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DEFCON scares me and science says it will scare you too

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Күн бұрын

DEFCON is existentially terrifying. How about a nice game of chess?
Studies:
David L. Waddington et al.“Education from inside the bunker: Examining the effect of Defcon, a nuclear warfare simulation game, on nuclear attitudes and critical reflection.” Journal of the Canadian Game Studies Association. vol. 7(12), Apr. 2014
Chong-U Lim. "An A.I. Player for DEFCON: An Evolutionary Approach Using Behavior Trees." Department of Computing Imperial College London. June 2009
Miguel Sicart "How I Learned to Love the Bomb: Defcon and the Ethics of Computer Games." Center for Computer Game Research IT University of Copenhagen. 2009
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@boxofcereal
@boxofcereal Жыл бұрын
Destroying the world in Plague Inc: hehe I’m such a monster Destroying the world in Defcon: *what have I done*
@a0001521
@a0001521 6 ай бұрын
Stellaris players: hehe ethnic cleansing lmao
@user-ez7ed7kd8e
@user-ez7ed7kd8e 4 ай бұрын
Nah my reaction to the game is plague inc. Don’t know why people are put off or disturbed by this game. It’s just a silly map game with funny little numbers popping up.
@DEFC0NZER0
@DEFC0NZER0 3 ай бұрын
​@user-ez7ed7kd8e Same. I played Defcon, expecting to be scared or at least unnerved, but in truth I felt nothing. I had fun, it certainly wasn't boring, but I didn't feel any worse about it.
@threeheadedmonsterofficial
@threeheadedmonsterofficial 3 ай бұрын
the difference between plague inc and defcon is you cant control where viruses go but you can control where nukes go
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 2 ай бұрын
@@user-ez7ed7kd8e ok mr edge
@GlitchedBlox
@GlitchedBlox 3 жыл бұрын
"You see that city?" "Yes, sir." "I don't want to." "Yes, sir!"
@aureusknighstar2195
@aureusknighstar2195 3 жыл бұрын
"Tachibana-san, why aren't we living?"
@JavaScrapper
@JavaScrapper 3 жыл бұрын
@@aureusknighstar2195 cause MURICA FRICK YA
@leexcite2903
@leexcite2903 3 жыл бұрын
**proceeds to make him blind**
@aninditapaul9291
@aninditapaul9291 3 жыл бұрын
@@leexcite2903 **by making him see the nuclear blast on the city**
@ennieminymoo6675
@ennieminymoo6675 3 жыл бұрын
@@aninditapaul9291 *and then stabbing him in the eyes just in case*
@localcompanion
@localcompanion 2 жыл бұрын
In 1870, decades before the nuclear bomb was created, and English author by the name of Wilkie Collins was surveying the destruction caused by either the Franco-Prussian War or the American Civil War (I forget which one, both were horrible). He made the remark that one day humanity will make a "discovery…of a destructive agent so terrible that war shall mean annihilation, and men’s fears shall force them to keep the peace."
@Deathstroke-gd6kd
@Deathstroke-gd6kd Жыл бұрын
He seems to have been wrong, or we haven't reached that stage yet. I don't know which is worse
@TK-5311
@TK-5311 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathstroke-gd6kd during the cold War russia and the US wanted to nuke each other very badly but they knew the world would end if either one did so, I believe we have hit that stage, we are still in it
@atif1538
@atif1538 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathstroke-gd6kd pretty sure we have with the atomic bomb
@ShiroCh_ID
@ShiroCh_ID Жыл бұрын
@@pileofthoughts this is a possibility too much risk and less return while war give advantage to its victor nuclear war is totally didnt give advantage to its victor nor its victim its like "we won this war and now what?" and as to why is that all i can say that after war i bet theres no way to eat thing without dies due to nuclear mutation of things
@greenrithley5577
@greenrithley5577 Жыл бұрын
@@TK-5311 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrGZfKyQl9fFkp8.html
@CeapaCoolOfficial
@CeapaCoolOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Yo someone's playing this on the wrong computer
@elizataylor1726
@elizataylor1726 2 жыл бұрын
Play it on an off white CRT.. or like.. a projector screen
@golonkowiczpl
@golonkowiczpl 2 жыл бұрын
And HE knows that
@coleisforrobot
@coleisforrobot 2 жыл бұрын
ah f*ck I accidentally bought putin sim
@The_Looker
@The_Looker Жыл бұрын
@@coleisforrobot, aw hell nah bro💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@-thanawat-8296
@-thanawat-8296 Жыл бұрын
@@coleisforrobot 💀💀💀💀💀
@MxAmericanPi
@MxAmericanPi 5 жыл бұрын
"Oh a new video from Polygon! I wonder what light-hearted video game humor Clayton has in store for me today!" *six minutes later* "oh."
@merezko4339
@merezko4339 5 жыл бұрын
Oh No ...
@PuddleOfCats
@PuddleOfCats 5 жыл бұрын
Life and how quickly we can die itself its humor
@mandernachluca3774
@mandernachluca3774 5 жыл бұрын
Don't be to terrified tho, the game lacks geopolitical interactions, therefor it is as from reality as Fallout 4 for example. What they miss completely is the fact that eradicating a whole country by irradiating it completely is not an option for a war, as you always try to gain land, resources, food stock, to gain in power on the way. After we saw the effects of radiation ont the japanese population, nuclear weapons got a mere tool of fear, nothing more. One has note, that i come to this conclusion, because i know that russia and america for example have nuclear weapon technology, that is virtually unstoppable, i am talking about missiles that travel at multiple times the speed of sound for days or even weeks, releasing radioactive material in the process.
@kalebpinkston3495
@kalebpinkston3495 5 жыл бұрын
Mandernach Luca that’s one thing I’ve noticed when people talk about nuclear Armageddon, they always leave out resources. Makes sense why the 2nd launcher would shoot, but the 1st launcher? What would they have to gain other than mutual destruction? And even if they could get away with “minimal “ damage, what then? You can’t conquer the area you nuked.not saying a nuclear war couldn’t happen but there’s a lot of questions I pose that no one cares to ask or answer other than, “cuz it’s inevitable”.well why is it? What could they gain?at the end of the day all countries want 2 things.1 self preservation 2 to conquer, dictate, or gain any sense of control for resources to benefit themselves.
@jwadaow
@jwadaow 5 жыл бұрын
Kaleb Pinkston if you lost territory to an enemy then there is a point at which it becomes rational to attack them with nuclear weapons. That is the application of mutually assured destruction policy to conventional warfare and geopolitics. The storming of west Germany was expected to unfold that way.
@jerguskrc
@jerguskrc 4 жыл бұрын
"No one would ever let it happen" Gandhi: *evil laugh*
4 жыл бұрын
Why Gandhi?
@jerguskrc
@jerguskrc 4 жыл бұрын
@ Because he nukes the shit out of everybody in Civ
@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154
@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 4 жыл бұрын
@ you wouldn't get it ;)
@BasedAlaric
@BasedAlaric 4 жыл бұрын
@ You wouldn't get it *smokes*
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i really don't get it :(
@Goraata
@Goraata Жыл бұрын
“The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.” - Carl Sagan
@Cacowninja
@Cacowninja 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a crappy policy that doesn't really keep people safe. It just creates more instability.
@PATISLAV
@PATISLAV 2 ай бұрын
And not having nuclear weapons now is like standing there with them, with no matches. You just watch what happens.
@elrusito5034
@elrusito5034 2 ай бұрын
​@@PATISLAVthis made me think a bit. Because, sure, big manchildren with nukes have the matches and everyone is drenched in gas, what is the better position? Be powerless to their whims, and pray nothing happens? Or have matches of your own and take up space in the constant taunts and mocking to strike? Made me think of NK, and how their constant missile tests could be more of a "we are here, leave us alone" ploy, instead of a crazy threat to end the world.
@JohnDoe-wt9ek
@JohnDoe-wt9ek 2 ай бұрын
And yet, surprisingly, neither dropped their matches...
@devkit0
@devkit0 2 жыл бұрын
I was playing a round of Survivor mode (which is honestly the best way to play it, especially if you also do it in real time) and I felt real fear and panic as enemy nukes rained down on my territory while my missile defenses tried in vain to stop them. Seeing such enormous death counts in cities I know and have seen in person... it gave me this sinking feeling I can't quite describe. I kept all of my silos in defense mode while everyone else fired their nukes, scrambled every fighter I had to defend the mainland, prevented EVERY sub my enemy had from firing, and yet still I ended up losing about half of my population. Once I knew the other side was dry, I remember thinking, "Well... You asked for it," before targeting every city they had with every warhead in my arsenal. I ended up "winning" that round by a LOT, but it didn't even feel like victory. Like he said in the video, everybody loses.
@commandertoastcz6256
@commandertoastcz6256 5 ай бұрын
This is what I was searching for. The fact that you can defend all you want, try to prevent casualties as much as possible, but in the end... it isn't a victory. Just a slightly lesser defeat.
@thiccchungo1041
@thiccchungo1041 5 ай бұрын
@@commandertoastcz6256also shows how pathetically petty the retaliatory strike is, even though the enemy’s missile systems have been exhausted and their aircraft and fleets destroyed by your forces, you still end up launching an attack on the defenseless civilian centers for no other reason than “you had it coming”
@DarthHoosier3038
@DarthHoosier3038 3 ай бұрын
It reminds me of Avengers Endgame. At the start of the movie, Thanos still won. They killed him, sure. But that didn’t solve anything. Everyone they knew still died. It’s hard to even call it a Pyrrhic Victory. Even Pyrrhus of Epirus would have been deadened and sick by that reality.
@derederekat9051
@derederekat9051 2 ай бұрын
@@thiccchungo1041 what more are you supposed to do? let their infrastructure and population intact so they can invade you 20-30 years later when you are barely rebuilding from the ruins and your young military-ready population is much smaller? nah, let them experience some good radiation rains for a couple of years and deformed babies for generations.
@MntDewEyes
@MntDewEyes 2 ай бұрын
IRL refusing to launch your weapons would stop a full escalation because no other country would commit fully knowing that you still had strike capability which is why MAD works. No one wants to start a strike because waiting is the more beneficial move to make So knowing that you should wait for your enemy to launch and knowing that neither side will win if there is a launch is what brought all the nuclear powers to the negotiating table and cool off tensions
@luthofekisi1730
@luthofekisi1730 3 жыл бұрын
"War is a frightening concept, but this defcon shit scares the hell outta me" - Sun Tzu
@jameswilson2110
@jameswilson2110 3 жыл бұрын
Deftly
@justshrimping742
@justshrimping742 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't said that!!
@streamfroster
@streamfroster 3 жыл бұрын
@@justshrimping742 "Do not trust quotes on the internet, they are fake, they are made-up" - Sun Tzu
@justshrimping742
@justshrimping742 3 жыл бұрын
@@streamfroster wait? He said that as well !? WHATTT IS HAPPEENNINGGGG!!!!1!!1
@larrykapija3183
@larrykapija3183 3 жыл бұрын
Stop quoting my brother -Moon Tzu
@naufalnq
@naufalnq 4 жыл бұрын
How to play Defcon First: install Defcon Second: start nuclear war Third: play defcon
@joskethegreat4154
@joskethegreat4154 4 жыл бұрын
*HOL'UP*
@Walnut_yt
@Walnut_yt 4 жыл бұрын
I think you need to see a psychologist
@acek2016
@acek2016 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no-
@brothinkhecarti69
@brothinkhecarti69 4 жыл бұрын
That's Funn... wait... SON OF A-
@joshcarter2310
@joshcarter2310 4 жыл бұрын
You need to complete step 3 quickly if you did step two well enough
@misiekfid
@misiekfid 2 жыл бұрын
Another terrifying version of a nuclear war is the thermonuclear war event in the TNO mod for Hearts of Iron IV. The event shows children playing, an EAS alarm, destroyed buildings and a child's black outline on a wall (like in hiroshima and nagasaki) while the entire world slowly turns black
@MaliciousIntent327
@MaliciousIntent327 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention your UIs are shattered and reduced to rubble.
@MaliciousIntent327
@MaliciousIntent327 Жыл бұрын
And it shows as "Anarchy" when clicking a state.
@jaredjosephsongheng372
@jaredjosephsongheng372 9 ай бұрын
​@@MaliciousIntent327 And also there is a bloody note on the side that says. "All Gone"
@xeanderman6688
@xeanderman6688 5 ай бұрын
You know what the worst part about DEFCON is? When the game ends and you're shown the scoreboard. There is no fanfare, there is no "You win!". There's just... Silence. There's just you, being shown what you have done
@grandhierophantkhatep685
@grandhierophantkhatep685 4 жыл бұрын
Polygon:”which castlevania monster is sexiest” Also Polygon:”nuclear war”
@sicarius6501
@sicarius6501 4 жыл бұрын
My 2 moods
@estarossa2748
@estarossa2748 4 жыл бұрын
Dojyaaaaan~
@twinkbreaker_
@twinkbreaker_ 4 жыл бұрын
President Valentine?
@GamingWithNikolas
@GamingWithNikolas 4 жыл бұрын
I know right
@filipbabic4913
@filipbabic4913 4 жыл бұрын
D4C
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 3 жыл бұрын
"Yo 1v1 me" Cold war in a nutshell
@aekgir4698
@aekgir4698 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Daniel_Lancelin
@Daniel_Lancelin 3 жыл бұрын
It's more like if the two players with the highest scores on each team suddenly went spectator mode and started placing bets while their teams fought it out.
@gabbyn.3049
@gabbyn.3049 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel_Lancelin No, its the tension of the two smartest kids in class waiting for the teacher to finish their question.
@muchotexto4248
@muchotexto4248 3 жыл бұрын
Cold war is the typical hero VS evil villain lord but both sides are just villain lords. Like instead of the hero with the sword is just a blue version of the enemy dude and they both send pawns to do biddings and said pawns mirror match as noone moves foward cuz both sides are just lords sitting on differently coloured thrones
@MrBlack75922
@MrBlack75922 3 жыл бұрын
Both just camping and hard scoping
@kommiekoathanger1418
@kommiekoathanger1418 2 жыл бұрын
I think the scariest part of this game is that god damn sound design, seriously just hearing that snippet of the audio sent fucking chills down my spine
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
"People die when they are killed" Its a line from Fate Stay Night that got memed to oblivion due to how redundant it was but I think it bears a strong idea on just how valuable a life truly is. You can't "undo" a death. Once its gone, it doesn't come back. This is why its important to value life. Yours and those around you, so even if you don't have much to be grateful for, you can at least tale contempt on the fact that you are alive, and that many others are also alive. Cherish that thought, and try to live making the most of it
@APerson-ni1gb
@APerson-ni1gb Жыл бұрын
Yeah but then your just afraid of death it sounds, besides some people/animals have comeback from death technically and some explain what they experienced, since Every thing in this silly Universe ultimately dies it should be a comforting notion - like it’s a milestone
@cityuser
@cityuser 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the worst part about this game. When you "win", (all else is gone), you don't get a win screen. Just- nothing. Silence. The dreadful silence of millions upon millions of deaths.
@thorstend.888
@thorstend.888 5 жыл бұрын
They could have gone one step further by removing the Score/Point system. Just show the statistics of the casualties. No high score
@birdflox1337
@birdflox1337 5 жыл бұрын
@@thorstend.888 i think the scoring system was used as a metaphor for how the military can sometimes see these statistics as just being mindless numbers
@Ghost_of_Avalon
@Ghost_of_Avalon 5 жыл бұрын
Millions? Billions.
@TheFranciscoFm
@TheFranciscoFm 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost_of_Avalon Nop
@lucianostizzoli2676
@lucianostizzoli2676 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost_of_Avalon Billions? Trillions.
@kiri4186
@kiri4186 4 жыл бұрын
"Somebody has to win" scares me.
@domersftw1503
@domersftw1503 4 жыл бұрын
100th like
@Woodledude
@Woodledude 4 жыл бұрын
What does winning mean when there's so little left? I wonder if they'll care. Because the only alternative is losing. Right?
@nothingbutlove4886
@nothingbutlove4886 3 жыл бұрын
@@jh9981 Because that is the mentality of countries but in this scenario nobody wins
@ArchTazer
@ArchTazer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woodledude I imagine the situation as a situation you shouldn't really think about. If a country would attack you, you have to strike back and everyone loses. period. However, if you think about it, if the enemy already launched the missiles, you can't. Someone has to live, even if it means you don't.
@GunShocka
@GunShocka 3 жыл бұрын
Sombody has to win....but no one is willing to give up
@Thesnakerox
@Thesnakerox Жыл бұрын
One thing about this game that's masterfully done is the way the overall atmosphere slowly, subtly deteriorates as the death count rises. The screen gets darker and the soundscape becomes more desolate, and you don't consciously notice, but it has a powerful effect all the same.
@SeigeGoat
@SeigeGoat 2 жыл бұрын
As a RTS player this is terrifying (BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COLLECT RESOURCES :( )
@shironeko8971
@shironeko8971 5 жыл бұрын
When you turn off the PC but the siren doesn’t stop
@JaseyStudios
@JaseyStudios 5 жыл бұрын
OOF
@badmoth242xl3
@badmoth242xl3 5 жыл бұрын
Hol up
@its-amemegatron.9521
@its-amemegatron.9521 5 жыл бұрын
@@badmoth242xl3 [Last know post made on June 6th 1995 from a KZfaq user that lived in a city along the Waldreich mountains]
@jiggybaba786
@jiggybaba786 5 жыл бұрын
That actually happened one time and I was scared running, tears in my eyes, busting down my parents door to there room... Luckily, I just moved to a different city that had a prison nearby, it was roll call
@epiknis3035
@epiknis3035 5 жыл бұрын
Aight imma head out
@Nawrotsien
@Nawrotsien 3 жыл бұрын
Abraham Lincoln talking about scary game doesn't exist, he can't hurt you Abraham Lincoln talking about scary game:
@woda9291
@woda9291 3 жыл бұрын
Underated comment
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 3 жыл бұрын
Far Cry 5
@scparker6893
@scparker6893 3 жыл бұрын
He has a moustache
@daman7805
@daman7805 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I didn’t understand this comment until like 10 seconds in. Then I fell over and died.
@sleepyrowdy1826
@sleepyrowdy1826 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdiaz3529 Joseph or John?
@mattsgrungy
@mattsgrungy Жыл бұрын
Out of interest: did you ever play the diplomacy mode where all the players start as friends and allies and then scheme behind each other's back? That was my favourite way to play and it was probably the darkest existentially.
@Justanotherpokespepfp
@Justanotherpokespepfp 2 ай бұрын
Christ that’s horrifying.
@AdsAreRuiningEverything
@AdsAreRuiningEverything 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you give power to a bunch of old people that only have 10 years of life left
@slimkid206
@slimkid206 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@cameroni6785
@cameroni6785 2 жыл бұрын
And no kids.
@see4881
@see4881 2 жыл бұрын
Damn
@robertknight2615
@robertknight2615 2 жыл бұрын
Ur probably 14
@see4881
@see4881 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertknight2615 AND YOUR PROBABLY Away down south in the land of traitors Rattlesnakes and alligators Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away Where cotton’s king and men are chattles Union boys will win the battles Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away We’ll all go down to dixie Away, away Each dixie boy must understand That he must mind his uncle sam Away, away We’ll all go down to dixie Away, away I wish I was in baltimore I’d make secession traitors roar right away Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away We'll put the traitors all to route I'll bet my boots we'll whip 'em out Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away We'll all go down to dixie Away, away Each dixie boy must understand That he must mind his uncle sam Away, away We'll all go down to dixie Away, away We'll all go down to dixie Away, away We'll all go down to dixie O may our stars and stripes Still wave forever roar the free and brave Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away And let our motto forever be for union and for liberty Right away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away We'll all go down to dixie Away, away Each dixie boy must understand That he must mind his uncle sam Away, away We'll all go down to dixie! Away, away We’ll all go down To dixie
@SgtCrossHeals
@SgtCrossHeals 3 жыл бұрын
"That is what forgiveness sounds like: screaming and then silence." -A llama, probably
@wooblydooblygod3857
@wooblydooblygod3857 3 жыл бұрын
CAAAAAAAARL
@SteamCase
@SteamCase 3 жыл бұрын
CAAAARRRLLL, why did you point all of Russia's nukes at the U.S.?
@ValcronGaming
@ValcronGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@lumpyheadgames Hey, I said I was going green didn’t I. I wanted to help the environment.
@konradsmith7904
@konradsmith7904 3 жыл бұрын
Carl, why did you start WW3?
@paulbeardsley4095
@paulbeardsley4095 3 жыл бұрын
Reading the Carl comments, I can actually hear his voice.
@needmorecontent6172
@needmorecontent6172 3 жыл бұрын
" There are no winners of war, only survivors and even they die inside from guilt. They only physically survive to warn us. To warn us that there is nothing more terrible than what they have done. "-Jake Fulton
@grenadier6483
@grenadier6483 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 13 and this is deep...
@davidpanchev4465
@davidpanchev4465 3 жыл бұрын
You can't be more accurate than this
@BrutuxMusic
@BrutuxMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@Deo That's some nice coolaid you're drinking, hoping the money put in the military aren't detracting in any way from your inalienable human rights. What's that? You must pay for an education? What's a health insurance?
@lingxiuhan1982
@lingxiuhan1982 3 жыл бұрын
Now we know, the Deep States and some rich houses are behind these wars. There is a reason you have to suffer so much. Don’t like it? No worry, they offer cannibalism and corruption, if you want to end your misery. Guess what, you will take it just like you let the all the things happened in 2020.
@TheBauwssss
@TheBauwssss 3 жыл бұрын
"nothing more terrible that what they *were forced to do* " is more accurate I think. When one is unfortunate enough to find oneself on an active battlefield, fighting for survival, the only true choice is kill or be killed. It sends a chill down my spine just to think about that proposition, about having to indiscriminately and in cold blood take the life of another human being. Another man who might very well have a beautiful wife, not to mention children who will now never get to know their father simply because I believed my life to be more valuable. Another man who, if only times had been different, might even have become my best friend, possibly for life. War truly has no winners, but only pitiful losers, forced to kill indiscriminately and without question, only for the unlucky survivors to end up damaged, broke, lonely and forgotten; rotting away in a veterans home. To use an already horribly overused saying; war never determines who is right, only who is left.
@You_already_know937
@You_already_know937 5 ай бұрын
The unfortunate thing is you were wrong about one thing. In the beginning you described DEFCON 1 as your finger hovering over the big red button. In truth, thats DEFCON 2. At DEFCON 1, the button has been pressed.
@Feshdan
@Feshdan Ай бұрын
@You_already_know937, that's why strategic air command has only moved into DEFCON 2 once if I'm not mistaken
@ebubeynj
@ebubeynj Жыл бұрын
One other thing that ties this topic to Chernobyl is when the nuclear plant explodes the guy in charge does not believe that the core has been exposed. The podcast about the tv show explains that his reaction was because if the core of the nuclear plant had exploded that meant they were all dead. His natural survival instinct caused him to exclude that from the realm of possibility in his mind. Just like the people in the study who thought they would die. If it means certain death we think it is impossible to happen.
@jadenkaramanos7030
@jadenkaramanos7030 5 жыл бұрын
you can’t fool me i know the cassette voice is BDG
@Souleater787
@Souleater787 5 жыл бұрын
I fall asleep to his voice every night before bed I cannot be swayed.
@emilylikesdonuts154
@emilylikesdonuts154 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too XD
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because the study just had a transcript of the comment and polygon made it work better in this medium.
@jvfernandes
@jvfernandes 5 жыл бұрын
It says "dramatic reading"
@albertgore7435
@albertgore7435 5 жыл бұрын
Oh god he’s trapped in that cassette, how do we free him?!
@sebping7205
@sebping7205 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and quite fitting sentence: "Everybody loses, but somebody loses the least"
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 3 жыл бұрын
If they are not more alive, how is that measurable? And how does it actually matter?
@ursosexmachina
@ursosexmachina 3 жыл бұрын
@@VJFranzK Whoever dies last, wins.
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 3 жыл бұрын
@@ursosexmachina We're not talking highschool football, or your FPS here. It's not really a win if there's no one left, friend or foe, to congratulate you. The real, grown-up concept of victory of the human species has been our survival. Survival of future generations isn't possible in a world contaminated by radiation. The "winners" might suffer in the longest, most terrible way.
@aryanbhuta3382
@aryanbhuta3382 3 жыл бұрын
@@VJFranzK More people are alive. If the US loses 100 million but Russia loses 150 million, the US has "won" the nuclear exchange.
@gabsleite5199
@gabsleite5199 3 жыл бұрын
So somebody wins, because losing less than others in any sport = winning, what matters is score compared to the others. Hahaha
@SCP--xi4xv
@SCP--xi4xv 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the rest of the world is on a nuclear rampage and then there's Australia just vibin' As an Australian I am so glad we're an isolated island in the middle of nowhere
@Mobius_118
@Mobius_118 2 жыл бұрын
End of Ze World was suprisingly accurate in this regard.
@fish-from-hell5976
@fish-from-hell5976 Жыл бұрын
There's a book about that called On The Beach, I recommend you read it.
@fish-from-hell5976
@fish-from-hell5976 Жыл бұрын
@Alp Quite true
@wolfsfroth
@wolfsfroth Жыл бұрын
Ya wasn’t the movie *Mad Max* all about that? ... should be fun
@chadfalkin6850
@chadfalkin6850 Жыл бұрын
worry anyway, I think you have some american nuke bases so they'll aim for you too
@normietwiceremoved
@normietwiceremoved 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the horror of this, don't let this distract you from the fact that Mr krabs sold SpongeBobs soul for 62 cents.
@GypsyEveStVixen
@GypsyEveStVixen 2 жыл бұрын
Rofl
@-thanawat-8296
@-thanawat-8296 Жыл бұрын
Damn
@faceboy1392
@faceboy1392 Жыл бұрын
TRUE, i was waiting for someone to point that out
@watchmychannelorelse
@watchmychannelorelse Жыл бұрын
worth it! argargargargargargargargargargargargargargargargargrgargagrggargargragragragrag
@counter-terrordoge3335
@counter-terrordoge3335 5 жыл бұрын
*When you play DEFCON on an Area 51 computer and walk outsde*
@justinbiggs1005
@justinbiggs1005 5 жыл бұрын
I guess there's only 5 days left till we get Nuclear Armageddon. Lmao
@JB-bd2th
@JB-bd2th 5 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment😂😂
@benchmarking6875
@benchmarking6875 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no
@counter-terrordoge3335
@counter-terrordoge3335 4 жыл бұрын
Well we ain’t f*ckin dead yet so...
@seb3522
@seb3522 4 жыл бұрын
There is no outside
@ZvZd
@ZvZd 3 жыл бұрын
During the Cold War, the Soviet Nuclear Forces unofficial moto was "После нас - тишина" ("After us - silence")
@strakhovandrri
@strakhovandrri 3 жыл бұрын
It was and still is Strategic Missile Forces motto.
@aliannamuhammedow358
@aliannamuhammedow358 3 жыл бұрын
О! рашшн
@jinan_hwasal
@jinan_hwasal 3 жыл бұрын
Now i use that as my fam moto xaxaxaxaxa
@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580
@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580 3 жыл бұрын
transliteration: Posle Nas - Tishina
@SSFFRRJJ
@SSFFRRJJ 3 жыл бұрын
(-Krstit će se i ko neće-) motto
@MrOddlyFox
@MrOddlyFox Жыл бұрын
A game I had waited a long time to play, ever since seeing WarGames as a child and learning the nuclear lesson.
@The31stcenturyfox
@The31stcenturyfox 2 жыл бұрын
Only once did I come close to victory in this game. I was North America playing against a human driven South America. I had gotten lucky and eliminated his fleets and subs, his silos and one of his four airforce bases with very little losses on my side. I was trying damn hard to find the other three when he had a launched a full coordinated bomber swarm against new york. I scrambled my jets, my interceptors work marvelously , but no it wasn't enough. First nuke hit. 8.4 million dead popped up another hit shortly followed. No other hits landed, but I felt like I lost, even then. I always played as a fiercely survival based player. Sink their fleets. Down their bombers and stop their nukes, before they launch. Yet it never was enough. I'd always get hit, millions died. I would mop up the rest of that players bases and cities... but nobody ever wins in a nuclear war.
@charlieshaw1512
@charlieshaw1512 3 жыл бұрын
i love how Australia is just in the corner like *everything is fine*
@theslenderfox
@theslenderfox 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody forgets Australia
@Ropetrick6
@Ropetrick6 3 жыл бұрын
@@theslenderfox Eh, the starvation will get them if the natural disasters and wildlife don' t get them first
@TheGPR101
@TheGPR101 3 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)
@Ropetrick6
@Ropetrick6 3 жыл бұрын
@UCXidC8Cir-T8RRKheZ0CeHA I was talking about in case of a nuclear winter, but I can understand where the confusion comes from. Outside of a nuclear winter, you are entirely correct.
@revelaitons3959
@revelaitons3959 3 жыл бұрын
"So now we've got nuclear winter. Everyone's dead 'cept Australia and they're still like "WTF? ^^" But they'll be dead soon... F*ckin kangaroos..."
@Jellomancy
@Jellomancy 5 жыл бұрын
Polygon, my source for goofy video game articles and existential dread.
@spore4ever91
@spore4ever91 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, they had Monster Factory.
@mountplusBladeequals
@mountplusBladeequals 5 жыл бұрын
If they think DEFCON is spooky (it isn't), they should give Superpower 2 a whirl. [kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ft-biqucstqlqok.html] Nothing quite like watching millions of your people die, and your economy crash because of a political blunder.
@mountplusBladeequals
@mountplusBladeequals 5 жыл бұрын
Also - can we stop peddling this "everybody dies" notion, it's making out politicians sloppy and it's just an inaccurate statement. Not even "most people" would die in the event of modern nuclear exchange. Nuclear warheads aren't all that powerful, and people are spread out - killing them, even with nukes, takes 'a lot' of work. China's arsenal for instance is so wimpy that it is mathematically incapable of killing a quarter of the US' populace.
@travisraveller
@travisraveller 5 жыл бұрын
@@mountplusBladeequals but, there is the radiation poisoning, and the fact no life will be able to sustain itself for years, and the fact that most nuclear bomb shelters have been left unattended after the cold war, and that the survivors will die of cancer from the nuclear fallout in the atmosphere... ... Am I missing anything? Not everyone will die, but it will suck for the survivors, not to mention the survivor's guilt and the weakened governments I hope we can agree that we should never have a nuclear war
@cosmix4460
@cosmix4460 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad how they didn't launched a single bomb in the Philippines.
@JimmyJohnJahames
@JimmyJohnJahames Жыл бұрын
you know the worst part could be just being inside the ISS and just watching the earth slowly light up as bright lights flash through the atmosphere and the earth slowly fading to a red/black color of what is now left
@SketchyLizord
@SketchyLizord 2 жыл бұрын
sometimes I lay down in bed and imagine that split second where my house would be blown away, my skin melted, everything I've known and loved is extinct all before even hearing the boom of the explosion... just because a man in a suit wanted his way. What if that's happening right now? I want to believe I'll be able to get a warning, maybe survive... but would I really want to? Maybe it's best I'm oblivious when I die. It's a whole new kind of fear.
@Uajd-hb1qs
@Uajd-hb1qs 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I’ve always said. The only thing I’d hope in a nuclear war is I get enough warning to get to a possible target so I can stand right under the fireball. You’ll be vaporised so quick, you wouldn’t technically die, just be instantly converted to a few basic elements, no pain, just gone. I hope we’ll never have to consider that though. But trust me, go out with the bang, not the fallout.
@snappy-IV
@snappy-IV 2 ай бұрын
If I saw a big flash and knew that it was a nuclear bomb and imminent death was coming. I'd crack a beer and make my peace.
@powerfulberry237
@powerfulberry237 5 жыл бұрын
" *DEFCON* stands for *Def* ense, Readiness and *Con* dition." Readiness: "Am I a joke to you"
@DTSephiroth
@DTSephiroth 5 жыл бұрын
Yes... Readiness is always the joke... Because nobody is ready for the end of the world.
@huntexlee
@huntexlee 5 жыл бұрын
@@DTSephiroth deep
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 5 жыл бұрын
Because we don't want to say DEFRECON. That doesn't roll off the tongue as well
@vgman94
@vgman94 5 жыл бұрын
米空軍パイロット We all prefer to use DECEPTICON instead.
@equintrinity8678
@equintrinity8678 5 жыл бұрын
It should be *DREADCON* *D* efense *Read* iness *Con* dition
@lovaszaron3138
@lovaszaron3138 3 жыл бұрын
DEFCON 5: Peace. DEFCON 4: Ready for war. DEFCON 3: War. DEFCON 2: Total war. DEFCON 1: The peace of unburied dead.
@historymarshal2704
@historymarshal2704 3 жыл бұрын
"To simulate Nuclear Strike, douse the table in kerosene and toss a match on it." -Official NATO Wargame, probably apocryphal
@archierockford1490
@archierockford1490 3 жыл бұрын
That’s grim.
@lovaszaron3138
@lovaszaron3138 3 жыл бұрын
@@historymarshal2704 Quite fitting.
@lovaszaron3138
@lovaszaron3138 3 жыл бұрын
@@archierockford1490 Yes. It is.
@stalavosvergrimm9664
@stalavosvergrimm9664 3 жыл бұрын
DEFCON 2: Rome has entered the chat
@microraptorguyxu_et_al2431
@microraptorguyxu_et_al2431 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video now makes it even more scarier and eerie
@maracachucho8701
@maracachucho8701 Жыл бұрын
I can see my younger self playing this game psychopathically trying to wipe out as many humans as possible. I feel like I now understand why most people in a position of power tend to be on the older side.
@V1kN1k
@V1kN1k 4 жыл бұрын
Plague inc: who are you Defcon: I'm you but scarier *this has seriously not aged well*
@Zeus-ud2jl
@Zeus-ud2jl 4 жыл бұрын
They're both pretty scary
@Shadow_Witch
@Shadow_Witch 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeus-ud2jl I mean, Plague Inc isn't scary after you get the message ''JOE MAMA killed over 5 million people'''
@killerfishe5092
@killerfishe5092 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeus-ud2jl yeah but plauge inc is more abstract
@Zeus-ud2jl
@Zeus-ud2jl 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow_Witch lol yea but the atmosphere it gives and the noises it makes and you think this could happen
@Zeus-ud2jl
@Zeus-ud2jl 4 жыл бұрын
@@killerfishe5092 still spooks me think it could happen
@curiousteddie
@curiousteddie 5 жыл бұрын
Polygon: come for the funny stuff and stay for the existential dread! I guess I've got a new game on my list now
@shinluis
@shinluis 5 жыл бұрын
same
@josephray459
@josephray459 5 жыл бұрын
What can you play it on?
@redumulis2448
@redumulis2448 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and body horror. Lots of body horror.
@shinluis
@shinluis 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephray459 it's on steam! :)
@zackfreeland6420
@zackfreeland6420 5 жыл бұрын
It’s free on steam, calls it the demo but it’s really not
@user-qx4bw1pv8u
@user-qx4bw1pv8u 2 жыл бұрын
2020 year: Plague inc IRL 2022 year: DEFCON IRL
@khathecleric
@khathecleric 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game and was convinced that nuclear war was certain, only because someone would lose less and a dictator can stomach such losses. And then Putin decided to prove me right
@kovenmaitreya7184
@kovenmaitreya7184 2 жыл бұрын
Yup listening to him say that and listening to the Gulag Archipelago..... I'm terrified rn
@alley4978
@alley4978 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and a relic of cold war in charge of USA in 21th century has nothing to do with it
@crazywind3214
@crazywind3214 3 жыл бұрын
Plague inc: I fear no man, but that thing *DEFCON* plague inc: *it scares me*
@MediHusky
@MediHusky 3 жыл бұрын
*stares at madagascar in a cold sweat* Yea that's what I'm scared of.
@ImKevax
@ImKevax 3 жыл бұрын
In plague inc, the humanity dies by a sickness In DEFECON, the humanity dies by a war
@Cusi48
@Cusi48 3 жыл бұрын
Defecon
@aegeanharrier6648
@aegeanharrier6648 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImKevax At least sickness dies alongside us in defcon. A nucler explosion is like sun on earth. I doubt anything survives that heat
@stiflash
@stiflash 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImKevax *In DEFCON, humanity dies by it's own hand FTFY
@redhen2470
@redhen2470 3 жыл бұрын
"Peace is our Profession." "War is just a hobby" Strategic Air Command
@alexeyrodiontsev4978
@alexeyrodiontsev4978 3 жыл бұрын
"After us - silence". © Strategic Missile Forces
@akhaaneb9710
@akhaaneb9710 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexeyrodiontsev4978 well that's so much darker
@octo1894
@octo1894 3 жыл бұрын
I agree; more countries need to make nukes to enforce the peace against a certain belligerent going around bombing, invading and spreading coups
@ThatSlovakGuy
@ThatSlovakGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hotel is Trivago
@Pabloto-dq3sx
@Pabloto-dq3sx 3 жыл бұрын
@Panzerkampfwagen VI ...deez
@minutemanthezealoustiger1499
@minutemanthezealoustiger1499 Жыл бұрын
Russian Nuclear Motto: "After us, only silence."
@nicolaspinson8981
@nicolaspinson8981 Жыл бұрын
The algorithm really playin with us 💀
@cmd31220
@cmd31220 3 жыл бұрын
I love Defcon. The thing that shocked me the most about the AI in the game is that if you try to play "realistically", where the goal is hitting military targets instead of just taking out major cities, you get completely destroyed almost every time. It's like they purposefully designed the game to say "no, a nuclear war can only be won through mass murder.....so don't freaking do it"
@atigerclaw
@atigerclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Hitting cities _is_ realistic in nuclear war. Industrialized warfare is dependent on manpower and production. You hit cities, you destroy factories, obliterate shipyards, kill off skilled workers, and their families... You're not just winning a war by defeating the enemy's existing forces and driving them back. You're destroying a population's ability to even _participate_ in anything even remotely approaching industrialized warfare for *generations*. Escalating to DEFCON 1 is All or Nothing. If you don't have the gumption to take a deep breath, and push the button, and make the opposition pay in equal blood to what they just launched on you,? Then you die. And nobody will be around to care since the only thing you're really doing is that the other guy is just as crippled as to have to spend just as much time as you to rebuild society. It's PURE retaliation logic. And it helps manage MAD by the concept that even if we know we're going to die, we're vindictive enough to take the other side with us. DEFCON operates on the simple assumption that for whatever reason, MAD has broken down, nations are on the edge, and the time for 'limited' warfare has passed you like a Porsche going the other way. It IS possible to actually... WIN a game of DEFCON. When I say win, I MEAN win. No losses of population. I've done it precisely once. It required some pretty fine-tuned management of your silos swapping from ABM and Silo mode and a little bit of praying to RNGeezus that the enemy nations distributed their ICBM launches juuuuuust right.
@ShawnJonesHellion
@ShawnJonesHellion 2 жыл бұрын
why mass murder the ai if the point of the game is seeing they have been attacking you all along an you are their god
@garygrant91
@garygrant91 2 жыл бұрын
Realistically, limiting targeting to only military assets could only work if you made a preemptive strike during DEFCON 5 or 4 on New Year's Eve when everyone is drunk. You might have some success at DEFCON 3 but you are still going to be hurt bad. At DEFCON 2 or 1 you will be hitting empty silos (their counter strike will be in the air, headed towards you) or conventional units which pose no threat to you. All that assumes that you launch first. If you are reacting to their launch, your only choice is to do nothing in the hopes that they survive or you can ensure that they burn with you.
@John_winston
@John_winston 2 жыл бұрын
@@atigerclaw The winning with population intact sounds very interesting,is there any video or step to step to do it ?
@atigerclaw
@atigerclaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbrendan5170 There isn't. Like I said, I did it precisely once and I'm pretty sure I couldn't duplicate it on demand because it requires both crazy-good handling of when and where you switch your silos, and a good chunk of RNGeezus. Who shoots at who at what time and how much so as not to overwhelm your defenses. I'd think of it more like winning a card game. There's skill involved, but it comes down to what you're dealt.
@texan_commando
@texan_commando 3 жыл бұрын
"The things that's more terrifying than someone who wants to win, is someone who doesn't want to lose..."
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 3 жыл бұрын
the only ever 2 bombs used was for that reason, its really terrifying. how you fight something who is not afraid of dying, they will never lose. it was really useful we had a thing to really put fear in their hearths (and it took 2, when only one should have sufficed, that level of not wanting to lose...). I would totally chose that option if I were in the same place, who wouldn't ? two splashes and it ended the war. people like to talk about the cost of lives, but with that enemy, nothing would stop it, that probably saved more lives than the never-ending thousand year war. The other option would be surrender, good luck with that, the imperator would just kill you, because of their moral code that punish deserters, and you deserted your country (an enemy of the enemy is not an ally), so you must die too , not to mention horrific things that would make literal hitler puke.
@brian14021994
@brian14021994 3 жыл бұрын
@@monad_tcp if they didn't use nuclear weapons, the war in Japan would've extended by a few years, but the outcome would've been the same. Some argue that if they killed the god-emperor of Japan, they would've surrendered. Either way, nuking 2 cities like that, killing over 200k citizens...it's unforgiveable.
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 3 жыл бұрын
@@brian14021994 so youd rather them invade and risk killing millions more than the nukes would have?
@coregontrail3481
@coregontrail3481 3 жыл бұрын
What’s more terrifying than someone who doesn’t want to lose, is someone who doesn’t care if they do, as long as you don’t win.
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 3 жыл бұрын
@@coregontrail3481 and thats why N.Korea having nukes has the world on edge
@Jay2JayGaming
@Jay2JayGaming 8 ай бұрын
During the time of the Cold War, we basically didn't have the ability to deploy anti-nuclear defensive technologies on any kind of scale, and so nuclear war might as well have been two dudes fighting naked with swords. But now we do. What's more, Nuclear War is fundamentally the same as all other modern war, just on a larger scale: it is a competition that pits one nation's industrial base against another's. With SDI type technologies deployed in mass around the world, Nuclear War just becomes War again. And mark my words, it will happen. The only thing that kept MAD going was the fact it was that or nothing. Now you can conceivably be safe. And Safety is literally a psychological need for human beings. It is only a matter of time.
@friedrichderhohevonweedman6093
@friedrichderhohevonweedman6093 2 жыл бұрын
Just looking at the game screen with all those missiles flying and "Launch Detected" popping up over and over all over the world is on it's own one of the most horrifying things I ever saw.
@sirdurtle9519
@sirdurtle9519 3 жыл бұрын
0:50 Actually, DEFCON 1 is like every finger and usable appendage mashing as many big red buttons as possible
@kathrynb.kavanagh2621
@kathrynb.kavanagh2621 3 жыл бұрын
*bodyslams the nuke table*
@horrorbeyondhumancomprehension
@horrorbeyondhumancomprehension 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathrynb.kavanagh2621 GIBBEH OOF
@stoicbubble5755
@stoicbubble5755 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s actually having 100’s of robots at high speed pressing 100’s of buttons per second for each robot
@fnutarf2085
@fnutarf2085 3 жыл бұрын
paniiiik!!! mode activated
@bluewardog
@bluewardog 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah DEFCON 1 is nuclear war. 2 is nuclear war is imminent
@mikemar2002
@mikemar2002 5 жыл бұрын
I used to play this years ago as a kid, I had no idea scientists did studies on it that's dope
@El_Presidente_5337
@El_Presidente_5337 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid? How old is the game?
@mikemar2002
@mikemar2002 5 жыл бұрын
@@El_Presidente_5337 it came out in 06
@El_Presidente_5337
@El_Presidente_5337 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemar2002 O . O
@kurdonthego
@kurdonthego 5 жыл бұрын
Where do I get this?
@KingMoronProductions
@KingMoronProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@@kurdonthego Steam! Great developer too, check out their other projects ^-^
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 2 жыл бұрын
I'd *love* a realistic nuclear war simulator. Like, you get a launch detection, but no idea where it's heading until your radar has calculated its freefall ballistic trajectory during it's terminal phase, so the first half of its flight, you're left in the dark. Thousands of weapons, interceptors, MIRVs, decoys, tactical weapons, counter force/value, first and second strikes, decapitations, loss of command and control, it'd be so COOL
@zekeyeager6444
@zekeyeager6444 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see that
@TDOPB
@TDOPB 10 ай бұрын
@@zekeyeager6444 Check out Espiocracy (comes out in 2024) - I don't know if it'll go super in depth with the actual nuking (It probably will though), but it's an awesome spy game and it WILL have nuclear war - And assuming some of your agents survive, you can even keep kicking and screaming after the exchange ends. In fact, the nuclear war will be less "Nuclear war" and more cold war era sabre rattling (with a chance of nuclear war if a LOT of mistakes are made), so it'll be even more realistic than what isbestlizard wants.
@TDOPB
@TDOPB 10 ай бұрын
Check out Espiocracy. I go more in depth in my reply to the other commenter on your comment, so feel free to read it.
@oscarsandy2234
@oscarsandy2234 Жыл бұрын
0:51 Defcon 1 is pressing the big red button and Defcon 2 is having your finger hovering over it
@declanvanarkel9094
@declanvanarkel9094 5 жыл бұрын
Safe to see that us Australians are safe from total nuclear annihilation
@XxExCaLiBuRrXx
@XxExCaLiBuRrXx 5 жыл бұрын
Declan Van Arkel they left you guys out because you already got terrifying animals that’s worse than even the nukes
@qas2644
@qas2644 5 жыл бұрын
Come on your country loses to your own national animals....pretty sure you're no threat to the world yet lol(this a joke btw)
@declanvanarkel9094
@declanvanarkel9094 5 жыл бұрын
Omega Storm ahaha I can’t argue with you there
@bigberther7368
@bigberther7368 5 жыл бұрын
Incoming fallout for us Aussies.
@adisappointedfbiagent449
@adisappointedfbiagent449 5 жыл бұрын
That's because the nukes just go to space rather then hit Australia because everything is upside-down.
@TheBurg229
@TheBurg229 5 жыл бұрын
Worldwide delivery in 30 minutes or less, or your next one is free!
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 5 жыл бұрын
We are talking about colony delivery, yes?
@whatinthefuckisahandle
@whatinthefuckisahandle 5 жыл бұрын
We talking about big ass smoke mushrooms
@ryanklinkerman5180
@ryanklinkerman5180 5 жыл бұрын
lol minuteman III
@felicianoabe
@felicianoabe 5 жыл бұрын
Extra cheese please
@TheBurg229
@TheBurg229 5 жыл бұрын
felicianoabe I prefer extra mushrooms
@WAVE0025
@WAVE0025 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq, you seriously recommending this to us in a time where nuclear war is genuinely the closest it has been to happening since the cold war?
@popcultureprogrammer2171
@popcultureprogrammer2171 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq algorithm, the all seeing eye
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 Жыл бұрын
The algorithm responds to trends. People search, it responds. Nothing more.
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this video before(and WAR GAMES). It is November 15, 2022. Poland just got hit by Russia. Good job algorithm! "Millions of Civilians" sounds like a growth album/song tittle.
@thomasparkin259
@thomasparkin259 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe playing DEFCON should be mandatory for politicians, just to hammer home the futility of nuclear warfare.
@silverish9081
@silverish9081 5 жыл бұрын
Considering how a lot of politicians are likely to be actual psychopaths, I don't think it will help much.
@ollycoyote
@ollycoyote 5 жыл бұрын
You act as if politicians care about people
@pbonfanti
@pbonfanti 5 жыл бұрын
Will not make any difference or they would not be politicians themselves.
@papabear6431
@papabear6431 5 жыл бұрын
I mean they probably know, and if they dont know about the consequences, 😂😂well we call them kim jong un
@tristantriton8115
@tristantriton8115 5 жыл бұрын
why play this game if they can slowly perform it in real life?
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 5 жыл бұрын
The subtle coughing and crying in the soundtrack is just so unbelievably perfect.
@clanofclams2720
@clanofclams2720 5 жыл бұрын
...isn't that plague Inc?
@screamingghoul4108
@screamingghoul4108 5 жыл бұрын
@@clanofclams2720 in the video it talks about coughing and crying in the soundtrack.
@clanofclams2720
@clanofclams2720 5 жыл бұрын
@@screamingghoul4108 no it dudn't
@screamingghoul4108
@screamingghoul4108 5 жыл бұрын
@@clanofclams2720 2:46 yes it did? here, he talks about.
@clanofclams2720
@clanofclams2720 5 жыл бұрын
@@screamingghoul4108 nah, he dudn't
@zenogodofeverything3519
@zenogodofeverything3519 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just a lesson for people that are older to understand that it's okay to be afraid
@hoodsom3
@hoodsom3 2 жыл бұрын
Update March 18, 2022: Please don't let DEFCON be real for GOD sake. PLEASE.
@pops7249
@pops7249 2 жыл бұрын
tribes living in deep forest : unga bunga!
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 5 жыл бұрын
- How tough am I? I played this game DEFCON. - Yeah so? - Without getting scared. - ... Right this way
@echo12345ish
@echo12345ish 4 жыл бұрын
So does that mean that Sandy would be the first person to send off nukes?
@Thlormby
@Thlormby 4 жыл бұрын
The game isn’t even that scary. It’s actually great. Polygon reporters are just overdramatic
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 4 жыл бұрын
I mean actually it's not scary at all, I know.
@pouzivateljutube2995
@pouzivateljutube2995 4 жыл бұрын
That's the point. The scarry thing is that the game isn't scarry.
@Thlormby
@Thlormby 4 жыл бұрын
Používaťeľ JUtUbe no, it’s not the point. It’s just a fun strategy game where you launch nuclear missiles at each other. Everyone tries way too hard to get internet points by being a pseudo intellectual.
@ottovonweaboo6355
@ottovonweaboo6355 4 жыл бұрын
This whole concept is so damn scary.... reminds me of the Russian strategic missile forces moto ¨ _After us... silence_ ¨
@PhillyBoyBcn
@PhillyBoyBcn 4 жыл бұрын
OttoVonWeaboo how about Putin’s very frank declaration that “Why would we [Russians] need a world if there’s no more Russia in it?”
@Psydvckthefirst
@Psydvckthefirst 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyBoyBcn Well from Russian point of view it's pretty clear lol. Why would Russians need the world without home?
@admiralprince7925
@admiralprince7925 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to reality The scariest game to date
@magpineapple
@magpineapple 4 жыл бұрын
a bunch of creatures with sentience grouping together, ending millions of lives for the feeling of power
@Sidewinder627
@Sidewinder627 4 жыл бұрын
OttoVonWeaboo Woah, strong motto that one
@francesco5254
@francesco5254 Жыл бұрын
"Nuclear war is inevitable, because it's a game. Somebody has to win." Ngl this hit pretty hard
@valcanoman1829
@valcanoman1829 4 ай бұрын
Yes but in nuclear war: everybody dies because in nuclear war there are no winners. First the alarms from the sirens and the screams from those who are panicking before the nukes go off and then silence and crying. Grim silence.
@jacksonbruce2386
@jacksonbruce2386 2 жыл бұрын
Remember kids it's not a red button It's two keys 21 ft apart that are spring loaded that you have to hold for two seconds.
@somebitch1225
@somebitch1225 4 жыл бұрын
“Moscow has been hit” me: metro time
@MICROKNIGHT3000
@MICROKNIGHT3000 4 жыл бұрын
pls
@somebitch1225
@somebitch1225 4 жыл бұрын
[\^/] 343 Guilty Spark it’s the only good thing to come out of Russia being nuked. And for America it’s fallout
@itsthatdude4814
@itsthatdude4814 4 жыл бұрын
Ah,nothing like squatting with comrades in Metro Moscow
@anhduc0913
@anhduc0913 4 жыл бұрын
@ ah, imagine a crossover, for both metro and fallout to meet. Old enemies, now just survival in a collapsed world, but is rebuilding or dieing out depends on how you see it.
@alt8791
@alt8791 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a reference to the secret KGB metro in Moscow that *100% doesn't exist*
@shaftoe195
@shaftoe195 3 жыл бұрын
Plague Inc: _What... what are you?*_ DEFCON: _The end. _*_Of the world._*
@eco1969
@eco1969 3 жыл бұрын
the plague just kills humans, defcon kills life itself
@TheWulf899
@TheWulf899 3 жыл бұрын
Except Australia, we're fine down here
@CarlosRuiz20
@CarlosRuiz20 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWulf899 until nuclear winter begins...
@edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650
@edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosRuiz20 thats right if fallaout teach something: "if the bo,b dont kill you the secondary effects will do it"
@agente7202
@agente7202 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they make second game mode where you...yes you become the UN leader (United Nations) and prevent the world from killing itself *Dictator gamemode:Can you destroy the world?* *Humanity last hope gamemode: Can you save the world?*
@suroot
@suroot 2 жыл бұрын
Were currently at DEFCON 4. The pieces are being moved into place. Even the rarely seen version of Air Force One has been deployed.
@user-sd8ux3vz3v
@user-sd8ux3vz3v 2 жыл бұрын
This video ages well
@scythe5739
@scythe5739 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@brockmckelvey7327
@brockmckelvey7327 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, a new Polygon video! I'll watch it on my lunch break. ...Hey boss, I'm gonna take the rest of the day off due to existential dread
@bismarckfamily277
@bismarckfamily277 3 жыл бұрын
I've counted every single nuke in defcon I think they're only around 650 The world has more than 12.000 nukes
@finnlikesplanes7110
@finnlikesplanes7110 3 жыл бұрын
uh oh
@havvayokus3200
@havvayokus3200 3 жыл бұрын
the game is about cold war so ICBM's came out new in the cold war era
@carlredfield1693
@carlredfield1693 3 жыл бұрын
12?
@chalichaligha3234
@chalichaligha3234 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlredfield1693 In continental Europe, it is common for commas and periods to be swapped e.g: 10,000.1 (ten thousand point one) is written as 10.000,1
@MalikCarr
@MalikCarr 3 жыл бұрын
The huge numbers - and it's far reduced from the height of the Cold War in the 80s - was a calculus between NATO and the Soviets that if the other side launched a pre-emptive strike most of the nuclear arsenal would be destroyed on the ground before it could launch. Therefore, even assuming you've lost the vast majority of your own nuclear weapons, you'd still theoretically have enough left to retaliate and destroy whoever attacked you. This acts as a deterrent against the other side launching that pre-emptive strike in the first place. Since no nuclear wars have started since, the theory works.
@froogsleegs
@froogsleegs 2 жыл бұрын
the implication is that simply allowing nations to have nuclear weapons leads to a perpetually escalating arms race, and someone will eventually, inevitably use it. on a long enough timeline, as long as nuclear weapons exist, this is almost certain
@PhoenixLive_YT
@PhoenixLive_YT 2 жыл бұрын
1 very important fact to consider here: people recognize the difference between games and reality, you will use your nuke whenever possible in a game because you know that nobody will suffer because of them, because it's just a game.
@Andrevvw
@Andrevvw 2 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, the only thing that differenciates game and reality is the lack of consequences. That’s what makes you kill npcs or cops for fun in gta for example, because you won’t get killed or arrested irl for that. Funny enough lack of (personal) consequences is the same thing that i think would make high ranks to press the button.
@Siptom369
@Siptom369 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the new guy in NORAD accidentally switches DEFCON to 1 because he thinks that's safe mode.
@v44n7
@v44n7 3 жыл бұрын
I am always curious If nuclear powers actually need to select their targets during a nuclear war or they are just stored data and to avoid wasting time they just aim to every single city in the world
@Viraqua
@Viraqua 3 жыл бұрын
@@v44n7 The more likely scenario is they have tactical targeting abilities so they can fire one or more missiles in a counter retaliatory or preemptive strike, and predetermined scenarios to target military, industrial, infrastructure, and civilian assets based on which country they're going to war with and where/when/how hard to strike in a given wave, from limited to total release. So a destination bar with an optional drop down country menu.
@robinhood5627
@robinhood5627 3 жыл бұрын
@@v44n7 Aside from submarine based missiles all land silos have pre determined primary and secondary targets pre programmed into the launch systems. Sub based are more fluid and reactionary missile system where the commander can very quickly give them new coordinates as needed. Even so sub commanders will also have predetermined targets in his deployment orders package. Generally targets for multiple nuclear hits will be ports, major industrial sites, and military sites. Secondary targets are large population centers such as cities and large towns.
@jameshealer1395
@jameshealer1395 3 жыл бұрын
that is exactly why there are no new people in places like these
@haroldthaf
@haroldthaf 3 жыл бұрын
It was Mike again?
@milutinke
@milutinke 5 жыл бұрын
Did you know what is the motto of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces ? "After us - silence"
@slavicboi425
@slavicboi425 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that scary
@milutinke
@milutinke 5 жыл бұрын
@@slavicboi425 indeed
@thehotdogman9317
@thehotdogman9317 5 жыл бұрын
Besides the ticking of some geiger counters...
@MrOverkillking
@MrOverkillking 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds both even more terrifying and self-aware sad in Russian
@Novasky2007
@Novasky2007 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone is too afraid to use them now. Luckily.
@jenzelarevalo1086
@jenzelarevalo1086 Жыл бұрын
I just watched a documentary about the Japanese survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So freaking horrific and disturbing this carnage two nuclear bombs had caused. People’s skins were peeling and people were rotting alive due to radiation. The gameplay was super hard to watch after seeing that documentary
@Mastersharkmapping
@Mastersharkmapping Жыл бұрын
TNO: *allow me to introduce myself*
@alfredoramos-ck5ir
@alfredoramos-ck5ir 8 ай бұрын
"scariest game ever" brotherhood of cain (post-taboristky) events
@Justanotherpokespepfp
@Justanotherpokespepfp 2 ай бұрын
Yep.
@zildiun2327
@zildiun2327 3 жыл бұрын
“Peace was never an option.” -Some goose from a meme
@DerAykac
@DerAykac 3 жыл бұрын
Animalogic?
@zildiun2327
@zildiun2327 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerAykac No, it’s a meme. Look up “peace was never an option goose” and you’ll find it
@lilchristuten7568
@lilchristuten7568 3 жыл бұрын
@@zildiun2327 You sure it's a goose?
@Bell-47
@Bell-47 3 жыл бұрын
@@zildiun2327 it’s from a untitled goose game
@Pinkcircleguy
@Pinkcircleguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilchristuten7568 ye
@falloutrains2641
@falloutrains2641 3 жыл бұрын
When bombs hit cities or bases in your territory you can actually hear muffled nuclear explosions.
@TheMare1989
@TheMare1989 2 жыл бұрын
Its been 6 months, Gerald. He's dead.
@wlwgwlwgnomesarereal
@wlwgwlwgnomesarereal 2 ай бұрын
In another telling, Truman claimed he offered Oppenheimer a handkerchief, saying, "Well here, would you like to wipe your hands?"
@AgentAbel
@AgentAbel Жыл бұрын
Who's here because of current world events?
@chesscomsupport8689
@chesscomsupport8689 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm also here because of Kanye
@Cerulean_azure15
@Cerulean_azure15 Жыл бұрын
I came here after coldline
@TheSlayerV1
@TheSlayerV1 4 жыл бұрын
Polygon: Defcon is terrifying because of nuclear annihilation. Me: Launches a nuke back at that bastard Gandhi in Civ V
@andycheng4436
@andycheng4436 4 жыл бұрын
AI: wants uranium also AI: 3 gold/turn. take it or leave it.
@Redawesomeoby
@Redawesomeoby 4 жыл бұрын
America: Defcon China: Plague inc Australia: Firewatch
@midlanismail416
@midlanismail416 4 жыл бұрын
Nooo
@etman05
@etman05 4 жыл бұрын
We're all Plague inc now
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382 4 жыл бұрын
hol up
@gtPacheko
@gtPacheko 4 жыл бұрын
Brazil: Counter Strike
@funibikeman6769
@funibikeman6769 4 жыл бұрын
Middle East: cod
@guna14146
@guna14146 Жыл бұрын
"In DEFCON everyone loses" Oceania is having a laugh.
@PT-91_Twardy
@PT-91_Twardy 2 жыл бұрын
Scary how close we are to our lives turning into a statistic in a DEFCON game.
@nick8670
@nick8670 5 жыл бұрын
this is kinda like plegue inc. but nukes
@SuperHperTube
@SuperHperTube 5 жыл бұрын
Plague*
@ravtail2781
@ravtail2781 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ 5 жыл бұрын
In Plague Inc there's no fight, and you're just a bacteria trying to follow the circle of life but here it's actual humans cassuing mass deaths of one another through vaporizing each other's flesh
@jj.jayjay.
@jj.jayjay. 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saint_Wolf_ Plague Inc Is Also Mass Human deaths If You win You Kill Every Single Human
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@jj.jayjay. Sure but in terms of how things work, one is just a bacteria/virus, here's the progress of technology halting itself through its own makers.
@LoneWulff829
@LoneWulff829 3 жыл бұрын
“I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
@masquerademage
@masquerademage 3 жыл бұрын
of all the quotes here, i think this is the most chilling
@beenchillin2yill197
@beenchillin2yill197 3 жыл бұрын
@@masquerademage This was a quote by Albert Einstein he worked on the Manhattan project in the early days but once he saw the devastation the nukes can cause he noped out
@strelkazorz
@strelkazorz 3 жыл бұрын
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. World War V will be fought with crossbows, World War VI will be lasers, and World War VII will be blowguns. I don't know about World Wars VIII through XI. World War XII will use the same weapons as III, but will be fought entirely within underground tunnels. World War XIV will-Hey, come back! I have a whole list!"
@pyramidteam9961
@pyramidteam9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@strelkazorz "World war XXIII is the kicker, because it's back to sticks and stones from there..."
@123GOHANZ
@123GOHANZ 2 жыл бұрын
You know I always thought this quote to be stupid. Don’t get me wrong I get the idea that if a nuclear exchange ever occurred there’s a high likelihood that civilization as we know it would be forced to restart so the message was never lost on me, no, I just don’t like the implication that a future where another war of such epic proportions could be waged that it’d be deemed a “World War” would not have societies with technology above that of a caveman’s.
@dapweb9373
@dapweb9373 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you got recommended this now is no coincidence…
@Quantum_Bluntz
@Quantum_Bluntz Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about this game is that the player doesn't actually die, the people in the game do. It's almost like the "player" is an alien controlling and playing with humans to destroy the world.
@navy3001
@navy3001 Жыл бұрын
The game says your a general in a undergound bunker, safe from the nukes
@carlthetuber4615
@carlthetuber4615 4 жыл бұрын
notice how Australia doesn't get hit once nor does it have warnings on it.
@cezariusus7595
@cezariusus7595 4 жыл бұрын
*MATE*
@carlthetuber4615
@carlthetuber4615 4 жыл бұрын
@Vermin Supreme yeah i guess
@dragonhearted7761
@dragonhearted7761 4 жыл бұрын
@Vermin Supreme assuming we werent already a wasteland before
@davidj3841
@davidj3841 4 жыл бұрын
Emus are ready bad enough, they don't want mutated ones
@Nicolai0Nerland
@Nicolai0Nerland 4 жыл бұрын
WTF ^^
@camelbob8568
@camelbob8568 5 жыл бұрын
DEFCON is the most terrifying game I have ever played. Scarier than any "scary" game has ever been.
@vr8652
@vr8652 5 жыл бұрын
What about Metal Gear 2? That one has the ending that still worries us today
@summer-wb2ps
@summer-wb2ps 5 жыл бұрын
Minecraft story mode.
@Reynevan100
@Reynevan100 5 жыл бұрын
@@vr8652 MGS 2 even predicted memes and meme culture! Scary o.O
@supermeowskers
@supermeowskers 5 жыл бұрын
Spec ops the line?
@manictiger
@manictiger 5 жыл бұрын
I found it to be somewhat depressing. Like, I'm in a bunker, completely safe from this shitstorm, but... Look at what we've done! Look at how much we've destroyed! There won't be anything to "conquer". It'll all be gone!
@domenico9992
@domenico9992 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone here because is afraid of actual nuclear war??
@CokeAColaMan1
@CokeAColaMan1 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that not all the countries allow units to be placed. Of note are North Korea and Pakistan, which are both countries armed with nuclear weapons, yet they don't have any units there. Australia in particular isn't part of any of the 6 selectable territories. Then it hit me: Those countries aren't the military bases. They're the battlefields.
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