You can see the line only when that black bait is behind.

The one thing about this is the ultra-clear water. When you fish off color water, well it will make the line, no matter what you use, very hard for any fish to see. The clearer the water yes for sure.

Awesome bro. Thanks for the time and planning it took to make this vid and the others! 👍🏻👍🏻

Absolutely love your pool tests!

Thanks for the great info! It certainly changes the way I will think from now on.

I love the pool test...Please Continue!

Great video as always. Confirmed my thinking all the way

Good information! I'm with you on the necessity of leaders with braid.

Great video like always keep them up

Love the test, and I use fluro because I'm told it's better, but I'm not seeing the difference in visibility. Both were invisible against the water and both were visible against the dark bait.

Subscribed to your channel last night, I’ve watched a few of your videos...I like how you use your camera to do these tests, keep it up, tight lines buddy🎣🐟

You are funny man, luv yr enthusiasm!

I use fluoro leaders on my braid but having said that I still think fish can still see fluoro. If even the little bit of fluoro we can see with our eyes underwater you know fish can see it also. They have obviously much better vision than us. Braid is just straight out obnoxiously visible. I think the braid scares fish away much less than fluoro. And not only that I am sure fish can sense the vibration in the water from the lihe. However if they are hungry they will eat the bait anyway. They are not sophisticated creatures. The real test lies in bow many fish actually turn away from our baits. We have way of knowing as we cannot see how many fish have looked at our lures and turned away underwater.

The first few seconds are how my kids react when I tell them we're going to the pool too hahaha!

Awesome video🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

Good test!

Thanks again for the video. Another reason I like the braid/fluorocarbon combo is that with a high vis color of braid, I can easily see the line at the surface but the fish can't see my line at the lure. Seeing the surface line well opens up the very productive world of slack line fishing.

Great video thanks 👍

Todd this is great information! After you illustrated that alternative termination knot (not blood knot), I tied one on after failing to get it right several times. If you could please show that agin, I would appreciate it. I have 14# flouro leader on 15# braid on my light bass spinning outfit. For popping corks and tight lining, I prefer mono or Vanish flouro (no leader). I dare not put braid on any baitcaster, as I am subject to birds nests and cannot afford to set that rod in the holder if I ball up! Ha. I only use the braid on my worm rod for bass. I'm still a big fan of mono for the most part, but have dabbled with straight mono on baitcasters when there actually used to be trout in Lake P.

question what color braid were you using. It would be pretty interesting in seeing different color braid in different water conditions. Thanks for the video

I am a braid fella as well. I use momo 25lb as a shock leader. I am more confident on tying my knots than I am with braid. I like the little stretch that you get with the mono as well. But like you said I dont fish in a swimming pool or water that clear lol. Great video

Todd I would like to see a video based on which action looks the best underwater according to line type. Maybe with different jig weights cause I’m wondering if using straight mono or flouro vs braid with mono or flouro leader.

Another video that would be nice is different gear ratio reels and how it affects fishing artificial

Awesome video MMM. Really appreciate the professional presentation. We took it all back to Mono from all Braid with so many guests coming on the boat. It's just easier and we still fill the cooler with specks. Maybe even more ^^

Well done, I use both applications , lean more towards mono , I haven’t found gin clear water in Hopedale or Delacroix, with the exception of fishing for Reds in grass and it looks just like the natural grass !!

I’ve caught more fish this year than ever since I started using a mono leader tied to braid vs. tied straight to braid

Many will laugh, but I grew up way before braid was an issue (Saltwater Surf). I used monofilament. Andy, Berkley, and Stren led the way. Well, Andy was always the popular surf line, Berkly the popular rig trying line, and Stren for Fluking. So my limited assessment, Andy is great for the beach, Stren Brown was great for the jetties/rocks, and Berkley is still great for shock leader. I have recently become a braid user for surf casting, but that is it. It's great for distance and cutting wind, but the fact that it has no give is equally a problem in some key situations. Circle hooks no longer require superpower upon hook set. But sometimes freeing from structure or other obstacles, having a little stretch helps. It's not just the viz, it's also the function. Just an FYI, from an old sea dog. Thx 4 the Vid it is very informative.

Great test how about trying it again with the invisi braid or in stained water

Awesome confirmation. Double Uni for the win....

I’m also a huge braid fan! I used to tie straight braid until last year when I lost my PB trout 30+ inches right at the kayak. Using braid straight to the jerk bait cost me no stretch in the line which caused the hooks to do all the stretching and snap! 15-20 Fluor leader is on every rod now!

What about that honkin weight ?? And people are worried about there line, come on people. Love your show brother and this is not directed at you or your show. Its about over thinking things. Fish really are NOT that smart. Look... Huge hooks, weights, soft plastics, some dont even look real and they catch fish. And people are soooo concerned about there line.

I love the test brother. Can you do one in darker water....... Living in NC we fish mostly brackish. I would be very curious what all three would look like......

In a pool sure but the slightly greenish tint of teal fishery’s will help with the braid

I use mono + fluoro on my baitcaster because braid is constantly getting caught on trees...other pieces of line..anything close to it.. etc...although I dont knock its values....

I saw some test that showed white braid was harder to see than some fluoro. I’m going to try it and see.

What I now wonder is does visibility really make a difference depending on the retrieval speed? If I’m finesse fishing for smallies in a crystal clear creek, I definitely want a very light fuoro. But fishing a clear ocean for false albies or mackerel, when both the fish and lure are moving extremely fast? I still have my doubts it matters as much.

Ok I want to buy a Lew’s MD series just to stay up w you. Does yours have the funny looking box between handle and body that they call the the speed spool LFS series and do I need that.

Glad to know my confirmation bias has been confirmed. I’ll continue to tie leaders on the end of my braid. Good video. I find myself fishing more out of my pool since you started these videos.

In most waters in S Louisiana it's not clear enough to make any difference. I still find it to be a confidence booster to use fluero

I agree with your assessment for the most part...it would be interesting to see the different types of line in various colors...also, how do you explain the effectiveness of A-rigs, where the baits are attached directly to wires?

Great pool test, what's your favorite knot for tying your lines together?

What size weight was that? And that was a regular zoom z craw not the Jr. Right sir?

I've seen it with my own eyes while diving trying to unsnag my line in a clear tropical reef water. I just cannot see the fluoro leader I was using, it was so surreal and totally different when out of water. And no, I couldn't unsnag it because the current is too strong for me and the water is too deep for me.

Todd believe or not found clean water in the lake ponchatrain basin yesterday and ended up wrecking the trout

Never have been a fan of braid (with or without leader) unless it’s top water. I have a huge bias for fluoro I want my line to be as invisible as possible.

So no need to use leaders if my main line is already flouro??? 😊

My uncle JB put bright yellow stren on all his jigging poles. He said that’s why he caught thousands of fish because they would follow the line down to the bait. 😂

I really choose My line type often based on whether I want it to sink or float. Not really what it looks like. That being said often I feel the edge with flouro.

With a light backdrop like your pool floor, of course dark braid is visible. People use white braid when fishing clear surf because it blends in to the Sandy backdrop. If you were filming with a muddy lake bottom backdrop, dark braid would be very hard to see. I don't think lots of people viewing this will be fishing out of their cement pond...

I use fluorocarbon leaders, but to be honest, I didn’t see enough difference between mono and fluoro to justify the difference in price. I might switch to mono and see if there is a difference in the way the fish behave. When they bite they are close enough to see the line no matter what you use. Good video. Changed my mind at least.

Perfect example of Google supplying me with what I wanted withiout me knowing. hahaha can't wait to see this.

I too have a Fitzgerald all purpose rod. You casting reel is a lee Truman md?

I for the most part you 15 Fluor on everything but I’m not scared to use braid when I’m fishing grass our muddy water

Don’t use mono for anything. I don’t find the visibility of it an issue. The stretch factor is the problem for me. I find it difficult to get good hooksets with it.

Yes, Yes!, Yes!!!

What would be good for murky water

Fantastic test, you convinced me! I’ve been using straight braid and now I regret it. Leaders it is, from now on.

Need a dark brown tile or something to out to simulate the bottom...

I agree, fluoro is slightly less visible especially when there is a dark background. However I dont think fluoro vs mono will make a difference in most conditions.

If you could figure out a way it would be cool to see what certain color soft plastics look like in stained water or marsh water. Like electric chicken, white, chartreuse, etc.

On braided line usually using fluoro or mono leader ! Of course is visible just braided ...

All lines have their place but for bass fishing in our south la waters that usually muddy to brown or black I dont think the braid will make a difference. I've caught just as many fish flipping with braid as the other guys using flouro. Now for trout fishing I will use a flouro leader because those little dudes are picky lol.

Why does a skinny little line scare fish away, but that big hook doesn’t bother them a lick?

Marsh Man, why don't you get a little enthusiastic....lol! I like the pool vids a lot too.

If you fish in murky water dark green braid is really less visible than mono or even fluoro.

its not about humans seeing the line underwater ive been studying line for year and first thing u must ALWAY REMEMBER AND I STRONGLY REMIND YOU YOU MUST ALWAY ALWAYS REMEMBER fish see diffrently to us they can see 3/4 of the light spectrum way more than we can see so i recomend u do a test in salt water then get a white light yellow light ir light red light blue light uv light green light and last of all a thermal camera by doing this u get an understanding of what most fish see hope it helps GOOD FISHING GUYS

What is everyone opinion about "speed clips" people say that fish can see it but....wouldnt they see the hooks too?

The real test would be to test in an actual clear fishing environment where the water has some green tint and use moss green mono. It might beat the clear floro.

This test tells me Mono is all anyone needs Walleye Fishing

Co polymer? In red.

Braid line that is when fishing in grass

Should’ve tried invisibraid from spiderwire

So you are telling me the fish do not like the line. But they can clearly see the hook and weight and that is not a problem.

How are them fitzgeralds?

Doesn’t it matter what the water clarity is?

this isnt like a real scenerio. rare you'll find a body of water that clear. i also think fish gets tunnel visions like us or similar to be able to focus into their target so they wont be paying attention to whats in the background but unless you use a worm and bobber then you should worry about the visibility of the line

Ok, I won't tie braid straight to my lure anymore........now to learn a new knot.

Yes yes yeah alright 🤣

Fluoro is what I use no matter what. I've hated braid and mono. I started using fluoro when it first really started making waves and noticed that my catch increased astronomically. Using the same set up back then really helped me key in to how well fluoro actually was but let me also say that cheap fluoro while people think that it's all the same I'm gonna hard disagree. It's not. I live seagur red label for fishing for fun because I'm in recovery and line cost effects me. Bps I heard used seagur and I can't tell a difference in the two. 15 to 20 lb is perfect and anyone who wants there line to offer more breakage lbs than it's rated is just overpriced l inexperienced. I guess if you only buy cheap stuff it's ok but I've never had one instance of even low lbs/gauge braid breaking ever. Line tests are your friend, not your enemy. Especially if your like me and save every damn thing you have towards fishing. I'm skipping meals at this point so I can fish but who cares. Bass fishing is my passion in life and so long as I eat 2k calories a day I'm good. I can stand to lose weight 😆💓. Your test proved everything I've known for years. I've had so many arguments by inexperienced people who use braid for everything. Braid does have its uses but it's not the Swiss army knife of fishing... Fluoro is.

i don't know what fish see, but if you tied a cheeseburger to braid, a chain or fluorocarbon, I wouldn't care. Put a big shiner or shad on the end and the fish won't either.

In the water we fish in lousiana i dont believe there is a difference in mono and fluoro visibility

I think to a fish's eyes it doesn't really matter whether you use clear monofilament or fluorocarbon. In my opinion fluorocarbon is a scam. It's the only line that I ever truly hated. It frayed and it was terrible at the knot. Monofilament for the win.

Fluoro is just too expensive , love the video though

MM, I gotta play devil's advocate here. In the chocolate milk of the marsh is low vis line really necessary?

Jesus, how did anyone ever catch a fish before we had braided lines?

Sammmeee dude braid all da waaaaaayyyyyy

Green background with braid and it would be much harder to see

Good grief. We have spinnerbaits made of metal and look like nothing in nature, huge sinkers and beads, lures with three sets of treble hooks hanging off of it and a giant plastic tongue sticking out front of it....and dont even get me started on fly fishing....but we're supposed to worry about whether fish can spot our fishing line?? lol! For all we know, even if fish spot the line, they likely interpret it as part of the environment, like a strand of weed or something. Secondly, most fish either have poor eyesight (catfish, carp) or ambush predators that strike on reflex (bass, pike, trout), or hide in cover or live in murky water where line visibility is a none issue anyway.

I JUST USE MONO

wonder what the fish thinks of that bullet sinker ???? fellows , we're after fish not customers !!!!

Just my 2 cents

Yes, certainly if you use the darkest, most visible color of braid you can find, it will be visible. Try the white or pink, then let's see. This really wasn't much of a test.

Now do it in muddy water

I'd be more concerned about that huge hook ????!!!!!!!!!!!

Fish eyes and human eyes are different…. We are simply selling lines to fishermen. Extensive underwater tests with real fish would be the only way to even get a clue.

Try it again in dirty water….

Ok now do the same test in dirty lake water and not crystal clear pool water!!!

NO

Its so funny to me..... Doesnt anybody think the hook is visible ?? Lol. over thinking it peeps. What about that plug your using with 3 sets of treble hooks, BUT someone wants to use fluorocarbon, Lol !!! So funny, just sayin.

lmao like fish really care about some rope on the shit they wanna eat. They don't.