The new 991 Turbo S is a very expensive car. So expensive it probably needs to fend-off more exotic machinery like a yellow McLaren. This could get messy.
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@DonW00110 жыл бұрын
I'd still buy the 911 over the 12C any day.
@healthiswealth67978 жыл бұрын
No launch control used on the Turbo S to make it look even off the mark , this just seemed like Chris Harris was just trying to get into Mclarens good books to get a P1 test drive .
@heinrichbolleurs73118 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Mickey-im3bg8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely pathetic, I can't believe Chris Paris would pulls such a lowlife move. Not only did they not use lonch control but the Mcclearn jumped. It's too bad the British can't prepare a proper, competitive race car to face the Porsche. Chris you lose a stripe, consider yourself demoted. LOL
@rickyhou42498 жыл бұрын
+NIGHTFOX Porsche 1/4 mi in 10.9 sec. practically beating the GTR. I'd say that's enough proof it's one of the best car we can buy.
@SgtMayopants8 жыл бұрын
"Some people are so thick. They assume because the Porsche is quicker from 0-60mph it MUST also be quicker from 0-200mph (which is the speed they reached in the race) . The Mclaren is 300kg lighter and has much more power. The Porsche never stood a chance against that Mclaren over a long distance (like the one in the race). But, the Turbo did win from 0-120 mph (like it should've done). There was no cheating in that race." - Hamzah Mirza
@likeawhispr7 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone with a brain. Why people think 0-60 times mean anything in a race like this is beyond me, because such times don't mean anything. Speed attained by these cars are hardly ever linear so you can't use straight line math (or thought process) to even come to the conclusion that the 911 would win a race with any kind of distance involved against a 12C. I'd buy the Porsche between the two though.
10 жыл бұрын
I thumbed it up right when i saw the cars and Chris Harris!
@SRAMEK8 жыл бұрын
The 911 Turbo is probably the best sportscar/supersport in the world. Yes, it isn't the fastest, but 0-60 can really be achieved in under 3 seconds, plus it's the best to live with every day including winters, the suspension is quite stiff, but still it rides very smoothly and it is very well made, which leads to a good reliability. Don't you agree?
@Krizzzy908988 жыл бұрын
All day
@davidko66358 жыл бұрын
+SRAMEK drove one when we left our Macan Turbo at the dealership for an oil change. Great car overall, a bit scary, but super fast and makes you feel great.
@beeboy69678 жыл бұрын
+SRAMEK Hell yeah fucking right....( I just saw the Drake video :=) I have a 911 1983 SC & I love it.....Haven't driven any other Porsche ( only because I really don't need more speeding fines & I can't go to water cooled ) yes I'm a purist / old fool ! Cheers SRAMEK !
@Chenrandyliu8 жыл бұрын
+SRAMEK well said! I love driving the new 991
@KrustyKlown6 жыл бұрын
Sramek: 911 Turbos don't really like snow ... the turbos sit very low, all that snow slush salt crap basting the hot linkage & shields ... not a good idea. The 911 T is 10X more practical though, simply because there is a usable trunk and TWO back seats .. in a pinch 4 people can fit or one could actually do a grocery run . but NOT in a Mclaren. This means the 911T can be used like most cars on any nice weather day, instead of just a toy to be pulled out on Summer Sunday mornings to justify the purchase with several laps around the block before parking it to take the kids to soccer practice with the mini-van.
@1Seall710 жыл бұрын
More of that behind the head cam! It helps us see the speed and also understand everything like the driver does !
@Krizzzy908988 жыл бұрын
For me the porsche 911 is a true and "real" supercar
@moritz13026 жыл бұрын
Krizzzy90898 wtfffff ? ?????????
@thegirthquake85746 жыл бұрын
Your base carrera doesn't exactly fit in with a Vencer Sarthe, a Ferrari TheFerrari, and even a 918.
@filippoff84894 жыл бұрын
It is.
@william911turbos74 жыл бұрын
No it is a very very fast GT car with Supercar performance!
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
@Joe H I feel like the base is a bargain
@rjs1557010 жыл бұрын
Chris, Thanking you for one uping the F40-episode. You and your crew have found the preverbial sweet spot with the current mix of your talents, the track, and photography. Epic!
@tornpixel10 жыл бұрын
Wow that wide angle shot from the driver perspective is fantastic. More of that please!
@XXxDarkGotenxXX9 жыл бұрын
Crazy beautiful cars but I would still go Porsche
@persikii80204 жыл бұрын
Alexander Bauer hi brother. Finally we met.
@sugarsaint10 жыл бұрын
I though the Porsche did awfully well in that drag race considering the weight and horse power penalty.
@pascalmpower794410 жыл бұрын
GTR can destroy Porsche on drag race, but no one says GTR did a awfully well job.
@sugarsaint10 жыл бұрын
ROCKETGUNS BOOMBS i know your not talking to me, cause nobody mentioned GTR
@pascalmpower794410 жыл бұрын
never mind, you don't know what I mean
@sugarsaint10 жыл бұрын
ROCKETGUNS BOOMBS No i dont, i love GTR,i love all cars esp super cars, but nobody was talking about GTR's here.I was just sticking up for the Porsche on this video considering what a monster it was up against, i thought it hung in there really well.
@pascalmpower794410 жыл бұрын
cool.
@ortzinator10 жыл бұрын
That over-the-shoulder shot was amazing. More of that please.
@sanjivshankar842710 жыл бұрын
That was one of the best comparison videos that i have ever watched, gave justice to both the Legends in the auto industry. Great Job Chris!!
@darkprod16029 жыл бұрын
The Porsche is heavier than the 12C and has less power, but is faster than the McLaren. Then, it is cheaper, but has better quality and drives better. I mean like serious, who would even discuss about which one wins?
@givemeajackson9 жыл бұрын
Shane Nugget from a rational standpoint, you'd have to be an idiot to discuss that. the 991 turbo is a marvel of engineering, no doubt. but well, people don't buy supercars from a rational standpoint. in theory, if you stick to the speed limit, a diesel vauxhall astra will get you from A to B just as fast. it's all about drama, personal taste and emotion at that point. and for me, the 911's simply don't float my boat, and i wouldn't want one, in spite of it being an undeniable masterpiece. i'd much rather have a bright yellow 12c. or, even better, a ginetta g60, despite being worse than both of the cars here.
@moritz13026 жыл бұрын
The mclaren is faster, the mo4 takes 8 sec, from 0-120 amd the porsche 10 seconds from 0-120, even on the track the mp4 is faster
@YaseenAli-zn9ej4 жыл бұрын
Shane Nugget yea this car isn’t that cheap lol. 200k. In the used market, in the high 100s. Still an amazing elegant beast. But mclarren is more expensive and less reliable and slower lol
@silversurfer36364 жыл бұрын
Exactly Shane, McLaren's are ok for rich showboat types. Porsche's are for real drivers who don't need to show off!
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
@@silversurfer3636 You can buy an mp4 for about the same as a used turbo s
@CharlesMacKay8810 жыл бұрын
porsche looks beautiful in that colour
@petersothern29095 жыл бұрын
what colour is it?
@trihardcx67435 жыл бұрын
@@petersothern2909 Blue.
@petersothern29095 жыл бұрын
@@trihardcx6743 what colour blue smartarse
@trihardcx67435 жыл бұрын
@@petersothern2909 Sapphire Blue Metallic.
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
@@petersothern2909 blue
@duanegarbett710010 жыл бұрын
The only show on Drive worth watching!! I love watching Chris breakdown these BA rides.
@Jesusmakesmelovelife10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the camera over Chris' right shoulder. Gives a sense of the speed as well as possible through a computer screen. Great vid as normal. Thanks guys
@Gavin75610 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the 'over the shoulder' camera angle!
@mfba100010 жыл бұрын
In real world driving, the Porsche is faster. If the road is wet, even more so. But the McLaren looks great..
@motkawon10 жыл бұрын
I think it just doesn't... It looks faster but is isn't as stylish and elegant as the porsche! It's too spaceshuttle look alike to be a car that looks good on the road.. just looks kinda good in a proper race with other spaceshuttle supercars..
@JTSX110 жыл бұрын
Tom Nowak I don't know, the Porsche looks like every other Porsche from the last 15 years with minor style updates; the McLaren looks like a proper super car and sounds great.
@motkawon10 жыл бұрын
Never change a running system :D It's allright if you like it more than I do but just saying it's too fancy and less elegant for me... impressive jet but not pretty
@JTSX110 жыл бұрын
Tom Nowak True: I would love to own and drive a GT, but I doubt people are giving those up for cheap :) I'm actually a huge fan of the Cayman S, which is probably more in my financial comfort zone at this point...the McLaren and Turbo S are reserved for youtube fantasies :D
@galetinm4 жыл бұрын
@@JTSX1 doesn't sound that great.
@MrXyborg10 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way I like to see Chris Harris! Informative and yet fun. These are the reviews I would turn to were I to actually buy a supercar / proper sports car.
@Good.YouTube.reviewer10 жыл бұрын
I'm very intensive cars fan viewer, but i couldn't see anyone can drive a car confidently same like you.... I like everything in your briefing way.. Keep it up
@zx9mic10 жыл бұрын
this guy is my favorite car camparo guy by far...hands down. he should get a prime time show,..he's that good and marketable.
@venivelovici10 жыл бұрын
I think more people would enjoy him with more exposure, but I wouldn't be able to watch as I only have interwebs, no cable TV. :(
@RobbieKhan10 жыл бұрын
To me the 991 looks more masculine whereas the curvy style of the 12c makes it look a little more cute instead of mean and angry. I'd pick the Turbo all day long if I had that kind of money, especially in the UK.
@MrXmoda10 жыл бұрын
you are stupid then
@MultiSaffran10 жыл бұрын
It's a 911 but whatever.
@Bacavoit10 жыл бұрын
MultiSaffran It is a 911 but the model is 991.
@RobbieKhan10 жыл бұрын
MultiSaffran I would suggest becoming familiar with the model designation.
@ChromeWrapz10 жыл бұрын
MultiSaffran lol dumbass.
@kn767110 жыл бұрын
Nice driving and comparison Chris, and kudos to the engineers that put this great video together as well. Looking forward to the next video.
@SilverStackers10 жыл бұрын
behind the shoulder view is great! NEED MORE!
@TimWepunkt10 жыл бұрын
Finally! I´ve been refreshing over and over again..
@Dombowerphoto10 жыл бұрын
You guys totally own car reviews on KZfaq!
@askaribr110 жыл бұрын
أنا أشهد.........Absolutely right
@cdizogg10 жыл бұрын
i could listen and watch chris harris talk and drive cars all day. Brilliant
@nagnetto1410 жыл бұрын
"tire slayer"...chris harris you never cease to amaze me
@gweflj8 жыл бұрын
And here we are a couple of years on and McLaren are making cars that nobody else can compete with.
@Sheeshening10 жыл бұрын
The advantage of the porsche over any other sportscar is its everyday usebility. Its easy to service (doesnt even need a lot), doesnt mind snow and rain, has relatively high mpg, the most luxury extras (sound system, cooled seats etc.) and a alot of space - 2+2 seater with a good trunk
@Rumpleforeskiiin10 жыл бұрын
very true. My mother owns a 911, the 997 model and she uses it everyday. They're comfortable enough when you want them to be but are also incredible performance machines when you want them to be.
@pascalmpower794410 жыл бұрын
DerKesekuchen In this video yes, but all GT, I think GTR way way better in reliable. Cheaper, quicker, faster, more tech and stable.
@tattude19749 жыл бұрын
Like Chris said, the 12C is a more comfortable street car... McLaren is known for their daily drivability... I would much rather have the 650S due to its impressive abilities both on track and street...very very few cars can compare.
@pascalmpower79449 жыл бұрын
There's 3 damping mode in the 12C. However, u need to go for the siffest setting for fast lap time. For me, I'll pick the GTR Nismo. easy physics.
@ryanroe710 жыл бұрын
Simply the best automotive journalist out there.
@JohnDoe-up9du10 жыл бұрын
Another great video Mr. Harris, like the electric Dryson, the Ferrari F-40...etc. Happy New Year for you & the Drive team all .
@polentaonthefloor9 жыл бұрын
2:45: I love that confidence. *Too ashamed to reveal their lap time around Nurburgring*
@SEECORIYADH9 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 3.2 seconds for the 991 Porche Turbo S ??? I guess that's why the Mclaren won in Harris Drag Race. My times are around 2.8 - 2.9 seconds 0-60 mph for the Porsche Turbo S when in Launch control mode. I know because I own one. I wonder why he didn't make a track comparison. Maybe its because hmmm I guess the Mclaren would have no chance against the Porsche. Seems to me that this video does not give neither an accurate nor comprehensive comparison.
@Pete7629 жыл бұрын
Kareem Al-Amoudi if someone gave me that mclaren I would sell it to buy the porsche... it is just nicer and better
@Evan-McM9 жыл бұрын
Kareem Al-Amoudi That surface always produces shit numbers for cars...did you hear the 12C 0-60 he got? 3.7 seconds. Even those cars can do it in about 3 flat on a good sticky surface. The Turbo S on a proper surface is like 2.6. The McLaren will always pull up top though due to more hp.
@xgelmirx9 жыл бұрын
Kareem Al-Amoudi The McLaren would have no chance on track? Please, you complain about accuracy but I think you're prejudged because you own a Turbo S. They're both brilliant machines, but the Turbo S is more of a GT car than the McLaren. The McLaren is lighter and more powerful. More track focused. The Turbo S isn't build to race on racetracks, Porsche make the GT3 (RS) for that.
@qwertyuiop12321232129 жыл бұрын
xgelmirx Absolutely. The whole comparison is kind of off to me. The Porsche is a (slightly) low-key GT car that you can drive around and not have people taking pictures of you that also is delightful on a track day with the buddies. The 12C and now the 560C.570S/650S are about looking exotic and going really really fast on the road and the track, but they aren't made for long relaxing drives like the Porsche is. I may be biased because I own the Turbo S, but I know I bought it because it is a joy to live with all the time. Now I just need to find a lightly used Cayman GT4 at a good price that can sit in the track garage!
@MrDrunkenMoose9 жыл бұрын
+xgelmirx and still it brutally beats the 458 speciale on a twisty track. So even if less focused it would murder the 12c on many tracks.
@ariba12110 жыл бұрын
Over the shoulder view is AWESOME!!!
@justinalvares10 жыл бұрын
Always amazing watching Chris drive! Awesome video!
@hamzah5108 жыл бұрын
Some people are so thick. They assume because the Porsche is quicker from 0-60mph it MUST also be quicker from 0-200mph (which is the speed they reached in the race) . The Mclaren is 300kg lighter and has much more power. The Porsche never stood a chance against that Mclaren over a long distance (like the one in the race). But, the Turbo did win from 0-120 mph (like it should've done). There was no cheating in that race.
@gmansplit7 жыл бұрын
And realistically, 120 is all you are ever going to hit on public roads. So I think in practice, the 911 is faster.
@simonsuccessstepsys10 жыл бұрын
Love the video! Id choose the 911 Everyday of the week. Yes the McLaren is faster (only just) however the 911 is an Icon (Plus 40K cheaper)
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
Both are cool I would get a base 4s and a second hand McLaren for me
@shamwow7010 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris on cars has been stellar lately, just what we've been lookin for.
@rslomski0810 жыл бұрын
Loved the over the shoulder view. More of that!!!
@JoaquimBamberg10 жыл бұрын
This guy has one of the best jobs in the whole world.
@davidmitchell563810 жыл бұрын
AND he's one of the best Guy in the world (if not the best of them all??)
@janrichter79658 жыл бұрын
Chris, did you use the launch control with the 911 in the drag race? It's amazing how the 911 keeps up with the McLaren despite the huge power disadvantage
@ThisIsMTH10 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video Chris! And it's not even started yet!
@MrThiago250810 жыл бұрын
The last slow mo shots, just perfect
@ADVRaiderKTM10 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always! Just curious, how can Drive afford to make such high quality videos? Do you guys have a magazine? Sell merchandise? or do manufacturers pay to display their cars? Thanks!
@rationalconscience9 жыл бұрын
911 991 turbo S: $150k Mclaren mp4: $232k The real competitor for the MP4-12C is the 991 GT2(RS), which would be about 220 kg lighter (1460kg) and 90hp stronger (650hp).
@Rick20101009 жыл бұрын
rationalconscience Or 918 watch?v=OBuIQRC4VRw
@TheYouFail9 жыл бұрын
When the 991 GT2(RS) comes along, it will murder alot of supercars.
@Rick20101009 жыл бұрын
John Smith It is a 991 GT3 RS 4.0, The GT2 production is terminated. watch?v=-hTLk1rU_ZI Only the 911/991 RSR is faster watch?v=5EeUqO2hySs
@Sambysaurus9 жыл бұрын
John Smith I don't want to say this but i really don't think they will make one, they just have never been as good as a GT3. But i would like to see them try to make a new GT2/RS.
@Rick20101009 жыл бұрын
Club Bmw Amg Depends on you country and taxes (VAT). In the US a 911 Turbo S cost ca. $ 185 grand and the S version has the most features basicaly included. Burmester Sound System would be extra. PDK, SPC. etc. is all serial.
@neilmcmahon10 жыл бұрын
Awesome driving and journalism yet again Chris, but we must give credit to the sublime camera work too... Incredible ! Love that T-shirt too lol.
@J0lker10 жыл бұрын
And now it turned out to be the best day of this year. 911 Turbo S Vs. 12c. Chris Harris. I'm busy for 15 minutes. Thanks.
@rousseau32710 жыл бұрын
I think a comparison between the R8 V10 Plus and the 991 Turbo S would have been more interesting to watch, as the outcome of this video was a bit obvious in my opinion. Or maybe even one between the 12C and the 991 GT2 in the future.
@dmczyk19 жыл бұрын
The style of the mclaren looks like a Ferrari 360, not too creative.
@wezhawes33599 жыл бұрын
In a video containing the 911?? The car which has looked the same since the day it was born! Not to mention how all Porsche models look broadly the same. There is no one more lazy than Porsche's design department.
@f0gGenx9 жыл бұрын
The 360 wasn't that bad.. the challenge stradale is sexy in black..
@Gamez4eveR9 жыл бұрын
Wez Hawes It's a timeless design that keeps getting more modern and stylish. Got a problem with that?
@TXSTYLE75010 жыл бұрын
That was a superb review! Well done my friend... Well done.
@lawrencethompson965110 жыл бұрын
I love the over the shoulder behind the head shoots, really shows how he steers the car and what line he chooses, gives me great visual of how the car behaves and really tell me how fast Chris H. is going....damme
@sandrarios24969 жыл бұрын
I think all the new 991 911s are pretty good looking, especially from the rear. And especially the GT3, looks and performance-wise. It has a naturally aspirated 3.8L 6 making 475 hp! It's like whaaaat? And the PDK in that car has the stick fixed, and now it shifts like a proper sequential 'box. Pull back for an upshift and push forward for a downshift. And the super cool feature where pulling back on both paddles at the same time is like putting the clutch in, and letting go is like dropping the clutch, unlike on every other paddle shift car where doing that would just put the car in neutral. I am surprised more car makers didn't think of making the simple change (probably with the electronics) to enable their cars to do the same thing. And the 12C is well, the 12C. Amazing when it first came out, but quickly got overshadowed by the 650R and of course the P1 if someone has that kind of cash to invest in such a car that is bound to appreciate in value. But I doubt anyone on here would get out of a 12C after a drive and not have a smile on their face and talk about how much fun it was. But McLAREN!!! Please put a proper mechanical or clutch-type limited slip in your cars. I know about the whole individual braking of the inside rear-wheel to give a limited slip effect, but if you do track days at tracks with predominantly right hand corners, the pads and ceramic brakes on the right rear are going to wear out way quicker than the lefts. Just go with a proper limited slip diff and awesome torque vectoring you have and call it a day. No worries about uneven pad and ceramic rotor wear. Just do it McLaren. If any McLaren worker reads this, which I doubt they will, tell your boss about it and have them go up the chain all the way to Ron Dennis and let him know that I and many I've spoken with would prefer a proper limited slip diff over the individual rear braking system.
@whereisbenzo9 жыл бұрын
I never knew that about the Turbo S's transmission.
@sandrarios24969 жыл бұрын
Alvin Rohani It's actually not in the Turbo S. They only made the PDK tweaks in the GT3.
@wojiaobill10 жыл бұрын
Harris has the best job in the world
@abellopes1510 жыл бұрын
the Mclaren in red, with the black special wheels and the exhaust valves open is quite a machine!
@moahdriven10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Also, love the watch, Mr. Harris.
@M17109 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Porsche 911 Turbo S with 200kg less in weight. That thing would murder the 12c.
@Modelo1189 жыл бұрын
Imagine the 12c with 200kg's less and we're back to square one. You just can't think like that as it is what it is! I love the Porsche and to 120 mph it is still the king of the road!
@scratchy9969 жыл бұрын
M1710 That would be a 911 GT2.
@Modelo1189 жыл бұрын
He's on about the 911 in this clip which is the 991! But the 991 GT2 doesn't exist yet!
@scratchy9969 жыл бұрын
Modelo Super he said "imagine". Anyway, the rumour is that Porsche will not make a new GT2/GT2 RS because they are working on a mid engine car slotted below the 918, a 918 light, if you will.
@Dmach589 жыл бұрын
M1710 imagine a porsche 911 turbo S with 1000hp. That thing would murder the 12c
@papoopa58009 жыл бұрын
The drag race is bullshit. The Turbo S is one of the fastest cars from 0-60. Well, certainly faster than the 12C.
@Kheops639 жыл бұрын
+papoopa5800: every test show it does a 0/60 in 2.6 or 2.7s......
@chicken49678 жыл бұрын
Kheops63 Yep
@blakefelice66258 жыл бұрын
+papoopa5800 A drag race is a 1/4 mile...not 0-60.
@sexyitalian8918 жыл бұрын
+Blake Felice They didn't use LC for this race, it would have put the smackdown if it did.
@AsGoodAsGrass-Official8 жыл бұрын
+sexyitalian891 You can hear they are using launch control. Would have been the same result if they didn't anyway
@ozymaandias10 жыл бұрын
Love to hear this guy talk about cars while driving.
@JettTrudeau10 жыл бұрын
these reviews are so great. Thank you, Chris Harris, for making the best car reviews.
@Pete76210 жыл бұрын
mclaren headstart or is it just me?
@bellator1110 жыл бұрын
terder123 Then you're willfully blind because the McLaren clearly jumped the start.
@capncrunch185610 жыл бұрын
bellator11 I agree
@noseonscent19356 жыл бұрын
It absolutely got a tiny head start.
@projectr24516 жыл бұрын
It did get a head start but the Porsche almost instantly caught up. If they started at the same time, the Porsche still would’ve been overtaken, considering the gap.
@George-zo4hc5 жыл бұрын
Don't matter, Mclaren would've had that Porsche any day (except for on the street because 4wd rules over any 2wd supercar imo)
@BigUriel10 жыл бұрын
The magazines get tuned 458s disguised as stock cars.
@sherman321110 жыл бұрын
Standard Ferrari practice. Whereas German cars are generally underrated from the factory, no special cars required for testing.
@opmike34310 жыл бұрын
sherman3211 Actually, this is a practice that goes all the way back to at least the 60's, and Ferrari isn't the only one doing it.
@BigUriel10 жыл бұрын
opmike343 Probably not but Ferrari are the worst case of it. In some cases they won't even allow you to test their car at a track without first sending a team of engineers to fine-tune the car to that particular course at that particular day. Chris Harris himself was "banned" by Ferrari (they wouldn't supply him with any cars and they forbid magazines they send cars to from letting him drive them) because he wouldn't keep quiet about this.
@ibtm10 жыл бұрын
Chris--Great video!!! I just bought a 2014 Turbo S in Guards Red!!! Had a 2009 Merci but it drew to much of a crowd--fun the first year--then a pain the 2nd year! ;-) ---love the understated but lightning fast Turbo S!!! Get in 3/1/14--Psyched--keep the videos coming!!!
@swsschz10 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris as always is amazing... By far my favorite!
@slabsides110 жыл бұрын
The Porsche's interior looks like a much richer environment to live in on a daily basis. Plus, I need the all wheel drive to get to the ski slopes:)
@SeaOfMadness10 жыл бұрын
That dull grey doesn't do it any favours though. Beautiful interior let down by a bit of a dull colour, IMHO. Still love the 911 so much.
@jakehopt10 жыл бұрын
RectoBold I like the grey :/ I think it's inviting and something that I'd like to sit in every day
@58366094 жыл бұрын
It's like comparing the aluminium road bike to a carbon one...they are just in different leagues !!
@robertingvarsson485110 жыл бұрын
Love the new camera view "behind the steering wheel"... !!!
@subiedan10 жыл бұрын
Really like the over the shoulder view hope to see more of that.
@Dgannt10 жыл бұрын
He said it. People spending this kind of money for a super car do it for the drama and not just the numbers. And that is why MP412C lost to 458. It was not the numbers but how much more elegant and beautiful 458 was and the drama it offered in form, sound and function. 12C in comparison offered only function. And the fact of not being able to turn of the nannies in 12C broadcasted all over dug a hole for 12C that it never recovered from. And McLaren is doing the same mistake with P1.
@rdrg736210 жыл бұрын
No lap time at Anglesey?
@realfuzzhead10 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris is the best car reviewer, the combination of you talking about these cars while busting a monster drift is very entertaining
@jjuhring110 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, Chris. Possibly your best yet!
@UebertreibenChannel110 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want a Turbo S review as well :(
@PatrickSavalle10 жыл бұрын
No matter how much power this Porsche has, no matter how good looking it is, or what else, at 1600+ kg it is not the real deal. They should build a Cayman Turbo.
@markr973010 жыл бұрын
How about a Cayman GT3 ?
@PatrickSavalle10 жыл бұрын
Cayman is also much butter looking imho.
@nbrigdan10 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the cayman is just too ugly, but you can get a turbo version from TPC racing. Their stage 3 kit, which is about 15K in parts, less if you supply your own headers and boost controller, makes about 505-515 BHP in a Cayman S or Boxster S with the 3.4L engine. That thing whoops Z06s and C63s on a track.
@PatrickSavalle10 жыл бұрын
I used to drive the Nordschleiffe almost every weekend, a friend of mine had a Boxster with a 996 GT3 engine. That was quite an impressive car :) I believe it would fit without much trouble.
@nbrigdan10 жыл бұрын
***** My personal favourite is the people who got screwed by porsche because of the problem with the engine and swapped it for an LS motor. That would be a fun car.
@michaelac9310 жыл бұрын
thank you so much ... i been asking for this comparison along time in alot of car channel.. thank you that why you are my favorite .. good job.. like always.
@EricVellekoop7 жыл бұрын
Tire SSLLAAYYEERR!!! That shirt is fantastic!
@niacal4nia10 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a car that's does a quicker 0-120mph because 196 mph in California is not going to be fun. The Porsche is a daily driver and won't breakdown like a typical British car.
@stevielowe285310 жыл бұрын
You will find that a 'typical British car' won't breakdown them days are long long gone like many other manufacturers. The mclaren eats the porsche
@niacal4nia10 жыл бұрын
Stephen Lowe That's because McLaren uses a German Mercedes engine and will switch to Honda in the future. Have you ever wondered why every car company compare their cars to Porsche. Because there is no substitute. My cousin 2014 Jaguar FX with less than 2000 miles has been to the dealer 4 times due to stalling and check engine light.
@stevielowe285310 жыл бұрын
One car going back to the dealership means nothing.. My mates 3 series coupe went back to the dealership several times with the same problem.. Does that mean bmws have reliability issues? Of course not
@stevielowe285310 жыл бұрын
Oh and the engine is built in Sussex.. UK!
@niacal4nia10 жыл бұрын
Stephen Lowe 24 hour LeMans history shows Porsche followed by Audi with the most wins. Please google McLarenand read about the Mercedes engine which is modified in Sussex.
@surewin177310 жыл бұрын
Aww I wanted to see the lap times on Anglesey.
@rockdfunk10 жыл бұрын
that over the shoulder shot is amazing
@sabotshell10 жыл бұрын
Amazingly beautiful video as always Chris. Keep using the behind the right shoulder cam when possible! Really makes you feel like you're there.
@davide458italia10 жыл бұрын
go Chris Harris, GOOO!!
@brocky10 жыл бұрын
Saw "Chris Harris" on the title and so I clicked. He could review a golf cart and I will still watch.
@channel359710 жыл бұрын
Anglesey circuit is a beautiful track . Chris Harris does the job of reviewing cars on KZfaq. He is a heck of a driver as well. Keep up the good work Chris.
@jayf680610 жыл бұрын
Two amazing automobiles. I can only read/gather information on them here and there. Never owned one, one day hope to own a Porsche. But I would love to be a friend of some on that gets to test drive or own either. *shrugs* I may have mid life crisis soon...47 this year, I think a "car" would be a lot cheaper than another woman. Thanks for this up load!
@branot8910 жыл бұрын
Mclaren is a supercar, 911 is a streched version of VW Beetle
@stevielowe285310 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with that
@dobbins255010 жыл бұрын
Might be the most absurd, turd-bucket, gutless, thoughtless, POS comment ever on youtube.
@Kneedragon19629 жыл бұрын
"Mclaren is a supercar, 911 is a streched version of VW Beetle" That is true, but also slightly misleading. The Porsche is very quick, in the real world, most of the time, it's as quick as the Mac or even faster. But the Porsche is a usable every-day car - the Mac is not - despite Chris insisting otherwise. Read you own sentence back, but holding the telescope the other way. Much of the time, a stretched VW Beetle is a more practical, capable, useable car than an escaped formula car, or an LMP1 class sportscar. I admit, there is something desirable about the Mac the 911 will never have, but which one would you rather drive up an 8 level carpark? Which one would you rather drive over traffic calming? If you found yourself trapped facing a mile of roadworks and gravel on the freeway, which one would you rather have? I think at times, a stretched Beetle (with a 600ish hp eng) and 4wd is a much better combination.
@branot899 жыл бұрын
Kneedragon1962 I didn't mean that literally. But, McLaren is way more exclusive and head turner
@Kneedragon19629 жыл бұрын
branot89 That's a fair call. But as Chris points out, the prices are not that different, and nor are the performance numbers. You could make a similar comparison between the 911T and any high end mid engined exotic. The 911 stacks up pretty well against all of them. Dr Ferdinand Porsche designed the mid engined Auto Union Grand Prix car in about 1930 / 31. In about 36 ~ 7 Hitler (& others) bothered him to get involved with the 'People's Car', for which he borrowed from the layout and concepts he'd built into the Auto Union. He didn't design the Beetle single handed, but he had a big input into it, and the layout and suspension design were clearly taken from the GP car. Ok, now show me any other current production car, let alone one of the fastest, most capable and desirable - not to mention immediately recognisable cars in the world, that can date their linage back to 1931. None of the mid engined cars can.
@macarows401410 жыл бұрын
I dont care for 12c, Give me full 20min review of 991 Turbo S :p
@HeavensGremlin10 жыл бұрын
That's probably because you drive an X-Box and are 8 years old..!
@jm04895 жыл бұрын
HeavensGremlin, if I’m not mistaken, the 12C is uglier, more childish and generally a really fast LEGO Mock his maturity, please.
@AfonsodaMataSlam10 жыл бұрын
Great episode! And the videography, man Neil is just killing it! :D
@korani8510 жыл бұрын
Chris harris... you are the best car reviewer out there! love ur videos! keep them coming!
@FIFAracer10 жыл бұрын
The McLaren started much to early!
@SeaOfMadness10 жыл бұрын
I think it was immaterial. The McLaren had so much on it anyway that it would have needed a bigger head start than it got to win.
@rousseau32710 жыл бұрын
To be honest, in a 1/4 mile the 911 may be able to take it with launch control, but at the length they're running in the video, the Mclaren is going to take it 10 times out of 10.
@moritz13026 жыл бұрын
The mclaren wouldve won anyways
@reeceengineering356010 жыл бұрын
Drag race the porsche with overboost
@stevesmitherman57575 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Good job,thanks.
@DDGB0810 жыл бұрын
Great comparison of the everyday supercars. Love it.
@thatabu10 жыл бұрын
12:15 Anyone noticed how the Porsche started to come back?
@opmike34310 жыл бұрын
It didn't so much "start to come back" as it stopped falling behind. It pretty much maintained the gap as the speeds increased which is pretty interesting considering it's down on power.
@thatabu10 жыл бұрын
opmike343 It started to close the gap actually if you watch closely.
@MarkHol2310 жыл бұрын
He Jumped start anyway..
@morrarN10 жыл бұрын
MarkHol23 Indeed.
@motkawon10 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks a bit like it does but not sure if it does..
@maximilianlindner10 жыл бұрын
I initially wanted a post a comment which sounded like "the drag race wasn't fair...etc.". Now I looked up the specs for both cars (both do 0-62 mls in 3.0 s AWD vs. RWD) and all that is left is the question: How the fuck did McLaren manage to build such a car? I'm stunned btw...
@MrAndrewynwa110 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! Keep them coming please.
@ZWortek10 жыл бұрын
That almost POV angle from above his right shoulder was incredible.
@simone.87167 жыл бұрын
That drag race is a little weird... usually the porsche is capable of doing 60 in 2.6 sec and 100 in about 6.2 sec on a dry surface like this... I don't really get it
@carlitoxb1107 жыл бұрын
it's a British review and mclaren is British so.....
@gmansplit7 жыл бұрын
And that is what happened. The 911 was winning till about 120 mph, when the McLaren's superior power and RWD made it go ahead.
@Mazotheman10 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the 991 GT2 and GT2RS.
@yoyoman974710 жыл бұрын
There is a big chance the GT2 wont come
@rousseau32710 жыл бұрын
yoyoman9747 Really? Where did you get that information from? Just curious, because the GT2 and the GT3 RS was seen testing in San Francisco.
@yoyoman974710 жыл бұрын
You sure? Do you mean the Nurburgring. I haven't heard of any testing at SA. There was a car looking like a 991 GT2 seen at the Nurburgring. However because of the exhaust arrangement which is different from normal turbo arrangement it is suspected that it is a GT3RS with the fake scoops on the rear wings.
@rousseau32710 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are articles regarding sightings of the GT2 and GT3RS without any camouflage.
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
@@rousseau327 gt2 doesn't exist
@JETWAKE10 жыл бұрын
Bravo Chris Harris! You are the best driver and relate to driving in the real world. I like both of these vehicles, but the Porsche 911 Turbo S could be driven almost anywhere, in any weather and still bring you safely back home with a big smile.
@rippinonap110 жыл бұрын
Watching Chris Harris slide a car is like watching the worlds loudest and smokiest ballet. I love it. He drives these cars exactly as I would