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Pop Goes the 60s

Pop Goes the 60s

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Viewers have offered great comments, questions and additions to this "fly on the wall" eavesdropping with have with the infamous "argument" between George & Paul that takes place during the Beatles Let It Be / Get Back Sessions. Many thanks to my Liverpool brothers and sisters who I am happy to defer to when transcribing Beatles dialog.
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@josephmarshall6599
@josephmarshall6599 3 жыл бұрын
“Paul, I mean-uh...” is what I hear.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
You probably nailed it. Makes more contextual sense. Thanks Joseph!
@josephmarshall6599
@josephmarshall6599 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 and thank you for the fantastic content, sincerely. After 25 years of reading practically every book and shred of info on the Beatles, both as a group and individually - it’s difficult to find “new” insight and fresh perspectives. You are articulate, obviously well researched, highly knowledgeable and I find the content highly enjoyable and informative. I especially love the Beatle deep-dives. Thanks for the great work! Keep it up!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmarshall6599 You're welcome, Joseph and thank you for the warm comment - more to come!
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@Hegstuffing
@Hegstuffing 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@ryban1001
@ryban1001 3 жыл бұрын
I hear: “Paul, you know ...”
@robertdominguez6002
@robertdominguez6002 3 жыл бұрын
this
@Beatles60
@Beatles60 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@josephmarshall6599
@josephmarshall6599 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcairns8266 I hear “Paul, I mean-uh” or more like “Puh’-i-mean-uh”
@notvalidcharacters
@notvalidcharacters 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephmarshall6599 But there' s no M in it. It's clearly an L leading into the long E.
@Tracer9GTRider8
@Tracer9GTRider8 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@weebgrinder
@weebgrinder 3 жыл бұрын
I think I could watch a 3 hour long video on this one argument lmao
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman 3 жыл бұрын
I still think a trip to Monty Python's Argument Clinic would have avoided most of this.
@jeffclement2468
@jeffclement2468 2 жыл бұрын
No it would'nt!
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffclement2468 Yes it would!
@thomasspravka1370
@thomasspravka1370 3 жыл бұрын
What keeps coming back to me about "Let It Be" is that we are, not overtly but subtle like, led to believe that this is a rehearsal for a performance when actually it is a unique view into the Beatles writing and creating process. A view very few had been privileged to experience and a group dynamic that was completely foreign to the general public's perception of the "Fab Four" from earlier films. Although anyone who has ever been in a band would relate quite easily.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Beatle meetings and discussions are so interesting. We get a good into their creative process during a difficult time.
@bryonmartin9221
@bryonmartin9221 23 күн бұрын
Perfect distinction!
@deepvoodoo
@deepvoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
I still hear “Paulina.” “It only occurs,” makes more sense and sounds more accurate. I agree about George’s comment about “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer,” probably being innocent enough.
@jamesgatson7385
@jamesgatson7385 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing it again about George telling Paul, "Let's do "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"', he wasn't being 'funny' acting about it. He was serious.
@timothysullysullivan2571
@timothysullysullivan2571 3 жыл бұрын
I agree- he sounds totally sincere. His sarcastic tone is unmistakable and not showing there at all.
@Nerkin610
@Nerkin610 3 жыл бұрын
I think George most definitely says “it’s funny, though, how it only occurs when we...”
@nicksherreard1215
@nicksherreard1215 3 жыл бұрын
It’s over compensation. I know George says ‘care’ as ‘cur’ but he also say occur as occur.
@TheEvbox
@TheEvbox 3 жыл бұрын
Minor note but vamp is just playing the chord. In johns instance instead of playing that swung guitar riff he was just going to play the chords to make it easier for him to sing his part.
@prettyshinyspaghetti8332
@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, exactly
@elizabethburke637
@elizabethburke637 3 жыл бұрын
Paul like ya know
@richarddefortuna2252
@richarddefortuna2252 3 жыл бұрын
Playing the chord or playing the chord progression over and over, with little to no variation.
@jackielangley5154
@jackielangley5154 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the "Paulina's". I still think that's what George said. As I remember from the LIB movie, Ringo doesn't talk all day but at the end (first dayish) he says to Paul I think Get Back is the only good track today. I love this series. Thanks for all your work. You busted the All Things Must Pass myth too.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jackie! More to come.
@rafaelzengo5534
@rafaelzengo5534 3 жыл бұрын
A vamp is a simple, straight chord progression, mostly strummed in a straight way, without much embellishment, as both a harmonic background and time keeping device.
@Cameron-yz1ee
@Cameron-yz1ee 3 жыл бұрын
Paulina. Clear as day to my ears. Not a question.
@nicksherreard1215
@nicksherreard1215 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people think the Beatles are speaking in their own code. George is a chronic mumbler at times which doesn’t help. Most of what they say is just plain language, no dark mystery. It’s just difficult to understand. You often have to listen to what’s said around it.
@braenharen
@braenharen 3 жыл бұрын
Listen again .. your confusing Liverpool sing song melodic with a full word
@deepvoodoo
@deepvoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be, “Pauline, now...”?
@SuperGogetem
@SuperGogetem 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to hear the entire Sept.9th, '69 boardroom tape!
@rocktober1327
@rocktober1327 3 жыл бұрын
George could of been teasing Paul by calling him Paulina. Good video, thumbs up.
@sweetheart.nikkilee430
@sweetheart.nikkilee430 3 жыл бұрын
as a previous transcriber, i can confirm it is soooo difficult to get things right when there's accents and dialects and emotions and noise involved.
@rbadger420
@rbadger420 3 жыл бұрын
Another Liverpudlian here. I think he says "Paul- you know" kinda like he's went to say Paul but its turned into a "you know" last minute. Also the cadence of his voice seems wrong. The high pitched "you", suits a defensive "you know" I often hear them giving if they're under any pressure; not exactly screaming vitriol. I think to call him a girl's name so casually would be a bit strange. Is there any other record of Paul being called Paulina? I could understand if its an in-joke but I personally doubt George would resort to emasculating name calling in this context. "Paul- you know" just seems to require fewer assumptions overall. I do wish he'd went home and wrote a song called "Paulina" alongside "Wah-Wah" though. Ps. I also agree that he says "occurs".
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Liverpool perspective. I am content to defer to a Liverpudlian in this matter. Much appreciated.
@rbadger420
@rbadger420 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 You're welcome! Love the content, hoping to see a Left Banke video some time!?
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
@@rbadger420 You will see the Left Banke covered! They are on my very long list.
@rbadger420
@rbadger420 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 Thank you greatly! Best dishes from Liddypool.
@Beatles60
@Beatles60 3 жыл бұрын
That makes complete sense!
@SparkyNarwhal
@SparkyNarwhal 3 жыл бұрын
Wooooooah, if that is “but you know” I’m impressed. But I’m Texan so we don’t get a say in what is proper English at all. Lol
@L0REN0R2Z0RR0
@L0REN0R2Z0RR0 3 жыл бұрын
Scousers also don't 😄
@jackilyncaraballo6586
@jackilyncaraballo6586 3 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying your informative videos very much! This coming fall I will be 70, I hope I remember to say (as I say goodbye to my sixties) “ POP GOES THE 60’s”! I am a life long Beatle fan since their 2nd appearance on The Ed Sullivan show.
@loyd7773
@loyd7773 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I remember 10 of us sitting around the black and white TV watching them on Ed Sullivan. I was only 6 but it changed my life forever for sure. Never understood why my dad (in charge of the TV) wanted to watch it. Think he wanted to see what all the craziness was all about. How great too have 10,000 girls chasing you down. Well yeah but She Loves You will always be my theme song.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like the videos. An early happy birthday too!
@PaulMcMinotaur
@PaulMcMinotaur 3 жыл бұрын
As a Paul myself... no one says "Paulina" It's always "Paulianna" or "Paula"
@nomehdrider
@nomehdrider 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever he said he doesn't seem to be trying to antagonize Paul, but who can say? Great follow-up, I really enjoy these.
@Thomas-uo4jy
@Thomas-uo4jy 2 жыл бұрын
"how long does it take to hate maxwells silver hammer?" LOL
@johnnhoj6749
@johnnhoj6749 3 жыл бұрын
There is a recording of John playing a song for the others to evaluate/learn. I can't remember which song off-hand but it was at least a couple or more years earlier. John is initially playing it on the guitar with arpeggios or something else slightly ornate and then stops. He says that it's too awkward for him to sing and play the arpeggios at the same time (until he has practised it, being the implication) so he'll just strum the chords instead. Which he proceeds to do. This establishes that, like many musicians would, just playing the song on its simplest level until they had it solid was a default position if to do anything else was a problem. I think that The Beatles, like a lot of self-taught musicians did and do, often got formal musical terms slightly wrong or used them with a looser meaning than, say, a classically trained musician would. I think that they thought of vamping as synonymous with just playing the basic chords as an accompaniment. In a pre-internet era and when there was very little written material aimed at the popular musician most of what The Beatles knew about musical terms was from their peers and what they had heard in passing without necessarily understanding the exact definition. It's easy to imagine them seeing, say, a pianist playing a succession of chords as an introduction and being told that they are "vamping". That might seem that just playing the chords was a vamp, not the fact that it happened to be an introduction.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they may have used that term loosely, not knowing too much musical theory. Thanks John!
@johnnhoj6749
@johnnhoj6749 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 Looking at some of the other comments, there are people saying that vamp definitely means strumming the chords while someone sings while, for example, Grove Music, possibly the most established bible of musical terms talks about vamping as an introduction or as an instrumental interlude and seems to be specifically excluding simple chord accompaniment during sung passages. So the difference in formal and informal definition seems to continue. www.oxfordmusiconline.com/grovemusic/view/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.001.0001/omo-9781561592630-e-2000463200#:~:text=A%20short%20passage,%20which%20is,and,%20by%20extension,%20during%20or
@timothysullysullivan2571
@timothysullysullivan2571 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. By 'vamp' in this context, John means "i'll just play the chords over and over so we can get it down and figure out our parts." Which is basically what Paul is telling George- wait til later to do elaborations, solos and detailed fills. Which offends George b'c his preferred approach is to just start playing lots of different stuff right off the bat.
@psychmajortodd
@psychmajortodd 2 жыл бұрын
That was during a demo he made for "Strawberry Fields Forever", I think when he was filming "How I Won the War". I remember it from one of the Anthology albums.
@rodjones117
@rodjones117 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothysullysullivan2571 Absolutely right - most bands of non-classical musicians evolve their own terms for things. I was in a band where "middle eight" meant any kind of bridge or transitional passage, regardless of however many bars it was.
@judmcc
@judmcc 3 жыл бұрын
I hear "it only occurs when" but I don't hear "but you know".
@LearnMusclescom
@LearnMusclescom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your intellectual honesty in re-examining your video and taking corrections where warranted. Kudos!!!
@jimmybonar2566
@jimmybonar2566 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried so hard to reinterpret what George is saying but it still sounds like 'Paulina' to me!
@trimeywatts9491
@trimeywatts9491 3 жыл бұрын
Or "palina, its like that" which fits even better...
@kaspafischer
@kaspafischer 3 жыл бұрын
me too! still sounds like "Paulina" to me, not "what you know..." LOL
@nicksherreard1215
@nicksherreard1215 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight into Maxwell. I just listened to the first performance by Paul on piano on the 3rd. Ringo’s tapping along and laughing. It’s only the endless takes that turn everyone against this song.
@timothysullysullivan2571
@timothysullysullivan2571 3 жыл бұрын
It's also a penultimate example of what John called "Paul's granny music", meaning the old-fashioned music hall style song. So I'm sure John hated it immediately , and in this period, George and Ringo tended to follow John's lead on most things.
@rodjones117
@rodjones117 2 жыл бұрын
It is a shit song though...
@Justin_Kipper
@Justin_Kipper 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I put George's sentence into Audacity, ran a bit of noise reduction on the guitar playing in the background, and then lowered the tempo to hear him speak a bit slower. At a slower speed, it's easier to hear that George is saying "well, you know" and not "Paulina".
@christoh711
@christoh711 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely sounds like "well you know". But does one hear Yanny or Laurel?
@rodjones117
@rodjones117 2 жыл бұрын
That gets my vote, for what it's worth. It's a good fit with his scouse accent.
@matthewstreet1961
@matthewstreet1961 3 жыл бұрын
Great follow up video Matt! Thanks for all the clarifications. Take care, Matt
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Street! Thanks for stopping by.
@Rey__Jan
@Rey__Jan 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the next uploads! I really enjoy the in-depth analysis you make on your videos, really ties in and explains a lot of questions people have, giving some light to the otherwise dark original account of events.
@stevestudley4060
@stevestudley4060 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have really enjoyed your insight.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment, Steve!
@fmel2860
@fmel2860 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! I love the detail you go into
@hungfao
@hungfao 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the follow up.
@happyron
@happyron 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forwar dto more of these. Like many people i have the complete tapes but never wanted to listen to hundreds of hours, this breakdown with transriptions really brings it alive. I hope more and more of this stuff comes out this way.
@joopspeth6483
@joopspeth6483 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a bit touching, you don't call your enemy Paulina, only a good and trusted friend who understands what you actually mean.
@gspublishingdirect1749
@gspublishingdirect1749 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your channel. It’s shows time after time, you really do your homework! Kudos.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Much thanks - more to come!
@gripweed313
@gripweed313 3 жыл бұрын
I just love and appreciate the in-depth research and details this gentleman puts into his work. Matt, you just got yourself a new subscriber
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! More to come.
@calebgaddi1428
@calebgaddi1428 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Thanks for making them. Appreciate the effort on trying to read every comment. I love watching your videos and enjoy reading the more insightful comments.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Caleb. Sometimes the comments give me ideas for more videos!
@camrynporter
@camrynporter 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content! So glad I found your channel.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome, Camryn!
@Homebrew58
@Homebrew58 3 жыл бұрын
In Mark Lewisohn's book he mentions several times in the early years portion about John "vamping" on guitar. I took it to mean playing rhythm since Paul at the time was the better guitarist and John was still playing banjo chords. It would have been a term they had all heard and used since their teens.
@tomchristie3199
@tomchristie3199 3 жыл бұрын
Just different approaches to arranging. Paul wants the rhythm section to 'feel' right for the entire song before embellishing it. I'd suggest he was right in this case - he knew the arrangement they were using was wrong for the song and wanted to reassess the basic approach rather than get bogged down trying to improve it in its uptempo electric form. Once they slowed it down and acoustified it then it fell right into place
@kn1091
@kn1091 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I just love listening to there audio cheers mate
@darins8756
@darins8756 2 жыл бұрын
To vamp is simply to play a small section of music repeatedly until it's time to play something else. Some people are saying it's a chord but it can be a chord progression, an arpeggio, an ostinato, anything really. In musical theatre scores you frequently find the instruction to vamp a few bars of music under some dialogue and then continue with the song once the dialogue is complete.
@loyd7773
@loyd7773 3 жыл бұрын
That is another thing great about the Beatles. Their egos really didnt get in the way of them producing such great quality. especially for that time. I saw local bands collapse simply because of egos. I don't have an ego problem but I would rather record everything myself. Cuts down on the arguments for sure.
@qmoonwalker3847
@qmoonwalker3847 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Thanks for the great videos. Really enjoy and am happy that I now don't think the boys were at each others throats like it was originally made out years earlier. Please keep these coming!!
@IAMDRREMULAKK
@IAMDRREMULAKK 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting more and more impressed with your videos. You really dissect events, to the point where we are more likely to have an accurate interpretation of what happened.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There is a large void of deep Beatles discussion topics and I'm glad my ideas are finding a home! More to come.
@unagjac890
@unagjac890 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I hear it now!! "But you know..."
@nicksherreard1215
@nicksherreard1215 3 жыл бұрын
I hear ‘Yanni’ 😂
@loyd7773
@loyd7773 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Your doing a great job. My wife and are avid Beatle fans. Her favorite song is Don't let me down. So we got in an argument about it being on Let It Be. I said no. So she walks over to her collection of CD's and pulls out "Let it Be Naked". Its on that version. Oh brother. Never even knew that version existed. I stand half corrected.
@alanjones4075
@alanjones4075 3 жыл бұрын
First time we all heard it was as a B side of the Get Back single in April 1969.
@loyd7773
@loyd7773 3 жыл бұрын
@@alanjones4075 Yes I remember that single. Was thinking how hard it was to get music at that time. Maybe you could afford a 45, or hope for the song to come on the radio. Man these kids don't know how good they got it.
@jean-marieboucherit4716
@jean-marieboucherit4716 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Fascinating.
@sterling19
@sterling19 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, another conspiracy theory is born...Paul is actually a Polish woman called Paulina! No wonder George is so confused!
@lg4360
@lg4360 3 жыл бұрын
Best reply yet!
@Stahlgewitter
@Stahlgewitter 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Billy Shears was!!
@christoh711
@christoh711 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Sweet Loretta Martin thought she was a woman but she was another man
@tiagoylospajaros
@tiagoylospajaros 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Matt!!
@musicin2flavors
@musicin2flavors 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!
@abrahama2643
@abrahama2643 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel. I'd like to see videos about different fights the had. Especially stories of times one of them walked out.
@Bearschoice
@Bearschoice 3 жыл бұрын
He said Paulina
@petabulmer7345
@petabulmer7345 3 жыл бұрын
I just came from the first video to this one, I hear it too.
@douglassaul1694
@douglassaul1694 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Channel AGAIN! THANKS 😎
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words, Douglas!
@markjamesmeli2520
@markjamesmeli2520 3 жыл бұрын
Well....they may have only given "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" a couple of 30-ish second runs because they hated it that much from the get-go(lol). As for John...wasn't Yoko attached to John's leg during most of those sessions? He may have been preoccupied with that. Thanks, so much, again Matt for doing these.
@saml302
@saml302 3 жыл бұрын
did they really hate it? I always loved it for its duopoly
@jeanmenard3060
@jeanmenard3060 3 жыл бұрын
Keep on going Matt, you are really great ! You are a brother to all of us, you even can be called " a daddy of us all " !!! We all have different opinions but you are listening to everyone of us with respect, even if your knowledge is by far a lot greater than ours ! Thank you so much for your great work ! The Beatles will never be surpassed, till the end of time !!! Thank you great friend ! ❤
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jean. I appreciate the kind words. More to come!
@jeanmenard3060
@jeanmenard3060 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 : 👍❤ !
@christianstough6337
@christianstough6337 3 жыл бұрын
great catch.
@thomaswalsh499
@thomaswalsh499 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is prob the best historical music channel out there good stuff man would be awesome if u did a vid on The Beach Boys lotta topics like their dad and pet sounds all that stuff
@adrianmist6681
@adrianmist6681 3 жыл бұрын
You’re doing some great work on this, debunking many of the past 50 years of bad vibes on the Get Back project, keep it up, the truth will come out eventually.
@BrianJump
@BrianJump 2 жыл бұрын
To vamp, in this context, means to apply a simple, rhythmic pattern to the song’s chord sequence-that is, strum the chords. George was applying a wacky-action rhythm to the chords instead. Vamp, in a jazz context, refers to a repeated single-chord motif or two-chord riff used to set up the feel of a song. Vamps allow players and singers to begin the tune whenever they want. Yes, vamps are usually at the beginnings of songs. Great video, man. I’ve been enjoying your content.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification, Brian - much appreciated!
@whateveritsnoyes
@whateveritsnoyes 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video for basically proving the idea that Beatles rumors or preconceptions are born almost always out of limited/incomplete information that’s often thought of as accurate, despite merely being projections/assumptions.
@stevenbowman761
@stevenbowman761 3 жыл бұрын
This is very insightful - thanks. I'll bet you're right that they probably argued about each record and that a big reason for Let It Be's reputation for being divisive is that it's the only sessions that were filmed.
@Thomasgene
@Thomasgene 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! Why did I wish/want/also hear it was Paulnia, as what George said! I did not think it was said as/ in "hate' but it was in "look buddy" a calling out.as in a working art enviroment! oh well props to you for "fixin a hole where the rain comes in" BTW it shows how something you want to believe can be really far away from the truth! Ringo Drum God Knows how to be a good band mate to 3 Dejas! Face it when your working with Paul McCartney now known as "Paulina", John Friggin Winston Lennon, and Guru George Harrison it is best to be quiet. Actully it's best! as is he! Love the question about "how long does it take to hate Maxwell Silver Hammer" BTW I had to go back several times to transcribe what you said about what they said. Love your hard work, great job.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Much thanks! I appreciate the comment.
@glennsmusic
@glennsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
It all sounds perfectly innocuous. A band learning new songs, trying out different things, throwing ideas out there, searching for the right style, discussing things, bouncing ideas off each other. The song writer is perfectly within his rights to have final say on how his song will sound. This is Paul looking for the right style for his song. Of course as a band everyone should be able to contribute ideas. If George has ideas then he will put them out there for Paul to ponder. If John has no specific ideas at this time, he will wait and let the others go at it, maybe he will add ideas later. However, ultimately it would be for the songwriter to have final say. I don't know if there is vision to go with this audio but you can't really judge this on audio alone. You don't know what John is doing at this point. He is most likely paying close attention so that he knows what's going on. From the vision I've seen, I know this is true of Ringo. He doesn't say much but he knows exactly what's going on and what's required of him. The other thing to keep in mind is that these guys have been doing this since high school. I feel quite sure they can have a gentle dig at each other without anyone taking offense. And I'm also pretty sure this wouldn't be the first time someone's had a whine because somebody did or said or didn't do or didn't say something. Re: Maxwell's Silver Hammer, I can totally imagine a little grin on George's face as he says this as if to say "I know you all hate this song, that's why I'm suggesting it. I just want to get a little rise out of you all." And right after this Ringo throws a drumstick at him and he runs for cover. In other words I'm just having a little fun, don't take it so seriously. But really, this sounds like a normal day at the office for a band working up new songs. ps vamping is just doing a rhythmical chord strumming. the rhythm guitar in Get Back would be vamping. I think George does it on the rooftop while John is playing lead and riffs. the classic Chuck Berry style of rock 'n' roll rhythm playing would be considered vamping. But it could also be the more chunky style used in heavy rock / metal.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the substantive comment, Glenn!
@liverpoolsessions-beatlesf1554
@liverpoolsessions-beatlesf1554 3 жыл бұрын
Well, cheers to everyone for finding a new level of Beatles minutia that would make Mark Lewisohn blush! lol. So firstly, it sounds like "Paulina" but as others have investigated, it's "Pol' ya na" (Paul, you know) with a quick blurting Liverpool slur. (or arguably "bu ya na" - But you know - with a hard 'B' or "We' ya na" - Well, you know) As a long time obsessor of such things, there certainly is no context or precedent for George to feminize Paul's name. (...But I still hear "House of Paul" instead of "House of Lords" in Day in the Life, so make up your own mind! lol) Secondly, I'll agree with our host that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" was too early in the process for this to be a sarcastic remark. During the recording process, the band member's generally remained respectful of the songs brought to the table. You can hear the laughter in the very recording of "Ob La Di" and Meditation student Paul Saltzman speaks of John cheerfully singing the same song with Paul in India. It was only after Paul clicked into perfectionist mode that the others tired of such works. The comment sounds more like humouring a child having a bit of a tantrum. Just to change gears but still working on a new song that Paul had brought to the table.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for adding to the conversation!
@alane6975
@alane6975 2 жыл бұрын
great vid
@KieranThomasSmith
@KieranThomasSmith 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from liverpool I can confirm there is no way he's saying 'but you know', he's saying paulina
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the input, much appreciated.
@KieranThomasSmith
@KieranThomasSmith 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase 'you know' would never be abbreviated to sound like 'y-n' in a scouse accent - he's saying Paulina... but I don't think he's calling him a diva but actually trying to be jovial
@joopspeth6483
@joopspeth6483 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say: ask a Scouser, so here you are. Good.
@MRynbout
@MRynbout 3 жыл бұрын
So that's two different answers from two different Liverpudlians. I love it!
@Stahlgewitter
@Stahlgewitter 3 жыл бұрын
"Paul you know?"
@alexlemmon5601
@alexlemmon5601 3 жыл бұрын
"How long does it take to hate Maxwell's Silver Hammer?" In my case a 30-sec runthrough is more than enough 😂
@thomasseery7570
@thomasseery7570 3 жыл бұрын
I think George calling Paul , Paulina is actually a sign of affection. I heard it when I was young and Rod Stewart and Elton John have female nicknames, I might be wrong but I have heard it used.
@timothysullysullivan2571
@timothysullysullivan2571 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a brit/show biz thing? Keef often calls Jagger "Brenda".
@trimeywatts9491
@trimeywatts9491 3 жыл бұрын
he may be saying "palina, its like that" referring to the act of cleansing something afterwards since that is exactly his position in the "argument".
@psychmajortodd
@psychmajortodd 2 жыл бұрын
This one and #051 were very interesting. I seem to recall when I was watching the Anthology shows that it was implied that George left on the day when he made that statement "I'll play whatever you want me to play or I won't play at all". However, when you listen to the entire conversation, it kind of puts his statement in a different light.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this event has been poorly reported and from it, myths have emerged. Thanks for the comment, Todd.
@wyliesmith4244
@wyliesmith4244 11 ай бұрын
Matt, At the risk of raining on some people's parade, this whole Let It Be stuff really wears on me. It's just not what addicted me to the Beatles. For a break, I watched the 'Hey Bulldog' video that, I presume. was filmed in the studio. John starts singing 'Hey bullfrog' so I guess that the barking helped change the title. In any case, I watched five times in a row, grinning all the time. Heck, even John was grinning. While I do appreciate some of the 'deeper' stuff, songs like 'Hey Bulldog' lift my mood while grooving on the guitar and bass, and everything else."Let It Be' just drags my mood down. I guess that it depends what you want from the Beatles, but from the moment that I heard 'I Want to Hold Your Hand, ' the Beatles were my go-to good feeling band.
@rbr672
@rbr672 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, you mention disagreements and walkouts during rubber soul and revolver. Can you do videos on those? Thank you for all the insight!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I heard about the Rubber Soul conflict when Mark Lewisohn mentioned it in a podcast. I don't have any other info on that, so we may have to wait 'til his All These Years Vol 2, hopefully out in the next 18 months or so. These are 2 things I do plan to follow up on. Thanks for the suggestion!
@tomculhane6648
@tomculhane6648 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Especially the British invasion and Beatle stuff. Great job!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tom - more to come!
@johnharrison9685
@johnharrison9685 3 жыл бұрын
I think in the previous video you did on this “argument”, you can clearly hear Georgie Girl say to Paul “I don’t care anymore, anything you say doesn’t bother (or upset?) me anymore.”
@seanaiello4984
@seanaiello4984 3 жыл бұрын
Thought it was funny if he had called him Paulina but agree it must've have been something like "Paul, you know..." My take on John is he just wanted to get on with the song and working it out.
@ppixilation
@ppixilation 3 жыл бұрын
I don't hate Maxwell's Silver Hammer. I bought Abbey Road when it came out, and loved everything on it
@tyronewhitehead3123
@tyronewhitehead3123 3 жыл бұрын
Listened again I asked other people and they all agree Paulina listen accents can be tricky thanks I enjoyed watching both parts 🙏
@SuddenlyAliens
@SuddenlyAliens 3 жыл бұрын
Great observation that John was just--well, observing! One thing I've noticed listening to these tapes is how often John brings up things that were referenced days earlier (and half the time it seems like the others don't even notice it). One that stuck out to me was how Paul compliments the flutes on a canned heat song and an entire week later, during the lunchroom tape, John specifically says he "can't hear the flutes" when he's doing arrangement. It's hard to call someone who is listening that closely disengaged--though it comes across as a bit passive aggressive at times when he's clearly not speaking directly to the others about how he feels.
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I will be doing another video that shows John's engagement more upfront, dispelling the myth that he was bored and didn't want to be there. Thanks for watching.
@sethflix
@sethflix 3 жыл бұрын
He said "Paulina."
@PaulDowsettUK
@PaulDowsettUK 9 ай бұрын
John explained what he means by vamp/vamping at 4:13 of the other video (#51). Instead of the kind of "podding horse" style at 4:09 (or galloping at 1:18), he wanted to simply strum the chords, because he was finding it "annoying" to do that at the same time as singing. Essentially, he was supporting what Paul was saying.
@strose2002
@strose2002 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think the argument was that big of a deal. Pretty tame to me. Enjoy your videos. Glad you have more coming about Let It Be. And I hope when they release the Anniversary project of Let It Be, they don't screw us on the bonus out takes, like they did on Abbey Road!
@kingzing9865
@kingzing9865 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that George changed his mind somewhere down the line, and pulled back on All things must pass...to keep it for himself....
@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504
@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really sound like a Beatle song anyway.
@timothysullysullivan2571
@timothysullysullivan2571 3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 I agree- just can't see that song fitting in any of those albums in that time. I think also they failed to get the right feel/arrangement so tabled it. But it was probably more John & Paul pushing it off than George.
@braenharen
@braenharen 3 жыл бұрын
Paul but you know .. the but part fades out that’s why it sounds like Paulina
@BCISTUDIOS
@BCISTUDIOS 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool I subscribed
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! And thank you.
@dominicmarleau
@dominicmarleau Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, thanks for everything, I’m looking for the audio clip where the three guys are telling Paul “obladi oblada, how could you made that to us” or something like that. ( or was it for Maxwell?) I thought I heard that on your channel but cannot find it anymore…
@guyincognito5706
@guyincognito5706 3 жыл бұрын
Great points. And 4:40 I agree. When I saw your previous video, I assumed John is staying out of it because it’s between George and Paul. And while John stays out of the discussion, I believe he can be heard in the background rehearsing some of the guitar parts. There are occasions where John is disinterested and tuned out, but to me, this was not one of them.
@lolcool7309
@lolcool7309 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video explaining the rubber soul argument between john and paul. Thanks a lot, love your content
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I have only heard about his argument from a Mark Lewisohn podcast he was on and I don't have details. We may have to wait for Lewisohn's Vol. 2 of All These Years, which is due out hopefully next year. Thank you for watching!
@lolcool7309
@lolcool7309 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 oh ok ill check out the podcast thanks for replying
@1nelsondj
@1nelsondj 3 жыл бұрын
I've always like John's song the best especially from 1965 onward. I think that's because he was more willing to let the others contribute to the arrangement. For me it makes them more memorable but in later years he said many of them weren't performed/recorded properly. Paul knew what he wanted to hear and how to get it even if they had to spend hours getting it. John was more abstract, he wanted a certain feel and sometimes left it to George Martin and the engineers to get that.
@Horiatiki777
@Horiatiki777 3 жыл бұрын
one can hear some slight sarcasm in george's voice when he says " do you wanna do... maxwell's silver hammer" the way he pauses before uttering the name of the song says a lot. i agree also on the fact that it doesnt take long to love or hate a song.
@MrTheBaron
@MrTheBaron 3 жыл бұрын
1:01 When you play it at a regular speed, it kinda sounds like George's saying "Paulina", but when you slow down that portion a bit, it kinda sounds like he's saying "but you know". The "b" in "but" sounded softer, but the "na" in Paulina sounded close to "know" if that makes sense. Also, kinda weird for George to call Paul "Paulina" don't you think? Just my 2 cents on that bit. 1:57 I get the mix up with "cares" with "occurs". When you hear how he sings "care" in Do You Want To Know A Secret, or Beware of Darkness, it always sounds like an "urr" to me ("You never know how much I really curr..." "Take curr, bewurr..."). I always call that a "George thing". Great followup!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I got an assist from a few Brits on that one. Thank you for watching!
@johnnhoj6749
@johnnhoj6749 3 жыл бұрын
There is more than one strength and type of Liverpool accent and George's in this respect was heavier than the others. That "curr" rather than "care" sound is still heard in Liverpool and was even more common when George was growing up in the 1940/50s.
@ScaryStoriesNYC
@ScaryStoriesNYC 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know more about the fight that actually led to George quitting, which I think was in the middle of the song, "Get Back."
@sirarmysuit9848
@sirarmysuit9848 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Northern England myself. George says But You Know, not Paulina
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir! This is helpful.
@walesdad
@walesdad 3 жыл бұрын
Non Scouser here ,it definitely sounds like "Paulina" to me.
@trimeywatts9491
@trimeywatts9491 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with the bloke who suggested "palina" , not "Paulina". They sound identical, but "palina" fits the subject of the discussion best.
@notvalidcharacters
@notvalidcharacters 2 жыл бұрын
You actually think he was injecting a random reference to the La Palina restaurant in Brooklyn New York? Was it lunchtime? Yeah I had to look that up to get any meaning at all for the word "palina".
@tdunph4250
@tdunph4250 3 жыл бұрын
Great that some discrepancies were cleared up. However, I do believe there was a Paulina present. She was the lady who dusted off the amps and emptied the ashtrays.
@tdunph4250
@tdunph4250 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasoheyze4597 All this hate-on for Yoko is so 1969. I wouldn't have expected it now in 2021. Sure she was a bit of a pain in the ass but she was Lennon's wife and partner for God's sake. So essentially, I guess many of the anti-Yoko are saying that John mad a wrong/bad choice in finding a mate huh? John wasn't an idiot, no one pulled the wool over his eyes. Or are some of you saying he was an idiot for picking Yoko?
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I think some humor about Yoko is warranted. Of course there is a line of going to far, which I don't think this guy did. I do plan on a deeper dive on Yoko, her background and her affect on the group, so stay tuned!
@tdunph4250
@tdunph4250 3 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 definitely looking forward to it. Your channel is awesome!
@justlookingaround9834
@justlookingaround9834 3 жыл бұрын
@@tdunph4250 She was like a human limpet mine during these sessions, it was even then a bit embarrassing.
@woodyreed2882
@woodyreed2882 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get access to all this ? Great stuff.
@jasonberezny9705
@jasonberezny9705 2 жыл бұрын
Ringo for president of the world! 🥁❤️🇨🇦
@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison
@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison 3 жыл бұрын
I'd still like to imagine that George just randomly called Paul, "Paulina."
@Fantumh
@Fantumh 3 жыл бұрын
I love how people accuse John of being checked out when he allows Paul and George to work it out for themselves. It's clear from what he does say, he's trying to set a tone so he doesn't make anything worse. But had he said more, everyone would have been jumping on John about butting in. Sometimes John can't win with people.
@anthonygriffin9275
@anthonygriffin9275 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, can you do a segment on what some of the Beatle's solo songs would sound like as full Beatle's songs? As we know, all the former Beatles were very prolific just after the breakup. It's a great "what if"!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
I've touched upon that in by Albums That Never Were series here on my channel. Let me know what you think.
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