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The real tier list we need is the Weird Al parody tier list.

Lagwagon needs to be higher, like A Tier. Even though they are commercially not that succesfull they have a great legacy and are very influential. Starting Skateboarding back in the day, before Blink, Sum 41 and all the others blew up, there were Lagwagon Logos everywhere.

The Starting Line created the perfect pop punk song in every way with Best of Me

Relient K is criminally low. They were getting mtv plays on two of their albums

Relient K is an S tier christian band. They were the one band you could reliably assume that everyone would like, and they got mainstream radio play which only POD had done before (other than KROQ, which we didn't have on the east coast

No way is Relient K D tier ha....they are a fantastic band and great song writers (regardless of christian labels or not). Listen to Mmmhmm or Forget and Not Slow Down 🙌

Man that Relient K rating hurt me to my core. Two Lefts Don’t Make a Right, But Three Do and Mmhmm are exceptional albums.

Relient k is easily b tier no matter what

“Justice for Mest?” How bout justice for Relient K? Extremely underrated. Brilliant song writers and funny too. Never took themselves too seriously.

Now a video on Less Than Jake is in order.

I love that you gave Yellowcard recognition they deserve. They were never as big as other big names in pop-punk but they got a lot of great songs to listen to in their catalogue. Their last three albums are not as good as 2001-2007 ones though, but Paper Walls and One For The Kids are solid.

ADTR. The band on all metalcore, easycore, and pop punk videos Finn makes. Fuckin love em

Please listen to all of Relient K's albums. Underrated. Very talented group. I found their cassette taped to a port a potty at a festival in 99. Never stopped being a fan since then. Seeing them live next month! Btw I loved your interview with Sonny from POD!

I love when Finn gets all fired up and starts yelling about something nostalgic. Definitely my favorite parts of his videos. Also, dang I haven’t thought about punk rock princess in forever and that was awesome

I love your list of groups that you ranked. Several of them were the bands that got me into punk rock, when I was in college.

Home Grown behind the scenes of the "You're Not Alone" music video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZ6bpaRoqbibZH0.html

I both love Rufio and Mest back in the day.

I was super into FTSK for their first 2 albums. They did a signing right outside the Hollister I worked at my senior year, and I didn't have anything for them to sign, so I just ran up to the front of the line and high fived a few of them on my way to work. Felt pretty good about it.

Drank too much wine tonight so here are my views: "Homesick" is also a brilliantly named album because the nostalgia we all feel now is built into the title. Could still probably sing 90% of the lyrics to any given song on that record. IMO FYS is A tier or... Dare I say... because they basically popularized easycore. That isn't to say that we should downplay ADTR by any means. FYS's most recent album is actually really good and has had some decent reception as well... but you do you, boo. I love your opinions either way. Mest....They kinda made a nu-pop-punk song haha. I'm ngl tho that Cadillac chorus is a guilty pleasure for me. "Wut in the the california white boy trailer park suburbia tarnation is that?!?" TSL was what All Time Low was going for. Idgaf. Guttermouth is somehow ABSOLUTELY simultaneously S and F tier. Like the horseshoe theory of talent, they clearly stand on the cusp with one foot in each questionable ranking metric. Mark is a once in a generation phenomenon that nobody knew they ever wanted and actually... yeah nobody really does... However, then after hearing Guttermouth, you realize you still didn't want him, but like a drug he trolololed himself back into your system because you know you simply just can't live without these extreme levels of satire and irony, yet you still wanna die when you hear his ass haha. How you doing these day's bro? Loving the twitch highlights.

It would be cool if he talked about zebrahead they're one of my favorite bands of all time

my personal favorite Mest song is "Drawing Board" that shit slaps respect for the Less Than Jake love. my favorite is "Motown Never Sounded So Good"

Five score and seven years ago by relient k had commercial success. Need to bump them up a few tiers there Finn.

Disappointed the only band you didn’t play music from was Relient K. Mmhmm is a masterpiece of an album.

FYS latest album is fucking amazing. For me I feel they’re mostly consistent and they know how to write a riff, good musicians

Hit the lights skip school, start fights holds a special place in my heart

Thank you for giving The Starting Line the respect they deserve. I was glad to see so many Drive Thru bands make the list. Your mest rant had me dying 😂😂

I think almost everything four year strong has done is amazing, their musicianship, their catchiness and their way to remain the same while trying some new stuff keeps me hooked, could be one of my top 10 favorite bands easily, i recognize they're not too influential, but having a really strong album in 2019 (o is it 2020? Not sure) makes them at least B tier for me

Knuckle puck on d tier??? Finn how dare you

Man I came here expecting to hate I was wrong you nailed it crazy respect for you today man

You should so a whole video on drive thru records. They were everything to me! Haha great label

LTJ is killing ALL those bands. Talk about a STRONG discography- they got it and they’re STILL putting out quality shit. It also doesn’t hurt that they’re some of the NICEST guys in the game. S TIER!

I take comfort knowing that high-school me would have had a finn-approved ipod

Love your content!

Lights and Sounds is so underrated by the scene. It's SUCH a good song

Holy shit The Starting Line just unlocked some core memories

Aside from In Some Way Shape or Form everything by Four Year Strong slaps. Fight me.

lol enjoyed this one more than I’d like to admit. Also, reliant K needs to be moved up a rung.

Been waiting for this!

OMG and after LTJ you go right into SoCo... Drunk Girl was the last dance at my wedding. I still love everything Andrew McMahon has ever done, just saw him play about a month ago. Damn right he is talented AF.

Thank you for adding SoCo!

I hope there is a part 4? Where is freaking Green Day, the God's of Pop Punk! And how about bands like Sugarcult & Zebrahead?

Saw Mest back in 2004 as a headliner to a tour that Fall Our Boy was supporting. Mest was awesome!

The only thing that bothered me, when you played homegrown you didn't play their Kings of Pop album..... close to a top 10-15 pop punk album. Great list

Finn I feel like we would have been friends in another life. I absolutely love Mest, Yellowcard and many of the other ones you’ve mentioned. Thank you for this series. Please keep these videos going.

Did I miss something or has Finn really not included The Wonder Years for 3 parts straight?

I need a B-Tier tour to happen!

I've been on a pop punk kick lately. Maybe it's the pandemic getting to me and my brain wanting to reminisce my teen years when I discovered ADTR and TSSF, but I'm now realising there are some great releases beyond those two bands. I think those were my gateway drug into the pop punk scene. Also, I stopped giving a shit about what other people think of my music taste and vice versa years ago lmao. Anyway, you rule, Finn. Keep kicking ass out there!

Yes that starting line album is still in rotation when I'm feeling emo

That B Tier list is really good. I still listen to both Something Corporate albums pretty regularly. Great and catchy songs. Andrew McMahon is a beast songwriter. I went back and gave The Starting Line's Direction album a listen about a year back and it really grew on me. I did not care for it about a decade ago. Would for sure say Best of Me would be in the top 5 pop punk songs of the 2000's if there were a list of songs everyone knew and loved.

Ten songs i think may raise your opinion of Four Year strong a bit, happy listening! 1. "Wasting Time (Eternal Summer)" 2. "It Must Really Suck to Be Four Year Strong Right Now" 3. “I’m a big bright shining star” 4. “Go Down in History" 5. Gravity 6. “Find my way back” 7. Stuck in the middle 8. “Heaven wasn’t built to hold me” 9. “Falling on you” 10. “Bada Bing! Wit' a Pipe!"

GutterMouth IS an S tier band and Musical Monkey absolutely could not be made today.

nice to see Mest get some love. When i first started driving my own car, i'd listen to em all the time on the way to school. good shit.

DUERST THE WUERST DUEEST THE WUERST DUERST THE WUERST

4YS is an A Tier Band! Love me some 4 beards strong! Great content Finn! Keep it up!

My best friend all through junior high and high school was Vietnamese. It means something.

I’m out here about to be a punisher for the Starting Line’s later albums. Based on a True Story and Directions are fucking phenomenal albums. Their first album is a classic, but damn those later albums just blow it out of the water for me. Also, don’t @ me but Konstantine is by far Something Corporate’s best song.

Hey Finn, speaking of pop-punk, I know you already talked about some of them, but could you do a whole video about those Tiktok stars turned rockstars ? (like Sueco, Jeris Johnson, Jxdn, Lilhuddy, Gayle, etc..) I would personally be very interested to hear your take on it

I agree with you about LTJ being more important than Goldfinger. Less Than Jake was much better known among my peers than Goldfinger. It's probably regional. Is there something wrong with me that I like Guttermouth?

Underdog Alma Mater is legit a banger of an album. One of my favorites of the past 20 years. Infectiously catchy shit with some really cool ideas (like having 3 vocalists haha). It really sucks that all their stuff after that was just extremely meh. I've heard rumors of them possibly working on some new stuff, so that could be interesting.

Bruh!?! Where’s the Suicide Machines at? No Face to Face?!!?! Wtf

Love the content pop punk is my youth

Put Yellowcard in the A is very acceptable. I would personally put them in the S tier. I really low Yellowcard. They're in my top 3 for pop punk bands of all time and Ocean Avenue is in my top 3 for pop punk albums of all time!

The starting line was honestly way ahead of their time. They had a touch of 2009 mallcore emo to their sound, years before the craze (give em some influence points for acoustic guitars and rocking swoopy hair in the times of high socks and dickies shorts)

Finn i have to ask. What do you consider Cooheed and Cambria to be? Are they Metal Core or Pop Punk? Or just them?

Ever heard of Drivethrujedi? We were doing easycore back in 2003. We never went anywhere though and I became a promoter after.

The dudes in FIGHT FAIR are so cool. We hung out in Jax those dude are obsessed with having fun lol

i need another one already

Fun list..Relient K, Alkaline Trio, and Starting Line should all move up a tier.

Oh man, I remember I wrote a fanfic based off of Crossroads by FTSK back in the day. Good times.

We need a Less Than Jake history video on your other channel that would be sick!

Thanks for reminding me how much I was into Forever the Sickest Kids back in the day. They should have been as big as New Found Glory and A Day to Remember. Sad they didn’t.

My first ever show at 12 was Good Charlotte, Mest, and Goldfinger. Twas 🔥

3:23 "we found the Lamb of God fan" Hahahhahaa

“Before consent was really a thing” 🤣🤣🤣

Glad to hear the Less Than Jake praise

The Starling Line's 3rd album(Direction) is FANTASTIC.

Is it really a Finn Mckenty tier list if ADTR isn’t in the S tier?

Yellowcard played my grad night at disney world in 2005 lol. I wonder how much a gig like that pays?

Homesick was hands down my crossover album into metalcore. It all changed after that. S-Tier is what ADTR deserve

Thanks for all the new artists you are inevitably getitng me into sampling mate!

Homegrown really found their stride in act your age.

Man. Yellowcard’s final record was fantastic.

Rufio's Perhaps I suppose is as influential as it can get man

Solid rankings but dang, Relient K on D tier?? I can't argue that much tho cuz I'd give them a C lol

I have to say the last FYS record (Brain pain) was amazing!

such a fun video! so many feels. thanks finn!

Just waiting for the but rock tier list! The magnum opus, Finn’s fellowship of the ring!

SO when you said you wanted to play your fav Yellowcard song I got excited for a half second, and then sad realizing YOUR favorite is likely not MY favorite. And just then it cut to an un-skipable commercial (because OF COURSE it w did 🙄). Yadayadayada show came back on and IT WAS MY FAVORITE ONE AND NOW AS YOU CAN SEE IM BACK TO VERY EXCITED…!

We need a video on the importance of Less Than Jake on the PRMBA channel that you eluded to. I get shit for liking LTJ still today but they're stuff is better than people give credit for.

Everything Andrew McMahon touches is pure gold! Leaving through the window is a masterpiece from start to finish (especially considering they were like 19 when it came out). My favorite song from it is I woke up in a car.

Finn please talk about Belmont and A Wilhelm Scream!

Couldn't agree more on Less Than Jake. Their drummer, Vinnie, helped give us Fueled by Ramen. And they always put on fun shows. One of my favorites was when they played with The Queers and Fall Out Boy on the same bill. FOB played first, and I remember thinking they sucked. A few months later they were mega stars.

I woke up in a car - Something Corporate

Good to see you remembering SoCal local boys Mest. What's the dillio, eh?

“You can’t fuck with GutterMouth” 😅😂🤣

Would you consider street light Manifesto pop punk or straight up ska?

Great video.Thanks for the great content.Hope to see more great content in 2022.

The starting line is fuckin awesome! I saw them live when I was 18 killer show!

I dont know if there is a part 4 comming but no The Ataris reaaaally?? 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤣