What are your thoughts on daily driving a manual 991.1? I have 3 kids and I would like to drive them to school everyday in it. If that's not possible... I'll just use my Audi Q7

@@williamhickerson7673 991‘s back seats are usable; it's much bigger than some may think.

Bro I wanna buy a .1 GTS or .2 C2S and idk do I get the faster better handling car or the one that gives me pure joy driving canyons

Yeah 991.2 lost all the essential sound and they didn't even mention it! What's the point of this video - just to show two shiny cars with picturesque nature in the background and make couple of silly jokes in front of them??

We mentioned it quite extensively in the magazine, Max. Sorry our free service on KZfaq isn't to your satisfaction.

And of course that's why every single 911 in the data file section of the magazine has a five star rating - oh, wait a minute…

Lee Sibley First, this is like an elephant in the room, and it's rather strange not to mention it in this "vs" video! Second, your KZfaq service is far from free, as it is a direct advertisment of your publishing brand and magazines. Not that there is anything wrong with it, just don't call it free please.

It's cost you nothing to watch our video so it is quite obviously free - and we're not going to put all our comment and content on a free service. If you want the most in-depth assessment of the 911 anywhere in the world you'll find it in Total 911 magazine (991.1 v 991.2 is issue 137). In the meantime, 35k views and counting, thanks!

+Denis Leith yeah I'm already looking at nissan gtr or zl1 2017 cheaper faster and almost as good handeling.

+Denis Leith Lol, i get it. i currently have a cayman gts and I'm waiting to see the 991.2 911 gts or gt3 991.2 when they come out. i may be in the market to place an order but only if it's n/a in a porsche, no turbos. if 911s are turbos, than I'll take a nissan gtr or a zl1 ;).

Good for you, a little jealous but 8 days ago I bought a BMW 328i and could not agree more on the turbo engines, EXCELLENT !

my wife has a 428i couldn't agree more fun car with more than enough power as a daily.

does your car have chrono and sport exhaust?

@@bak2mb I have gone through a GT3 RS and two Turbos since this comment. But yes on the chrono and no on the exhaust.

I feel sorry for your brother.

Dag Johnsen he prefers a slower car?

Yes, but way more passion and drama

Slower but more fun to drive

Yes Sir :-)

Sound is 80% of the driving experience! Kill the sound and u kill 80% of the experience!

+Ahmet Yasar Agree totally.

couldn't disagree more and if it's 80% of driving experience why don't you get a corolla and put a big ass muffler on it hahaha

+Chris Raczynski clearly u have never driven a 991.1... If u want to compare it to a Toyota...

+Forester Wong i was not comparing them i think you missed the point. I was making that extreme "comparison" as you say to show that im ammused by the sound crowd. Having said that I admit I have not driven a 911. I'm a new BMW 328i owner for the record, so I'm becoming very familiar with turbo motors and their benefits and shortcomings (sound is no one of them for me).

This is very timely. I have a stunning 992C2S PDK however I'm thinking of doing the same, swapping to a naturally aspirated 991.1 C2S. I'd love a manual but there's so few of them around. Do you miss any of the modern touches of the 992? I'm looking for something to drive and enjoy.

997 GTS then.

thefridgeman nah , I prefer 991

991.2 carrera 4gts

Mr Jack ... does your front wheel steering stutters when you turn the steering wheel all the way to right or left at low speed fwd and reverse. mine makes that noise when I'm backing out from the drive way onto street making hard turns and the noise goes away when I straighten out the wheels. I'm wondering if thats normal coming from electric assist.

Mr Jack , hi mr Jack if seen in several vlogs this is a normal thing there is no issues what so ever.. Just the size of tyres

@@johnwhodat8135 it is normal.

What made u choose .1 over .2 I’m between a .1 GTS and a .2 C2S I’m stuck right now is the best option to test drive them

@@Mrhappy33664 Considering I bought my 991.1 GTS in 2018 when for the same money (more on that below) I could have bought a new 991.2 GTS, it pretty well tells you that I knew what I wanted. I wanted a naturally aspirated 911 much like my 993. I did not want turbos or a PDK. That said, I have driven the 992 C2S and C4S on the track with PDK and they are all very nice...on the track, but it is not a vehicle I would want as my own for back roads driving. The hit you in your butt with a turbo and the PDK would wear thin on me in no time and yes, I know the advantages of a turbo coming from the aviation world. I bought my 991.1 GTS with a mere 98 miles (157 km) on it when it was just over 3 years old and it came with $45,620 in mostly performance factory options. Yes it was expensive and I could easily have bought a new 991.2 GTS for that money. Try to find a used vehicle with only one very particular owner and then keep it. I can never understand why Porsche owners flip their cars so often.

Sorry late comment - but given its the last NA 911, will you be keeping it long term as an investment?

snap crackle pop...love it.

Do you still have it?

I want to drive angles crest sometimes but mostly a daily and occasional 3 hour drives. I might slide it rarely.

Giorgio Kradjian But is it better as in funner?

@@mobst4r1 I am an Alfa guy and this is my first Porsche. With sport exhaust the sound is insane and very entertaining. Are you looking to buy one?

got the base as well w/ chrono and sport exhaust!!! cant stop smiling😅

+John McDermott The other major reason was the Chinese market. anything over 3.0L engine has extra taxes down there.

Nobody cares

+Nency Joujoukaka you know, i think your right ;).

+Denis Leith Lol, yeah they want you to buy it, but the sound differences are immense. i believe the 991.2 911 is faster, handels better with rear wheel steering and has turbos but doesn't that fundamentally change what the 911 edginess was all about. Much like the theoretical bull in a china shop, lamborghini. The porsches where famously different and difficult to get right but when you did it was magic. The 991.1 was a real game changer, new motor, better handeling, better sounding to me except for poor steering feel. but now, turbo-ing every 911 except a few is a mistake or a cold money grab calculation. i believe it's a money grab, could be wrong though. Think about it, more expensive to fix and who is supplying the turbos? China? Either way it's guaranteed to go down and take forever to get parts and cost more to repair or replace, on top of that, repairs to the flat 3.0 engine. Currently to replace a 3.4 flat 6 in a 911 is over 15k unless it's a rebuild, then add in labor. this shows me that you should keep your n/a porsches 911s, boxters/caymans their going to be worth alot more when you can no longer buy one, in gt3 or any other form. the problem i have with the change was that it was unnecessary, all those great motor, sad :'(.

+TheCa007 Good post!

i just test drive both gen 1 and 2 both base model. Gen 2 is far more superior.

Wade H a better comparison would’ve been the 991.2 base vs 991.1 S

why do you ask? these clowns would say anything to keep on borrowing cars

good luck, get yourself a ladyboy

How is this the case? Just how

991.1 - naturally aspirated 991.2 - turbo Plus minor changes in design and aesthetics.

One is red, the other is white...;-)

+Denis Leith interesting. I feel they too care of many quirks that irked me about the .1

zkalireza which quirks exactly your talking about ?

Bours911 for starters, when in Drive at a low rpm and in sport plus, floor the throttle, the clutch engagement is more aggressive on the .2. Also, when full throttle upshifting in sport plus in the .2 there is a nice thud rather than a lurch forward in the .1. Then there is the + and - orientation of the PDK center console selector which is now correct in the .2 The sound symoser of the .1 had an ugly vacuume suction in the cabin that I could feel in my right ear drum. The .2 addressed it by putting two sound symposers that seem to cancel out this suction sensation of the ear drum. The steering on the .2 has much more fidelity than the .1 And much more...

zkalireza oh ok wow didnt know that very interesting man ! More feedback on steering in.2 ?

Zulu Alpha Which versions did you drive on the track.

Pandroix ok thanks, it looks so outdated though :D

If you can afford these cars, you can afford the fuel they need.

Possibly can. However even I still would like to know what the 3.0ltr is like for fuel to the old engine

Matthew Me too.

+Matthew The new one uses more fuel in real life.

lol

try it and wake up zombie man

It's always been like this with Porsche owners. The new car is always too soft and lacks [insert mechanical nostalgic technology] that the older car had. Porsche owners love to say "it's the last of the _____ cars"

This is very true. The thing that is different now, is that Porsche is forced by green politics to use turbo engines. Anyway I believe most people will like the gen. 2 car more. It is very usable and effortless, fantastic car. Still I have to say for myself, I like gen 1 much better because of the engine characteristics and sound. That is more important to me.

lol..agreed..

Gen 1 S is better than the Gen 2 - Lack of torque on the road is annoying..

With the Gen 2 you get a 911 that's much nicer to drive, yet faster, more efficient, has more power, handles better, looks better and you still get the classic 911 howl. What more do you want?

he who does not know, lives in an ignorant place called boring paradise

well it's not Indian red since that color doesn't exist .....and it's not Guards Red - which is the only red Porsche you should buy btw.

I guess it's a new trend now - to be boring as a pair of old shoes, so the car is not in your shadow.

That was also my opinion, but where will you repair Ferrari, and for how much?