Poorest Towns in the UK - Greenock, Inverclyde

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It’s now time to talk about the ugly sides of towns and cities in the UK that many of the adherents of such towns don’t want to hear. No matter how positively we try to look at the town of Greenock, Inverclyde, we would always find that it is one of the poorest towns in the United Kingdom. If you are objective enough, you won’t be shocked that it is. After all, this is not the first time the town would be ranked this way. You likely have seen it listed among the poorest towns in Scotland. However, is this town poor? If it is, why is it poor? What effect has that had on aspects of life in this town?
Greenock in Brief
Before we go into all that, please let’s tell you a bit more about Greenock. It’s a town in the Inverclyde area. Greenock was home to Greenock Dockyard Company, a shipbuilding firm, the demolished Easter Greenock Castle, Greenock Morton FC, a Scottish football team, and Greenock Telegraph, an Inverclyde local newspaper.
It used to be a former constituency of the British House of Commons, of Greenock and Port Glasgow, a former constituency of the UK House of Commons, and Greenock and Inverclyde, a former constituency of the Scottish Parliament. Today, it is an administrative center in the Inverclyde Council area, though a former burgh within the Renfrewshire historic county. It’s a Scottish town located in the west-central Lowlands.
Is Greenock Really Poor?
Do we really have any justification for describing Greenock as one of the poorest towns in the UK? Let’s look at what stakeholders say about this. We’ll consider statistics and the living cost.
The unemployment rate of the 1970s and 1980s as a result of the decline in industries hasn’t really abated. It continued into the dawn of the millennium such that even two decades into the 21st century, the town still needs to grapple with a serious lack of jobs.
As of October 2012, the unemployment rate in Greenock was 5.3 percent. That was above the Scottish average of 3.9 percent. Of course, this figure was for the Scottish Parliament constituency which includes Gourock, Inverkip, Port Glasgow, and Wemyss Bay. Yet, Greenock’s figure was even worse, if taken in isolation. Ten years, later things have only started improving.
Index of Multiple Deprivation
In reviewing matters of poverty and affluence in the UK, the Index of Multiple Deprivation data is crucially relevant. In this regard, the Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation (SIMD) is informative. In several SIMDs, this town appears to be seriously lagging. For example, in the latest of this study, Greenock’s center was named the poverty black spot. According to the report, the Inverclyde area, which is mainly Greenock, has the largest share of deprived areas.
This is especially apparent in the domains of income and health, according to the study of these. Even on other indicators such as crime, unemployment, quality of life, and how long people in Greenock need to travel to get to a GP, things aren’t bright for the town. BBB Scotland’s social affairs correspondent, Chris Clement remarked that there were few surprises in that SIMD update regarding its ranking of Inverclyde as Greenock fell from 23 in the last rank to the most-deprived town center in Scotland. He had earlier noticed a high number of hard-drug-related hospital admissions. Ranking second-worst in health outcomes isn’t unexpected. By the way, the town has also been scoring low repeatedly on educational outcomes.
Comparing the economic situation of the town in 2016 to what was in 2020, Jim Clocherty the deputy leader of the Inverclyde Council said that they have discovered that more investment was needed in Greenock communities. While analyzing the available figures, he said: “These figures are a bitter pill to swallow and show that investment can’t come soon enough. No part of Scotland wants to be labeled as the ‘most deprived.”
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@molecatcher3383
@molecatcher3383 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best people are the poor people. Greenock is very close to the beautiful Scottish Highlands, the lovely islands of the Firth of Clyde and has big areas of open countryside all around. It has lovely Scottish folk living there and has not been excessively "culturally enriched". It is poor because all the well paid jobs were exported overseas but many people in the town commute to well paid jobs in Glasgow which is not too far away and there are good rail and road connections. There is a big, well equiped, hospital there and plenty of shops. Overall not too bad, do not be misled by the bare numbers.
@jazz185
@jazz185 Жыл бұрын
Always was a tough wee toon, most sea ports are, but if you grew up here in the 50s to the early 80s you'll probably have happy enough memories of what was a good town with reasonable prospects. Unfortunately with the onslaught of the drug culture, and unemployment, like many towns, it has went downhill. God speed Greenock.
@FeedbackPete1
@FeedbackPete1 Жыл бұрын
My mate Scott who lives in Drumchapel loves coming down to Port Glasgow and Greenock to see me. It's a more relaxed pace from the hustle and bustle of Glasgow city centre he says. I've him the view from Lyle Hill which is world class. Not an overstatement. And recently introduced him to the delights of the Esplanade Cafés ice cream. Still amongst the best I've tried. Last few years I've enjoyed seeing the dolphins in the Clyde in summer. Also a trip on the boat to the sugar ship. What I love about Inverclyde is that there is easy access to the countryside and walks such as along the Cut or up Corlic hill. And there are amenities for locals. But if your looking for more something bigger. With great train links Glasgow is only 30 minutes away. I'm also glad that China Crisis are coming to play here at The Albany. Just go to show there are alternatives for bands to Glasgow.
@niamhconnolly2694
@niamhconnolly2694 Жыл бұрын
I’m from Greenock/port Glasgow, I moved to Dublin 15 years ago. I never knew it was one of the most poorest places in the uk but knew there wasn’t much opportunity at home I worked a lot of the main electronics factories in the area like IBM, Mimtec n few others but Greenock has amazing scenery n people my family are all still there. Hope it gets out of this “poor list” 😂
@mimi64231
@mimi64231 Жыл бұрын
I was Greenock 4 years ago. In my opinion, Greenock is lovely place. All the best from Poland.
@KittyO7878
@KittyO7878 Жыл бұрын
IBM has gone entirely now, I'm also from the area but moved away just over 2 years ago.
@FOTOMOTOGP
@FOTOMOTOGP 9 ай бұрын
I used to live in Greenock. It’s always had its rough and tough areas. Overall the people were always warm and welcoming, and I’m sure they still are. It’s not the fault of the working class people that their livelihoods were taken away from them with the closure of the shipyards. No work, no money, no hope. How can you expect people to survive and be happy. Even when the shipyards were open, the work was tough. So many men would drink a fair bit because they were depressed with their existence. This led to poverty. Missing the rent then never being able to catch up. Gambling to try and catch up but getting further and further in debt. Using money lenders to survive, but in the end making matters worse. Drinking, smoking and gambling. Today it’s drugs. Greenock had such great architecture and character. Some town planners and councillors need to seriously look at the decisions they made in destroying the character and history of the town in the name of “progress” and “regeneration”. Come on people of Greenock. You live in an area of beautiful scenery. You have a great history. You are great, warm and friendly people. Don’t let people put you down. Let your educated young people show you the way forward to regenerate the town for today’s world. God Speed Greenock.
@ukcharlie7591
@ukcharlie7591 2 ай бұрын
Excellent comment - 100% right on same way all over the UK back in the day but you are right one dark chapter was replaced with another!
@MrZOMBIE170
@MrZOMBIE170 10 ай бұрын
Inverclyde Turing into a wee Africa
@johnscott3714
@johnscott3714 2 ай бұрын
Greenock and Port Glasgow are changing beyond all recognition and it's all down to politicians.
@happybee7725
@happybee7725 Жыл бұрын
The footage in this video is more or less the better parts of greenock. The photographer must have been too scared to go into the schemes or he did go into the schemes but got mugged and had his camera taken off him.
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
It’s greenock not New York pal you’re trying to make it out like a ghetto get a grip
@dave-kr6sc
@dave-kr6sc Жыл бұрын
It's not the town it's the people and their attitudes the history of that wee town is spectacular and they should remember their ancestors and what they sacrificed for the people that live their today
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 Жыл бұрын
What about transport like buses and trains. Greenock does have good transport links to Glasgow including ScotRail and the new Class 385 trains that are suitable to cope with more extra passengers during rush hour.
@trentsteele1986
@trentsteele1986 Жыл бұрын
spent time there in the late 80s great live music scene ok it was no stuck up and stiff town like you find down south but i liked it and cost of living was cheap
@Hjack460
@Hjack460 25 күн бұрын
Growing up in Greenock up the gibby the memories of them days had more good than bad. Might not of had much but everyone looked after each other always had a smile and asked if you were ok.
@davidnichol6282
@davidnichol6282 2 ай бұрын
It shows you how materialistic we have become, being poor is not a crime, although the way some talk about it you would think its a crime.
@MegaGordyboy
@MegaGordyboy Жыл бұрын
you never mentioned the new 20 million pound health centre which opened last year,the 19 million pound visitors centre for the 130 cruise ships from all over the world will open in a few weeks.we are hardly living on bread and water.
@jackcharlie9322
@jackcharlie9322 10 ай бұрын
Still low tier
@momo1760
@momo1760 9 ай бұрын
And what happens when them cruise ships come in uts certainly not greenock that reaps the rewards as soon as there here there put on a bus and heading to Glasgow or Edinburgh another waste of money from the council 😂😂
@Yu-Gi-OhScotland
@Yu-Gi-OhScotland 5 ай бұрын
@@momo1760exactly theres coaches sitting there waiting on them disembarking… the only thing the cruise passengers use in Greenock is the Oak Malls free Wi-Fi 😂
@TJL6969
@TJL6969 Ай бұрын
Meanwhile in the real world folk here are using Foodbanks
@joe18425
@joe18425 10 ай бұрын
Thatcher
@lukeh465
@lukeh465 Жыл бұрын
The scenery around the town looks pretty great though!
@jazz185
@jazz185 8 ай бұрын
Great toon. Born in the Rankin as most were in the fifties onwards. Rooms in the Ann St area then Royal St Gourock, Margaret St.. Branchton in 1957 til 74, Braeside then Gourock. Not much different from from Drumchapel, Coatbridge etc. Scotland.
@Jesus420.69
@Jesus420.69 10 ай бұрын
I remember driving into Greenock for the first time and being surprised about how crap and run down it looked.
@lenaperminova5418
@lenaperminova5418 Жыл бұрын
Greenock has its cons, some dreadful ones, but this video was nevertheless completely inaccurate and misinformed.
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
Well obviously Greenock has it's cons - there is a prison there after all. 😉
@fintonstack1608
@fintonstack1608 6 ай бұрын
No mention of IBM and the chip manufacturers leaving in the 90s, after 40 years. This was the final nail in our town. The upper working class and lower middle class lost everything after that, and we've yet to recover. Great to see incoming investment. Perhaps there's life in the old Toon after all!
@stuartd9663
@stuartd9663 4 ай бұрын
Lived in Inveclyde all my life and this video is one of the most uninformed I've ever heard. I doubt the people who made this have ever been to Inverclyde.
@SarahSilly10
@SarahSilly10 11 ай бұрын
Lets remember the council build flats on top of nuclear waste lol
@lorenzom7237
@lorenzom7237 8 ай бұрын
???? What???
@christolliday3054
@christolliday3054 Ай бұрын
I think Greenock has huge potential I have a freind and his family live there they love it.......The people seem user freindly as well lets hope this community can set an example of whats really possible...
@MrZOMBIE170
@MrZOMBIE170 10 ай бұрын
under huge cottage to to be on the hill above the Cardwell garden center never head of it before
@owenmccall632
@owenmccall632 8 ай бұрын
Same as anywhere else,there is a huge gap between the haves and havenots.the area hasnt really recovered from the government vandalism to shipyards and other heavy engineering employment.
@Newton2109
@Newton2109 Жыл бұрын
Wehm iss bay
@mick6949
@mick6949 Жыл бұрын
You don't know what your talking about 😂😂
@onemanandhisdog
@onemanandhisdog 10 ай бұрын
My town has some of the best people in the world! The best scenery in the world! Wee problem is, theres people in this town with shit loads of money who like to keep greenock appear poor to make themselves look bigger and better! We have so much potential here, we just have to realise it and take the opportunities! The potential here for a small community to grow is there in abundance. We just need to get wash out the snobs and embrace the people❤
@Dylanm849
@Dylanm849 Жыл бұрын
Greenock is nice if you’re just going along the waterfront
@TheColdHarshTruth
@TheColdHarshTruth 3 ай бұрын
First place I ever got in a fight in my life. I was three years old. Got stabbed in the back with a nail file for being on some kid’s swing.
@arch52mccallum
@arch52mccallum Жыл бұрын
wheres kelburn , robert st, larkfied etc that the real poor deprived parts blame the torys they privatised and shut down everything in the area
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
Kelburn & Boaby St. are in the Port, no Greenock. The Tories will solve the problem with the bottom feeders once they take away the NHS and the goblins won't be able to afford the massive costs for treatment for their knife wounds or alcohol poisoning which will probably kill off 90% of the locals!
@kevinmccavanagh2460
@kevinmccavanagh2460 9 ай бұрын
Got three kids all employed never not worked plenty opportunity every we're 😊
@kevza1978
@kevza1978 Жыл бұрын
Very inaccurate.
@MrJimclyde
@MrJimclyde 6 ай бұрын
Rubbish ! Try the West end and The Esplanade of Greenock! And nearby town of Gourock! The most expensive houses in Scotland!
@isabelstokes4042
@isabelstokes4042 3 ай бұрын
Blame Margaret Thatcher for closing down the shipyards. I grew up there and it was just fine.
@YahiaChamp21
@YahiaChamp21 Жыл бұрын
I vlogged Greenock
@user-jv5nx2sx7z
@user-jv5nx2sx7z 3 ай бұрын
Of course, Nigeria high School
@jedlinnen6528
@jedlinnen6528 11 ай бұрын
The place is pathetic. People live in appalling conditions that would not be tolerated in a civilized society. The roads are hostile to pedestrians and the town's planning is backward. It's rough and the police are non responsive. I could go on and on but it's all too depressing
@user-bb9lb7lu7l
@user-bb9lb7lu7l Жыл бұрын
Ach, Ah min' weel Greenock an' Largs, it's a wheen years syne noo, but thae wur guid times. Ah mind the IBM, guid fowk thare. Ye ken, Glasgae an' the airts aroon' thare can be a bittie rough, aye, even back then it wis yin o' the maist craiturie an' drug-hingin' places in aw o' the UK. But maist o' the fowk wur braw an' brawlie aff wi' fowk fae abraid. Ye haed the bonnie hills an' the braw scenery, an' fowk whae wid pit thir ain mither afore onythin' else. An' ye cannae forget the braw pairty zone in Glasgae, can ye no? It wis a' crackin' back then.
@frickfrog6546
@frickfrog6546 Жыл бұрын
Ofc
@tomhewitt9187
@tomhewitt9187 Жыл бұрын
What "the inhearants of such towns don't want to hear"? I think you mean inhabitants. So they paid this person to read their script for their video and he's not reading it correctly?
@craigm6878
@craigm6878 Жыл бұрын
They can’t even spell Gourock correctly. It’s like listening to the station announcements on the train when he tried to pronounce Wemyss Bay.
@mairianncullen8753
@mairianncullen8753 7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the script is AI generated
@mouthyman5505
@mouthyman5505 5 ай бұрын
this video is out of date. it looks like it was made with pictures from the 90s to early 00s. i live in Greenock and its not as bad as this video says. if it was as bad as this video says all the cruise ships wouldn't dock here.
@whocanbreatheunderwater5423
@whocanbreatheunderwater5423 4 ай бұрын
Yeah you're right. It's much, much worse!
@MrZOMBIE170
@MrZOMBIE170 10 ай бұрын
wit gangs
@kevinmccavanagh2460
@kevinmccavanagh2460 9 ай бұрын
No poor people here where I stay... Junkies and alcoholic like every other town In the world....
@mrbushlied7742
@mrbushlied7742 Жыл бұрын
To me, Port Talbot will always be the worst town in the UK.
@JacquelineMelvin-cl7ny
@JacquelineMelvin-cl7ny 3 ай бұрын
Actually spell Gourock right and Say Greenock right 🤣🤣🤣
@maebtadhg8307
@maebtadhg8307 6 ай бұрын
Greenock far from poor, if your prepared to travel for work.
@toriatsikatten8941
@toriatsikatten8941 Жыл бұрын
as someone from greenock who goes to school outside of greenock, greenock is seen as this weird otherworldly place, i tell stories about the druggies, loons, and strange occurrences that i see, and the others who have been to greenock always confirm it. I have seen people defecate in buses, I've had to walk through the residential areas where there are gangs round every corner, half of the houses are completely run down and/or severely ugly and decrepit, all young people are loud, obnoxious, and violent neds, all the small shops have sticky wrappers, and there is no sort of internal economy. Back when the Ohio meme was around, everyone used to call the place the Ohio of Scotland as it is so genuinely strange. The only good thing about this town is Tonino's and the view from across the clyde.
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
Just a slight exaggeration there 😂😂. I’ve stayed in greenock my whole life and I’ve never had a problem. Worked all over scotland in the building trade and there’s a hell of a lot worse than greenock. Some people don’t realise how lucky they have it. When you’re out of town telling people about greenock why not talk about the positives instead of exaggerating the negatives we have.
@toriatsikatten8941
@toriatsikatten8941 Жыл бұрын
@@labos7250 well, as much as i get what you mean, i don't know the positives yet, except from the view, the water, and toninos
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
@@toriatsikatten8941 Hahaha where is hell of a lot worse than Greenock? Port Glasgow mibbes? Apart from that wee cluster of middle-class streets by the water towards Gourock, Greenock/Port is just one big concrete post-industrial wasteland.
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
@@l3awjawz most towns in Ayrshire, glasgow/Lanarkshire are and don’t get me started on places in fife. Perth, dundee all worse than greenock and inverclyde.
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
​@@labos7250 I won't argue that all the above have some real shitty places too. Most of them aren't as large or gang plagued as Greenock tho smaller places like the three towns of the North Ayrshire coast are probably as bad as Greenock/Port albeit on a smaller scale. Kilmarnock is another ned infested scumhole, though one thing I notice is that Greenock seems to have a disproportionate number of rival ned gangs for such a small area. Perth seems to be more middle-class than most of the others. Lanarkshire in the main is not dead rough so much as just plain shite and with a few exceptions here and there, I still find Lanarkshire to be overall less threatening than Greenock/Port. Some of the wilder parts of Glasgow are probably more dangerous overall, though it is a much more diverse place on the whole.
@colinmcgregor123
@colinmcgregor123 Ай бұрын
Votes for Westminter (labour)
@kevinmccavanagh2460
@kevinmccavanagh2460 9 ай бұрын
Get a grip every other car people drive in Greenock is brand new ffs
@mairianncullen8753
@mairianncullen8753 7 ай бұрын
The script and presenter both sound as if they were generated by AI.
@user-se9wb4uc9i
@user-se9wb4uc9i 11 ай бұрын
Not good enough
@kevintravis1807
@kevintravis1807 7 ай бұрын
Scottsdale national party doing nothing. Vote labour.❤
@ScranMan-oi8qg
@ScranMan-oi8qg Жыл бұрын
Paisley seems worse
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a competition by the way. I’ve stayed in both and paisley’s definitely worse 😂. Both naw as bad as they get made out imo but aye paisley just edges it for me.
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
​@@labos7250 Paisley only really has one really wild scheme but the rest of the town is pretty much like any other. If Feegie was wiped off the face of the Earth, then Paisley would probably be more desirable than many other towns in the Clyde area. In contrast, if aw the riff-raff were cleared out of Greenock, then it would be a tottie wee village with barely enough population to make up 2 fitba teams! 😅
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
@@l3awjawz only wild scheme in greenock was larkfield and the rest of the town is fine as well. The ports always been rougher than greenock.
@l3awjawz
@l3awjawz Жыл бұрын
​@@labos7250 The only wild scheme? Hmmm, I knew someone who used to do milk rounds in Gibshill and they were often chased out the scheme by local neds. The bit by Whinhill train station used to have a menacing atmosphere back in the day as did the Grieve Rd area during the fights between the 'Mavy' and 'Wrenny' gangs. I do believe that Larkfield could be pretty heavy between the tap and bottom ends tho doesn't Larkfield also include Braeside and Branchton as well? 😕
@labos7250
@labos7250 Жыл бұрын
@@l3awjawz it’s 2023 not the 2000s. There’s not been gang fighting in greenock for near 20 years.
@chrispaterson6372
@chrispaterson6372 7 ай бұрын
Cause it’s full of smelly tims 🤮🤮🤮🤮 simple
@DanXray-ww1hs
@DanXray-ww1hs 6 ай бұрын
Greenock full of huns mate
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