Turning A Stock Mustang GT Into A Weekend Racer

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Turning A Stock Mustang GT Into A Weekend Racer - Engine Power S11, E7&8

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Күн бұрын

Engine Power embarks on a new project for SCCA’s inaugural SPEC Mustang class. We’ll take a 2008 Mustang GT and begin getting it ready for this entry level, but competitive class. After we finish our upgrades, we head to a Summit Racing Event and put it to the test.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Forney Industries: Forney 220 AC/DC Tig Welder
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Aluminum Race Seat Covers
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Aluminum Race Seats
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing K&N 63 Series Air Intake and SCT X4 Flash Programmer Combo
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Stainless Steel Exhaust System
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Maximum Motorsports: Sport 4-Point Mustang Roll Bar
EBC Brakes: EBC Blue Stuff NDX Full Race Brake Pads, Front
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EBC Brakes: EBC Blue Stuff NDX Full Race Brake Pads, Rear
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EBC Brakes: EBC Ultimax OE Style Smooth Vented Front Disc Brake Rotors
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EBC Brakes: EBC Ultimax OE Style Smooth Vented Rear Disc Brake Rotors
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Schaeffer Specialized Lubricants: Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic Engine Oil 5W-20
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Summit Racing: Eibach Anti-Roll Sway Bar Kit
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Summit Racing: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3 Tires
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Summit Racing: Koni Sport Shocks & Struts, Front
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Summit Racing: Koni Sport Shocks & Struts, Rear
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Summit Racing: UMI Performance On-Car Single Adjustable Panhard Bar
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Summit Racing; UMI Performance Strut Tower Brace
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Maximum Motorsports: Caster Camber Plates

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@overtorque 10 күн бұрын

I have a 2006 Mustang GT, all bolt ons (minus underdrive pulleys and shorty headers), full suspension, full performance synthetics and tune, EBC dimpled/slotted rotors with blue stuff. The car makes 368hp at the crank, 376hp with Octane Booste. The car is extremely fun to drive and you are so connected to it. It's very analog but so solid it gives you confidence in the corners. Such a well balanced car. These old 3 valves get a bit of hate, but they are literally bulletproof.

@OriginalTrev Ай бұрын

3-1/2 minutes in..."lets see what this thing can do!" Cuts to a shot of the car going down a straight stretch of country road at 30mph. Leaves lots of room for improvement LOL

@metalted6128 Ай бұрын

As a 08 gt, manual. 60k miles. I’m very much enjoying this!! Video. A lot of fun! Even stock!! For now!!

@MrLlama-rc8nj Ай бұрын

KEEP THAT 3V. They've got some astounding endurance under boost even with stock parts and a normal blended synthetic oil. These things benefit a lot frombig cams, a supercharger, and a lot of other bolt ons. I really hope to see more Modular content with these things

@Francis_Castiglione Ай бұрын

The 3v heads are just a few cfm shy of the 4v heads as well. The blocks are also stronger than the old Teksid blocks

@rayjay8322 Ай бұрын

Three valves are okay, but they greatly benefit from custom cam chain components. That's mainly for longevity, especially when pushing the limits. I really don't like locking out the cams. I like the flexibility that they offer when adjustability is retained. Tuning's no big deal really. That car does need a catch can though! That video is a bit dated, I think. I'd definitely be doing the same thing but with a Coyote powered Mustang.

@keithjones455 Ай бұрын

You basically need to replace the entire top end of the engine just to match a stock 5.0. It's a lot less expensive to get a used 5.0 and put tires on it.

@MrLlama-rc8nj Ай бұрын

@keithjones455 not so. Comp stage 2 cams are only about 750 bucks, and the stock valve springs can put up with some abuse. As long as you don't add boost, you can get really close to gen 1 Coyote numbers without spending more than 1500 bucks. That's quite the potential for so cheap if I do say

@reaperasylum Ай бұрын

As a person that owned a few 3v 4.6 I can say from experience they are decent but the cam phasers are trash the timing chains and guides are trash, factory to slightly modded it will last a good amount but cannot handle 10+ psi boost. I blew one only running 10psi so the cams, phasers and timing set have to be upgraded or swap out for upgraded 4v heads. On my 07 it went through a couple 4.6's so I got tired and put in a 5.8 forged pushrod engine and never had another issue, my 06 went forged aluminum 4v with vortec sc and 20psi

@Beanszo 25 күн бұрын

this was filmed like those mechanic shows my dad watched in the 2010s, very nostalgic lol

@s197jer Ай бұрын

I love 3v content! One of the biggest underdog/unloved motors. When built and setup correctly....it can hurt A LOT of feelings this I know first hand :)

@nowhereman-389 Ай бұрын

That can be said about any motor. It’s all about who has the deepest pockets when it comes to racing.

@GRIM.2002 Ай бұрын

@@nowhereman-389lol fr

@MrMurph111 24 күн бұрын

I have a 3v from a 2008 GT going in my 1952 Ford F1 pickup…also picked up a Magnuson MP112 supercharger for $650 a few years ago specifically for the s197. Should be around 425rwhp when done. Can’t wait!

@michaelbradley7529 Ай бұрын

Here's an easy tip for more stability and confidence in your steering inputs (to break some bad street driving habits). Keep both hands on the wheel at all times (except when shift gears), ideally at the 9 and 3 positions. Sit slightly closer to the steering wheel than you normally would daily driving, it allows you to put more torque into the steering with less effort and cuts down on muscle fatigue over multiple laps of racing. That's it, simple but effective. I raced with SCCA for over a dozen years, and it's the little things that make the biggest difference. Also, if you are going to have multiple drivers, spend the extra few bucks for adjustable seat mounts. 😉

@brando7655 Ай бұрын

The shirt pockets filled with 12 different pens is comedy

@dannysmith9803 Ай бұрын

That's for making spaghetti modles! 😆

@metalted6128 Ай бұрын

But it’s not a t shirt! Please try and pay attention!!

@LukeEdward Ай бұрын

Have you ever seen when Pat explains his pocket pens? I can guarantee that he doesn’t have a one “pin” in the non-TShirt pocket, too.

@zachniverson8816 Ай бұрын

@@LukeEdward facts. They are tools and a light

@timgunn3670 Ай бұрын

Yeah the pocket full of pens etc. is kinda funny but Pat’s cool and very knowledgeable.

@dwyanejetersr6470 Ай бұрын

The 1971 Fastback Mustang was my first car, 302 & the Mustang will always be my favorite, love watching you guys work, giving me goosebumps 😊

@jaspal666 Ай бұрын

The 1st Gen S197 is solid. 3v is a workhorse, tremec with Hurst is perfect. Brakes and suspension are cheap and easy to install. I miss my Legend Lime ‘08. Tracking a 2012… I miss the Tremec. 😢

@claynewman2213 Ай бұрын

I’ve only been waiting for this FOREVER!

@karatekid6026 Ай бұрын

Thats a good buy mileage wise. It takes 26k miles to break in a 4.6. It makes a difference. They are very tight when new.

@95Sn95 Ай бұрын

From what i can figure is the advent of swirl port heads and a bump in compression of oem engines changed the sound, every old school V8 like the ford windsor and the sbc pre TBI have a smooth rumble sound andthe ford mod motor up through to the coyote and the GM Tbi truck engine all have a raspier sound that starts as soon as throttle is applied vs older engines only get snappier with RPM. I put duals on an 88 c1500 with the tbi 5.7 and it was obnoxious other than idle yet all my older chevys with the same exhaust sounded great and very muscle car like.

@craigstark2712 Ай бұрын

Love how competition brought out the best in this class of sports car. Ford would have ran with the 4.6 for much longer if it weren't for Camaro coming out with the 6.2. Same with Dodge with their 5.7 Hemi. Meanwhile, Camaro wouldn't have done the ZL1 if not for the Hellcat or GT500.

@istimamrian5300 Ай бұрын

My favorite generation of Mustangs

@myclassiccarstory Ай бұрын

Looks like this car would be a blast to drive both daily and on the track! My dad bought a 2005 Mustang new off the showroom floor and I've always loved this body style.

@waynerohde1036 29 күн бұрын

Tony Angelo got 600+ horsepower out of that same motor in his sleeper Lincoln Mark VIII. His motor is built and turbocharged

@chriswilson8493 4 күн бұрын

Mark VIII actually has the 4v version of the 4.6, love all the 4.6 versions

@Real-CB-News Ай бұрын

34:09 ok you guys made me jump LoL Love this build!

@metalted6128 Күн бұрын

That’s a 281 CI motor!!! Ford is always on point!!!

@Wooley689 29 күн бұрын

That Rollbar is a clean setup.

@philipstewart4474 Ай бұрын

I’ve always thought giving your machine more ability to BREATHE in and out (Cold Air, Injectors Headers, High Flow Exhaust) should do the trick, is a MUST. Anything after that, is up to the User, of course you gotta upgrade your suspension and brakes to handle the EXTRA performance upgrades that you installed. Fasten your seatbelts and GO BABY GO!🚗

@paullane7489 Ай бұрын

I’m not anti-mod motor but I’d like to see a Godzilla swap in a car like this at some point. Nice project either way!👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

@johnd5805 Ай бұрын

Miller Racing Series had these spec cars with the 2006 model. Basically the same. Stock bottom end. Upgraded heads and intake. HP was around 325. Suspension was a little more "raceyish".

@overtorque 10 күн бұрын

Right! The FR500S, sealed 4.6 liter for the Miller Cup

@johnd5805 10 күн бұрын

@@overtorque yes

@redcatxb125 Ай бұрын

Love that you chose konig dekagram wheels! I have the exact same ones on my project

@wkjeeping9053 27 күн бұрын

Those racing stripes add 50 hp

@bandwagon240 Ай бұрын

Those aluminum seats need to have the backs fixed to the rollcage as well. Most places will not let you pass tech if this is not done.

@tristanhoffman6974 Ай бұрын

I feel so bad for the previous owner if he’s watching this lol probably super proud of his mods just to get crapped on by power nation 😂 “Wacky exhaust” “Questionable intake” “Probably not even tuned” Give the guy a break 😂 Love, love, love the 4.6 mod motors. Would love to see a 281ci hit the boys at Horsepower and see how much reliable power they can make on a budget.

@ghunt81 Ай бұрын

I have an '05 GT and it has always been a fun car. Not the fastest but that doesn't matter to me. 93 octane tune, headers and cams wakes these things up! I've never dynoed mine but would be cool to someday. BTW those Hurst shifters are junk. I had one and the shift pivot ball was sloppy and worn after just a couple years use, put in a Steeda Tri Ax and it's been in there almost 10 years at this point with no issues.

@leightonpolk1731 Ай бұрын

I just removed my hurst last week because I hated it. Replaced it with a Barton and it is a whole new car.

@Gilbertajallecruz 25 күн бұрын

Too AWESOME how capable these beautiful machines are🔥💯🫡

@MarkMeadows90 Ай бұрын

My dream is to own one of these 2005-2009 Mustang GTs and make it look similar to the concept version from 2003. Not a lot of people like the looks of the concept GT Mustang from 2003, but I do. It looks clean to me.

@withgrowinginsanity198 Ай бұрын

33:46 🙃 relaxing music... nice

@psycho3v Ай бұрын

Sheesh the 3v looks sick 😷

@AndyPat239 27 күн бұрын

Pat 'The Pen' Topolinski😊

@princetheiii9864 Ай бұрын

The interaction with the audience feels so personal.

@Nam_9456 Ай бұрын

I'm hoping to get into the 25 season, CSM will hopefully be my footwork for the real deal!

@newfie-dean5803 Ай бұрын

You need a chin spoiler on it to get rid of the factory overbite look. A CDC classic one pre-painted with the middle section plasti-dipped black gives a front look similar to the 07-09 California Special models.

@pheonixfps9248 Ай бұрын

Lads, Ford recommend 5w50 for race track use in their vehicles.

@rjaybruhh 18 күн бұрын

*_Personally the more I learned about motor oils the more I started experimenting on my motor oil mixes… Right now I use a mix of Panzoil Platinum High Mileage Full Synthetic & Penzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic MIX. I found put they have a 0w-30 so ill be mixing that in there just to see what the difference in performance is._*

@davidgalloway1526 Ай бұрын

i am a horse power to weight ratio guy...it would be nice to see gvw before and after... and the weight of parts coming of compared to the weight of the parts going on...

@PseudoKirby Ай бұрын

my favorite part was them justifying the whole 5hp gain from a $2000 package by saying "you dont need 500whp"

@kowpow2259 Ай бұрын

Did you also see the 20ft/lb through a big chunk of the rev range?

@wkjeeping9053 27 күн бұрын

The turner is what made the power different. It's really the only new mode they added.

@millll111lllI Ай бұрын

The only 08 Mustang I want is a Bullitt, but for some reason they are $20K and up when any regular 08 GT is like 8-9K.

@jilewis683 24 күн бұрын

#157 here. There's not many left in good condition so go for it. $20k+ prices are usually the ones with low mileage. Bet you can find one for less

@millll111lllI 23 күн бұрын

@@jilewis683 #157 is black? Maybe

@jilewis683 23 күн бұрын

@millll111lllI yea I think black is slightly cheaper since highland green is the original. Paid 18k for mine but only had 14k miles on it. Some ppl think I'm crazy for paying that much for a 3v but I always wanted one. Don't regret it one bit

@art-is-lazy4509 Ай бұрын

God dam, feed that little 4.6 some boost.

@Sergeantgrunt Ай бұрын

He likes that shifter but how about that rocking chair he's in? A lot of movement in that fixed back bucket seat.

@c10seth Ай бұрын

Great information, thank you. My only gripe is safety related - I'm surprised you're using a hardness without any kind of neck restraint unless there is something I'm missing.

@REALSHYT666 21 күн бұрын

Those race seats are trash. Get some comfortable Fixed back Seats with a slider & low seat mounts.

@ethanjohnson8107 Ай бұрын

Don't be shy, throw in a 302 stroker crank, some cams, ported heads, etc.

@GrandPitoVic Ай бұрын

Great deal guys!!!! Great build. That looked like alot of fun. I am building a Ls3 03'Crown Vic for a street track car. It's long, its heavy as a 2010 Camaro and unconventional. Once I get the big brakes and suspension upgraded done she would handle way better. For a big car she handles pretty decent. But will be better.

@cormaro13 Ай бұрын

Are u assuming this is the first time someone ever thought of doing this to a Vic ? 😂 don’t worry you’ll be fast after the supercharger install 😂

@GrandPitoVic Ай бұрын

@cormaro13 NAH, there are plenty of Ls/Vics out there. Not going all out trying to squeeze every bit of horsepower out of the engine. But she will be fun.

@cormaro13 Ай бұрын

@@GrandPitoVic no kidding , I’m just saying maybe do something different than everyone in the neighborhood lol

@GrandPitoVic Ай бұрын

@@cormaro13 My next Vic will be a 5.0

@cormaro13 Ай бұрын

@@GrandPitoVic there you go , more power baby lol

@cgallagher04 Ай бұрын

But a used car and do all of these upgrades and didn’t spend $40-50 for some new spark plugs. This should be an awesome series to follow, I’m excited to see where this cars end up.

@johngidman4574 Ай бұрын

Should have left the hood scoop off. It's air drag you don't need.😊

@sweettooth80 Ай бұрын

That looks like such a fun job

@Gargoyle2556 Ай бұрын

It always seems that these builds are very easy when the parts are supplied free of charge. All you have to do is mention the name of the supplier and abracadabra the parts show up at your door. Not the same here in the real world.

@edwardzamorski3711 Ай бұрын

I have a 2008 its a fun little car could be faster but it is what it is.

@Rundown_Racecars 20 күн бұрын

There sway bars.. anti-roll bars are completely different!

@livingsnake3903 Ай бұрын

With these mods, your 3v will finally hit break into the 3 digit mark on the dyno

@moehoward01 Ай бұрын

Much nicer looking than the new, sorta, in name only, Mustangs.

@marvinbenjamin. Ай бұрын

Should of did a cam heads pistons single turbo 383 diff upgraded oil pump.

@BlickolasCage Ай бұрын

imma watch tf outta this when i wake up

@mikehall737 Ай бұрын

Y'all should do a Ford 4.6 to 5.3 modular stroker motor build id love to see that

@magnus9165 Ай бұрын

Someone was good with TIG welding to do that standing up overhead. That takes some practice. I know, I have tried that. It is not easy.

@Watchingyou-daily Ай бұрын

2008 Mustang GT with the 4.6 V8 300 HP at block.

@cormaro13 Ай бұрын

Cool now times it by 15% for drive train loss , enjoy your slow mobile 😂

@hardknocc922 Ай бұрын

@@cormaro13I'd bet you'd jump at the chance to get a fox body mustang

@cormaro13 Ай бұрын

@@hardknocc922 eh , already got a new one , I wasn’t trying to go back that far lol

@spatulaman2753 Ай бұрын

Man, you guys really cheaped out with those flimsy seats.

@oldheadneverlacking7010 Ай бұрын

Coulda took a nap while this thing reached redline

@CrewExpendable2007 Ай бұрын

Its crazy how nobody ever knows anything about these 3V’s

@wsfwsf1497 Ай бұрын

Interesting that bolt-on braces are used in the back seat area and are structually needed.

@MapleHillMunitions Ай бұрын

Crowd control!

@lmcoolk12 Ай бұрын

That seat is moving a lot

@shanebarron2384 Ай бұрын

It would have been nice to see the alignment to take advantage of the suspension mods.

@BillClinton-x9f Ай бұрын

I would work on them seat mounts. Looks like the seat would just fly out

@rickyjackson5160 Ай бұрын

Go 1° over on the gap on the spark plugs it was the 24 put 25 on it and test it

@jonrstinkton365 Ай бұрын

Not the fastest but a canned 4.6 sounds sexy!

@thelifeofjp1996 Ай бұрын

Honestly, im a little disappointed there wasn't a 3.73 or 4.10 gear change

@dbarr8261 24 күн бұрын

I wish you would have tested before the tune then after.

@Trump-2024MAGA Ай бұрын

01:10 that's a 5th gen not a 1st gen

@dean_4.6 Ай бұрын

1st generation of the S197. There's 3 different styles, 2005-2009, 2010-2012, 2013-2014

@sneezinhatch Ай бұрын

Have a 3v with a ported whipple 3.65 liters upgraded fuel pumps and injectors, suspension pulleys makes 902 whp

@hardknocc922 Ай бұрын

Damn! You got a Instagram or something?

@scottsmith31 18 күн бұрын

13 hp from a full exhaust, tune and intake 😂😂😂

@bu.ika8channel963 Ай бұрын

Ferry good

@bluestangGT2001 Ай бұрын

Surprised they didn't do any cooling upgrades. I could go swore those 3v motors were notorious for overheating

@onescaryapothiconboi7475 Ай бұрын

5.4 3v were notorious overheating. The 4.6 didn't have the same problem. Something about the heads or cooling system on the truck motors made them prone to clogging.

@Chef-James 6 күн бұрын

I would have dumped in at least a 5w-30 oil.

@kevinlewis9151 Ай бұрын

So far just need some spray and a scramble button?

@GC_420 Ай бұрын

I looked at the charts, after the pipes and intake/tune, you got [roughly] +5 hp? Is that correct?

@SamP0rterBridges Ай бұрын

Yeah but a gain of 24 lb/ft of torque with a much smoother power band.

@ghunt81 Ай бұрын

You have to think, it already had a CAI so it probably had a tune because they don't run correctly with a CAI and no tune. Considering they kept stock cats, any gain at all after doing those mods was actually surprising.

@sp4604 Ай бұрын

why did they keep the fake hood scoop after the hood stripes?

@clarksgarageofbadhabits6803 Ай бұрын

Why not? It’s just aesthetics.

@sp4604 Ай бұрын

@@clarksgarageofbadhabits6803 its tacky and looks cheap

@nowhereman-389 Ай бұрын

Because race car….

@sp4604 Ай бұрын

@@nowhereman-389 ROTFL. race cars dont have fake hood scoops that doesnt channel air inside the engine bay to cool or add HP

@nowhereman-389 Ай бұрын

it’s giving the competition an opportunity to catch up to it due to increased drag…

@sepg5084 Ай бұрын

Are the rear seats require for it to be compliant with the racing regulations?

@richardmann4422 Ай бұрын

The brakes look like a weak point. Per rules. Race strategy would be to save brakes early. Pass everyone who's brakes are gone.

@KitchinMotorsports Ай бұрын

Well it’s only a 30 minute race for a spec class so don’t really need to save brakes. Plus there’s really 2 spots where you need to be hard on the brakes so they would be cooled down by the time you need them again. Mid Ohio is a fun track to be at.

@NWPencrawler 12 күн бұрын

Maybe I don't know the rules for the class, but "usually" in SCCA racing, there is a safety cage, not just a rear roll bar. So no halo or door bars or dash bar? Just wondering... Looks like a fun build and class to race in.

@gregkoblentz7872 4 күн бұрын

Spec mustang is for autocross and time trial type of events. Not wheel to wheel racing. For just autocross you don't even need the roll bar.

@NWPencrawler 4 күн бұрын

@@gregkoblentz7872 ah, go it. Didin't know what class or rules it was built for. Looks like a ton of fun to drive though.

@RepoDraghon Ай бұрын

I question the legitimacy of the brake rule for Mustangs cause the performance spec are Brembo Big Brakes so technically those would be a stock replacement but also an upgrade...

@jesusm2159 Ай бұрын

Wheel hop support kit?

@magnus9165 Ай бұрын

You have to remember that it is only 280 cubes.

@TheSeangerber 29 күн бұрын

anyone with more than 2 pens in their pocket is suspect

@patrickchavez3848 28 күн бұрын

I gotta ask, did you all mate the breaks to the rotors? You didnt show that being done so ya I'm a bit concerned..

@Crodgers88 Ай бұрын

When you do the Dyno at least stop it at the same rpm

@mll7674 Ай бұрын

When did the intake change. Didn’t see that mod. From the beginning it looked like a boss style intake. Then wrong 34:41 showed a stock 4.6L intake manifold. Didn’t see that change through the video. As I watched it 27 times looking for the switcheroo.

@wb5mgr Ай бұрын

3-4 years on a set of race pads 😂… Try every race my friend.

@josebernal4705 19 күн бұрын

Put a cherry bomb exhaust or flow masters....sound better and bit hp tq

@ldstirling Ай бұрын

You did a brake job on the car, but is it still using stock DOT3 brake fluid, rather than DOT4 or DOT5 for the track? Did you even replace the original brake fluid from 2008 with fresh brake fluid at all? No coolant flush or transmission fluid replacement at all either???