Pool pump wiring, installing a timer and bonding! Pool series #3 Ep

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The Kelley's Country Life

The Kelley's Country Life

Жыл бұрын

I install a pool pump timer, all electrical and bonding in this episode. #abovegroundpool #pool #poolinstall
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@gcampbell83
@gcampbell83 Жыл бұрын
The Kelley's Country Life has the smartest viewers and commenters. I came for the ice machine and stayed for the education.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
We appreciate you
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
The name of the channel should be redneck University
@user-hy3ds7hk8q
@user-hy3ds7hk8q 11 ай бұрын
Now I have to check to see if he has an ice machine video. I've been wanting to "make one" myself
@gcampbell83
@gcampbell83 11 ай бұрын
@@user-hy3ds7hk8q You bet he does. Andrew has two different versions, watch both before you build. He comes with the receipts on how much they produce to how much electricity it takes. You are going to love it! Andrew is very methodical on what he does.
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
I'm the "ice man" and have a huge Playlist on homemade ice makers. Start here for the biggest series on KZfaq for homemade ice makers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLyjpLN6pp6wqIE.html
@BCummings
@BCummings Жыл бұрын
You are one of the most natural teacher/instructors I've seen. Even with talent this must take a lot of prep... and it's appreciated. I always learn something of value from your videos, so thanks!
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I do spend a tremendous amount of time learning and reading before making these videos. Thanks for noticing.
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean 24 күн бұрын
Without a doubt this is the best pool installation on KZfaq. Complete install, with all the codes complied with and such. Thank you!
@TKCL
@TKCL 23 күн бұрын
Glad it helped
@user-hy3ds7hk8q
@user-hy3ds7hk8q 11 ай бұрын
I like this guy.. Very calm demeanor.. Thank You
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching
@Glenn_and_ShannonsSalty_Life
@Glenn_and_ShannonsSalty_Life Жыл бұрын
Lol, not sure how I survived swimming in a pool like that back in the 70’s that the pump was plugged into a two prong plug 100’ feet from the house on a 14 gauge extension cord! It makes sense, but it’s crazy how regs have changed over the years
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Lol no kidding, I thought about that too.
@busyboy7635
@busyboy7635 Жыл бұрын
Man, is there nothing you can't do? Great job.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Sure, but that's not going to stop me from trying. 😉
@Supermaanie1
@Supermaanie1 Жыл бұрын
Your vids are always so calming to watch after a rough day. I saw the ice machine but came for the outside bar, and stayed for pretty much everything else.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Truly appreciate the support
@jenniferjones5156
@jenniferjones5156 29 күн бұрын
@@TKCLdo you know anything about filter balls?
@radmilamiljanic5977
@radmilamiljanic5977 Жыл бұрын
Thorough and clear as ever. I hope you got through the storm OK.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
It got wild late last night, but everything looks OK.
@rcr01111
@rcr01111 11 ай бұрын
Bookmarking this for my pool install. Thank you!
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, several more videos on the install. Now working on the pool deck.
@bobbyh6293
@bobbyh6293 2 күн бұрын
Great job Buddy!
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@jeremiahs45
@jeremiahs45 Жыл бұрын
A bunch of useful information Andrew. Thank you
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@GaHullbillyRanch
@GaHullbillyRanch Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the pool build series
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@garyg5975
@garyg5975 Жыл бұрын
Great job Andrew. I understood every bit of this.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@relaxingtimeswithmav6485
@relaxingtimeswithmav6485 Жыл бұрын
I don't plan on putting a pool in, but it's nice the know what it takes. Thanks for teaching us something new
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@relaxingtimeswithmav6485
@relaxingtimeswithmav6485 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL you already know I'm here for you and your wife
@arnecarlsson9740
@arnecarlsson9740 Жыл бұрын
Very instructive and I appreciate the detailed NEC rules explanations. 👏👏👏
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@markb.1259
@markb.1259 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Andrew!!!
@ACO-Amy
@ACO-Amy Жыл бұрын
What an excellent video Andrew! You're a natural at explaining things so it makes sense. Thank you!
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rongray4847
@rongray4847 Жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew, very well explained. Your pool looks beautiful, I can just imagine it with the deck and landscaping 👍👍. ❤️❤️🇨🇦
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm very excited about the deck.
@randyschmittou8708
@randyschmittou8708 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your video. I knew when you said tape up your conduit ends to keep them from getting packed slap full of dirt, I knew you were Southern. My Dad was an electrician and that sounded just like something he'd say! Very good information!
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching
@dougpavone4336
@dougpavone4336 Күн бұрын
Bro, great video. Thank You.
@TKCL
@TKCL Күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@paulajones9956
@paulajones9956 Жыл бұрын
Very impressed with your knowledge of electrical work, Wow your Amazing
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I just like to read and learn.
@xyzpdq81
@xyzpdq81 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew. Great video. I'm a 22 Year long Union Electrician Local 11, this video was a nice change from most of the wiring I see on KZfaq. 2 changes I would make would be to grind or wire brush the medal on your bonding around your pool as well as drill and tap 1/4" inch bolts instead of those self tappers. As far as the wire. The THHN vs THWN the W is for wet locations like submersible pumps and similar. The THHN is great for your application. You can also find standard 500' rolls of wire at the hardware store and just buy a roll of black, Red, white, or Green, and just buy the colors you need and pull them in the conduit. Thanks and keep up the great content.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
That's very true, but I prefer the twisted tri wire because it pushes through the conduit nicely. Not to mention I priced out the individual wire and it was almost 2 1/2 times the cost per foot to buy it individually 😳. These prices and supply is ridiculous.
@texaslookout5382
@texaslookout5382 11 ай бұрын
Ground Bonding is the most important aspect of your Superior Made Video. Many Thanks I only wish I had that soft soil your dealing with instead of my Limestone Rock.
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@stevewhite5756
@stevewhite5756 Жыл бұрын
Love all of the electrical code references.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@pampilgrim2274
@pampilgrim2274 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Andrew! You can’t keep a good man down! There you are back at work on the pool. Thanks for all your hard work making these videos for all of us. Promise me that you will take care of yourself.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support.
@ryanzynda5114
@ryanzynda5114 Жыл бұрын
Great educational video. Thank you for sharing. 😀
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@LuJustLu
@LuJustLu Жыл бұрын
Great episode! There's so much I didn't know. This was very educational. Thank you
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@karenriehm3343
@karenriehm3343 Жыл бұрын
Yet another great educational video! People can save their selves a lot of time & money not to mention frustration by watching your video! Another job well done 👊
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын
Great information. I had no idea so much was involved... 🙂
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Me either 🤣
@jefflaib2135
@jefflaib2135 Жыл бұрын
Love how clear the information is and how easy it is to understand. I am in California and am looking at installing a circuit for my Travel trailer. Need to start doing more research maybe do it myself since it will be such a short run
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I've got a video showing a 50 amp RV hookup I did.
@jefflaib2135
@jefflaib2135 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL cool I will have to check it out
@magnum12pm
@magnum12pm Жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber. You do a great job of explaining HOW and Why! There are many things to learn, even if you will never install a pool. Great job!
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support and watching.
@pointblank6467
@pointblank6467 11 ай бұрын
Thank you kind sir!
@jjrizzles
@jjrizzles Жыл бұрын
we use a shop-vac and twine to pull wire through long conduit runs, just tie something like a plastic grocery bag to the twine and stuff it in one end suck it from the other end with the vacuum, when you have string through the run, then tie the twine to your wire and pull it through. done 500' or more in 2" conduit that way, works with mule tape too. makes it a lot easier than trying to feed it by hand.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I've definitely heard of that trick.
@workingmanrondoyle3287
@workingmanrondoyle3287 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed Andrew 👍🏻👍🏻. The one thing I caught that you didn't mention was that an outside circuit for plug and cord connections has to be T/P with WR written on the face of the receptacle = tamper proof & weather resistant/rated. I always love watching your videos! Keep up the great work my friend.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing about that (hate TP BTW) is the twist lock that your forced to use. Good luck finding a WR twist lock anywhere. The couple I could find are cord to cord connections, or come in through wall versions. I didn't see any that were designed to fit in a weatherproof enclosure. Get's frustrating following all these rules. Some seem necessary, some are just going overboard. Take care
@workingmanrondoyle3287
@workingmanrondoyle3287 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL I agree with you 100% about the code going overboard with some of this. I've never heard of the mandatory uses of twist locks on pool pumps. I'll study up on that. I have been doing a few outside outlets for sewer lift stations in Maryland. Tp & WR GFCI and outlets are readily available in my area. No shortage here.
@sharonurschel6753
@sharonurschel6753 Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I never knew there was so much to putting in a pool! But it’s better to be safe than sorry. I know you don’t want anyone to get injured because you cut corners on setting up the pool. Have a great day and enjoy the pool!😀
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I did not realize how many rules there were either 🤷
@jimanon5681
@jimanon5681 Жыл бұрын
Great job Andrew 👍. In my area ( Lee County, Fl.) The ladder has to be bonded, even though the ladder is in the water.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I think that's the same here as well as deck railings.
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a lot of info! Great job 👏
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
Question how come you changed your mind about the propane tank ? At the beginning I believe you said you didn't want it away from the house for a specific reason
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
For looks was the main reason.. I changed my mind when the world started getting a little crazier, unpredictable and politicians got a brilliant idea to start banning propane appliances. That tank has about 4+ years of capacity in it for me with normal use. Not to mention I had no idea the huge savings I can get by buying propane in bulk. Like $600 a fill up discount 💵💵
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL Oh how very convenient that the company neglected to remember to mention that to you when you were ordering the service buyer beware! Hell you should do a video just on that information alone. You know you can make a video just sitting at your desk and talking to the camera podcast Style you don't have to be doing something every time imho. Or maybe do a short?
@harrisondahne7940
@harrisondahne7940 11 күн бұрын
love the video, however 250.8 states you need a machine type screw backed by a nut that has at least two threads engaged or a machine type screw going into a tapped hole that has at least two threads engaged to attach those bonding lugs equally spaced around perimeter of the pool. Self tapping screws are not an approved connection.
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 күн бұрын
Good to know, I should have done bolts BEFORE filling the pool.
@pesthunteroutdoors
@pesthunteroutdoors Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't run two separate circuits out there overdue is what you do😊 wonderful job of explaining of the installation of the electrical
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Just wait, I've got 10/2 uf for more circuits when I build the deck.
@pesthunteroutdoors
@pesthunteroutdoors Жыл бұрын
You got me on that one
@pesthunteroutdoors
@pesthunteroutdoors Жыл бұрын
Did you see all the low voltage LED deck lighting at Lowe's
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
No I haven't seen those.
@WelcmeTo1984
@WelcmeTo1984 5 ай бұрын
Great video! You got another subscriber! Also, in fairness, you're bonding to achieve grounding, so no one should be chirping about your terminology! Keep up the great work!!
@TKCL
@TKCL 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching
@SteveStowell
@SteveStowell 15 күн бұрын
Just use metal pipe and don’t have to worry about direction. Beside metal required here
@Tripring2000
@Tripring2000 Жыл бұрын
Bonding equalizes metallic objects to the same electrical potential to prevent current flow. You’d be amazed how many people are swimming in dangerous pools due to improper bonding and grounding techniques. Had a friend who complained they were getting a tingle every time they got into or out of the pool. Turned out to be a defective light in the pool that the bonding strap had corroded away along with a grounding issue at the electrical panel. It’s a wonder no one was electrocuted.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
So funny you say that, I had a friend mention their pool shocked them 😲👀. Wow!
@Tripring2000
@Tripring2000 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL yep, many older pools were not bonded correctly or the bonds have corroded away due to lack of maintenance.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Mine should be good with 6 different bonding points on the pool alone.
@mikerichard-FOPA3
@mikerichard-FOPA3 Жыл бұрын
Andrew, Where is your supervisor (Ruger)? very informative video, I like your wire dispenser that you built.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
He lays on the porch all day when it's this hot. He hates the heat.
@Chipgillette
@Chipgillette Жыл бұрын
Aways some great content. Thanks.👮🏻‍♂️Chip
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@PTIElectric
@PTIElectric 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video it's good information and it's correct grounding and bonding is really important. It's funny to read some comments especially as an electrician when you see how dangerous some people's pool and stalls are where they didn't even consider grounding and bonding or half of what you've got here. Lol
@TKCL
@TKCL 3 ай бұрын
No kidding, people keep telling me they feel a shock in their pool and they are OK with it 😬
@michaelruys5021
@michaelruys5021 2 ай бұрын
Great instructional
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@LorenTedford
@LorenTedford Жыл бұрын
You should see the Motorola R56 Manual the grounding and bonding is nuts.. Google it should be available in a pdf file. By the way we use that type of wire for making dipoles for amateur radio! Works great!!
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks
@RJ-cc1fz
@RJ-cc1fz Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I think it’s a better idea to use water tight conduit connections to the timer
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Don't disagree with you there. The timer does contain drain holes.
@FJ-vw9rn
@FJ-vw9rn 16 күн бұрын
amazing!! best video on bonding pool on youtube
@TKCL
@TKCL 15 күн бұрын
Glad you think so!
@ronbonick4265
@ronbonick4265 6 ай бұрын
subscribed I was from FL ( Tampa area) moved to TN
@TKCL
@TKCL 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support
@maelynbees430
@maelynbees430 Жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks for your time and expertise. Can you add to your list to do a video on the ionizer, please?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
There's not much to show with the ionizer, but I will report out how it's doing. So far the pool is staying clear.
@robertcribb3859
@robertcribb3859 Жыл бұрын
With the plethora of information that you have on almost every darn thing a new name may be in order for you. Professor Andy
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Lol
@mfd4505
@mfd4505 Жыл бұрын
Nice 20A GFCI
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Bonding & Grounding = same system with my individual PV Solar Panels ... Bonding LUGS to the Framework ... 6 AWG bare Copper to all the LUGS & ultimately to the Surge-Protector & then to Earth Ground ... BONDED & then GROUNDED in my Combiner-Box & Surge-Protector ... ... COOP ... the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...
@IIcucucoolio
@IIcucucoolio Жыл бұрын
One of the best things I did to stop overflowing when it rains was drilling a small hole into the side of the skimmer basket and use a pex pipe adapter to attach a small hole. Then just use a small discharge drainage line that is similar to the ones an HVAC uses to drain the water as it gets too high. Your pool will never get too full.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
That will work with small rain storms, but for example the severe weather we get here (like last night) can literally dump inches of rain in an hour. I need a heavy discharge for hurricanes and the like.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I like that idea though
@tonymengela3575
@tonymengela3575 Жыл бұрын
Dude you remind me of couch I had for a teacher in the 80s when I lived in Jay Fl. I both loved and hated that place and now I wish for Munson Fl.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping your coach was a great guy 😬
@tonymengela3575
@tonymengela3575 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL Yeah he was my autoshop teach, loved auto and agg
@louisd95714
@louisd95714 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic work. I think the only thing I would have done differently is use a smart timer vs a mechanical timer. This way, it can be set form a phone rather than having to venture outside. But that's the laziness in me.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
That's what my package deal came with. Plus I've noticed in life mechanical seems to outlast electronics.
@mib20000
@mib20000 Жыл бұрын
I had a pool like that in 2006 and my electrician installed a box I guess is for a fault breaker I think - then ran the wires outside 18" underground to a 4x4 post and put a switch and a twist lock plug for the pump. the only ground they did was a lug attached to one pool leg and then too a ground rod in the ground.. guess it was updated since then
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Still a lot of pools out there that don't meet code.
@johnsoper6931
@johnsoper6931 Жыл бұрын
My kids are grown and I get skin cancer so my pool is now a fish pond 🐟😂
@kr35nn
@kr35nn 2 ай бұрын
Twist-lock receptacle is no longer required. Reason being is that the convenience receptacle can not be a twist-lock, so no point in requiring it for pump. Also, a disconnect is required for the pump that “shall be readily accessible and within sight from its equipment.” That looks like a long way away but I guess it is still readily accessible. The problem is that if someone uses a twist-lock receptacle and doesn’t have a disconnect, the cord and plug could not be counted as a disconnect I wouldn’t think. As a cord and plug usually counts as a disconnect.
@chrisavila2073
@chrisavila2073 Жыл бұрын
With all the wire being ruin you could have put up the Zipline
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
🤔
@nathangrepke4193
@nathangrepke4193 19 күн бұрын
Your service recep is how your twist lock is being protected right? And you can use that for lights for the pool and the pump? You did not run two circuits right?
@TKCL
@TKCL 17 күн бұрын
You need to verify that with your local code as they might require a dedicated circuit. I have also been hearing the twist lock rule is changing.
@ronbonick4265
@ronbonick4265 6 ай бұрын
Great Video .. the only thing I would question is cutting the pool pump cord If its a pump and made for pools then its factory equipment and unless the factory recommends cutting it youve modified factory equipment which technically also is a violation or transfer of liability
@TKCL
@TKCL 6 ай бұрын
But code also specifically states the plug must be twist locking design. You won't pass without that plug.
@jab-pt3pc
@jab-pt3pc 2 ай бұрын
I have a deck a quarter of the way around my pool. I can get under it but I don't think I can actually dig a 6" trench. Does the wire have to be buried 6 inches down all the way around the pool?
@dx7guy
@dx7guy Ай бұрын
Excellent .. installing my first above ground pool .. you have really given me an education on how to do it .. THANK YOU Just to offer a few thoughts to the discussion ... a) Would it be okay to put a weather-proof Master Switch on post, ahead of everything ? Just in Case of Murphy's Law I know you can switch pump on/off with timer switch with 'little' level .. but with Wet hands ??Maybe Not ! b) Having water available near pump is handy .. till fill pool & clean filters but over time is there a chance 'condensation' might compromise conduit ? c) Before senior- citizen - downside, we did have an in -ground pool ... was curious how my plumbing & electrical deteriorated over the years. So, why not put a Covering or little Roof over the Pump & Electrical .. maybe a little Shed that could also hold pool chemicals or Ice Machine :) THANK's Again - EXCELLENT VIDEO
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
Pump house is coming soon. As for the cut off switch, I cannot answer that. It might be against code to break the wire before entering the main switch, you would need to verify that. No fear of water getting in the conduit, its glued and sealed. You must use conduit when running stranded non shielded wire like I did, code will require that.
@madampolo
@madampolo Жыл бұрын
Where do you learn all of these things? I'm just amazed at how much you do know. I'm sure it took a lot of research and such. Thank you, Andrew! I'm looking forward to the deck, landscaping, etc. Take care of your back.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
When I want to tackle a new job, I spend time reading and learning before I start it. KZfaq is always a huge help.
@madampolo
@madampolo Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL When you were standing by your electrical panel, your house spread out behind you. I thought, my gosh, this man built that house, put up that siding, painted it, etc. as well as groomed and seeded all that pasture. I have been watching you since you had the house slab poured and then I had to go back and watch earlier videos. You have a lot to be proud of with that awesome place. Thank you for the work it takes to produce these great videos.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I do feel proud.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I do feel proud.
@lisar670
@lisar670 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've decided to save myself a ton of money and install the bonding wire myself. I am going to purchase all of the products you link in the video, but what type/size of self tapping screws should I get?
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 ай бұрын
It's best to use bolts if you can access the backside of the pillars.
@kippy7288
@kippy7288 10 ай бұрын
I am an electrician and in article 680 it requires a number 8 bare copper wire 7:23 you did say number 8 or 6 I just wanted to clarify it is a number 8, other than that great video 👍
@TKCL
@TKCL 10 ай бұрын
I ordered whatever code said right when I read it, so it's #8.
@robbehr8806
@robbehr8806 Жыл бұрын
Good video! I didn't notice a GFCI protector. Do you have one somewhere in the circuit?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Every receptacle is GFI and the load out covers the twist lock receptacle. Thanks!
@legacychop
@legacychop 9 ай бұрын
NEC states 18”-24” from pool water edge for bond wire distance.
@TKCL
@TKCL 9 ай бұрын
Please provide the code, what I read in local codes per NEC stated 12 inches away and minimum of 6 inches of depth with 4 attachment points evenly spaced.
@legacychop
@legacychop 9 ай бұрын
680.26(2)(b)(4)
@brianbrady9475
@brianbrady9475 9 ай бұрын
I added to our pool a 10ft ground rod. Located at the pump. I didn't know about bonding the filter or the pool wall. Out post on ours is plastic. But I could do it where the pool wall is connected. Not sure how to bond anywhere else on the wall
@TKCL
@TKCL 9 ай бұрын
That's actually against code if you tied any electrical ground into it.
@brianbrady9475
@brianbrady9475 9 ай бұрын
@@TKCL no I only went to that bonding post on the motor
@joshmc4328
@joshmc4328 Ай бұрын
So you're saying they won't let you use no liquid tight conduit from the pump to the timer. The pump must be able to be unplugged?
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
That "was" the rule, but I've heard it has changed.
@rafaelarita3956
@rafaelarita3956 2 ай бұрын
Good video brother, what is the black device in top of you skimmer ?
@poppatello
@poppatello Ай бұрын
How did you tie each end together? You only show one end around the whole pool l, going to the skimmer, then to the pump. Where is the end of the wire go?
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
You make a continuous loop, never cut it. I started at one post and looped all the way around back to that post, clamping two wires together. I then kept going up to the skimmer plate and then down to the motor were it ended. One big continuous loop ending at the motor is what you want.
@jonathangreenawalt5724
@jonathangreenawalt5724 Жыл бұрын
Ik you dont have much freezing temperatures down there, but how are you going to protect the spigot you just installed by the pool to refill it from freezing temperatures?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Florida, very rare we deal with that. And I'll drip it like I do the other 10 spigots on the property.
@demandyourhealth4293
@demandyourhealth4293 Жыл бұрын
Some how I got unsubscribed so now I got to go back and watch all the episodes I missed
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I hate when that happens!
@hv2268
@hv2268 17 күн бұрын
Is it normal to not have an “on” tripper? Mine only has the off and the one that you shouldn’t unscrew
@TKCL
@TKCL 17 күн бұрын
I'm not familiar with all the switches, I personally want an automatic on and off switch.
@billsistrunk6058
@billsistrunk6058 10 ай бұрын
Great job on this video. Quick question: at about 26:53 you show another box below the box for the twistlock receptical. What is it for? Is it just another service receptical? Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
@TKCL
@TKCL 10 ай бұрын
That's on the same timer switch to run my ionizer when the pool pump is on.
@billsistrunk6058
@billsistrunk6058 10 ай бұрын
@@TKCLgot it. Thanks for responding.
@ryanpopken9870
@ryanpopken9870 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a waste pipe or hose attached to your filter? I suggest this so you do not get a mud hole next to your pool.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
I currently do not, I let it waste out in the yard from a short pipe so it spreads out. I'm 3 weeks into running this and I've only went up 1 PSI on my pressure gauge, at this rate I will not be back flushing very often.
@Nairdanel
@Nairdanel 2 ай бұрын
Daily learning lesson, but self taps was probably incorrect
@edgarflores9064
@edgarflores9064 6 күн бұрын
I have a question though does the bare ground you have to run it from the panel or just around the pool and the pump?
@TKCL
@TKCL 6 күн бұрын
Just around the pool to the pump. That's bonding. Don't forget there is a ground inside the Conduit ran to the pump wires. That comes from the panel.
@edgarflores9064
@edgarflores9064 6 күн бұрын
Thanks appreciate you bro
@OldCritters
@OldCritters Жыл бұрын
👍💞
@jenniferjones5156
@jenniferjones5156 29 күн бұрын
I have a question. Do you know anything about using filter balls instead of sand
@TKCL
@TKCL 28 күн бұрын
No I don't, this is the only filter I have ever used.
@jackjoshlin
@jackjoshlin Жыл бұрын
have you considered a VFD pump for better efficiency?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
No, I just bought a package deal and a variable pump wasn't offered. I am considering a lower flow solar pump.
@user-ng3yt3ec4i
@user-ng3yt3ec4i 9 күн бұрын
So I have a Hayward pump as a spare it's brand new and the old one is 3 years old but it doesn't have where I can connect the copper wire can you make a suggestion and if this is cold now what do we do when we have a pool like mine that doesn't have this bonding I'm just wondering is this an Overkill because never had to do it before?
@TKCL
@TKCL 7 күн бұрын
It's code, but could be a little overkill. I am not sure why your pump does not have a bonding lug.
@slappadabass3290
@slappadabass3290 Ай бұрын
Where did you bond all the 8ga together? From filter, pool supports, and pump
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
It's one continuous loop all the way around the pool bonded to 4 evenly spaced supports. I looped back through one support, up to the skimmer plate and ended it at the pool pump. You don't want to break the wire at any location, you are asking for corrosion and a poor connection.
@slappadabass3290
@slappadabass3290 Ай бұрын
@@TKCL so it starts and ends at the pool pump?
@joshmc4328
@joshmc4328 Ай бұрын
or you could just buy some 12/3 or 10/3 and used the white or the red as your main ground...
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
Regular romex will not pass inspection. It must be a seperarate and fully insulated ground.
@joshmc4328
@joshmc4328 20 күн бұрын
@@TKCL 12/3 & or 10/3 has 4 insulated wires + a solid uninsulated copper, Green, White, Red & Black + copper. Just so u know next time...
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
The phyical difference in a bonded circuit versus a grounded one is that it does not contain any device in line between it and earth which could insert / introduce any degree of resistance (DC/AC) or impedance (AC only) to impede the flow of electrons which require a "gradient" or more energy on one side than the other through a conductor calculated by voltage over distance. The flow continues until the circuit reaches a common potential or equal charge and electrons no longer flow between any two points. Or when everything is truly directly connected to earth ground and at a potential difference of zero volts between any two electrically conductive paths. Just put your tongue on a 9 volt battery to demonstrate 😂
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Good information, I should have known you would have plenty of knowledge on the subject.
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
This can be easily demonstrated by taking a digital voltage meter measuring between the ground and neutral leg on a receptacle. Typically in any urban environment you will see a few or more millivolts of potential difference in energy due to capacitive reactance. The galvanized steel cold water pipe is the urban equivalent of a grounding rod and is often a single point of failure which can build up resistance impeding the flow to ground - a critical component ... UL Listed Heavy Duty Grounding pipe clamp ASIN B0BM5N6S9F A common misconception is that electricity will ... "take the path of least resistance." Rather it takes all paths available "In an inverse proportion to the impedance of the paths." Current will simultaneously flow through all available paths to a lower gradient potential of energy. So you want to be certain that the correct one is as close to perfect as possible. Every house has one check yours for corrosion.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Thats another reason code requires two ground rods and two points of contact.
@opitz36
@opitz36 2 ай бұрын
@@TKCLis there not a requirement for a separate ground rod for the bonding?? If you put one in near the pool, I missed it.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 ай бұрын
@@opitz36 here you tie all electrical equipment back to the main house ground rods. Thus the need for an insulated green ground wire. Check your local code.
@richardscarlett7942
@richardscarlett7942 Жыл бұрын
I went to check out Vevor because of your videos talking about them. Are you aware that they are using your video and likeness on their website about the mag drill at the bottom of the home page? Just mentioning it incase you werent aware.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
Yes, it actually helps me because if you click on that video I get views on KZfaq. They asked my permission before posting.
@richardscarlett7942
@richardscarlett7942 Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL cool, was just looking out.
@jonzeejonez4585
@jonzeejonez4585 Ай бұрын
Is this required all above ground pools...
@TKCL
@TKCL Ай бұрын
You need to check your local code, it usually is and sometimes more.
@MrGadget77015
@MrGadget77015 10 ай бұрын
With all this being said and done, I just had a pool company install myself a new 24 foot pool with metal sides and I informed him that it needed bounded up to the new 1hp motor which has a grouding lug and he said most of its resin materials and it not needed, so now what should I do?
@TKCL
@TKCL 10 ай бұрын
It's required is my understanding.
@SteveStowell
@SteveStowell 15 күн бұрын
Don’t pay them as work is not compliant
@DeWaltjunkie
@DeWaltjunkie 9 күн бұрын
Im confused because all that metal on pool are grounded so why do all this
@TKCL
@TKCL 8 күн бұрын
You are confusing grounding with bonding. Bonding ties all metallic surfaces together and gives it an electrical path away from you and the water for safety reason. You do not achieve this with painted metal in the dirt, pool ladders on decks and the water sitting inside a vinyl liner.
@5150cash
@5150cash Жыл бұрын
Not first 😞 but I'm here
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
3rd, might as well be last Cash! 🤣
@5150cash
@5150cash Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL well you know Dale Earnhardt was number three and they called him the intimidator 😏😬😬😬look at y'all
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
You don't intimidate me 😏
@5150cash
@5150cash Жыл бұрын
@@TKCL 👀👀
@jefffrancis6824
@jefffrancis6824 Жыл бұрын
👀
@43pasadena
@43pasadena Жыл бұрын
Did you bond your ladder?👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
No because I haven't installed my deck or deck ladder. I will bond one of the through deck bolts.
@christiansandoval8139
@christiansandoval8139 Жыл бұрын
Suprised you had trouble getting thhn by the foot I’m a industrial electrician any Elliot’s electrical supply house would’ve sold it by the foot and home depot too
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
My Lowes and home depot sells it, problem is they were all sold out. My local electrical supply house only sells it in 500ft rolls. Had to travel to a Lowes in the next state to find it, they only had one 250ft roll.
@franciscoarias6245
@franciscoarias6245 11 ай бұрын
Is there a potential danger if the pump ISNT running? I figured you could use the pool WITHOUT running the pump And simply running the pump after you get out and no one’s inside?
@TKCL
@TKCL 11 ай бұрын
No danger, use with or without.
@jonathangreenawalt5724
@jonathangreenawalt5724 Жыл бұрын
I also think an outlet must be so many feet away from a spigot?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
There could be a rule for that, but I didn't see it. If I need to dig up and move this over a foot or two it would be a quick job.
@jonathangreenawalt5724
@jonathangreenawalt5724 Жыл бұрын
@The Kelley's Country Life I think I just might be mistaken. The only thing I can find is the fact that it has to be gfci protected, with which it already is. If you do find the code let me know.
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
The only rule I've heard of and it appears to be a local rule (next county over) is separation of water and electric in the same trench. Think about all the bathroom sinks with receptacles at the sink top.
@marcfrank590
@marcfrank590 2 ай бұрын
Are you using a salt system? If so!!! Your pool will rust out if your components are made of metal. Because salt and metal don’t mix. Salt will eat away at the metal.
@TKCL
@TKCL 2 ай бұрын
No, I'm using a copper ionizer.
@jessicachaddondrea8797
@jessicachaddondrea8797 27 күн бұрын
How do you tie in your copper bonding wire to the house electrical?
@TKCL
@TKCL 27 күн бұрын
Bonding and grounding are two different things. You tie the pump electrical to house ground via the wiring ran from my sub panel.
@jessicachaddondrea8797
@jessicachaddondrea8797 27 күн бұрын
@@TKCL ok so my question is what do I do with that copper wire once I have it bonded to my pool side, uprights, water (skimmer), and pump?
@TKCL
@TKCL 27 күн бұрын
@jessicachaddondrea8797 nothing, you made a complete bonding loop that's buried and terminates at the pump lug.
@jessicachaddondrea8797
@jessicachaddondrea8797 27 күн бұрын
Thank you
@jp34604
@jp34604 Жыл бұрын
Folks, did you "like" this video?
@TKCL
@TKCL Жыл бұрын
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