Portal 2: Creating a Sequel to a Game That Doesn't Need One

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7 жыл бұрын

In this GDC 2012 talk, Valve's Erik Wolpaw and Chet Faliszek (not shown, but they're there -- promise!) discuss how Valve created Portal 2, the sequel to the beloved game nobody thought needed a sequel. The talk covers the entire process from inception to the completion and reception of the game.
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@AlexeyRomaniouk
@AlexeyRomaniouk 7 жыл бұрын
Half Life 2: Not creating a sequel to a game that needs one
@Sillssa
@Sillssa 7 жыл бұрын
They are making it. Isnt it pretty obvious already.
@deltax930
@deltax930 7 жыл бұрын
lol, so obvious, they just need that full 10 years of development to make it good
@bezrodnyigor
@bezrodnyigor 7 жыл бұрын
Well, that "we don't do long design documents" stuff is certainly good for creativity but in terms of the production cycle... yes, they do need that 10 years (which is almost up by the way, Ep2 came out in 2007).
@neglesaks
@neglesaks 7 жыл бұрын
Never too late to cancel it!
@thetimelords911
@thetimelords911 7 жыл бұрын
The last Half-Life writer at valve recently left. Could this mean the story script is all wrapped up and ready to be produced into a full game? Or has all hope been lost?
@mattlarghi
@mattlarghi 7 жыл бұрын
The lost "joke endings" thing, they almost made Stanley Parable and Portal 2 at the same time.
@lereff1382
@lereff1382 7 жыл бұрын
Stanley Parable runs on the Portal 2 branch of the Source Engine. COINCIDENCE?
@mrtannzr
@mrtannzr 7 жыл бұрын
remember that achievement "pit boss"? that's probably a left over.
@Mega-Brick
@Mega-Brick 7 жыл бұрын
There's also the achievement for intentionally going into GLaDOS' trap. That might be another left-over from that.
@wtfpwnz0red
@wtfpwnz0red 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have creamed myself
@Howlingburd19
@Howlingburd19 2 жыл бұрын
The Portal 2 DLC ending is priceless lmao
@super_ponton9049
@super_ponton9049 7 жыл бұрын
I could spend all day listening about Portal development. It's really impressive how polished these 2 games are.
@lereff1382
@lereff1382 7 жыл бұрын
"Shame portal wasn't their idea, and they can't come up with anything original these days." The only "original" Valve titles are Half-Life and Ricochet. Why "these days"? And what's bad about Portal not being their idea?
@UberMun
@UberMun 7 жыл бұрын
they *HIRED* the original creators of those ideas. Therefore giving them jobs and letting them make the game that they wanted. What are you trying to say??
@brbbiobreak
@brbbiobreak 7 жыл бұрын
I especially like the physics band aids.
@WymanandBrad
@WymanandBrad 7 жыл бұрын
Super_Ponton he says axiomatic soooooo much lol
@Mathignihilcehk
@Mathignihilcehk 6 жыл бұрын
"no new ideas in the company, so he hired them" That's a fine way to do business. What? They are giving money to good developers to make games that end up good... how is that a problem? The problem with Valve now, is they are drunk on money from Steam. They don't want to hire good ideas and makes games off of them. They are "Valve. We used to make games. Now, we make money."
@Evbuscus1
@Evbuscus1 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Chell saying yes at the end legitimately gave me chills. Shitty end to the game but what a cool scene.
@fieldrequired283
@fieldrequired283 2 жыл бұрын
It feels really abrupt as a sudden ending to the game, but anything less wouldn't do Chell's voice reveal justice. The game wants to carry on a little longer to wrap things up, but as long as that's the ending, it can't without defeating the power of the moment. I can see why they cut it, even though I really loved the way the scene played out.
@MGBYST
@MGBYST 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to how valve develops their games is so refreshing in light of modern aaa game development
@leoisforevercool
@leoisforevercool 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad it's been a while since we got anything cool from them
@kingofthekarps3066
@kingofthekarps3066 Жыл бұрын
@@leoisforevercool half life alyx wasnt that terribly long ago
@leoisforevercool
@leoisforevercool Жыл бұрын
@@kingofthekarps3066 True I didn`t get to play that cause ion got VR but Desk Job was fire too
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 7 жыл бұрын
Still so badly wanna see a game with the mysterious F stop mechanic
@haiperbus
@haiperbus 4 жыл бұрын
they are keeping it a secret cause they want to maybe return to it someday. most have come to agree that the steram game SUPERLUMINAL is similar to F-Stop
@henrycgs
@henrycgs 4 жыл бұрын
Superliminal is what you're looking for.
@haiperbus
@haiperbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@henrycgs superluminal does many things different. And its very clear lighting was also a mechanic in fstop but not in superluminal
@chocofrolik834
@chocofrolik834 4 жыл бұрын
@@haiperbus it's spelled superliminal
@goeiecool9999
@goeiecool9999 4 жыл бұрын
@@chocofrolik834 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rp-miN2lnt7Mnn0.html
@ICANanimations
@ICANanimations 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why I didnt complain about the new elevators was because the logic being that every room is a module. so the elevator is just another module that can be replaced with a modern one.
@gabrielandy9272
@gabrielandy9272 3 жыл бұрын
we can also see that the old elevators are just old graphics, if we remake a ps1 game like crash it odn't need to look as bad as it was, so as long as its still a elevator we can think about developer creativity to improve graphics.
@gh8735
@gh8735 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish that “Morgan Freeman Sphere” was implemented into the game. That’s such a unique and hilarious idea.
@helgebrekke
@helgebrekke 4 жыл бұрын
....Just a short cameo, gotten Morgan Freeman to voice it, and you spend a max total of 5-10 minutes with it before you're forced to part with it.
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 5 ай бұрын
​@@helgebrekkemaybe even put it on the old aperture building since wheatley isn't part of that moment in the game
@skittybug6937
@skittybug6937 4 жыл бұрын
"Why make Portal 2? because a lot of people wanted to make it." So what you're saying is people don't want to make Portal 3. This is heresy.
@daniman0114
@daniman0114 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a joke but I think it may be more that making a sequel to portal is probably even harder than making a sequel to portal 1
@skittybug6937
@skittybug6937 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniman0114 Yea. Portal 2 was wrapped up in a nice little bow with Chell being allowed to leave Aperture. We also know the origins of Aperture. Nothing new can really be added to the story without it being bland or retconning most of Portal 2, but that's what the Co-operative Testing Initiative and Perpetual Testing Initiative are for. Perhaps they can be launching grounds for new stories in the Portal Multiverse, or an alternative style such as in Aperture Tag. The possibilities are endless...yet they're also constrained by the engine. Half Life has been called the testing grounds for new game engines by Valve itself, even. Half-Life Alyx would usually lend itself to this trend...but Portal VR? Can I have "getting people sick" for $500, Alex? Honestly, the real question isn't if there will ever be ideas for a Portal Sequel, it's if Valve will continue making non-VR engines.
@algotn
@algotn 3 жыл бұрын
@@skittybug6937 source 2 will have support for non vr? its not like its some discrete engine made only for hla, they made it as a sequel to source 1 ie modding support, superb performance etc.
@RO8s
@RO8s 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniman0114 The obvious place to continue the story is out in the world with Chell, the Gun, the Companion Cube, the Alien Enemy of Half Life and GLaDOS hacked into the world computer system to free the Earth together. In fact you ought to be able to play it as Freeman, or Chell - starting in totally different places with different viewpoints...
@daniman0114
@daniman0114 3 жыл бұрын
Robin Aldersey-Taylor the portal gun doesn’t work outside aperture though
@pilsmer
@pilsmer 4 жыл бұрын
What if, you wanted to win a GOTY award. But Todd says: "Skyrim"
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
And people decide that they prefer shallow Skinner boxes over the brilliant creativity that Portal 2 demonstrated with its gameplay and story.
@TotallyOKAYProductions
@TotallyOKAYProductions 4 жыл бұрын
No bro
@Verpal
@Verpal 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 To be fair, people are still modding Skyrim to this day, and Portal 2 is pretty much antique beauty nowadays.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
@@Verpal If people could just mod whatever they wanted, then that would mean something. No idea what the "antique beauty part was supposed to mean. It's a timeless game. People will go back to it the way they do with other classics.
@RusZugunder
@RusZugunder 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 idk man, i love both games and returned to both of them. Skyrim just has a lot more of content, i had 50+ hours of play time before i saw the ending of Skyrim. You have to be either very bad at puzzles or very interested in gazing at grey square rooms to get comparable amount of entertaining time in Portal 2. Not trying to say that Portal 2 isn't a masterpiece
@ronan5230
@ronan5230 7 жыл бұрын
WE NEED THAT MORGAN FREEMAN SPHERE!!
@MarkMcDaniel
@MarkMcDaniel 4 жыл бұрын
You get busy puzzlin', or you get busy dyin'!
@thechroniclegamer4285
@thechroniclegamer4285 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. (Imagine it said nothing the entire time)
@Machtyn
@Machtyn 4 жыл бұрын
Re: elevators. I wondered why there were new elevators. After playing through the game I passed it off as "we were in a different part of Aperture Science."
@SmashGamerHD
@SmashGamerHD 4 жыл бұрын
Well it kinda were new/different areas
@roondarmurnig338
@roondarmurnig338 4 жыл бұрын
@@SmashGamerHD No, in the beginning you are running the exact same test track from the first game.
@ShyGuyXXL
@ShyGuyXXL 4 жыл бұрын
In my headcanon all the new tech is stuff that GlaDos developed and finished JUST before you killed her in the first game. So while you were fighting her, she remotely installed new elevators and laser test chambers and stuff. But yeah, it IS pretty ridiculous how much more high tech aperture science suddenly got between games. It's best not to think about it too much. I just see it as another interpretation of the same world.
@MarkMcDaniel
@MarkMcDaniel 4 жыл бұрын
I figured that in the absence of GLaDOS, the Aperture turrets rearranged the chambers for fun.
@EmeraldCrowz
@EmeraldCrowz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkMcDaniel There are nanobot crews and such, the facility isn't "operational" per se but some aspects are maintained, since the robots never were really told not to do their jobs anymore.
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC 4 жыл бұрын
I get the concept of wanting to move away from Portals. The whole point of Aperture Science is that it's this huge science facility like Black Mesa so of COURSE there would be other experiments besides the portal gun... But that's the thing, people played and loved a PORTAL game, not an Aperture Science game. Which is why I'm glad they added back in the portals because otherwise it wouldn't really be Portal 2, it would be more like a Portal 1 spinoff game within the same setting.
@picture5161
@picture5161 4 жыл бұрын
Freak80MC like apatride tag i think the game is where you have a gel gun
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. That's what they said...
@OwenUtleyTRO
@OwenUtleyTRO 4 жыл бұрын
@@picture5161 apatride?
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 4 жыл бұрын
Aperture Also Portal 2 could have been 📞 ed Portals, 👍 with 👽 2 being 📞 ed 👽 s.
@HawkEye667Bro
@HawkEye667Bro Жыл бұрын
@@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 what the fuck kinda hieroglyphic bullshit is this
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 6 жыл бұрын
Welp, it's been confirmed. Portal 1 takes place in the 2000s.
@roondarmurnig338
@roondarmurnig338 4 жыл бұрын
I'd guess it takes place when the game was in development.
@panduino2156
@panduino2156 4 жыл бұрын
cheezkid26 We knew that already, as Portal takes place right as the Seven Hour War is going on
@shahobiddinismoilov
@shahobiddinismoilov 4 жыл бұрын
cheezkid26 It was already a known fact
@MauricioJara
@MauricioJara 3 жыл бұрын
It takes place sometime around 2010, after the Resonance Cascade, and while the combine is occupying the planet
@commodore7331
@commodore7331 3 жыл бұрын
@@panduino2156 it's actually after the seven hour war but before hl2, since the old aperture science website implies that the scientists were still alive during the combine invasion.
@pionosphere
@pionosphere 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert (for those who care): Portal 2's ending is one of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had. I was looking around frantically for a place to put my other portal, and looked up and thought: "I wonder..." I was so hyped when it worked.
@Lyllithia
@Lyllithia 4 жыл бұрын
same man same, and then things went so quickly, that ending was so amazing. Man I wish I could play it again without knowing what happens.
@Ajlog_
@Ajlog_ 3 жыл бұрын
Ye Portal 2 was just amazing for me and now it’s one of my favourite games now
@alexanderalverson8915
@alexanderalverson8915 3 жыл бұрын
Story or co-op
@ReverendTed
@ReverendTed 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite bit is how they factored in the speed of light for the sequence.
@Howlingburd19
@Howlingburd19 2 жыл бұрын
The co-op endings are really funny (especially the DLC one), you should look at those. I feel like in contrast to Half-Life which should definitely get a 3rd game, Portal isn’t super desperate for one. For Portal, the main story of the Aperture Science Enrichment Center is for the most part, successfully concluded, and it ends on a very very high note (for both the single player ending, and the ending for the co-op DLC, which is pure gold lmao). But for Half-Life, it kinda ends on a somewhat inconclusive or “empty” note, there’s still more stuff that could happen and stuff that needs to be concluded. The only “more” content I can think of for Portal would be in the form of prequels. Perhaps these prequel games could focus on a different character, and could take place prior to Portal 1, or between the events of Portal 1 and 2.
@wolf7115
@wolf7115 7 жыл бұрын
They mentioned skyrim getting more game of the year awards at the end, but while I enjoyed skyrim, Portal 2 still remains one of my favorite games of all time.
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 7 жыл бұрын
i mean skyrim is good, but Portal 2 is the perfect game. skyrim has the WOOW LOOK AT THIS! so it looks like the better of the to, but in the long run Portal 2 is a supriem time clasic that lives on. but well its also like comparing ables and bannas. they both great for difrent resons. but in spaecking of game play, Portal is the clear winer. (to tierd for speell coraction =0=)
@error.418
@error.418 6 жыл бұрын
ables and bannas...
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 4 жыл бұрын
Skyrim did not age well. At all. Portal 2 did. So the fact that it got game of the year over Portal 2 is kinda funny in retrospect.
@jpeg204
@jpeg204 4 жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbark skyrim aged very well, still an insanely fun game to this day, its somewhat lack of polish is what makes it so charming
@jpeg204
@jpeg204 4 жыл бұрын
@@MouseGoat obviously portals mechanics are very interesting and obviously amazing, but skyrims fun comes from it's freedom
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev 4 жыл бұрын
16:40 - It could have been good if you had a metal arm swing into the ceiling, break the floor (make a crack to start where the laser would cut off that wall), reach in and grab a piece of tile that can have a portal on it, and then have it pull it out and then start moving. Basically follows the rule of "if their's motion, that stands out, people look at it automatically" kind of rule.
@henke37
@henke37 7 жыл бұрын
I think the audio is out of sync.
@N....
@N.... 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, it's way out of sync. There's another video that switches to a view of the presenter at the worst possible times but at least the audio is in sync. Can't have the best of both worlds I guess XD
@TheGaluMoD
@TheGaluMoD 7 жыл бұрын
Except you can! *SLAP* www.gamasutra.com/view/news/188840/Video_Valve_on_Portal_2_the_sequel_to_a_game_that_doesnt_need_one.php
@AbigailQuarettz
@AbigailQuarettz 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the video, it's KZfaq. I have the same problem for every video I watch on KZfaq for Mobile. It's probably just a KZfaq bug.
@AbigailQuarettz
@AbigailQuarettz 6 жыл бұрын
Hold up I just noticed, this discussion is a Year old, you might be right.
@Betapvnk
@Betapvnk 4 жыл бұрын
ArturoTGN now it’s 2 years old, same issue
@dgwdgw
@dgwdgw 4 жыл бұрын
> Official GDC video feed > Never, not once, shows the speakers Sigh.
@ProdCashhier
@ProdCashhier 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this video like a couple months ago and I swear they showed the two guys presenting
@dankmachine
@dankmachine 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProdCashhier you mean this one? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qM-Zndahp5-oeYU.html Different channel, talks about the struggles of making the Portals themselves, not the story
@ProdCashhier
@ProdCashhier 3 жыл бұрын
@@dankmachine yeah that's the one I'm pretty sure
@IDontDoDrumCovers
@IDontDoDrumCovers 7 жыл бұрын
"Creating a Sequel to a Game That Doesn't Need One" funny valve could make a sequal for a game that didnt need one.... now if only they could make the sequal to that game they left with a cliffhanger >.>
@cerbralone
@cerbralone 4 жыл бұрын
This hurt me
@carnage-_-2419
@carnage-_-2419 4 жыл бұрын
K
@Stargazer1312
@Stargazer1312 4 жыл бұрын
I just keep telling myself that the episodes aren't canon. It doesn't work
@thetrashmann8140
@thetrashmann8140 4 жыл бұрын
We got Half-Life: Alyx at the cost of Team Fortress 2
@BaconStudio
@BaconStudio 4 жыл бұрын
The Valve crew is at E3 2020 and they have a very important announcement to make. The blazing glorious screen dims to a dark black and then slowly the portal logo fades in. THE CROWD BURST WITH HAPPINESS AND EXCITEMENT as the logo shines brightly. Moments after three words fade in below the logo reading "The card game" The crowd doesn't know how to actually feel about this oof =P
@dankmachine
@dankmachine 3 жыл бұрын
That sounded like a joke that could work really well for comedic relief before quickly switching to saying *Three
@FrenchFryCheese04
@FrenchFryCheese04 2 жыл бұрын
E3 died
@meech37
@meech37 Жыл бұрын
I love how transparent valve is with the development of their games. From the dev commentaries to stuff like this, it's so cool.
@RandomGuy0987
@RandomGuy0987 7 жыл бұрын
If you have not played Portal 1 or 2 I highly recommend playing before spoiling it!
@DrMcFly28
@DrMcFly28 7 жыл бұрын
This is the fourth time I am listening about the F-Stop and it still pains inside how much I would want to play that game.
@WymanandBrad
@WymanandBrad 7 жыл бұрын
McFly yeah I would love to know what it was
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 7 жыл бұрын
obviously the F is for frame, its a machine that stops your frames ^^
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 6 жыл бұрын
Creep Gameplays no, fuck you!
@MrGermandeutsch
@MrGermandeutsch 2 жыл бұрын
@@MouseGoat _Pretty sure_ it actually means *Focus* , not *Frame* . And yes, I am fully aware that my response is over 4 years late.
@emmittmorgans8076
@emmittmorgans8076 7 жыл бұрын
I've never experienced a slaughter like this... RIP Richard Ayoade's surname
@error.418
@error.418 6 жыл бұрын
ay-oh-AID 😂
@GeoKureli
@GeoKureli 7 жыл бұрын
"Whetley would ... get a come-uppin's ... but it wasn't really that bad, he's still out there in space" Portal 3 confirmed
@dirkbaldorad3634
@dirkbaldorad3634 6 жыл бұрын
Wheatly in Skyrim
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 4 жыл бұрын
Because Space Core fell into TSE's planet, from a somehow interstellar escape velocity from Luna right out of the Sol System.
@Kekatronic
@Kekatronic 4 жыл бұрын
Me: oh shit something about a sequel to portal 2 speaker: no, counting to three is blasphemy
@AtomicRay
@AtomicRay 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler warning: I love how in the ending, it just makes you look up at the moon. And then you vaguely remember cave johnson speaking about this- how the facility's portal panels were made from moon rocks- so you immediately think: "what if-" and then you do it. And boom. You feel so smart. 10/10.
@valshaped
@valshaped 7 жыл бұрын
"Somebody already cut the cake"
@camoningerland8212
@camoningerland8212 2 жыл бұрын
How do you make a sequel to a great game? You make a perfect game.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 5 жыл бұрын
Portal may not have needed a sequel, but Portal 2 does. My son and I would LOVE to have a Portal 3.
@KynsonMitchell
@KynsonMitchell 4 жыл бұрын
The "thinking with time machines" portal 2 mod is a really cool continuation of portal 2 if you're interested But yeah, portal 3 would be amazing lol
@sad_tbh
@sad_tbh 4 жыл бұрын
Portal Stories Mel is a community made prequel that was absolutely fantastic, I would highly recommend it. You could mistake it for a Valve-made title.
@nitro2684
@nitro2684 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the answers for what you need to do are buried in what you've already done. -Gabe Newell, 2016
@helohel5915
@helohel5915 4 жыл бұрын
Portal 2 wasn’t just a sequel to a game that didn’t need one, it was an exploration of new mechanics. Portal 2 with its lasers, laser cubes, the gels, sunlight walkways and funnels expanded the concept massively
@vrondii
@vrondii 5 жыл бұрын
I understand why they cut the fake endings, but I would've LOVED to see those in the final product
@Armm8991
@Armm8991 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh! i thought they were going to talk about that famous f-stop nobody knows anything about
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 7 жыл бұрын
F stop? like in cameras?
@Sevendogtags
@Sevendogtags 7 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, just watched the video.
@error.418
@error.418 7 жыл бұрын
they said just enough to tell us they won't tell us because they might still use it, so here's hoping they use it or give up and spill the beans
@masonjohnstone2532
@masonjohnstone2532 5 жыл бұрын
ik this is old but i have to say this. You referred to something as famous and no one knowing about it at the same time. Made me laugh.
@drowningin
@drowningin 6 жыл бұрын
i love after they answer the first question in Q&A guys like "that.....alright.."
@Fabelaz
@Fabelaz 4 жыл бұрын
the only portal on moving platform was in this chamber 15:45 I was stuck for quite some time in this room because I specifically learned to never try to place portals on moving objects. Another criticism from me is that most of the puzzles changed to 'find _the_ spot to place a portal on'.
@DashFlashTheLife
@DashFlashTheLife 4 жыл бұрын
True. It’s good they used lighting to their advantage at least
@OmniversalInsect
@OmniversalInsect 5 ай бұрын
Especially in the large old aperture areas I spent a long time trying to find the right portal spots.
@apoorvaaditya9491
@apoorvaaditya9491 6 жыл бұрын
Just before the wheatley battle, I was just thinking about what would happen if I put a portal on the moon. And when it actually happened in the game, it blew my mind. How did the game read my mind?
@commenturthegreat2915
@commenturthegreat2915 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the announcement for the second game I started to think of crazy ideas for levels they could make and one of them was shooting a portal to the moon and having a level in low gravity. My mind was blown too when I finished the second game...
@elizathegamer413
@elizathegamer413 3 жыл бұрын
well the effetively forshadowed it by telling us that the portal surfaces were made from moon rock, so naturally that's where portals would be able to go
@VonOzbourne
@VonOzbourne 5 жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued to see this game where the main villain was going to be J.R Ewing [@ 4:42]
@mattstat716
@mattstat716 4 жыл бұрын
I'd argue Portal 2 was a sequel that was necessary. Who founded Aperture Science? What were they originally testing for? Why does the portal gun only work on white surfaces? How long has Aperture Science been around? etc etc.
@shitlordflytrap1078
@shitlordflytrap1078 4 жыл бұрын
Technically you're right, but the thing is, those are all questions that do not interfere with your gameplay experience. Most people wouldn't care for these questions until Portal 2 actually came out. Basically, until the devs have decided that they want lore, the players didn't really need it.
@blueoctopus8
@blueoctopus8 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a good advice for making anything, not just video games or sequels.
@bobbytables464
@bobbytables464 7 жыл бұрын
Well I'm glad they didn't do the observer effect plot, because that's actually a complete misunderstanding of the observer effect. It has nothing to do with a conscious observer, it just means "observation requires interaction, and interaction requires the particle to pick a position". The photons coming off the screen you're looking at don't collapse their wave functions only when hitting a human retina, they collapse their wave function whenever they hit anything at all. Schrodinger's cat isn't actually in a superposition of dead and alive, because it's a macroscopic collection of interacting particles which therefore have to have a concrete state. It's just a fanciful metaphor.
@kaedotmoe
@kaedotmoe 6 жыл бұрын
well congratulations, then, because he surmised a basic concept in completely understandably language, and you still failed to understand it and yet felt the need to feel upset about it and be entitled enough to complain.
@Dipsxi
@Dipsxi 4 жыл бұрын
This should be renamed to 'How To Make a Good Game Sequel'
@DashFlashTheLife
@DashFlashTheLife 4 жыл бұрын
28:08 “Deep *in the balls* of aperture” Me: WTF? *realizes it’s “deep in the bowels” of aperture*
@metalhusky
@metalhusky 7 жыл бұрын
24:52 this is cool!
@WymanandBrad
@WymanandBrad 7 жыл бұрын
metalhusky yeah wish we could get that story
@Jay0neDE
@Jay0neDE 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Ayoade was gonna be in Portal 2?? goddamn that could have been amazing!
@finallysaved
@finallysaved 19 күн бұрын
It's really interesting seeing how the early concepts were formed into extremely polished final works. Amazing game, I hope to work on something as great as Portal someday
@nikolairuskanov787
@nikolairuskanov787 7 жыл бұрын
The thing is, they work a long time to make something awesome. Then because of that they grow overly self-critical. But because it takes a very long time people expect more so they work longer. It's a never ending loop. Half-life 3 confirmed for 300010 AD
@camelCased
@camelCased 4 жыл бұрын
3:47 - oh, that place where I jumped from every place possible (I also visited the locked door on the opposite side) to discover how to go through that O hole...
@Willlly61
@Willlly61 6 жыл бұрын
Man, what a great Q & A.. Great questions
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 4 жыл бұрын
at first i assumed that they removed portals in early development was a joke
@TheStingling
@TheStingling 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload
@420Crows
@420Crows 4 жыл бұрын
honestly i lowkey wish chell did speak at the end, even just that one word, but i love the some what cannon reason she never does and its basically out of spite, all the robots are dicks so why give then the time of day, but when chell left the facility it would have been cool if she said something after finally being free of the facility, it would have been so cool
@hansmeier2802
@hansmeier2802 7 жыл бұрын
never played Portal 1 - I know sad story - but I really loved Portal 2 and it is nice to know how much thought went into it.
@narbacularblu6779
@narbacularblu6779 6 жыл бұрын
You should get it. It's a fantastic game.
@Zestyclose-Big3127
@Zestyclose-Big3127 4 жыл бұрын
34:25 I...actually loved that
@SmashGamerHD
@SmashGamerHD 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@DlcEnergy
@DlcEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
53:08 Best Question the testing must continue unbeknownst to the testers, the room they're in is slowly going down into a testing chamber where they'll be ready to test
@Veptis
@Veptis 11 ай бұрын
Excited to one day see the sequel to this talk.
@UpsideDownCycle
@UpsideDownCycle 2 жыл бұрын
15:54 that is genuinely so cool.
@FlashMeterRed
@FlashMeterRed 7 жыл бұрын
richard Ay-O-Ade? not richard aye-o-wah-di? that would have been awesome.
@MissusO
@MissusO 6 жыл бұрын
It would be more like "Ah-yo-wa-day." Say it quickly. :P
@foist101
@foist101 5 жыл бұрын
It is kind of crazy that a ton of these cut ideas could have easily been put together into a Portal 3 and been a hit.
@MCLooyverse
@MCLooyverse 4 жыл бұрын
About the elevators, I wondered why they changed. The new elevator room has more freedom to move around, so I always had to check that there wasn't anything hiding in there.
@NeilRoy
@NeilRoy 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome game! That ending was amazing.
@legoman8960
@legoman8960 3 жыл бұрын
I really did just watch the whole thing
@LicensedContractor
@LicensedContractor 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I really liked the original ending they had for Portal 2. My jaw actually dropped when Chel spoke.
@sad_tbh
@sad_tbh 4 жыл бұрын
But you can see how it was anti-climactic, and to any new players it would be a bit confusing as to why that's a big deal
@Rc3651
@Rc3651 6 жыл бұрын
It's been roughly six years since they gave this talk and still no F-Stop game (or any game!) on the horizon. A Valve game with a new puzzle mechanic strong enough to rival portals? Please make games again, guys.
@DuolosX
@DuolosX 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty sure Valve is completely dead as a developer. They're a content provider and store now, nothing more.
@cjcathead2468
@cjcathead2468 4 жыл бұрын
They made a game.
@elerosvecchio
@elerosvecchio 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the Wheatly voice before Merchant but now I barely remember the old one.
@DerHirni
@DerHirni 5 жыл бұрын
The Morgan Freeman Sphere sounds hilarious, too bad it didn't make into the game
@TheObservationlounge
@TheObservationlounge 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking strictly for myself, I am *not* one of those gamers who only looks straight ahead. Never know when texture differences in a room might lead one to the right direction...or to 'who knows?'... and sometimes, it just pays to observe all of the asthetics in an environment. Sometimes.
@unr34L-
@unr34L- 26 күн бұрын
I remember watching this in 2012
@dlopez8104
@dlopez8104 2 жыл бұрын
You know I understood the Chell thing, I can't believe play testers didn't even react
@ea09
@ea09 6 жыл бұрын
I keep watching this video and i don't know why. Yeah, it's awesome presentation and it's always great seeing bts stuff of portal/half-life games. But, there's something different. Maybe i'm sad that valve don't make these great games anymore and i want to remember good times.
@sebastianfernandez6146
@sebastianfernandez6146 5 жыл бұрын
2:00 Thank you GameSpy now we have no games from Valve :)
@raskolnikov6347
@raskolnikov6347 5 жыл бұрын
"My favorite snack is the big pink cookie"
@tiagodarkpeasant
@tiagodarkpeasant 4 жыл бұрын
have they ever thought of keeping mel, and glados just treating mel as if she was chel ? glados is kinda insane anyway, she could even realise later the she was dealing with a new person leading to her eventual enemy mine situation
@Yurgen_S
@Yurgen_S 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should revisit the F-stop idea and make an Aperture Science game, where you play the schizophrenic Doug Rattman.
@facethetemmie3033
@facethetemmie3033 3 жыл бұрын
5:55 had g man!
@Littlefighter1911
@Littlefighter1911 4 жыл бұрын
Lasers do not have the same properties in my opinion. They are there instantly. Meaning puzzles as in the first game, where the energy ball can move through an energy field, together with the player, won't be possible, as the portal for the laser will be closed, once the player walks through an energy field.
@5frogfrenzy
@5frogfrenzy 7 жыл бұрын
someone should of asked about them putting the dock of the borealis!
@nagualdesign
@nagualdesign 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Ayoade's surname isn't pronounced "Ayy-oh-aid", it's "Eye-oh-ahh-dee".
@notanarmadillo
@notanarmadillo 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be incredibly interested to see a Richard Ayoade version of Wheatley, he seems like an equally brilliant fit to Stephen Merchant
@Querez8504
@Querez8504 6 жыл бұрын
34:51 *Cough Crash of the Titans Cough*
@squidgychurch
@squidgychurch 2 жыл бұрын
Portal 2: now without portals!
@Joshman601
@Joshman601 6 жыл бұрын
Now we need portal 3! Maybe where you escape the facility, and get to see the outside. Or make it where you go back in time and you get to see the facility as it was in the 70's. More cave Johnson and caroline. Pre war aperture.
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632
@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 4 жыл бұрын
ROBLOX is 👎 🏃 g 2 me.
@HerbieChuckNorris
@HerbieChuckNorris 3 жыл бұрын
Maan, I'd love to see an Ayoade personality core.
@bittersweetvictory8541
@bittersweetvictory8541 2 жыл бұрын
i've always carried wheatley down there, now i'm very inclined to just redo that section and just toss him down
@TheSpacecraftX
@TheSpacecraftX 7 жыл бұрын
Just get on Portal 3 already.
@spinningninja2
@spinningninja2 6 жыл бұрын
UGGGGGGH that Skyrim bit was like a shot through the chest (or, more appropriately an arrow to the knee). Why couldnt they have released Portal 2 any other year?!?!
@sagered8007
@sagered8007 2 жыл бұрын
You should have been able to drop wheatley. It would be hilarious to accidentally drop him, even if it is rare that anyone drops him. Or maybe wheatley should have mentioned about not dropping him.
@thetrashmann8140
@thetrashmann8140 4 жыл бұрын
I would've called it Aperture Experiments: F-STOP
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the slideshow is out of sync in this upload. The slides are changing a few seconds earlier than they did in reality. It's the same on the GDC website. (Ironically IGN's channel has an upload where they're in sync.)
@Machtyn
@Machtyn 4 жыл бұрын
Re: outward forms of expression when doing something alone. There was a study I read about that showed that people don't really laugh out loud when they are by themselves. It's why TV comedies put a laugh track in their shows. It's to help the viewer to know that it was okay to laugh out loud.
@jlebrech
@jlebrech 4 жыл бұрын
they nearly did Titanfall 2 levels there :D
@tensevo
@tensevo 6 жыл бұрын
GB2 was fantastic though
@ihateevilbill
@ihateevilbill 4 жыл бұрын
Im not sure that a Portal 2 was out the window. I mean in the same sentence you also mention that we really dont kill Glados... its even the main idea of the (brilliant) outro. Thats literally inviting a sequel. PS Fukn loved Portal 2 :)
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 4 жыл бұрын
not catch wheatley? I often caught him when he drop from rail
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 4 жыл бұрын
@Gizio the Jackal just between him drop and floor it is possible to grab before hits floor
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 4 жыл бұрын
@Gizio the Jackal not sure how he was caught when I was beside where he falls then without him hitting ground
@DoodleZoo
@DoodleZoo 4 жыл бұрын
mlee6050 you’re lying if you think you caught him, it’s not possible
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoodleZoo not lying just saying what I saw or how it felt
@kevinallain2415
@kevinallain2415 5 жыл бұрын
I guess they just aren't excited about Half-Life 3.
@Howlingburd19
@Howlingburd19 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like in contrast to Half-Life which should definitely get a 3rd game, Portal isn’t super desperate for one. For Portal, the main story of the Aperture Science Enrichment Center is for the most part, successfully concluded, and it ends on a very very high note (for both the single player ending, and the ending for the co-op DLC, which is pure gold lmao). But for Half-Life, it kinda ends on a somewhat inconclusive or “empty” note, there’s still more stuff that could happen and stuff that needs to be concluded. The only “more” content I can think of for Portal would be in the form of prequels. Perhaps these prequel games could focus on a different character, and could take place prior to Portal 1, or between the events of Portal 1 and 2.
@ri-gor
@ri-gor 4 жыл бұрын
"the talk is going to be 30-35 minutes long..." the timeline begs to differ...
@theshusher3278
@theshusher3278 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Developers, It's OKAY for a player to look around for 30 seconds to figure out what to do next. We are not all going to give up and rage-quit in less than a minute, and anyone who would, you probably shouldn't be worrying about while designing your game and cutting content.
@nulano
@nulano 7 жыл бұрын
I wish someone had asked whether they left themselves a way to make Portal 3.
@woopi8003
@woopi8003 7 жыл бұрын
That was the last question.
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