PONY CAR SHOOTOUT | Z28, Challenger T/A, Boss 302, & Javelin

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2 жыл бұрын

Testing the world's fastest, most powerful, best all-around classic SMALL BLOCK Muscle Car! From sheer horsepower to emergency braking, these cars are pushed to the limits!
Legendary Motorcar & Dream Car Garage present SMALL BLOCK SHOOTOUT! 4 small block muscle cars. 1 winner.
The Small Block Shootout tests 4 pony cars, representing the street versions of the legendary Trans Am cars that battled it out on road courses across North America during the 1969 and 1970 seasons.
The small block cars will compete in 1/4 mile and braking tests, but this time we will also be taking them to the road course to see how these factory original cars live up to their racing reputation.
Starring:
1970 AMC Javelin SST
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A
1. 1970 Javelin SST
AMC Javelin SST V-8 360-4 4-speed (man. 4) in 1970, the model with 2-door fastback hardtop coupe body and V-8 5896 cm3 / 359.8 cui, 216 kW / 294 PS / 290 hp (SAE gross) offered since September 1969 for North America . According to the ProfessCars™ estimation this AMC would accelerate 0-60 mph in 6.1 sec, 0-100 km/h in 6.5 sec and quarter mile time is 14.8 sec. This car is 4852 mm / 191.04 in long, 1826 mm / 71.9 in wide and 1310 mm / 51.56 in high
2. 1969 Camaro Z28
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 with 302-inch V8 engine with bright accents, chambered dual exhaust system, Z28 emblems on grille, front fender and rear panel, special front and rear suspension, rear bumper guards, heavy-duty radiator and temperature-controlled fan, quick ratio steering, 15 x 7 wheels with trim rings, E70 x 15 special white-lettered blackwall tires, special paint stripes on hood and rear deck. Available only when four-speed transmission and power front or four-wheel disc brakes are ordered. Positraction rear axle. JL-8 (four-wheel discs) brake package.
3. 1970 Mustang Boss 302
The dual exhaust system was redesigned, along with the competition suspension and a standard Hurst shifter. The intake valves were slightly smaller, and cast aluminum valve covers replaced the chrome. With a suggested price of $3,720, a total of 7,013 were sold. In addition to a lower ride height, standard equipment included front disc brakes, larger sway bars, heavier duty spindles, reinforced shock towers, a four speed manual transmission, and the solid-lifter Boss 302 V8 engine, with its free-breathing Cleveland style heads, which had valves larger than most engines more than a third larger in displacement. This "G Code" engine was rated at 290 hp (216 kW). The 1970 model could accelerate from 0 to 60 mph (97 km/h) in 6.9 seconds, and the quarter mile (~400 m) took 14.6 seconds, reaching a speed of 98 mph (158 km/h).
4. 1970 Dodge Challenger
TASCCA rules required Dodge to sell production editions of the track car, and Dodge responded with the Challenger T/A. The race cars ran a destroked 305-cid version of Mopar's fine 340-cid V-8. It had a four-barrel carb and some 440 bhp. Street T/As stayed with the 340, but upped the ante with a trio of two-barrel Holleys atop an Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold. Despite the "Six Pak" carburetion and a host of internal reinforcements, the T/A's mill carried the same 290 bhp rating as regular four-barrel 340s, though true output was near 350 bhp. The intensified 340 and meaty rear tires helped production versions claw through the quarter in the mid 14s, a showing that would do any small-block proud.
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@yankeetraveler1118 2 жыл бұрын

A blast from the past. Rest in Peace Tom. Greatest television show presenter ever. Do you NEED a car like that? No. But do you WANT a car like that. Oh Yeah!

@fidellaboy-negron5816 2 жыл бұрын

He'll yeah

@terrycarter8929 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why he wasn't on the new clips.....damn. RIP Tom

@melodigrand 2 жыл бұрын

Great memories. At college in 1969, we engineered a drag race between two rich kids, one with a 69 Z 28, the other with a 69 Olds 442 4 speed. Neither had ever tried to street race, hadn't a clue. Had fun working with the Z28 driver on how to launch without spinning the smallish E70 tires or lugging the low torque 302. The Olds should have won easily, it had 3.90 gears, headers and larger G60 tires, but the driver was very conservative, not wanting to risk breakage. One race went to each car. Thanks for the memory.

@rustyjeep2469 2 жыл бұрын

Cool story, thanks for sharing. In high school I'd always race my good buddy's car, and we were so closely matched we never could determine a permanent winner.

@stevenstoll2016 Жыл бұрын

First car a '68 442 convertible that I got from my brother in law in 1972. Only because my mom wouldn't let me buy the perfect Baldwin Motion '69 Z28 from my brother's friend down the street.

@timruiter5460 2 жыл бұрын

All beautiful cars! Being a Ford fan I'd love a Boss 302 but I'm also liking the Z-28 too.

@SurplusLlama0 2 жыл бұрын

Not a Ford guy, but I'd take a BOSS 9 any day...

@rickzauner Жыл бұрын

I agree, at this point in time, any of those cars would be pretty sweet

@Grodd70 Жыл бұрын

@@rickzauner I was going to say the same thing. I grew up a "Chevy guy" but I would be happy with any one of those in the garage :)

@bongodave13 Ай бұрын

With cars this cool, it doesn't even matter who made them. It's just awesome that they were made at all. I'm glad they're being preserved. If I could have one, though, it would be the Mustang. I LOVE that shaker scoop!

@reevinriggin3570 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I remember that episode 22 years ago, or so. Hard to remember that far back. I really miss the good hearted banter between Tom and Peter. So much fun. Really miss Tom and all his good natured shots he would take and give out. Thanks again for bringing the fun back again with the cars I love the most. Trans Am. I go to every vintage event I can get to, to watch this very series. Still brings goose bumps to hear the real race cars coming out of the corners door to door and screaming down the straight. Awesome sound. There may now be electric cars that can go faster, but none with the soul of Boss 302 or Z 28

@rickarra9396 2 жыл бұрын

You remember this, good, but fan you remember what you had for breakfast this morning

@reevinriggin3570 2 жыл бұрын

@@rickarra9396 HaHaHa yeah, I remember. Barely. Bacon and eggs. Smelled almost as good as burned 116 octane race gas. :)

@ragman0696 2 жыл бұрын

That would be 16 years ago with the 2005 copyright and I’m not even a mathematician…..BOOM

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

@@reevinriggin3570 I thought you were gonna say to rick, "Yeah, your mom's beav"🤣😂

@wildbill5126 2 жыл бұрын

LMC, Appreciate you running this again, memories from the 70's. R.I.P. Tom.

@FOH3663 2 жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure remembering back when all these cars were on the street, ... wonderful.

@fozzysrchobbies1343 2 жыл бұрын

Nice cars, would look alot better with factory correct wheels though

@user-kr8kb5no9c 4 ай бұрын

You have it! Steel wheels can be made into 17". Body color with factory hub caps does muscle cars justice.

@rickarra9396 2 жыл бұрын

This needs to be on TV again. We all loved Tom, but you can do it

@rcfred_689 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this, never saw it before. Love Pete and Tom together, great TV!! - RIP Tom

@English2Elvish 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing intro. Boss 302 is a tough contender... and has my vote! :D

@ragimundvonwallat8961 2 жыл бұрын

@Lone Wolf i just wish they would start make new cars in those old style. i dont want them to be faster than they were in those days. its just great as a thing in itself

@plantfeeder6677 3 ай бұрын

Would've won it all if they'd disconnected the rev-limiter. He's complaining about running out of revs with the Boss. Ya no duh. The difference is 6150 rpm and 8000+ rpm. That engine didn't even come alive till 4500 and they're shifting at 6000?!?! Smfh. That engine will pull past 8k all day.

@ShayFeral Жыл бұрын

The Camaro wins on the track, but the T/A Challenger wins our hearts and minds!

@FL50ssp 5 ай бұрын

Not for me... the challenger that is. Z/28 FTW.

@MidnightinSavannah 2 жыл бұрын

I would have liked to see a 1969 350 HO Firebird in the mix.

@aguyinnc2865 2 жыл бұрын

Next contest, Boss 351 Mustang vs 70-71 Z28 350. When I was in high school, there was a 70 Z28, '69 Mach 1 Mustangs, Torinos, Chevelles, Road Runners, an AMX Javelin, 340 Dusters, GTO's... God I miss those good old days!

@dansherwood9851 Жыл бұрын

Other than the 70 ls6 chevelle from 70 forward for at least 10 years GM products sucked hind chee chee for hp.

@The-fs5wn Ай бұрын

The Boss 351 makes the same power to the wheels as the 03 SVT Cobra. It’s as fast on the streets as a big block. Plus it’s got the legendary 4V Cleveland heads so it can easily make big power. It’s got a huge advantage.

@kurtzimmerman1637 2 жыл бұрын

that vintage trans am car sounds great! thanks for the video everyone.

@d.e.b.b5788 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, on TV. But in person, you go home with ringing in your ears. I went to a lot of races back then, and often came home almost deaf. Herds of unmuffled racing cars are LOUD.

@kurtbyars766 2 жыл бұрын

My dream car was my 2nd car a matching numbers 69 Z28 Camaro. Thank you Dad for that. I'll have another one someday hopefully soon, and pray that I can find that one again as I'm hearing there's an identical one nearby and how lucky I could be to find it and buy it again. That car was UNSTOPPABLE on the streets even though pretty much all stock, with some trick adjustments, tuning clutch carb tires recurve kit and Dyno tuning the carb. OMG it was stupid fast.

@user-zj2sy7wv1z 2 жыл бұрын

I've owned my Z for 42 years. The right tuning is everything. Hope you get yours.

@mauriziodisciullo2803 2 жыл бұрын

The 1970 (not 1971) Mark Donohue (sp.?) Javelin came in several different configurations, none of which was mentioned. It came with a 3.15:1 stock diff, but could be had with as much as a 3.91:1, which was probably a bit much for the stock cam, and wheel size, with the 3.54:1 being ideal for the setup in question. Forcing the cars to be used with stock bias-ply tires was a questionable decision, as they were also running on today's 10% alcohol, lower energy fuel, which, in 1970, was alcohol free, and still using tetraethyl lead. One can argue that all of the cars were on a "level playing field", but I disagree; all of these cars were designed from the factory to be modified, and things such as improved tires, etc., were variables left to the discretion of the owner, as we all make performance decisions when we evaluate the purchase of a new set of tires, among other things. AMC had an entire catalogue of parts called "Group 19", which included, along with other parts, things like performance diff ratios, higher compression cylinder heads, performance camshafts, shocks, sway bars, a cross-ram intake fabricated by Edelbrock, and a bevy of other parts, all installed from the factory, when you took delivery of your Javelin or AMX, all intended to drastically improve performance. I can't speak about the other cars, but I can say, with a great degree of certainty, that the car we saw running around the course in such a joyless, lumpen way, was *NOT* a Mark Donohue Javelin. In 1970, the 360 was still high compression, like the 343 it was based on, and the MD Javelin had a rear sway bar, improved shocks and springs on its MacPherson struts, and handled very well - not like the vehicle in the video that we saw struggling to get around the track, body rolling like a swamped boat, front wheels attaining a mind-boggling camber shift, as the driver fed steering input to the car. I had a '69 AMX for many years, and other than its tendency to try to lift off past 115 mph (its front bumper, like the Javelin's, created a high pressure air bubble just in front of, and below the front of the car), it was a beautifully handling car. Lastly, a "burnout contest" as a quantitative way to rate the cars?! Are you serious??? That's just a blatant attempt to try to pad the numbers in the event that an unpopular car might win the evaluation, which is ridiculous! I have much esteem for your work, and the comparison which you've done for us, but there are too many holes in this plot for it to be taken seriously. Thank you for your efforts.

@charlieb3943 Жыл бұрын

Those late 60s and 1970 muscle cars or Super cars as they were called will always be the best looking and most raw powered cars ever designed by American auto makers and nobody can ever come close. I drove one and they dangerous but oh so satisfying

@user-kr8kb5no9c 4 ай бұрын

Exactly 1962-1970. The glory years of American automobile fun and pride. 1971 began the rapid decline. The big three and AMC(I guess) knew what was coming. A radical federal agency called the EPA and emergence of OPEC and their power to create a gas crunch. Therefore the beloved muscle cars became beasts of yore.

@LICobra 2 жыл бұрын

I think the much heavier Challenger T/A really held it's own and proved it actually needed that 340 SixPack to move all that weight, unfortunately it didn't help in stopping and maneuvering. I thought it was the best looking of the pack...kudo's to the overall winner

@danmyers9372 2 жыл бұрын

The 70-72 Challenger/Cudas were the best looking muscle cars of the era hands down. FYI, I owned a 1970 Mach 1 back in the day.

@BobbyOfEarth 2 жыл бұрын

Neither the Challenger or the Javelin met SCCA specs or the "class theme" and only thru politics were these cars ushered into the class. As with all bonehead moves, the SCCA clouded the waters of fair competition in that era of Trans-AM.

@jaylamb9546 2 жыл бұрын

My brother had a 69 Z28 , arguably the best looking of the early Camaro’s

@dinadaughtry8993 Жыл бұрын

Maybe the best looking for a trans am type of muscle car but as far as all muscle cars nothing compares with the charger, but it is a straight line car not good in corners but it looks awesome and it makes a good drag race setup

@culcune Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyOfEarth The 340 engine in 'real life' (vs. TA racing) was a proper muscle car engine, so I am not shocked at how it did here. However, there was no real 30x cu inch Chrysler offered in the models available to the public, so your argument is very valid. AMC, however, had sub 305 cu in engines (e.g. 290 and 304) so arguably, they (AMC) were legit.

@kittysofdoom6968 2 жыл бұрын

When I was a kid i had a neighbor that had an AAR Cuda". I fell in love with that car and have always wanted an AAR Cuda or T/A Challenger. Out of my Price range but if I focus maybe some day I will own one.

@michaellorenz7177 2 жыл бұрын

I remember in the early 90's, a friends uncle owned nothing but Mopar. He had a 71 Demon 340 that was (at the time) cooler to me than all the first gen Camaros and Mustangs I had come in contact with at that point. The best part, (even though I wasn't yet driving age) was these old mopars could be picked up for a song back then.

@kittysofdoom6968 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaellorenz7177 I bought my 1971 Charger R/T for 1800. in 1993 and a 1968 Dodge Coronet 440 for 800. in 1998. Cant find then that cheap anymore. I saw a 68 Belvedere Station wagon near my work i might leave a note on. it is petty rough but complete. I would love a 71 Demon those are sweet.

@Tbird1549 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Anytime we get to see Tom and your Dad together is a great thing! Tom and I had the same birthday but he was 10 years older.

@willjames6240 2 жыл бұрын

Who was in charge of picking the ugliest possible wheels for each car?

@dragoonTT 2 жыл бұрын

Gross man, cheap tacky looking chrome. Get that shit off those cars

@darinmcdonnell712 2 жыл бұрын

Put the stock wheels back on those awesome cars

@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын

Who focuses on wheels in a test like this? They prolly ran the wheels the wheel manufacturers were paying them to run... of course we would have run road race wheels...

@darinmcdonnell712 2 жыл бұрын

@@BuzzLOLOL I think anyone that is a car enthusiast noticed these silly looking aftermarket wheels, I am sure we all want to see them perform the way they came from the factory, after all isn't that the point of this test?

@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын

@@darinmcdonnell712 - People have such screwy wheels these days now that they don't bother me if it's not my vehicle... apparently these vehicles were 1972 emissions slugs from the slow numbers...

@NeuKrofta 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty amazing how the Javelin still kicked so much ass in the Trans Am races

@toomanyhobbies2011 2 жыл бұрын

Why? Have you seen the teams that ran AMCs in TransAm?

@NeuKrofta 2 жыл бұрын

@@toomanyhobbies2011 yes and they did pretty damn well

@JamesWilliams-dj2bp 2 жыл бұрын

Only after all of the other factories ceased their respective racing programs at the end of the 1970 TA season.

@NeuKrofta 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWilliams-dj2bp the first year AMC raced in 1969, the Javelin kicked ass all things considered. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6p6aaWZutjXkZ8.html

@JamesWilliams-dj2bp 2 жыл бұрын

@@NeuKrofta AMC's highest place finish for the entire 1969 TA season was 4th place at Michigan national , opening race. After that; 9th, 5th, 6th, 6th, DNF, 4th, 5th, 7th, 15th, 8th, and 6th place in last race. Meanwhile Camaro took first place 8 times and Mustang won 4 races. What do you mean "Javelin kicked ass"?

@kurtbarlow9917 2 жыл бұрын

I miss my 1968 Mighty Mouse z28 Camaro ! What a rocket

@bgjb-r1499 Жыл бұрын

I remember a kid with a 340 duster. He did have some work done to the heads and he ran 373 gears using a 4-speed. The car was gutted and used a fiberglass hood for weight reduction. That car ran mid to low 13’s which was a big deal in 1981. This was a street legal car.

@randykirchhevel7311 2 жыл бұрын

They sure are dogging that Mustang and making that Camaro sound like it's the best thing that ever happened.

@chadkent1241 2 жыл бұрын

BOSS' took the scca title in 70.

@sergeantmasson3669 2 жыл бұрын

@@chadkent1241 TRUE. SCCA finally stopped Penske from acid dipping car bodies and using fiberglass body parts.

@dansherwood9851 Жыл бұрын

Cuz camaro is, was and will always be the best! Get a clue...

@twolak1972 5 ай бұрын

BS, DZ 302 was a pooch. Anybody in a 70 boss that knew how to drive could eat any Z28 for supper. Off the line the Boss would fly off leaving the Z28 left to play catch up.

@joeayers3777 2 ай бұрын

Boss like 364 horse or so.

@DarthEcoli Жыл бұрын

I was rooting for the T/A Challenger the whole time, but pity there wasn't a true 69 Pontiac Firebird Trans am.

@MrSteve280 Жыл бұрын

In late 1971/early 1972, one of the major auto magazines (Car Craft?) did a comparison of a '69 Z28 and '69 Boss 302. They started off stock, both cars in the 14s, and made modifications such as traction bars, headers, rejetting, ignition curve, tires with runs in between each mod. All of this was to show what a typical mod would do that many owners did back then. Both cars ended up in the mid/high 12s with the Boss being slightly faster. My 50+ year recollection was that there was no single mod that made a huge difference, although the ignition work and rejetting were the biggest bang for your buck.

@joevette6294 2 жыл бұрын

You guys at Dream Garage make the best muscle car videos!! with the most awesome choice of cars and engine options

@Wooley689 2 жыл бұрын

They should do a rematch with the newer 2011 models of each, of course sadly AMC won't be there.

@elevenbucks5682 2 жыл бұрын

A friend and I ran 68 Javelin 360 with an Intake a hydraulic cam an headers, 10 inch slicks. It turned 11.20 all day.

@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын

Nowhere's near stock engine...

@snotty_boi8248 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that friend of yours must be happy as fuck!

@MegaJavelin1970 2 жыл бұрын

@@snotty_boi8248 Stock 69 javelin sst 343 auto 2:87 gear ran high 14's A factory 360 car with group 19 cam and headers is a easy mid to high 11 car with 3:91 gear and a stick.

@dansherwood9851 Жыл бұрын

My 67 camaro would break into the 9's on a cool night. All stock right down to the solid roller 468, 150 shot...

@robax 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Everything I'd wondered about for many years, even down to the tire and the real race car comparison.

@davegibbs6592 2 жыл бұрын

I had both a '71 javelin w/ a 360 4bbl. and a '70 Boss 302 Eliminator. The Javelin handled like crap but the Cougar drove like a dream.....miss that car!

@rogerlairamore207 Жыл бұрын

My first car 1978 was a 72 Plymouth Cuda 340 it was a close race but I beat my friends 1970 Mach 1 351 by a little over half a car length and a friends 74 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 on the interstate and the Cuda also beat my cousins 70 SS 396 Chevelle

@hollowpoint27 2 жыл бұрын

Love this shootout. Tom was a gem

@georgef1176 2 жыл бұрын

Omg I can’t believe you put these on the tube!!! Thanks guys. I miss your tv show very much. I guess we are getting old when speed vision seems so long ago!

@kennaaye8596 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys, I look forward to your Sunday videos!

@charlesdalton985 2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding as always, thank you!. I like all cars, but if I had to be labeled I’m a Chevy guy…..but that Challenger 🤤. Seeing these cars tossed around the course in anger, brought back an old memory of the Bud Lindemann reviews.

@christopherkraft1327 2 жыл бұрын

Great video guys, thanks once again!!! 👍👍🙂

@2000blackstang Жыл бұрын

My buddies dad has 2 70 javelin's. 1 is a full on 1000 hp tubbed drag car and the other is all original everything. My dad had a 72 Cuda growing up but it was in mid restoration so he ended up getting rid of it. It was originally a 318 car but he put a 340 he found at the junk yard that he had built up to about 500 hp.

@leonardwalters154 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see that testing, but you never mentioned the group 19 option for the AMC javelins that a lot of people went with on the Trans am clones

@GarrisonNichols-ow1hb Ай бұрын

The Z28 and Boss 302 were definitely the coolest

@jonwalter6317 2 жыл бұрын

Great show! 69-70 Mustangs get my vote for the best looking muscle cars ever - that pointed front end makes them look like a land shark.

@13_13k Жыл бұрын

I haven't even watched the video yet and I'm saying that Z/28 is the best all around vehicle of the bunch Edit - I knew the Z/28 would be best all around winner. I also knew it wouldn't be by much. But a win is a win

@steventangney1367 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video, thank you.

@rono3045 2 жыл бұрын

I can tell by the RPM he didn't rev that Boss 302 high enough that thing doesn't come alive till 5000 RPM

@DANTHETUBEMAN 2 жыл бұрын

Same for the camero

@hoedemakerbart 2 жыл бұрын

The factory cam sucks though. It was the test bed for the Cleveland. Things needs to rev to 7k with a big cam and some headers and single Plane intake and a proper carb and premium fuel with total advance around 36

@culbycars Жыл бұрын

@@hoedemakerbart I agree Sir my 408 cleveland pulls the cobra pretty well

@hoedemakerbart Жыл бұрын

@@culbycars 408? Cool a stroker

@twolak1972 4 ай бұрын

The Boss was right in the middle of its powerband. Be fair and rev that screamer to 7500 and see who wins. But you wont because them the Mustang wins. Cant have that huh.

@monaro383 2 жыл бұрын

thankyou for another fantastic shootout....never knew it even existed

@ramtd02 2 жыл бұрын

haha, just watched this and realised tom cant math, LOL....Challenger and Mustang tied for 2nd overall LOL.

@charlieb308 2 жыл бұрын

Biggest fish tales are the guys who always say that engine under rated from factory it’s really 100hp more. But on engine dyno that’s bull crap, LS6 for example isn’t 500-550hp, it was rated dead on, I’ve seen dynos

@stevewheat9030 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have been at some of those early Trans Am races watching those legendary drivers slug it out it what were brand new cars at the time... the battles had to be epic as were the cars and the legendary drivers that drove these beasts... Anyone have access to a time machine??

@hampshireracing 2 жыл бұрын

Such an entertaining competition amongst these popular muscle cars!🏁🇺🇸

@dancancade7101 2 жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see them on a chassis dyno to see if they even put out the HP they're supposed to. The Boss and the Z-28 posted faster times in testing back in the day, with both being in the mid 14s on the 1/4 mile.

@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын

These seem to be mostly early 1970's emissions slugs...

@MrBlackbutang 2 жыл бұрын

Really miss that show. The funny rounded guy that was taller than his hair is the greatest! Absolutely Feckin Awesome

@garycogswell5499 Жыл бұрын

If you can't be there, this is the next best thing! The soundtrack is great! Cars are enviable.

@carguy0000 2 жыл бұрын

thanks great video

@fernandochaves9665 2 жыл бұрын

Simply THANKS for posting it...

@legendarymotorcar 2 жыл бұрын

our pleasure!

@hausf.kartreit1111 14 сағат бұрын

Badass CarzFor street & Show I'd take the Dodge Challenger which actually did Very well everywhere but braking. Those aftermarket wheels looked goofy af✌🏼😁☯️🇺🇸

@tomcox2565 Ай бұрын

Still proud of the mopar. Best on the 1/4 and best looking!

@mikemcleroy8265 2 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome presentation! Bravo!

@jonathanlawson4667 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a diehard chevy guy but to me AMC is the best looking muscle car out of the 70s they are and I absolutely love them and I'd have one if they wasn't so hard to find

@nicholasselvaggi54 2 жыл бұрын

Whoever decided some of those wheels have their heads up a really dark place.

@nurburgringdreaming2221 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yea Z/28 I was sitting on the edge of my seat on the road course. Owning a 5th gen Z it’s comforting to see what really went on in the late 60s & early 70s. We need more videos like this for us let’s just say , elders. 🤟🏻😀

@rdh5961 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, but what's up with the non original wheels are tires?

@jackgtx440 2 жыл бұрын

Horrible wheels and tires

@markg7030 2 жыл бұрын

All cars have equal traction to make it a fair competition.

@sabba_dabba8649 2 жыл бұрын

Great comparison

@dsainjersey 2 жыл бұрын

I love watching these episodes we never had access to when originally ran. But guys please help settle a bet. If you could take all the big muscle cars you've compared over the years and run them on modern wheel and tire combos. I watched the muscle tuner shootout and the big dog shootout and wonder how much more traction a Yenko would have on say 18 inch Cup Sports or P zero. I think just that difference apples to apples will find a good half second or more. Even more with the big blocks and weighty front ends

@user-ip9ss2bh3d 2 ай бұрын

Thirty years later, a current gen Mustang GT would hand a beating to every one of those cars in every area. We are at the end of a golden age of performance cars now

@garycamara9955 5 ай бұрын

There was a 67 Z28 in Petaluma, no stripes, no Z28 badges. I rember being in the local Chevy dealership when they unloaded Teamans triple black Malibu. When they started it it had a really lumpy cam. The mechanics were surprised. I went over and there was a set of Tube headers in the trunk. Obviously meant to be dealer installed. It would barely idle. Most people ordered the 396 Chevelle, this was a hot small block.

@johncoleman2495 11 ай бұрын

This is exactly how I expected this to play out....the Camaro being the overall winner with the mustang in second. And the gap between them and the other 2 would have been much bigger had the Challenger and Javelin had 5.0 liter displacement engines. Or the Camaro and Mustang been allowed to run the LT-1 and Boss 351. I'd love to have seen the 70 Camaro and Mustang in the mix as well!

@VG-iq8xq 2 жыл бұрын

Love all these cars. I’m a Z/28 guy overall but the other cars are just awesome too. The sound of the Trans Am Z is killer! I can see why you’d be tempted to upgrade the suspensions on these cars. That would be interesting to compare before and after tests with upgrades.

@andrewgraziani4331 2 жыл бұрын

24:00 Cone as a hat haha, that is a good one.

@XCRiders 2 жыл бұрын

Who’s idea was it to put them “pimp my ride” wheels on all of them? stances jacked up in the front

@terrycarter8929 Жыл бұрын

This was my favorite show when I paid for TV

@bobwestphal5875 2 жыл бұрын

Great shootout, but I'll still take the Javelin.

@JETZcorp Жыл бұрын

What I find fascinating about the race car is the rear camber. They managed to get camber on a live axle car! There are ways to do that but they're not elegant or pretty. But it makes a huge difference to handling. Very cool!

@steveseefeldt7670 Жыл бұрын

Boss 302 gets my vote but I'm biased tho

@jeremeybrown9716 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful cars....the wheels, not so much

@joesmo4919 2 жыл бұрын

All time favorite car show!!!. 👍😁😎Sure miss Tom R.I.P. 💙

@onefortheroad2291 2 жыл бұрын

26:00 the rear view mirror in that Javelin lol

@loyalamerican8776 2 жыл бұрын

I just love how they say… A to B in a straight line LOL…There is no other measurement but that

@darinmcdonnell712 2 жыл бұрын

What's up with the silly looking aftermarket wheels on these awesome cars???

@1400IntruderVS Жыл бұрын

I noticed the Boss 302 makes the best noise ,aside from the Z28 Race car of course.

@forterierocks 2 жыл бұрын

Man I miss this show miss Tom too😭

@tystyx615 Жыл бұрын

Not a Ford or Chevy or Dodge fan. I'm a 1970 fan. All the car companies made unbelievably awesome cars in 1970. See you got the 70 Boss. Love the 69 z28, but the split front bumper of the 70... Oooooh MUFASA!!!

@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864 Жыл бұрын

Yay I have a 2018 Challenger T/A, with 392!! Black on Black! Amazing Car!!

@user-kr8kb5no9c 4 ай бұрын

Someone refuses to acknowledge when real muscle cars ceased to exist. Lowsy fuel and the emergence of the EPA struck the last deadly blow to high-compression, free breathing 7mpg Americana.

@user-kr8kb5no9c 4 ай бұрын

I know Chrysler Corp offered zero high performance engines in 1972. Compression reduced, fuel efficiency concerns. Even (though it was still available) wasn't half of the beloved small block that it was one model year earlier. I understand GM continues muscle car production for the '72 model year, then succumbed. I don't know about FoMoCo. What was their last year for obtained swilling lumpy idling road& track machines? Ford guys, educate this mopar guy.

@williamr9956 2 жыл бұрын

Z/28 for the win baby. Favorite. Muscle car. Ever.

@josephbarr511 Ай бұрын

39:20. Someone get me a cigarette. Man that’s awesome!

@knowsnugget3321 10 ай бұрын

The AMC has my vote for looks

@danoneill2846 2 жыл бұрын

thanks

@58raceguy 2 жыл бұрын

This is a fun one to watch. There is obviously a lot of human factor involved in getting everything possible out of each car. Peter does a great job of trying to adjust his driving style to each car and each run. I think it makes a certain amount of sense to run all the same tires to maximize what each car is capable of since the OE tires didn’t have much to offer. That said, could they have picked uglier wheels? Yikes. Thankfully they didn’t live their lives with such atrocities bolted in place. Sure do miss Tom, he was really fun and the banter between he and Peter was always a fun element.

@DANTHETUBEMAN 2 жыл бұрын

Theyre all about just as good as each other.

@h.r.puffnstuff8705 2 жыл бұрын

Chrysler finally entered the fray in 70? I guess you missed the Dart GT and Formula S Barracudas.

@BuzzLOLOL 2 жыл бұрын

They weren't Trans Am intended...

@chadkent1241 2 жыл бұрын

And finished at the back with 18 points

@mentorofarisia371 2 ай бұрын

What a great idea for a vid - and fantastic execution.

@keithwielkiewicz7721 Жыл бұрын

Good one guys

@40beretta1 Жыл бұрын

That was a great side by side. Be nice if they had a milder weather. Luv each ride. I'm not a homer so "Murcian" made muscle cars are my favorites

@bdogjr7779 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo Fellas《☆》🖖😁I've been contemplating making my 73 Dart sport 360 into more of a handling street car◇¿.A Dodge Dart T/A in Plum Crazy 360 SIX PAK😎🎱☮🔊🖖👍

@bdogjr7779 2 жыл бұрын

@Rob Roy 《☆》I think the Challenger T/A wasn't judged fairly. Just Sayin🔊◇¿.🖖😁

@canabox7112 2 жыл бұрын

A 1970 Z/28 would have blew them away

@oldskool1979 2 жыл бұрын

I was born in the wrong era...

@stephenheidelberger616 2 жыл бұрын

a re do on a cooler day the boss 302 would take it no problem

@fanghicheck 2 жыл бұрын

but did they pull the wire on the rev limiter ? then shift point is 7.100 rpm & wake up little susie ?

@rogerlairamore207 Жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t take the 340 T/A Challenger in the quarter

@FL50ssp 5 ай бұрын

Camaro for the win sort of expected that, just like 4th, 5th, and 6th gen Camaros vs the competition. And what is up with this guy's power shifting? Looks like he is trying to put out a campfire.