that was never said when the 997 debuted, and the 997 was in fact the last one, the rest are tiny panameras with a 911 badge.

You're spot on :) Seems like people HATE the new model ... till they get one themselves :)

No sorry the 996 was pants

And in the end, the 993 was.

Correct. How quickly people forget and pine for the good ol’ days...

Cool, just buying my 2014 S this week.

I’m looking at a 2014 Turbo S with only 7500 miles, list price $155900. What do you think about this deal? Please let me know. Thank you very much.

@@binliu1335 did you get it???

2012 991.1 Carrera S cabriolet in the building!! 😃😃

@@JosephOjea316 yes, but not the 2014, I bought 2018 Turbo S with 18900 miles and paid 170k, I love it and did put almost 10k miles on it.

They are a great drive.. better than the Turbo for me!!

Thanks buddy.. 👍

Enjoy your 993! Had a 964 for years and loved it!!

Thank you!

Time saver, excellent content 😎

adrian baker I had a 997.2 and now have a 991.1, and you’re spot on. Will switch back to the 997.2 in due course. But my 4S is blindingly fast especially at the top end.

Totally agree

Sorry, a car with driver aides is not a real drivers car. The last real 911 was the 996 gt2 and a car that needed a good driver to perform. A car that has traction control isn't a real 911.

Samuel Leatt Cool yes indeed. 😎 FYI I switch mine off .... makes for a fun ride. My 964 is my favourite Porsche. Park it mostly during winter though.....no bad P car really.

@@livnthedream4457 I changed my 964 C2 for a 996 GT2. The engine is different but the handling and raw acceleration of the 996 gt2 far eclipses anything I have driven before. I believe there are only 6 996 gt2s registered in the UK at the moment.

It’s lighter than I would like but there was still enough feel coming though so you know what’s going on Mark!

You're a fucking liar.

Catherine Handley - why would you say that?

@@user-oj7en8xx3g Indeed - a weird reply...

Anyone is free to believe or not believe whatever they like, but stating it like that is really poor form, and says more about the person saying it than the OP. FWIW I am on a few Facebook owner's groups with my 996, and the posts cover the full range from the very reserved to people who sound like caricatures. I think just about the only thing you can say for sure about Porsche owners is that you can't say anything for sure :)

​@@thejupiter2LoL - Just because I drive a 991 doesn't mean I have to hide my enthusiasm or speak like a boring old fart. Mine is not a dull silver, black or grey 'Surrey Set' Porsche - its a Guards Red 991.1, bedecked with Aerokit Cup spoilers, 20" wheels - and I bloody love it. Every journey is an adventure. And nothing sounds like a NA Porsche flat 6 at full chat :) - it sounds 'beast' - I know this because my 18 year old son told me.

Good point Dav and one i compels forgot to mention!

@@Number27 I actually was enquiring for myself! I might drop some money on a 996. I've seen both a 2 and 4 at the right money but wondered if there was a huge difference (the 4 is a little cheaper). Cheers bud ;-)

Have to say not tried a 991 C4 but unless driven hard I doubt the difference will be glaring.. see if you can drive a 4..

Test Drive Scotland - 991’s just feel so big. I had my 991 GTS for a matter of months, great car but just didn’t feel like a sports car in comparison to my previous 997’s more like a tourer - 997 last of the small 911’s......

@@simonboulton7554 yes agree with that I drove one on my channel but being used to a 981 I was aware of the size of the 997. Enjoyed it though was surprised the .2 was quieter than the .1.

I totally agree, small and light! Problem is modern crash legislation makes this very hard to achieve!

@@Number27 Alpine A110!!!!!

Yes.. was wondering what that bastard was up to!!

Sam Casamassa okaaaaay.... my fault for underestimating the vitriol of the KZfaq comments section. Carry on...

Sam Casamassa We’re cool, mate. A mate of mine here in Switzerland had his IMS let go on his 2000 Boxster wot he bought from new. He wagged his finger at me, a year or two later, so I passed on the 997.1 I had my eye on at the time. I’m now 6 years into Carreras and well aware that there’s a good IMS engine prevention engine fix available, and anyway a lot of pain can be avoided with a bit of due diligence up front. Soooo, I concede there’s a lot of emotion about on the topic, lots of hearsay, lots of naysayers and lots of ayesayers. My point wasn’t aimed to open up that old sore ‘cos most IMS-prone engines let go years ago, or had the IMS mod well before. And here in Zürich we’re up to our necks in 996s, 997.1s and any number of old shape Boxsters and Caymans. And I don’t see them at every street corner with steam coming out of their engine bays. So hopefully we can loudly agree that all 997s sound crap, all 996s are underrated because of that pair of headlights, 991.1s sound fabulous but have lost some of the charm, and 991.2 are satan’s breath and sound crap because of them turbos. If we agree on all lf that, then we should take the rest of the week off and binge watch KZfaq. Ric

True comment, the IMS bearing only existed in the problematic form from 996.1 through 996.2 to the 997.1. Note that both 996.1 and 997.1 have quite a low rate of failure, it was really only the 996.2 (facelift) which reached higher levels of failure, and even then, by now many of them have simply been replaced. I have read failure rates of 1%, 5%, 1%, but facts are hard to come by here. The basic recommendation is to replace it when you do the clutch, since the engine is open at the right place then. The 997.1 requires an engine split though. It isn't all that expensive to have done, and you can even go for a permanent fix, at a somewhat higher price. If you accept this, you will likely never have problems with it. The trouble is with the people who ignore it, out of ignorance or stubbornness. It really is a part which needs periodic replacement. I would not use that to recommend avoiding these cars though. Simply factor it into the cost equation and make your decision that way. The 996 is a fantastic car, smaller and lighter than the 997, and more analog as well. Fully worth owning, even if you have to replace the IMSB once in a while to be safe.

996 gt2 mk1 + 2 and turbo didn't suffer from that.

Samuel Leatt different engine, the Mezger racing engine in the GT3 and Turbos.

A look into this engine bay is more than disappointing.

😃😄😁 greetings from stressed and scared!

Yep, really tough filming outside of there is any breeze!

The debate will rage for as long as there are cars!! Thanks for watching!!

t1m *.2 😎👍🏼

Ha!! Interesting to see you bucking the trend on that one. Valid points..

The new one is fatter, heavier and has more power. I dunno.

NO! in the UK it's spelt aluminium and pronounced as such - only north america is it aluminum