Potts Milling Spindle

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john2478

john2478

3 жыл бұрын

The Potts Milling Spindle
The first spindle I fitted a Nanotec DB59C024035-A DC Motor, BLDC, 24 V, Three Phase, 220 W, 3500 rpm, 60 N-cm, DB59 Series cost from Farnell £135. I bought one off ebay for half that price new second hand.
Brushless Controllers used can be
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-5V-12V-...
Regulator
240v to 24 v
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-12V-24V...
DC motor brushed motor used on second spindle
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-S...
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/0-100-Digi...
Bearings used.
First spindle
simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p20...
2 bearings at front 1 at rear
Second spindle
simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p89...
John

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@russelldold4827
@russelldold4827 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My late father subscribed to Model Engineer magazine, so from my teens (55-odd years) I have known about the Potts, but until today I had never actually seen one "in the flesh". I live in South Africa, so it is unlikely I would come across one any other way. Versatile indeed!
@john2478
@john2478 3 жыл бұрын
Russell Yes they are not that common even in the UK. John
@paulrayner4514
@paulrayner4514 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for that. I've heard of them but never actually seen one. very nicely presented.
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool lil add on
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 3 жыл бұрын
john you are really good thanks for posting, youtube gem
@turningpoint6643
@turningpoint6643 3 жыл бұрын
My thanks as well, I've seen this same Potts milling attachment many times in my collection of old M.E. magazines just as Russell did. And I can't recall seeing one mounted up on a lathe in any video yet. If my memory isn't faulty, I believe Potts also sold another much more simple and basic version without the large vertical adjustment and again meant to be driven with an overhead belt system. Likely there's now less interest in these simply because today far fewer even know about them or how they might be used. And most automatically think a milling machine is always required for proper milling. The work once it's been machined in a lathe chuck is already held and is as concentric as it's ever going to be. It's far more time and effort to transfer it over to a mill, recenter on a rotary table or dividing head to do what your Potts already can with even better accuracy. Today's industrial cnc machines use live tooling a great deal for good reason. It can work just as well on a manual lathe with a bit more set up time just as it did 50 - 70 years ago. Your integral motor drives just make them much nicer and easier to use. Unlikely with your obvious experience you don't know of and may already own them. But I very much recommend both of the George Thomas written books. The Model Engineers Workshop Manual and his Workshop Techniques book. Between the two they cover much of what your doing and go into great detail about lathe head stock dividing specifically for use with some type of cross slide mounted live tooling. Due to his influence I had some specific requirements I wasn't willing to do without when I bought my last lathe. A tee slotted cross slide being one of them.And while my lathe milling attachment doesn't have the vertical adjustment range that your Potts have, I did buy the Quick Step mill from Hemingway Kits when it was still available. A powered milling attachment and some method of dividing vastly increases what is then possible to do on a lathe. His use of a boring head in the lathes head stock and the work positioned on the cross slide to do concentric outside turning and boring might have simplified your issues while re-machining that one part.
@john2478
@john2478 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interest and the lengthy comments. I used to have a vertical slide and home made milling spindle for many years but treated myself to the Potts when one came available. It is a great tool and am glad I bought it. The manufacturers machining is really first class. I also have a cnc lathe and a decent size cnc mill. I still like making parts on the manual lathe and with the DRO fitted it can be just as easy and quick to turn one offs as on the CNC. However making 12 or more is a different matter! John
@andyash5675
@andyash5675 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I'm just building a grinding spindle for a small T&C grinder. I have used a BLDC motor, but it is surprising how difficult it can be to find a decent small motor and control setup of the right type. The reconditioning work you did on that Potts looks spot on. :-)
@john2478
@john2478 3 жыл бұрын
Andy I have put a note on the list page of the motor types and controllers etc in case it is of help to you. Thanks for the kind remarks John
@andyash5675
@andyash5675 3 жыл бұрын
@@john2478 Thats superb John. I wondered what motor you had under that nice heatsink. My grinding spindle uses the same style of NEMA23 motor. I think most of them are made by the Fulling Motor Company in China, but they are hard to buy direct. They are awesome little motors but rather juicy in the amps. They do such an incredible job in such a tiny package. I have been less impressed with the BLDC controllers from China. I've tried a few of them. They work O.K. ish, but I don't think they live up to my expectations for what BLDC can actually do. For work I've used really expensive industrial automation, but it's too much for home hobby. I'm currently creating my own closed loop controller. I always wanted to do it. I've done the three phase bridge and it seems O.K. Just working on the code for the FPGA. I have a lash up presently for the electronics and I'm pretty happy. I wanted to make it scaleable, I'm hoping for a max spec of 20A at 48V. That way I can make one controller and use it for any machine application (grinding spindle, milling spindle, die-grinder, power scraper). It is turning out to be fairly expensive but I'm getting an open source "Rolls Royce" - I hope. I'll probably do a vid when I finish it. I'll give you a nudge. :-)
@BuickDoc
@BuickDoc 3 жыл бұрын
That must be mine. It has my name on it (my surname). I wondered where I left it. LOL
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John on your nano tec motor do you have a 3phase supply or an inverter cheers
@john2478
@john2478 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a very cheap ebay 3 phase converter and a separate 24 v power supply. DC 5V 12V 24V 36V 15A 3-phase DC Brushless Motor Speed Controller CW CCW Switch The 3 phase is just £14.95. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-5V-12V-24V-36V-15A-3-phase-DC-Brushless-Motor-Speed-Controller-CW-CCW-Switch/164250643621. John
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@john2478 thanks john thats great
@772777777777777
@772777777777777 2 жыл бұрын
You call that to post that you put on your lathe at 2 minutes and 30 seconds
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 3 жыл бұрын
john please can you give me the model number of your nanotech motor cheers john
@john2478
@john2478 3 жыл бұрын
The number and details is on my details at the head of this. Nanotec DB59C024035-A DC Motor, BLDC, 24 V, Three Phase, 220 W,
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks john
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