control is ‘seemple’. I got a mechanic friend to do it for me . I have a 2005 1.9 Polo Gt TDi 130 hp Pd. All that was required is to physically fit the unit then find a striped (cant remember the colour)wire to connect to.Would never be without it now. All cars should have it as standard.
@P0L0G0D 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree that it's a must, really great on long drives -> especially with a 1.9L: TDI ;)! Whether the car can accept a new component (like new stalks) and have working CCS is another story, really depends on the car. In my case, the existing wire harness could not interact with new component...
@arcboutant 5 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D with my car, on a long road, say the A9, I select cruise at 50 (gps) mph in 5th and see the average mpg going well past 80mpg. That speed selection I’ve found to allow a more continued travel without holding up traffic or myself, and actually a smoother almost as quick journey is made.
@P0L0G0D 5 ай бұрын
@@arcboutant That's a pretty wild fuel economy. I can't do better than 50-55 mpg at that speed in my 1.2 petrol. I need to try a tdi at some point.
@omarkul5320 3 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0Dwhat do you mean by "the existing wire harness could not interact with the new component"? Btw I'm halfway in the retrofit. Gotta reassemble now
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
@@omarkul5320 For example listen at 12:33. Here I explain how the new stalk (which has the CCS function switch) is different from a non-CCS stalk. The difference is that there are more pins that pass electrical signals on the CCS stalks to the cars computer. In order to transmit those signals, your car will need the physical wires to carry these signals, and if you look at my stalk connector, I am missing these wires (you can see I later install them at 19:45). So in short, if the wire loom had all the necessary wiring in place, you could simply plug in new equipment and it would work, but in my case "the existing wire harness could not interact with the new component", i.e., the new stalks. Good luck on your install and let us know how it turns out! I also noticed you previously asked me how I got VCDS... if you have trouble activating it and are in Bavaria / Tyrol area, maybe I can hook you up ;). Good luck!
@thabisomaeko3696 2 ай бұрын
where can i buy or download the software you used to do the coding great video an explanation
@P0L0G0D 2 ай бұрын
The software I use is called VCDS by RossTech. You can download the software for free but need a compatible OBDII connector for the program to work. You can buy the connector from RossTech, ebay, or 3rd party dealers. I bought mine off www.mft-fahrzeugtechnik.de/ / www.vcds-shop.de/. Apparently you can buy cracked connectors but I have no experience with that. If you don't want to make this investment then I recommend you have a local garage help with the final configuration.
@ElBlastBeat 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Do you think this convenience module would work the same for a right hand drive car?
@P0L0G0D 9 ай бұрын
The explicit answer is I don't know because I never tried, but I would guess it doesn't matter. I bought a second hand one in this project and don't remember any forums discussing right vs left hand drive of the car, nor the sellers mentioning this when selling the module. Further, I can't really imagine why it would matter. Functionality should be same in all cases.
@ElBlastBeat 9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for your reply. I’ll be using this video and other resources to help change my CCU in a few weeks and attempt to get remote locking into my Polo 9N.. I’ll update here with my results! .. Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it in the detail you have 🍻
@P0L0G0D 9 ай бұрын
@@ElBlastBeat No worries and good luck!
@ElBlastBeat 8 ай бұрын
At this point in the video 30:48 , do you have two flip keys ? Because I thought with the process to sync a new key, the key you want to program needs to be in the ignition, but it seem like the flip key is in your hand being used as the primary key to lock/unlock the door?
@P0L0G0D 8 ай бұрын
Hey. No at the point, and all points, I only had one remote flip key, which is the one I bought over the course of this video. When I purchased my car it only came with two simple keys (I.e. 0:10). I'm pretty sure I followed these steps to pair the key: "a. With driver's window down and all doors closed, put the old key in the ignition and turn the electrics on. b. Lock the driver’s door from the outside with the fob key. c. Press unlock on the remote, wait a couple of seconds and press it again". This comes from the link in description to "Remote Central Locking" on poloclub.co.uk.
@silvapintor09 3 ай бұрын
Which year is your car? I went to a vw dealership and ask if they sold keys for the remote lock and in their computer said it wasn’t compatible mine is from 2002
@P0L0G0D 3 ай бұрын
Hey. I have a 2004 (registered), but I think it was produced in 2003, but tbh, it doesn't matter. As long as you have a 9N model this can work. If your dealer looked it up on their system, it is likely nothing came up because technically, the car is NOT compatible with remote locking (i.e. in the stock configuration). The first step is switching out your comfort module. With this switched out, you can then pair a remote lock. Check out the description for some links on remote locking -> I am still going to remake a video on this in the future since many viewers want remote locking, not the cruise control :)
@silvapintor09 2 ай бұрын
Thank you mate
@davidmuhic235 5 ай бұрын
Can i ask you where did you buy the key for the remote unlocking
@P0L0G0D 5 ай бұрын
Sure. I bought it on ebay. I gave a direct link to the item in the comments with another person under this video. If you google the part # you should find plenty of results. The usually cost 10-20 euro and are likely not original, but compatible replicas.
@davidmuhic235 5 ай бұрын
Okay thank you 🙏
@aidram0590 6 ай бұрын
for remote central lock would i only need to replace the ccm module or the j393 module to the 6q0 959 433 E and get a 1j0 959 753 DA key to make this work with vcds
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
That's right, but you don't need VCDS for this upgrade necessarily. In my case the j393 control module wasn't programmed how I wanted. This module controls lock settings like autolocking above a certain speed, unlocking when you pull key from ignition etc. If your new j393 module has settings you are OK with then no need for the programming step after install. There is no way to really know the settings until you purchase and install the module though. I would not recommend you buy VCDS for this upgrade alone though, maybe just stop by a garage if post install you don't like the settings and want a change :).
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
Maybe I need to make a dedicated remote locking video that is shorter xD, otherwise you need to click through this one on CCS... sorry!
@aidram0590 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D okay thank you good to know what i need for it as this is going to be my next upgrade
@aidram0590 6 ай бұрын
what was the frequency of the key you use as i don't know which one to get as there are 2 different once's
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
@@aidram0590 I believe per part # it should be 434 MHz freq. I checked the Ebay listing where I bought mine and it didn't mention frequency, just that it was a DA model for 2000-2005 VW. Here is the literal key I bought, but I am sure you can find cheaper buys: www.ebay.at/itm/391925317987?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=5221-175123-2357-0&ssspo=_eRqcMNQS3C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=lndz1z6krfy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@omarkul5320 4 ай бұрын
Where did you get the VCDS from lol?
@P0L0G0D 4 ай бұрын
The VCDS program by Ross Tech is free, you can download it on any computer. In order for the program to connect with your car, you'll need a compatible OBDII connector, but it has to be one specifically sold by Ross Tech. The OBDII connector itself stores the relevant serial code/ activation code for the program to run. There are 3 types of OBDII connectors. All have basic functionality unlocked on unlimited cars. Then for advanced functions you're limited to 3 VINs for the hobby connector, 10 for mid tier, or unlimited for pro. Your options are 1) buy a legit connector from the supplier or a 3rd party (I got mine here: www.mft-shop.de/ross-tech-vcds-hex-v2-hobby-3er-limit/) 2) buy one on eBay (either unlimited or limited with a few VINS left -> also note you can upgrade tiers) 3) maybe there are cheap cracked connector, but I wouldn't know. Lastly, if you think you won't need it much you can always visit a garage for minor tweaks needing diagnostic software.
@omarkul5320 4 ай бұрын
thanks you :D@@P0L0G0D
@djheleno.6243 Ай бұрын
Quero fazer isso no meu polo. Aqui no Brasil e complicado arrumar as peças. Quando arruma e muito caro.
@P0L0G0D Ай бұрын
Existem muitos Polo 9N no Brasil? Posso imaginar que pode ser difícil se o carro não for popular lá. Aqui na Europa Central é fácil comprar peças a um custo OK, o que ajuda. Geralmente este trabalho não necessita de muitas peças (apenas fiação/hastes). Espero que você consiga e se precisar de ajuda, pode sempre deixar um comentário :).
@JDeyvi12 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video! How can i send a message to you ? i have a little confution about my warning light system
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
Don't currently have any public channels of communication. What warning light are you talking about? Random lights in your dash or lights specific to cruise control malfunction?
@JDeyvi12 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D well, when i turn on the position light without keys on switch, i don’t have any sound like beep beep warning the light on, so i don’t know if you understand me
@JDeyvi12 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D neighter sound any beep beep when the doors are open
@P0L0G0D 6 ай бұрын
@@JDeyvi12 I think that may be normal? For example, if I sit in my seat (with doors closed), I can turn the headlights switch on (without the key in the ignition). As long as the key isn't in the ignition, only the daytime running lights will turn on (even if you try to turn on the headlights), but no ring or warning should sound. BUT, if you then open your door, you should get a ringing sound. The beeping should be there if the keys are out of ignition, lights are on, and you have the door open. (If this doesn't happen, I assume your speaker for this might be dead (it rings from a dedicated speaker, not the cars sound system). If your door is just open while the key is in the ignition or engine is running, you will at most get a light on the dash, but no ringing.
@JDeyvi12 6 ай бұрын
@@P0L0G0D When any check light on the instrument panel turns on, the buzzer beeps, but when I turn on the parking lights with the car off and the door open or I open the switch, no beep sounds.
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