Could Baby Reindeer's Real Life Martha ACTUALLY WIN DEFAMATION CASE Against Netflix!? LAWYER REACTS

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Could Baby Reindeer's Real Life Martha ACTUALLY WIN DEFAMATION CASE Against Netflix!? LAWYER REACTS
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Excerpt from Business Insider
The woman outed as the alleged 'Baby Reindeer' stalker said she felt 'used' in Piers Morgan interview, where he asked her if she loves Richard Gadd
A woman who was outed by "Baby Reindeer" fans as the alleged stalker of the true crime drama's creator and lead actor said she felt "used" by Piers Morgan in an interview about the Netflix series.
"Baby Reindeer" tells a fictionalized version of creator Richard Gadd's experiences with stalking, and has become a worldwide phenomenon since its release in April. That month, an unnamed woman who was outed on social media as "the real Martha Scott" told the Daily Mail she was considering taking legal action against Gadd and Netflix for the harassment she has faced as a result of viewers trying to track her down.
On Wednesday, Morgan revealed he had interviewed Fiona Harvey, believed to be the woman first interviewed by the Daily Mail. The interview will be released Thursday at 3pm ET on Morgan's KZfaq channel, Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Excerpt from The Independent
Real-life Martha Scott from Baby Reindeer sits down for tell-all Piers Morgan interview
The show has already sparked a backlash among viewers
The woman who allegedly inspired Richard Gadd’s hit Netflix series Baby Reindeer will give her first TV interview this Thursday (9 May).
In the series, comedian Richard Gadd plays a fictionalised version of himself who gets stalked by a lonely and mentally ill woman called Martha, whom he meets while working at a pub.
Following the series’ success curious fans have tried to discover the inspirations behind the show, which members of the cast have vehemently discouraged.
Scottish lawyer Fiona Harvey, 58, who has been labelled the ‘real Martha’ has received death threats from Baby Reindeer viewers and will speak on Piers Morgan Uncensored to “set the record straight after being unmasked by fans”.
Excerpt from The Sun
‘STALKER’ UNMASKED ‘I’m very attractive and I’m a lawyer’, says ‘real Baby Reindeer stalker’ Fiona Harvey as she threatens Netflix
THE WOMAN thought to be the real-life stalker from Netflix smash Baby Reindeer is threatening to sue Netflix.
The gritty real-life drama was inspired by the ordeal suffered by Scots creator and leading man Richard Gadd, 34.
The harrowing tale follows barman Donny Dunn as his life falls apart at the hands of an obsessive stalker - played by Jessica Gunning, 38, - after he offers her a cup of tea in a London bar.
The deranged Baby Reindeer maniac bombarded the comic with more than 41,000 emails, 744 tweets, 100 pages of letters and 350 hours of voicemails over a four year reign of terror
Gadd claimed he went to great lengths to conceal the identity of the woman who stalked him in real life and has begged fans not to search for her.
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@tigeygirl 2 ай бұрын

She’s not going to sue because it’s all true. She really needs mental health help. She outed herself.

@stephiegetsit 2 ай бұрын

I don't think it is all true. He squirms alot when asked about it. And he picked a woman to look exactly like her to make her identity unfindable. No.

@ge2168 2 ай бұрын

Well, is it really all true. No evidence can be found that she is a convicted stalker.

@Treeangel45 2 ай бұрын

@@mari97216her supposed nephew right? We shall see!!!

@evieblessed 2 ай бұрын

She can sue Netflix, or attempt to, for not protecting her identity - to an extent it doesn't matter if the allegations made are true or not, they had a duty of care, they do to anyone portrayed in 'fact based' programmes.

@babs66 2 ай бұрын

For what condition exactly? He's the one who took lots of drugs and has made lots of money. She's a professional person. If you know anything about npd for example they take something with a grain of truth and twist and exadurate it. The grain I'm referring to is the mp part of the story. She doesn't strike me as being unwell in any way.

@jennyj0007 2 ай бұрын

For someone who didn't watch the show she sure knew a lot of things that were in the show.

@ceriliz289 2 ай бұрын

That's what I thought

@robertburgess3767 2 ай бұрын

That's because all her lawyer freinds, media outlets,piers morgans staff and her freinds daughters were telling her everything 😂😂

@sionnach3104 2 ай бұрын

She had an intimate knowledge of the show. She definitely watched it!

@CJ-ft9yo 2 ай бұрын

@@sionnach3104and lived it !

@tigeygirl 2 ай бұрын

She’s probably stalking Piers as we speak.

@mikekaraoke 2 ай бұрын

👩‍🦱👀👀👀👀👀 Yea I could see that lol

@EnhleNg 2 ай бұрын

😭😭😭

@divinemagicwithourownspani2865 2 ай бұрын

Hope so as he’s vile . She already looked up his age lol 😂

@revive_memes275 2 ай бұрын

Right?!? Onto the next one. I do think Piers would hang her curtains, though.

@Bailemos888 2 ай бұрын

hahahah Yeah

@kyuubisgirl3232 2 ай бұрын

Netflix couldn’t delete her old tweets for her. I don’t think she’ll win if she goes through with it.

@generaljo78 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree and I’m not convinced that she couldn’t access the account given a number appear to have been deleted.

@wearequickflix 2 ай бұрын

No. They couldn't. But they COULD have made different tweets up.And that is where she can argue that her privacy was breached.

@Kaytemplerose 2 ай бұрын

@@wearequickflix Finally, someone with common sense!

@evieblessed 2 ай бұрын

@@wearequickflix , yup, and they could have made her a slim, blonde Irish doctor, not an overweight, brunette Scottish woman with an undergrad in law. Duty of care...nah. Identity not protected at all.

@wearequickflix 2 ай бұрын

@@evieblessed we think Netflix could be ripped apart for this.

@TheShmoo123 2 ай бұрын

So she’s suing for outing herself 🤦🏽‍♀️

@lizgaspari-gasparinutrition 2 ай бұрын

I guess 🫣

@sickens-me 2 ай бұрын

Basically.

@ceriliz289 2 ай бұрын

Exactly, but she HASN'T seen it

@yourfuturewaifu9061 2 ай бұрын

That was my impression.

@pwallace5359 2 ай бұрын

@@ceriliz289 It’s funny how she knew all about it though. 😂 I bet she watched it five times.

@desres2281 2 ай бұрын

She would be very unwise to sue, opens a whole can of worms! 🤨

@LyndaHill 2 ай бұрын

She'd be in for a world of pain.

@tasnimtrisha2 2 ай бұрын

And I'm here just for the drama 😅😅😂

@Beard.Lawyer 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for having me on! 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

@Blooderfly17 2 ай бұрын

Dude took time out of his vacation for us, thank you for coming on the show man ❤❤❤

@CaineBoaden 2 ай бұрын

I’m sure Netflix have had several legal professionals look at this prior to moving forward in this. She’s delusional.

@jessl6239 2 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@wattsonthetube 2 ай бұрын

I can't help but imagine that maybe Richard Gadd wrote the show because the police didn't do anything about it. Maybe in some way, him being picked up by Netflix could allow the full story to come out and he could get some closure in real life as well. He might have embellished some of it, but if it's going to trial then he might also have just caused his "stalker" to out herself. I'd hate to think that in order to get any judiciary to look at a case like this that someone would have to write a whole drama about it though.

@jaiadixon7918 2 ай бұрын

Closure or revenge?

@wattsonthetube 2 ай бұрын

@@jaiadixon7918 Sometimes, for some people they can be the same thing.

@sionnach3104 2 ай бұрын

@@jaiadixon7918 He’s a victim of a stalker & his writing was therapy which grew into a one-man show and then a play. Just me cause he’s a man doesn’t mean he didn’t suffer trauma, as you’d realise if you ever had an obsessive stalker tracking you.

@LyndaHill 2 ай бұрын

@jaiadixon7918 I'd be up for the revenge part any day when it comes to the level of stalking, intimidation, threats, assault etc for some three years that he experienced. As they say, there's no revenge like success and this couldn't be any bigger of a success. Bravo, I reckon.

@stefaniejanejones87 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree 💯

@hallejohn7063 2 ай бұрын

& when she loses she’ll start harassing the attorney who was dumb enough to take her case.

@sickens-me 2 ай бұрын

Keep in mind...her words, "they met maybe 3 or 4 times....maybe 5 or 6 times"...."we were all friends". Who tf is "we".

@mari97216 2 ай бұрын

Started off with 2-3 times.

@sickens-me 2 ай бұрын

Right. 🤣

@karenm8239 2 ай бұрын

Erm, the we is a Scottish thing. I do it. My family says it, people I know say it. And she's a lawyer - may have means there is no legal comeback and she cannot be said to be lying

@Roseenmarie 2 ай бұрын

who is 'we' indeed. I think when she was saying we she was doing it to make it look like she has friends, that she isn't on her own.

@Roseenmarie 2 ай бұрын

@@karenm8239wee in Scotland means small, like 'look at that wee dog'

@ScotVenus 2 ай бұрын

She’s not a lawyer. She has a degree, but didn’t work in law. In uk legal, you have to gain experience in the field to BE considered a lawyer.

@sionnach3104 2 ай бұрын

It used to be called. ‘Articles’ She mentioned she was an intern and was headhunted (?) by the woman who terminated her employment after a few days & later filed an interim injunction against her. I doubt whether she’s ever held down a “proper job” although she likes to say this of Richard Gadd. 😂

@wearequickflix 2 ай бұрын

@@sionnach3104 but here’s the thing: Court cases are a matter of public record in the UK and there is no record of her being taken to court. If there was any court case against her (criminal or civil, injunction or interdict) there would be a record of it.

@bobsmith5441 2 ай бұрын

@@wearequickflix The conviction possibly could be spent.

@threesixnine369six 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@wearequickflix maybe the public records are in fact publicly available but they’re only viewable on request and must be released by the courts? Other clauses might apply under the Freedom of Information Act and the Human Rights Act. Has anyone looked into it seriously? I’m just asking, because all I’m seeing is tabloid, lifestyle and mainstream news, with not much clarity on the criminal record matter. And on the internet anyone can say anything.

@wearequickflix 2 ай бұрын

@@threesixnine369six no they are listed publicly on court websites.

@James_Bowie 2 ай бұрын

Harvey out to go ahead and sue. That way we'll learn all about her life. Not sure she'll enjoy being outed as a pathological liar.

@CaroleEvans93436 2 ай бұрын

According to the end credits on Netflix : 'This program is based on true events however, certain characters, names, incidents, locations and dialogue have been fictionalised for dramatic purposes'

@shanny4306 2 ай бұрын

Yes, Why don’t people read it ? So easy to check !

@TheAlyxson 2 ай бұрын

It's listed on the last episode in with the credits with 1 min and 32 seconds left to go.

@CaroleEvans93436 2 ай бұрын

@@TheAlyxson It's at the end of every episode

@stefaniejanejones87 2 ай бұрын

A shame Iman was so strident in making her points. Put everyone off, but she was quite correct about the disclaimer at the end. If only Netflix had simply said 'based on a true story', not 'this is a true story', there probably wouldn't be all this hullabaloo.

@avisco01 2 ай бұрын

@@stefaniejanejones87 It’s frustrating because while she was obnoxious and disrespectful, she actually was 100% correct. She just kept saying it was fictionalized but did not reference the end credits which would have made her argument. The disclaimer is very cut and dry.

@Bailemos888 2 ай бұрын

I hope she sues and doesnt get a penny. CAnt stand psycho stalkers, they are dangerous.

@The_Red_Pill__ 2 ай бұрын

Stalkers should not receive any encouragement.

@SusanaXpeace2u 2 ай бұрын

all her interview achieved was to confirm that she's still crazy. Imagine if she'd gone on to Piers show and said, ''i wasn't mentally well back then. I 'm so embarrassed now. I'm so sorry I harassed Richard. But I feel a lot clearer now. I've had a therapy since then, I've been in a psychiatric hospital I take medication now''. EVEN IF SHE'D BEEN BULLSHITTING AND WAS STILL SECRETLY 100% WHACADOODLE, everybody would feel bad and back away drawning a line between ''back then'' and the 'here and now''.

@8bitrocketstudios 2 ай бұрын

She outed herself. A lawsuit could just prove she's a psycho in a court of law.

@babs66 2 ай бұрын

It could prove he lied also. How do you know he's not a narc or bipolar and believes his own delusions. He took loads of drugs whereas she's a lawyer.

@MumfordElectric 2 ай бұрын

@@babs66ok Fiona stop making accounts to post stuff like this

@evjimz8460 2 ай бұрын

@@MumfordElectric 😂😂😂😂 has to be!!!

@babs66 2 ай бұрын

@MumfordElectric actually I'm a mental health worker in Yorkshire and I have an ordinary degree too; which is just a pass no grade. I'm also her age nearly and autistic which I think she could be.

@lesleypanton8204 2 ай бұрын

@babs66 “I have an ordinary degree, not top of the class or anything” 🤣🤣🤣

@sherylmayo1 2 ай бұрын

She was better to say nothing Even if people knew who she was they weren’t for sure until she confirmed it

@tasnimtrisha2 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Also they weren't sure what kind of person she was but she outed herself and now everyone can easily say she is exactly like Martha. Her mannerism and narcissistic behaviour and everything. She is potentially creating more chaos around herself. More than what she probably can handle.

@IbnTufayl1 2 ай бұрын

Hmmmm, I don't know. Gadd claimed that she would barely recognize herself in the show and she's pretty recognizable. I would suspect she has a case and won't have trouble finding someone to represent her.

@harryhill8543 2 ай бұрын

I used to work in mental health and can say that its classic personality behaviour to use legal actions or company bullying policies etc to attack others and usually without merit. Its just another way of being aggressive towards others.

@karenm8239 2 ай бұрын

She's a lawyer. So it's actually also a legal thing. If you listen, she uses I may have.

@shethingsd 2 ай бұрын

Me too. I watched the Piers interview and said, "wow, her behaviour screams personality disorder." Then I searched for stalking and mental health diagnosis and found personality disorders are the diagnosis associated with stalking. I didn't feel the Martha character necessarily showed as much personality disorder behaviours. The Martha character was also much more sympathetic. Fiona came across as mean and dangerous. When I read about how she behaved with the family of the lawyer she was hired by on a trial basis before being fired after two days who then stalked her family and other employees, it was terrifying. I had a couple of clients who stalked me that were borderline and of course we take this risk as therapists and know how to lessen the results and also how to help prevent them from doing it to others.

@shethingsd 2 ай бұрын

@@karenm8239it's definitely a terrible combination. People with personality disorders are often quite intelligent and use their knowledge to manipulate others.

@Kaytemplerose 2 ай бұрын

Personality behaviour?

@harryhill8543 2 ай бұрын

@@Kaytemplerose polite way of discussing personality disorder behaviours...

@lozk8982 2 ай бұрын

She outed herself so can't see it going her way if she had gone to the police or went for legal advice maybe she would of had a chance. Now she's been on telly giving interviews and in the paper she hasn't a leg to stand on

@JayDeeChannel 2 ай бұрын

It’s outrageous that Netflix can make these allegations. I’d sue if they weren’t true.

@lisaboo5806 2 ай бұрын

She definitely needs help 🙏💕

@sonia.jarrett 2 ай бұрын

I must admit I must have been the only person on the planet who had never heard of this until I watched Piers Morgan a few nights ago, wow since I watched it, both of them are now cropping up on absolutely everything on every channel, so I'll definitely be watching now xxx

@gerry5134 2 ай бұрын

You notice that Richard Gadd has been very quiet about this case !? Also i agree with the interviewee that Fiona was very foolish to go on Piers Morgan show unless maybe she needed some money

@jaiadixon7918 2 ай бұрын

They made the character so alike to the real person ,they didn’t have to make her do identifiable down to accent,hair and shape,if it’s a drama they could have changed that slightly for the story to protect her more ,it’s not so much the internet-I’m sure a solicitor working for her could argue that was something they could have done to protect,so they didn’t do everything and they could have ,also said based on true events,another grey area a solicitor could argue I’m sure ?

@sionnach3104 2 ай бұрын

Hey, don’t insult Fiona who thinks she looks nothing like Martha!

@Livelafflove24 2 ай бұрын

You handled yourself so well on Piers show! Well done!! That was hard to watch!!

@evjimz8460 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@melaniejones9238 2 ай бұрын

The problem to this is, they can't find any evidence so far that she had even been arrested for stalking! And the fact that he had admitted he has mental health issues too ?

@heathercarvalho4091 2 ай бұрын

There was a person on Facebook stating he was her nephew and she was arrested. Kyle Muir I believe was his name.

@JenniB123 2 ай бұрын

I think Muir was part of her original surname, so name sounds legit.

@jennyj0007 2 ай бұрын

I believe Richard said he had a restraining order in place. So probably that's why people can't find much.

@sionnach3104 2 ай бұрын

I think it’s much harder for people to check out previous convictions of someone in the U.K. but that could have been dramatic licence - and Netflix carried the usual disclaimer.

@IbnTufayl1 2 ай бұрын

Why would you write a show about someone you were terrified of though? Wouldn't you be scared that that would put you on their radar again? @@jennyj0007

@sarai1519rios 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 I knew I said it in the chat, that she doesn't have a case. She contradicts everything, plus if we argue that it's Netflix fault how about if people found her through public records was she going to sue the public records office?

@ElanaVital83 2 ай бұрын

She broke. 😂 If Depp couldn't win against the Sun, how she gonna win against Netflix?

@patriciamckenna3464 2 ай бұрын

But Depp eventually won lol

@ElanaVital83 2 ай бұрын

@patriciamckenna3464 After spending 30 million dollars he won against Amber Heard. Does Fiona have 30 million dollars? You think she can afford Camilla Vasquez? 🤭

@patriciamckenna3464 2 ай бұрын

@@ElanaVital83 She doesn’t need Camilla, but Netflix need to be able to prove that everything they said was ‘True’ is indeed ‘True’ as they’ve already claimed they have proof 🤷‍♀️

@evieblessed 2 ай бұрын

'Every reasonable precaution to conceal identity....' by portraying an overweight, short, brunette, Scottish undergrad at law as an overweight, short, brunette, Scottish undergrad at law. Same age (as she would have been at time set). Using exact messages that were easily searchable and referencing her previous stalking case (which never went to trial I believe), also searchable. I'm no lawyer but I think she has a case. And I'm not excusing her stalking behaviour either, but it's irrelevant to whether her privacy has been compromised.

@benlap1977 2 ай бұрын

"I feel sorry for this woman". I don't.

@kells4152 2 ай бұрын

They didn't say "based on a true story" they said this "IS a TRUE STORY"!

@samanthawhang7498 2 ай бұрын

But at the end it says some situations, events, characters were fictionalized.

@claresmith9261 2 ай бұрын

@@samanthawhang7498but then it’s not a true story

@danetorode9197 2 ай бұрын

@@claresmith9261 A story is a story,... not a factual telling.

@annknows802 2 ай бұрын

It's not a documentary. Have you seen the beginning of every Fargo show?

@TT_09 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been watching biopics, Lifetime movies, all based on real human stories. Never once in my adult life have I had the expectation that artistic embellishment and dramatization didn’t occur.

@sharfalor4244 2 ай бұрын

She doesn't have funds for a case like this against a team of Netflix lawyers. If you are claiming certain benefits you can apply for legal aid in UK but it absolutely does NOT cover things like defamation/slander/libel. The only way she could fund this is if a publicity hungry law firm agreed to take the case on a pro bono basis. I don't see that happening.

@karenm8239 2 ай бұрын

She's a lawyer. She doesn't need legal aid. She could defend herself if she wanted to.

@sharfalor4244 2 ай бұрын

@@karenm8239 except she's claiming someone else is doing it for her. After her interview I doubt she'll get anywhere trying to represent herself.

@suzeskippen7302 2 ай бұрын

I don't know if anyone noticed, but in the interview with Piers Morgan, she stated 'I think he always wanted this to come out' - if there was no 'this' - why did she say it?

@mysticjen379 2 ай бұрын

They called the character Martha Scott, gave her a Scottish accent and a similar build to her. What was wrong with Smith or Jones?!

@TheIndigoSystem 2 ай бұрын

Martha Jones is a character in Doctor Who lol who changed her name to Smith after marrying Mickey Smith but maybe Johnson lol

@donnamcgrath_Lawyers_Coach 2 ай бұрын

I dont think you guys understand the law or the facts. Beard Lawyer has the law wrong. The test is whether the person can be substanitally identifiable from the show. The fact tghat she has the same accent, looks like the character and also words have been repeated which Richard Gadd himself knows are public would suggest NF didn't do their due diligence. Also, if she had a criminal offence she would not be allow to practice law (which she is). So, its clear she does not have a criminal offence. This is a clear case of defamation and libel and I think Richard Gadd has alot of problems ahead for him.

@TheMoxin 2 ай бұрын

perfectly said, remember the book 'a million little pieces'? all sorts of people lie..

@fionamclaren8506 2 ай бұрын

@donnamcgrath_Lawyers_Coach Thank goodness for your post. The key word of course is 'identifiable.' People keep saying that a disclaimer such as: 'this is based on a true story but some events are fictionalised for dramatic purposes' gets a media company or writer off the legal hook. It does not.

@Xander102 2 ай бұрын

I feel for the lawyer who takes her on

@PoisonSnowApple 2 ай бұрын

Nah, I don’t think Netflix’s lawyers allow them to say “based on a true story” without seeing Richard gadd’s evidence

@karesage2889 2 ай бұрын

They can't find any criminal record for her 🤔

@shanny4306 2 ай бұрын

🇨🇦 at the credits at the end of the series ,it states that some of it is fictional,for drama . Check it out!

@catamia123 2 ай бұрын

This is a 10 year old “relationship” that had been in a play by Richard Gadd a few years ago. Where was the lawsuit then. This is not new news about what went down.

@yourfuturewaifu9061 2 ай бұрын

Dang, now that makes a lot of sense.

@TheIndigoSystem 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. She wants money

@emmajackson5139 2 ай бұрын

I think she's saying about it now because they picked a actress that looks and sounds familiar to her so now she's being outted for what she did compared to him just talking to a bar stool

@generaljo78 2 ай бұрын

Netflix has made an error, however, after every episode there is a disclaimer that essentially states - names, places and some scenes have been fictionalised etc etc. The question is, whether or not, it’s clear enough. I believe the crux of it is absolutely accurate other than Martha’s conviction.

@kyuubisgirl3232 2 ай бұрын

It’s based on a true story, a purposely vague phrase to say parts of it will be fictionalized. Even if people searched the quote and found it on Twitter it would have never gotten this big if she didn’t go on a tv interview and sue over it. Lol idk about Europe, but in North America lawsuits filings are public. She self reported and is playing victim.

@KateKosmo 2 ай бұрын

That wasn't there when it was 1st released was it bc I watch it all the 1st days & I don't remember that for some reason.

@generaljo78 2 ай бұрын

@@KateKosmo It’s after every episode and was always there from the outset. Was it big enough or obvious enough for everyone to catch it? Possibly not.

@jessl6239 2 ай бұрын

@@KateKosmo it was. Most people tend to skip the credits and that’s why people did not catch it. I saw the disclaimer even before the show became popular.

@The_Red_Pill__ 2 ай бұрын

I think the only error Netflix made is that they should have put “based on” in front of “a true story.” However, I think the disclaimer at the end will save them from liability.

@jochoy8681 2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! I am tired of seeing videos saying the opposite,that she has a case,Nice to see a video that is saying what most of us are thinking.

@99sparso 2 ай бұрын

3:53 the show didn’t say it was BASED on a true story. It said it IS a true story. And that’s where the lawsuit comes in. If they’d have said “based on” or “inspired by true events”, they’d 100% have gotten away with this, but they’re claiming all of it is true.

@AnimalsDressedasHumans 2 ай бұрын

A bunch of ppl jump on you if you say you have empathy for her. Just gonna say this: you cannot possibly be more offended than the victim himself, Richard Gadd, who literally spells out in the series he felt sorry for her. The show begins with saying he was worried she needed help, and ends with him in tears over a vm of her describing childhood neglect. If all you want is for her to face punishment, which she does deserve if she crossed legal boundaries, you’re not getting the point of the show.

@redjasper2443 2 ай бұрын

He said she had a police record, yet they couldn’t find any

@coralieelliott2076 2 ай бұрын

Richard did an interview and said the court scene never happened and that he never filed any charges

@Aashka_The_Mystic 2 ай бұрын

She should have changed her name on Twitter. I don't think she has a case here.

@chancemcfarland2897 2 ай бұрын

If it is not her and she is not guilty of stalking....why is she feeling so guilty and is a stalker. She can't win for defamation, libel nor slander since it is the truth and she is a crazy stalker

@Zoey505 2 ай бұрын

I dont think she has a case for defamation and libel. Frankly even if its found to be defamatory, Richard Gadd has a good chance of defenfing himself. If he can show all the evidence of stalking, harrassment and threats then he's got a good defence of justification and fair comment. Plus the show akso portrays him as troubled and the "Martha" character was pitiful and someone who needs help and care. She should have just laid low and not given the interview. She comes out badly and Richard Gadd comes out smelling of roses 🌹

@gdaymates431 2 ай бұрын

I think she does have a case, and she will get a lawyer, and they will settle out of court. A smart lawyer will definitely take this case on.

@Gezzpop 2 ай бұрын

She's obviously unwell and at fault..... but there's no way that they protected her identity. People searching the phrase 'hanging your curtains' on twitter, Is just one of the various examples of things that could have been changed to protect her anonimity

@KickinTheBucket-List 2 ай бұрын

Does she have any basis that Netflix didnt try to hide the emails, tweets and fb posts? I feel like those could've at least been reworded so they weren't searchable..

@saraha7006 2 ай бұрын

My question is how can he legally put this out in a show/series and not have her grade to this or Netflix have her agree to this a sign over the rights because legally you have to get the rights from the other person like if you write a book you can’t write a book about someone without getting them to agree. I can’t see anything has been disguised the actress has the same body shape the same accent the same job how was she protected? I’m not saying that she doesn’t have mental problems or that he wasn’t a victim but now he’s done the very thing to her that was done to him and she’s being harassed not by one person but by the public at large apparently and if he’s going to make money off this situation why wouldn’t she have that same right given it’s her life as well? Clearly there was not enough done to protect her identity.

@ReubenAStern 2 ай бұрын

Fiona: "Someone hurt you... I WANT NAMES!!" Internet sleuths: "Someone hurt you I WANT NAMES!!"

@dtbristol 2 ай бұрын

They are incorrect. The mini series explicitly states that "this is a true story". That's significantly different than being "based" on a true story. This wording gives Netflix no wiggle room should any portion be inaccurate.

@aWywardWyvern 2 ай бұрын

I believe it also states that there are dramatized/fictionalized retelling of sections which very well could cover them. It’s weird but they can claim both.

@braddo7270 2 ай бұрын

Omg is that the world's first lawyer goat? 😂

@isladurrant2015 2 ай бұрын

"Donny" is a crazy crock too.

@donnamcgrath_Lawyers_Coach 2 ай бұрын

Well in the UK the law is different. The law says that the personally cannot be easily identifiable...

@WhitsEnding 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if this whole cat and mouse of his play, his show, and her reveal - I wonder if it was all orchestrated by Richard and Fiona. If so it seems to be playing out perfectly.

@TheMoxin 2 ай бұрын

i was wondering that myself, but then, shes so out of it, i think hes instead just trying to use that to his advantage. if and when we found her, it will be his word vs hers. but her privacy was not considered, not in the least, so in that way you are correct.

@SusanaXpeace2u 2 ай бұрын

They should have called it ''Toddler Tiger'' and Richard Gadd should not have played himself.

@stephiegetsit 2 ай бұрын

The beard lawyer looks like Abraham Lincoln.

@Treeangel45 2 ай бұрын

No, no he doesn’t at all. 😂

@akaakaakaak5779 2 ай бұрын

yall so quick to assume you know the full story (meaning people in the comments here), the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

@deegralak-roe 2 ай бұрын

She's suing Piers Morgan for £1M now 😂 She needs a good doctor.

@cultural.narratives 2 ай бұрын

If she hadn't come forward and identified herself, nobody would have known the real person behind Martha. She chose for it to happen; she could have remained anonymous and not verified her identity, leaving people to guess.

@user-jp1lx9om9l 2 ай бұрын

She has no chance...she lives in her own world of fantasy along with believing in her own lies.

@moosehunzie1880 2 ай бұрын

It was Richards side of the story. She's got nothing!

@itsgeorgiexo 2 ай бұрын

That beard is so gnarly

@kells4152 2 ай бұрын

Andy, YOU TWISTED HER WORDS and HER MEANINGS!

@jessicah3782 2 ай бұрын

I'm loving the external drama. At first I was questioning if he really thinks she's mentally ill, is this something he should have done but it looks like even if she is, she can handle her own and I want to see what happens.

@delxinogaming6046 2 ай бұрын

Her attorney will calculate it will never go to discovery, and they can settle quickly. No one has an incentive to go to court

@susanwilliams7831 2 ай бұрын

LMFAO when he said ‘who ever her lawyer is run away fast’ 😂😂

@LindaG752 2 ай бұрын

Omg Andy! Just watched today’s Piers and you taking on that annoying woman was hilarious! “I don’t care! I want to speak!” 😂😂😂😂😂

@thewebstylist 2 ай бұрын

Speaking of crazy, that’s the craziest looking lawyer I’ve ever seen for one

@Beckaboo3397 2 ай бұрын

4:20 I believe they didn’t put “based on a true story” or “surrounding real events “ From what I heard it was claimed to be 100% true . If that’s true that’s where Netflix will have a problem. Because if there’s even one small thing in the series isn’t true then it’s not 100% accurate and would be defamatory. That’s just what I’ve heard though I haven’t even watched it.

@rebecca2474 2 ай бұрын

They actually should take care of her health wise, pay her a therapist or something 🙈

@KColes63 2 ай бұрын

Or she is playing us all and if she can prove it...she now gets thrown into the limelight and makes a fist of money also....she is a lawyer after all!

@AngelLili1 2 ай бұрын

Reality is Netflix team is iron tight. She ll get zero. She is enjoying all the attention

@ceriliz289 2 ай бұрын

Of course she is

@Chunter060 2 ай бұрын

Dude looks like Jafar 😯

@Ernesto_Gonzalez 2 ай бұрын

1:18 Crazy Stacker 😮

@chantalgoedhart8630 2 ай бұрын

No chance, she will be investigated and everything will unravel

@patsytyler2199 2 ай бұрын

Unravel

@patsytyler2199 2 ай бұрын

Unravel

@chantalgoedhart8630 2 ай бұрын

@@patsytyler2199 thank you Patsy! English is not my native language

@MeNonya 2 ай бұрын

I feel the receipts coming!

@singasong31 2 ай бұрын

but it doesn't say 'based on a true story'. It literally says 'this is a true story' in the beginning of the show?

@LyricsOfBestSongs 2 ай бұрын

How is this „lawyer“ talking with so much conviction and hasnt even watched the show?

@BlindSideNZ 2 ай бұрын

3:24 not based, they’re claiming it is a true story. There’s no based, no inspired by, just an emphatic “is a true story”.

@BigMama2022 2 ай бұрын

Am l thevonly one who thinks the lawyer looks like Rasputin??😂😂😂😂

@That_guy915 2 ай бұрын

To be fair the ending depicts the huge amount of trauma her character faced in her early childhood. In the end it is a sad but more than real story of things that really happen. We needed this.

@Susan-nm3sx 2 ай бұрын

For all those blaming her, don’t, she got thrown under the bus! It doesn’t matter if she is or isn’t, or has mental issues, it’s defamation of character, and it’s now bullying.

@dscrerar1111 2 ай бұрын

💯

@Kaytemplerose 2 ай бұрын

And death threats.

@claresmith9261 2 ай бұрын

We still don’t know if the 41,000 texts , letters etc exist, in fairness to her , we’re just been told they do

@coralieelliott2076 2 ай бұрын

When MM took the newspaper to court about the paper publishing parts of her Dad's letter--the British Court basically said that even though MM wrote the letters and sent it to her Dad--the letter was her property and the newspaper had no business publishing the letter without MM's consent. On this logic and apparently British Law--do the letters, emails and texts belong to Fiona and Richard and Netflix and the internet sleuths had no business publishing them on the series or on newspapers or the internet with out her consent?

@claresmith9261 2 ай бұрын

@@coralieelliott2076 Totally agree

@rachelboyle9199 2 ай бұрын

She outed herself on Piers Morgan and she definitely needs mental help and seems very bitter about the money Richard has made...Piers shouldn't have given her a platform and hes running with it plus this woman actually has a real law degree😱but she didnt do herself any favours in that interview with Piers as she has prior claims of stalking another woman..plus she said she had at least 6 email addresses and at least 4 phones🤔shes looking for money i think because Richard has made money and shes jealous but interviewing her on live tv was a bad move its just proves that Richard was telling the truth and the actress who played her deserves an oscar

@bridgettegallagher2264 2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't be crazy if they were in on it😂😂😂

@bonniebuell7322 2 ай бұрын

I just can't see any reputable lawyer taking her case

@wildweasel3001 2 ай бұрын

A psychologist suggested behaviour such as that is consistent with clinical narcissism due to child hood traumatic . But yeah something going on there

@Drew.P.Todger 2 ай бұрын

Piers was taking it easy on her.

@charityvollmar7059 2 ай бұрын

I have been reading her posts on Facebook. It’s wild how exact they matched Martha’s antics to her own. Just for example, May 1, she had 40 posts alone.

@charityvollmar7059 2 ай бұрын

Oh and found a few examples of her lies on Piers. Yikes

@mirandaplant5542 2 ай бұрын

Could Netflix counter sue her? Cuz honestly if things start to get proven as true in court Netflix could take it as her trying to silence one of her victims.

@grappisrule 2 ай бұрын

yes, i watched the show because of this, then it took me hours to get to sleep. This woman feeds off attention, I don't want to give her any more

@grappisrule 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting question, I think it was that it was like a normal story, then there were unpredictable unhinged bits that shook me. When that had happened enough times I had to turn it off and watch the rest in daylight.

@sabinereynaudsf 2 ай бұрын

No need to use the exact tweets. Netflix would know that she can be identified that way.

@herschellebenting7558 2 ай бұрын

Netflix would never put this master piece out if he didn't have the proof

@SheilaODrane 2 ай бұрын

In the beginning of the film, "this is a true story," comes across the screen.....not "based on," or "inspired by." Any expert guest, like this lawyer, making comment should know the facts of the film....and he did not. The creators wrote...."true story," NOT, "based on."