Pop Radio Vocal Stacking

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Want that radio, stacked, pop, sheen, vocal sound. Here you go...
Like the sound or not... it's been here for many years and isn't changing any time soon. Even if I prefer more natural vocals it's been mandatory that I understand this vocal sound and what it takes to get it in order to create modern pop, country, and even rock music.
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@seanemmettfullerton Жыл бұрын

Herr Doktor Professor :) You are a pure inspiration, bud! Thank you!!! Ha! and I finally broke down and bought a copy of Vocalign Project and have joined the modern world of vocal editing :)

@WizardOfArc 2 жыл бұрын

Story teller in the middle! 😁

@marcelbr815 2 жыл бұрын

I always get stunned how much room reverberation there is in the surgery room vs. how neutral the mixing room sounds.🤣

@BreyerWhite 2 жыл бұрын

camera audio vs the sm7 i would guess.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the audio doesn't match the video image when I dry the O.R. audio up. I've tried it and it feels better with the ambience of the O.R. left in.

@marcelbr815 2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff No worries! It’s part of the charm in the program!

@aliiqtidarelahi5611 2 жыл бұрын

You are genius men

@russisaac813 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous tips again Dr Bob. My own favourites were those Def Leppard tips, did amazing things to my mixes. Many thanks.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Russ!

@guillermodelnoche 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent technique! You are a wealth of tricks and experience!

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Guillermo!

@SJR_Media_Group Жыл бұрын

Dr Bob... you never fail to amaze me with your knowledge and techniques. This is similar to old school double tracking where singer records same portion in different tracks. Later, they are stacked to give depth and color to vocals. I have seen it used where singer records in different keys and basically is harmonizing with themselves. It's important to have separate tracks by same singer. It's impossible for singer to record exactly the same way on each track. That little bit of difference gives the combined vocals a much bigger sound. Some try and cheat by just copying same vocal track 4 times then offsetting a bit to mimic actual multiple vocals.

@BobbyHuff Жыл бұрын

Thanks Steven!

@JaviBello 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bob! Another great tip.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jav!

@SmokinFoolz 2 жыл бұрын

I saw OHMBOYZ in there. My fav tool for out of this world, "jumping through a portal" type stuff.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome plugin!

@LilView 2 жыл бұрын

One of your best tutorials in a while

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lil!

@michaeltablet8577 2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome!

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael!

@DThompson55 2 жыл бұрын

so good

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan!

@Lamiere 2 жыл бұрын

Damn that was a great mix

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lamiere!

@tisbonus 2 жыл бұрын

I ran into a problem and before I could search, your vid pops up! YT reading my mind. Thanks once again Dr. Bob, you never disappoint! Solved the issue btw excellent advice about stereo image.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

We have a mind reading algorithm here at Music Surgery….we know what you’re thinking at all times Tisbonus…..😀

@tisbonus 2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyHuff Evidently, I need to close the drapes😜😂

@artwhite5738 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks broo

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Art!

@asawiggins 2 жыл бұрын

Gold!

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend!

@billribas 2 жыл бұрын

Way cool as always doc. I wish, that for an idiot like me, you had a clip of the vocals not aligned and with effects, just so I could hear the comparison. I get the laser sharp vocals for pop music. Just would have liked to hear the unaligned to compare. You are a music Saint, sir, thanks again.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill. The only vocals that are all aligned are when I play the full mix towards the end.

@achmadmiftah2758 2 жыл бұрын

work

@mrmorpheus9707 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid as usual.... question tho, how did you copy plugins to another track

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

In Cubase on the mixer you can copy entire channels and paste them to other channels so they have the same plugins, eq, and channel settings. Do you use Cubase?

@davidhayman9330 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doc...very helpful...just wondering when you would opt for this method over the method you showed on a previous vid using waves doubler (and +-3, +-6, +-9, .+-12cents shifts) to produce the doubles..

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

I tend to do the Waves Dbl thing on just lead vocals that aren’t stacked up. It’s a very different sound and won’t give up the power of stacked vocals. Good question.

@ST-fl5fy 2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying to find that waves doubler video. Is there a link please?

@davidhayman9330 2 жыл бұрын

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@deadmaydie 2 жыл бұрын

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@ianmcallister1170 2 жыл бұрын

So!

@TheeRocker 2 жыл бұрын

HEy DOc,, sounds like the song was just getting ready to rock, not pop, to me, lol... probably my imagination running amok lol.

@joaquinesteban8176 2 жыл бұрын

+REP

@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Bobby, as always. Question, do you find as many bad artifacts when using VocAlign as I do? I've tried it on a good handful of sessions and was always really disappointed at what it did to the audio. It left me with quite artificial stretching and mostly unusable tracks. Perhaps in this case the audio was already heavily AutoTuned and therefore it didn't matter as much, because yours sounds fantastic. Just curious if I should give it another try.

@augustauseil 2 жыл бұрын

Not Bobby, but I've also found Vocalign more trouble than it's worth. I don't mind timing vocals by hand for a better result and more control.

@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын

@@augustauseil Thanks for letting me know. I realize it takes a lot longer but my results were much better by hand as well.

@augustauseil 2 жыл бұрын

@@SteveOuimette Agreed. Maybe there is a better alternative? But a few freelance gigs I got were doing Audiobooks and that was a great bootcamp for vocal editing! Hahahaha

@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын

@@augustauseil I'll bet It was! I do forensic re-records/covers for video games and classic artists when they want to re-record and own their catalog masters so I'm pretty used to doing it by hand but if a tool works without artifacts, I'm all in!

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, I've had fantastic luck with it with very few artifacts. On the rare occasion there is an artifact Ill just fix that portion by hand.

@caseyhayes2004 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!! I see you don’t use RVox anymore on your vocal tracks. Sound super clean and clear!! I’m thinking you chose MV2 instead for better squash after 1176? Also I couldn’t hear any artifacts on the align plug in like some have claimed. Really high quality video Dr. Bob! Gonna try this on my choruses. Never thought to slightly pan the vocal doubles slightly. Makes sense as you’ve spoken before about placing delay and verb returns at the -10 and +10 pan positions since that area is less used than the other pan real estate. Thanks for awesome info!!

@ST-fl5fy 2 жыл бұрын

I was curious about the MV2 also. Looked it up and don’t quite understand it.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Casey. I still love the Rvox and bounce back and forth between it and the MV2. They are both fantastic and I usually just go by what feels the best on a certain singer.

@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын

Think of it as a compressor and a limiter.