Ultimate 305 SBC Builds: Mild Street vs Stroker

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POWERNATION

POWERNATION

Күн бұрын

The guys bring the well-known but anemic 305 Small Block Chevy into the shop by viewer request. They teardown a used and abused 305 and get it ready for some mild upgrades for the everyday hot rodder. The transformation continues as we assemble our Small Block Chevy with new upgrades. Once it's put together, we’ll put it on the dyno and see if the 305 can make respectable power with some modern touches. Then, we bring our it back for a second round of racier upgrades as we try and squeeze even more power out of this little small block.
0:00 - Intro & Baselines
3:06 - Teardown
7:18 - Cleanup
15:54 - Assembly
37:54 - Dyno Runs
46:38 - Additional Upgrades
58:05 - Final Dyno Runs
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Summit Racing: Mahle PowerPak Piston and Ring Kit
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Summit Racing: Scat Pro Comp I-Beam Connecting Rods
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ARP: Head Bolts
CWT Industries: Multi-Bal 5500
Scat Crankshafts: Scat Series 9000 Cast Steel Crankshaft
Sunnen Products Company: Sunnen SV-15 Honing Machine
Comp Cams: Keyway Adjustable Billet Timing Set
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Duralast: Water Pump
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Summit Racing: COMP Cams Evolution Retro-Fit Hydraulic Roller Lifters
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Summit Racing: Trick Flow Super 23 Cylinder Heads
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Summit Racing: Moroso Oil Pan
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Summit Racing: Moroso Timing Pointer
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Pro Ring Filer
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Pro SBC Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
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Summit Racing: Trick Flow Chromoly Pushrods
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Summit Racing: Trick Flow Roller Rocker Arms
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ARP: Fasteners
ARP: Intake Manifold Bolt Kit
ARP: Oil Pan Bolt Kit
ARP: Oil Pump Driveshaft
ARP: Oil Pump Stud Kit
ARP: Rod Bolt Stretch Gauge Digital Billet
Duralast: Edelbrock Victor Jr. Intake Manifold
Fluidampr: Harmonic Damper
Goodson Shop Supplies: Cam Bearing Installer
Holley: MSD Pro-Billet Distributor
Holley: Quick Fuel Black Diamond 750CFM Carburetor
Lubrication Specialties: Hot Shot's Secret Adrenaline Assembly Lubricant
Summit Racing: Trick Flow SUper 23 195 Cylinder Heads
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Summit Racing: Cast Aluminum Timing Cover
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Summit Racing: Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
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Summit Racing: Trick Flow Chromoly Pushrods
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Summit Racing: Trick Flow Rocker Stud Girdles for Chevy
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ARP: Rocker Arm Studs
Callies: Compstar Connecting Rods
Callies: Compstar Crankshaft
Comp Cams: Conical Valve Springs
Comp Cams: Endure-X Solid Roller Lifters
Comp Cams: Keyway Adjustable Billet Timing Set
Comp Cams: Ultra Pro Magnum XD Roller Rocker Arms
CWT Industries: Multi-Bal 5500
DSS Racing: Piston Rings
DSS Racing: Small Block Chevy FXK2 Series Piston Set
Edelbrock: Victor E 23 Degree Intake Manifold
Fluidampr: Harmonic Balancer
Holley: MSD Pro-Billet Distributor
Holley: Quick Fuel Q-Series Carburetor 950CFM
Lubrication Specialties: Hot Shot's Secret Adrenaline Assembly Lubricant
MSC: Vectrax Milling Machine

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@jethrosmadscience
@jethrosmadscience 2 ай бұрын
Build it, make it loud, kids will smile. The automotive community is awesome. God bless us, everyone.
@billlevassiur5891
@billlevassiur5891 2 ай бұрын
Great to see someone doing something with the forgotten 305 chevy
@outfield1988
@outfield1988 2 күн бұрын
Agree had one in my Monza
@George-tz1cv
@George-tz1cv 3 ай бұрын
305, 307, the same as 283, 327, etc. So why not? Cool build. Who doesn’t want a 500 hp hot rod!
@davep4557
@davep4557 3 ай бұрын
I came here for this comment. Lol. 283 family has multiple common cubic inch sizes.
@Val_Killmore
@Val_Killmore 3 ай бұрын
The only issue with the 305 is the odd bore size. Thats a large reason no one builds them.
@turbodpv5908
@turbodpv5908 2 ай бұрын
My Dad and I test drove brand new Chevy Monza's with the, then new, 4.3 liter 262 Small block V8's and 4 Speed's. They were gutless so we ended up buying a brand new Oldsmobile Starfire Firenza with the 305 V8 and the 4 Speed. It was a blast to drive and much faster than the 262. Oddly we also test drove the new Buick Skyhawks but they had the 231 V6 engines that would end up in Dad's 87 Buick T-Type Grand National much later, but with a Turbo and intercooler.
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
Yo momma? IDK, maybe you've got a cool momma!
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 2 ай бұрын
It would be better to start with an engine that was already kind of hot from the factory, 283, 327 or 350. The 305 is a smog motor created in the malaise era from the 350.
@duanedavisson4074
@duanedavisson4074 2 ай бұрын
Have a 78 Regal with 425,000 on its 305 with original pistons. Have owned it for 29 years. Runs like champ and has been the most reliable engine I've ever owned. I'm a Ford guy but I love this little Chevy.
@davidronevicz6207
@davidronevicz6207 3 ай бұрын
That video is awsome! 511 HP out of a 305 (oh wait pardon me, 340 ci block) is stunning. Anybody would be proud to have that engine under their hood. Great job!! Very educational!!
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
No, not anybody, I think it's a ridiculous build, and not based in any logical thinking at all, and I'd be embarrassed to say I built that. ha ha ha
@BadLuckGarage
@BadLuckGarage 2 ай бұрын
@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty I agree. Pretty dumb way to spend 10 grand. Could have just shoved a big cam and springs in an otherwise stock 5.3 and made the same power for around $500 in parts.🤣 The fact that they had to spend that kind of money just to make Cam only LS power tells you exactly why nobody wants a 305.
@bigredtruck42
@bigredtruck42 Ай бұрын
Do that same build.... But start with a 350 and you'll learn why nobody spends money on a 305
@sebbonxxsebbon6824
@sebbonxxsebbon6824 Ай бұрын
@@bigredtruck42 Yeah, a stroker 350 would make 1200 hp. Dart block, 434.
@blownmouse
@blownmouse 2 ай бұрын
Amazing build. For those of us that still rely on 1st gen small blocks for their hot rods this was awesome. Imagine a numbers matching late 70's early 80's Camaro that came with a 305 with this build up under the hood.
@TheBballinger
@TheBballinger 8 күн бұрын
Yeah!!! Cause numbers matching 305 cars are awesome!!!! - said no one ever 😂😂😂
@blownmouse
@blownmouse 8 күн бұрын
@TheBballinger 🤣🤣 And your opinion on this subject matters..said no one ever!
@spiketheimpaler4698
@spiketheimpaler4698 2 күн бұрын
Had a HO 305 tuned port injected 87 IROC I always wanted to pull the 5.6 out of my truck purt the tbi on it and throw it into the the IROC my 5.7 was pulled from a suburban originaly. Have 2 307's to build and then onto 3 1500cc mg midget engines to build.
@TheAnonymous1one
@TheAnonymous1one 3 ай бұрын
Glad you did something different with a 305. I remember there was tons of them back in the day. Choked down with smog stuff
@dancampbell4400
@dancampbell4400 3 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Nice to see an engine build that’s out of the typical sbc/ls platforms! Never once considered the potential of a 305 but that’s why you guys are the experts and not me 😂 great work as always Pat and Frankie 👍🏻
@Bobthebuilder.69
@Bobthebuilder.69 3 ай бұрын
You can make anything fast with enough money.
@jamesberdine8574
@jamesberdine8574 3 ай бұрын
Speed costs, how fast do you want to spend
@AndrewDRoyappa
@AndrewDRoyappa 3 ай бұрын
how is this out of the typical, it's literally another SBC lol
@dancampbell4400
@dancampbell4400 3 ай бұрын
@@AndrewDRoyappa I meant just different from the typical 350, 327, etc. The 305 is kind of the redhead step child, don’t hardly ever see anyone building them
@AndrewDRoyappa
@AndrewDRoyappa 3 ай бұрын
@@dancampbell4400 I see, yeah fair enough. I'd love to see them build something other than an American V8 though
@Robert-xd5gw
@Robert-xd5gw Ай бұрын
Man all these parts and labor ain't cheap! You're sponsors deserve a hug, maybe a couple! Thanks fellows for what you do! Excellent show! Good and clean!!!!
@richardoliver1303
@richardoliver1303 22 күн бұрын
Power Nation Super shows!
@1motorheads
@1motorheads 3 ай бұрын
just love the show. I would like to see build from Oldsmobile 350 rocket. Early blocks from 70"s can take like a 600hp. Greetings from Finland.
@cargotoolshop5319
@cargotoolshop5319 2 ай бұрын
BOP, BUICK OLDSMOBILE PONTIAC in respect made more power than the Chevy engine in 95% of stock forms, the Chevy is the clear winner in horse power per dollar in the aftermarket world
@rideswithhoover9789
@rideswithhoover9789 3 ай бұрын
We have a 5 litre 308 here in Australia with a 383 stroker they can make up to 650 bhp . And they can stay together for years with the right love and care.
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 3 ай бұрын
The plastic engine struggles at 3.5" stroke so any bigger is a real worry. And going that big means the heads are totally inadequate.
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it's a shed-load of work and $$$s - and depending on the specific engine used for the build base, there are still some base weaknesses.
@rideswithhoover9789
@rideswithhoover9789 3 ай бұрын
Your right ,about $12000 here in oz but like I said love and care . But you could say that about any motor .
@_TheBreaker_
@_TheBreaker_ 3 ай бұрын
Waste of money building a 308 for a HQ, unless it's a matching number 81837 You still end up with a 308. Spend the money on big block and wave goodbye in the rear vision mirror
@kurtisstutzman7056
@kurtisstutzman7056 3 ай бұрын
Is it a Chevy/ GM engine...?
@Geoduck.
@Geoduck. 3 ай бұрын
Love that you guys did a 305 because many of us use one every day. There is no replacement for displacement BUT a 305 has it's place too.
@arnulfob3454
@arnulfob3454 3 ай бұрын
Indeed I still have one in my 82 Z28
@TheMailmanOfSteel
@TheMailmanOfSteel 3 ай бұрын
Mostly in the trashcan with that shitty small bore.
@edwinbeck456
@edwinbeck456 3 ай бұрын
​@TheMailmanOfSteel small bore engines out Rev big blocks. So what, I'm building a bored out 305 and it's gonna be a monster
@arnulfob3454
@arnulfob3454 3 ай бұрын
@@edwinbeck456 sounds good!!!
@SquarebodyStuff
@SquarebodyStuff 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMailmanOfSteel whats the bore of a 4.8 or 5.3 Ls based engine?? hint, it's smaller than a .040 over 305 bore.
@BigUnk85
@BigUnk85 3 ай бұрын
That's awesome never expected that outta a stroked 305 nice. May not be practical but It was nice to see
@79huddy
@79huddy 3 ай бұрын
You should see how much the sprint car guys get out of a 305 stroker with a hilborn setup
@spankyham9607
@spankyham9607 3 ай бұрын
I love my junkyard 305 I built 16 years ago. 77 Nova flat top engine, late 80's swirly heads kitchen table ground for more flow with an edel brock performer cam and TPI, it moves my 83 Firebird out of it's own way very nicely. I can keep up with modern Mustangs.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 ай бұрын
Gotta love being an underdog, i know i do.. i have a 281ci 2v TFS 38cc top end built 4.6L Modular that has spanked a few ls 5.3 swapped Silverados n they're always surprised to know i kept it 2v 4.6L rather than swap for an ls.. i drive a 09 P71.. Congrats on your build..
@geesss8675
@geesss8675 2 ай бұрын
Are you a Chronic Masterbater?
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
@@geesss8675 ROFL!!! 🤣
@romper4444
@romper4444 2 ай бұрын
What do you consider "keeping up" with a 450hp coyote, 3 lights back? Lol
@andrewdonohue1853
@andrewdonohue1853 2 ай бұрын
i had a 89 camaro years ago. it had a 305 TBI, i swapped in a 350 TBI and it still didnt have the power i wanted. i ditched those swirl port heads and it woke up. it had a bored throttle body, the correct PROM, a high flow fuel pump and short tube headers
@chuckzamzow9
@chuckzamzow9 3 ай бұрын
I wanted to build a 335 stroker 22 year's ago for the old Monte I had, great video 👍
@makahai4315
@makahai4315 3 ай бұрын
This is without a doubt the best small block program, based on the one that no one wants 305 and that is available to everyone lying around in many places, now add a blow thru carb, and shut up once again those who criticize 305, cheer up guys.
@robertloostrom1228
@robertloostrom1228 2 ай бұрын
I have 3 of them 😂
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 ай бұрын
I don't think 305 critics will ever need to "shut up"😂
@LPATRON19
@LPATRON19 2 ай бұрын
I had a built .305 I had done at a shop in my 85 Grand Prix with a built 700r4 trans. That thing was almost as fast as my stock 2010 ss Camaro.
@georgedreisch2662
@georgedreisch2662 2 ай бұрын
What about taking this into a GM TPI configuration for those stock applications?
@jackgorman445
@jackgorman445 2 ай бұрын
@RonaldReed-ul9du
@RonaldReed-ul9du 3 ай бұрын
For people looking for lightening the reciprocating weight, use 305 rods, theyre lighter as are the counter balancers on the crank. That boys and girls is what a stock circle track engine builder, a winning one, does on 350's to help them rev quicker off the corner, and that wins races.
@MaryBrownForFreedom
@MaryBrownForFreedom 3 ай бұрын
I had a 1979 GMC Jimmy with a gutless 305... so worn I added oil when pressure dropped to zero... ignition was messed up and it would backfire and about blow the engine apart... it was a mess! That Jimmy was our deer hunting field truck... it got flogged across plowed fields at 50mph...
@pinsandscrews6459
@pinsandscrews6459 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I think what hurt the reputation of the 305 had a LOT to do with the emissions equipment and tunes from the factory compared to the effect the emissions equipment had on the 350. The quick route to more power was to throw in a stock 350, and, if you could get one with a 4bolt main, that was a bonus. Since you also already had the 350 out of the car, it was a simple job of throwing in a new cam and heads for even more power.
@jekinneys
@jekinneys 2 ай бұрын
What really hurt it was displacement;. Otherwise the 307 would arguably been better as it had no emissions.
@JohnSmith-fi2ck
@JohnSmith-fi2ck 22 күн бұрын
@@jekinneys The last year of the 307 was 1973, when it put out a whopping 115hp, if it didn't have emission controls then I don't know what FM did wrong.
@jamayajackson5256
@jamayajackson5256 19 күн бұрын
LMAO 305 and 350 sbcs of similar years have the same emissions equipment. Wonder how many folklore and misinformation you had to dredge through to come to that conclusion
@JohnSmith-fi2ck
@JohnSmith-fi2ck 19 күн бұрын
They both made abysmal power, in the pickups some years of the 305 made as much or close to same power as the 350, bother were around 165hp
@patricklanigan
@patricklanigan 3 ай бұрын
If you want greater success extracting broken bolts using the nut welding method, you have to remove the zinc plating on the nut first. I drill out the center of the nut, and sand off the plating on the surface facing out and it works much better.
@csj9619
@csj9619 3 ай бұрын
Heck yeah. Good advice.
@stevennelson2055
@stevennelson2055 2 ай бұрын
The next step up is to weld a washer to the bolt first then a nut to the washer and bolt, better chance of fusion that way with the cheap mig welders most guys are using. Most guys cold lap for the first bit due to too much stick out and not enough heat and don’t get any fusion to the bolt and the nut just comes right off until they get it hot enough after 10 attempts to actually fuse somewhere
@craigstark2712
@craigstark2712 3 ай бұрын
That Summit Racing ring filing tool is pretty cool!
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it's only about $750!
@SquarebodyStuff
@SquarebodyStuff 3 ай бұрын
It's nice to see what this combo can make with a better cam, heads and comp ratio. Well done! These little mice can make power. My little stroked +.060 305 (I called mine a 339 as to not confuse the mopar guys ) has Speedmaster 195, 2.02/1.60 heads, summit 1107 hyd flat tappet cam, 1.6 roller rockers, same DSS racing pistons except the flat tops, 6"I beam rods, and OLD School Edelbrock Victor 4+4 intake. My combo made a very streetable 332hp @6000rpm and 309ftlbs @4950 rpm to the hubs through a sm465 4 speed, 2 piece driveshaft, and 14 bolt 1 ton rear. with a 150 shot of nitrous it made 458hp @5500rpm and 511ftlbs @3116 rpm.
@bloodhawk6252
@bloodhawk6252 2 ай бұрын
Because race truck
@steveheighton5971
@steveheighton5971 Ай бұрын
Chad's channel gives my little 305 some hope.
@SquarebodyStuff
@SquarebodyStuff Ай бұрын
@@steveheighton5971 THanks. We're finally hitting the track with it. It's begging to be beat on.
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 3 ай бұрын
I had a bone stock 305 in a new 86 Silverado. It was a gutless dog but tuff as a bull pup. I put 140K carb'd miles on the motor and it, rand it hard, and it never failed. It ran like new when I sold the truck. I didn't like it but I admired the durability
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 ай бұрын
I had an 86 Silverado, first the 700r4 went, then the 305 spun a rod bearing. 3/4 ton with 4 bbl 305, 700r4, and c clip 14 bolt. Worst of everything.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 3 ай бұрын
from 200hp to 500+hp . . . That's some serious gains! . . . there's No Shame in Those Gains ! ! !
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing but when you take the cam, big headers, and hi flow heads you can get it climbing up to 7k and the higher spin is what is netting higher power numbers
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
You could have spent the same money on a 406, and made way more power overall!! Totally impractical build!
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 ай бұрын
@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty . . that's not the point, even though you make a good point. The point of the video was to show that the same improvements and modification will work on _Almost_ any engine. But yes, it's impractical, from a financial standpoint, to put that kind of monies into that particular engine.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 ай бұрын
@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty A V8 is a V8 and with good flowing heads and bottom end parts, what is the big difference? What advantage would a 406 yield?
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
​@@jamesmedina2062 To be blunt.. gobs of torque!! Torque combined with horsepower is what makes things move, and move fast! Do the same exact build on a 305 and on a 400, and see what happens. The 400 will make approx. 65lbs ft more torque. It will lose about 8-10 hp on the top end, but the torque gained will win the race. Another benefit is, because the 400 has way more stroke, it moves the power band lower. So the 305 would operate (with a cam of 235 degrees duration @.050) from 4500-6500+ to the 400's range of 3500-5500+. Added benefit of being easier on parts, and longer lasting. Now, to make it actually fair, you could add another 0.1 to the rocker arm ratio (from 1.5 to 1.6), which would bring up the 400's hp and trq numbers even more. Because the engine has more stroke, that cam would actually be much smaller to the 400, so you could also use a bit larger cam to make up the difference. To bring the 400's rpm range up to that of the 305's, you'd want a duration @.050 of approx. 255, and about another 0.030 in lift (to stick with the original 1.5 rocker ratio). This would bring the 400's rpm range up near the 305's from 4500-6500+. Not only that, now you're making at least another 20+hp on top, and overall more torque throughout the rpm range. The cherry on top with the 400 now is, you're making in the neighborhood of an extra 15-20lbs ft of torque on the top end combined with the added hp, so massive power difference all the way around. Either way, I stick to my original comment... the 305 is a totally impractical build! Now, if you want to build it just because you want to, that's fine, it's your life, live it, I wont hold it against you, but it's still a totally impractical build. A V8 is a V8? Then why aren't people all racing with 283's instead of building 632's, and now over 900ci race engines?
@evangravitz4029
@evangravitz4029 3 ай бұрын
I am always looking forward to watching Engine Power.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 ай бұрын
Those were the days..lol
@evangravitz4029
@evangravitz4029 2 ай бұрын
@@P71ScrewHead Yeah, I used to watch Shadetree Mechanic on WPSU back in the 90s. That's how I came to watch this. It must be close to 30 years now.
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 ай бұрын
@@evangravitz4029 i don't remember that show.. But i used to watch all the shows that came on back then, especially Car n Driver n these..
@peterfinley8028
@peterfinley8028 3 ай бұрын
Always loved the 305 my first engine I ever built.
@AA_Ron155
@AA_Ron155 3 ай бұрын
Right out the gate, I was surprised by the HP on the 305, I was thinking something more along the lines of 350hp not 400hp+
@jeremyshelton1079
@jeremyshelton1079 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see what you guys could do with a 305 with TPI. See how much power you can get out of a "stock" setup from the 80s.
@91CavGT5
@91CavGT5 2 ай бұрын
Definitely, and not immediately ditch the TPI setup for a better flowing carb. What kind of power can you get out of the TPI? Maybe setup the engine for more of a torque monster than trying for peak hp.
@WanderingRobotStudio
@WanderingRobotStudio 3 ай бұрын
Go Pat and Frankie! Do an episode on dynoing a propane-powered engine!
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 3 ай бұрын
It'll have slightly less hp but the engine will last 2 to 3 times longer along with the benefit of needing fewer oil changes.
@macthemec
@macthemec 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelbrinks8089propane is the equivalent of 100 octane gasoline, its got potential as a fuel
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 3 ай бұрын
@@macthemec It's been used for years in forklifts. Inside many forklifts is a Chevy 4.3L V6 engine. Same with propane & natural gas used in generators. Many semi's use a combination of diesel with propane injection. If propane costed the same as gasoline mile for mile. An engine is way better off burning propane than gasoline.
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
Just figure on losing about 30 to 40ish hp overall with propane.
@jonnymac8925
@jonnymac8925 2 ай бұрын
"Many" semis don't use that at all lol. It's VERY rare.
@mikkokuorttinen3113
@mikkokuorttinen3113 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this truly lovely build up of 305cid!
@Boombox1967
@Boombox1967 3 ай бұрын
Awesome build! I have a 305 in my 77 Firebird Esprit! It was rebuilt before I bought it. The guy who re built it, put a truck cam in it. From what type of truck, IDK!! It also has been upgraded from the stock 2 barrel to a 4 barrel Edelbrock 600 cfm carb and manifold. I dont have any performance numbers on it , since the upgrades. Love the work you guys do! Keep it up!!
@catsaregovernmentspies
@catsaregovernmentspies 3 ай бұрын
So does it have any nuts?
@brynredmon7869
@brynredmon7869 3 ай бұрын
Boy this is some kinda handy. I got rid of my last 305 at 19, it was a gutless TURD! Haven’t owned one since. But if I had know all this then I maybe could have had some heart in that old ‘81 Chevy single cab step side.
@kellarcheron6675
@kellarcheron6675 3 ай бұрын
One of the best looking motors you guys have done, she's beggin for a turbo
@downshifter4179
@downshifter4179 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@cupitosbornejr.7905
@cupitosbornejr.7905 3 ай бұрын
Considering how much they got out of the 4.3, it's power level should be pretty good
@mikef-gi2dg
@mikef-gi2dg 3 ай бұрын
If that turbo 4.3 was available and for sale, I would seriously consider buying it. My 75 Monza 2+2 would love it.
@Frank0da0Tank
@Frank0da0Tank 2 ай бұрын
Already pushing the power limits on a 2 bolt main block, turbo would absolutely grenade it at that point!
@zachniverson8816
@zachniverson8816 3 ай бұрын
I have yet to see you guys run a 327. Start off with the best heads (double hump) from back in the day (maybe ported and a good port matched intake) put flat tops in that makes about 10 to 1 with a dutnov grind 30/30 cam and a 650 carb. Then build it again with a lighter forged rotating assembly with lighter rods and pistons and good hardware. 11.5 to 1 compression is completely doable with aluminum pistons and heads with mls gaskets. Stick a healthy sollid roller cam to make power to about 7500-7800 rpms. Get a good set of AFR heads and a fully ported and polished edlebrock rpm intake with a carb spacer. Playing with different styles and widths could make good content then try a as cast vic jr then one with just the ports cleaned up both port matched to the AFRs of course. This could be a three part series. 1st Run the first engine with 91. 2nd the new combo and fully ported rpm air gap and different spacers with 91+race gas octane booster. 3rd with the vic jr as cast 91+ booster and then ported with race gas. It would just be cool and very interesting and enlightening to see/compare the difference hp/trq numbers to give people an idea where they could potentially save a lot of money and still make good numbers or if its worth spending just a couple hundred bucks and make awesome power. You guys do too much LS stuff and dont get me started on how many different small and big block Ford combos you've done.. By far and away the 327 has been snubbed by powernation for more than a decade! Time to show this forgotten gem some well deserved attention! I mean you guys have litteraly done 283 350s maybe 377 383s 400 and 400+ cubic in small block chevys but never a 327 to my knowledge.
@elreyyakko
@elreyyakko 2 ай бұрын
Id love to see a 327 get built. Great motors
@jethrosmadscience
@jethrosmadscience 2 ай бұрын
I got to give it to you. I put off watching this thinking the same thing. 305? Then Pat goes into a Honing tutorial! This is what I want from my machinist. Excellence! Of course, as a builder, you must inspect and verify. Great knowledge, you can find them anywhere.
@czechappy
@czechappy Ай бұрын
This proved what I've been telling all these young engine guys that think they tested a 327 chevy, Unless you were alive in my era you don't know about the cars or engine perfomace of my era !! If you test a 327 you'll need to test it right. leaded fuel (103 to 107 octane fuel) and high compression (11 to 1 or 12 to 1) and headers Some of the same engines ran better because the automobile industry wasn't perfect. Thank you Powernation for opening some people eyes.. But most us knew that 305 was in the 265 family.
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing a 305 Build!! I've been waiting for this. Loved it!!!😃👍👍
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 3 ай бұрын
All the power is in those trick flow heads and the right camshaft. Nobody is making that kind of power that easily with a set of chevy cast iron heads
@davido.newell4566
@davido.newell4566 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Beautiful a story and I'm looking forward to to completing the process of seeing what is done! In the late 1960s I put a 327 and a 283 together and began a hobby, sometimes quite expensive, which has not left me yet, though I'm happily pursuing (at 80 years of age disappears to be totally appropriate). longevity and good function rather than short-term go fast!😅
@cart-wheels
@cart-wheels 2 ай бұрын
I've got several 305 engines thanks to my Thirdgen F-Body love. From factory q-jet to TPI, and love seeing this episode.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 2 ай бұрын
That's a pretty spicy 305! Now imagine this engine with a medium-size turbo, and a milder valvetrain.
@TempoDrift1480
@TempoDrift1480 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the straight forward presentation without the over the top personalities. Some of those guys on these shows are so cringe it's impossible to watch the program. So again, thank you guys. This doesn't give me second hand embarrasment.
@LordHolley
@LordHolley 2 ай бұрын
I love it! I really like having a motor that revs out. They sound so good and I think are just more fun to drive.
@paullandvik6467
@paullandvik6467 2 ай бұрын
Dropped my jaw buddy thank you for finally making this video
@Magwin300
@Magwin300 3 ай бұрын
Finally, a new episode! I was having withdrawals haha.
@kenjohnson5498
@kenjohnson5498 3 ай бұрын
Had an elder gentlemen build me a 305 stroker in an old Buick Regal and he built the transmission also, hands down the fastest car i ever owned
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
So, not much of a hotrodder history you're saying? Got it!
@briansawdo6245
@briansawdo6245 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I have a 305 crate motor I want to use in a 1959 Apache truck project. It’s good to know the potential of these engines.
@joelpierce3940
@joelpierce3940 2 ай бұрын
I have a 307, with forged pistons, moly rings, windage tray, 2X hump heads, solid lifter fuelie cam, 700 double pumper, etc. 7,000 rpm almost daily. Never let go.
@billymichaels2889
@billymichaels2889 3 ай бұрын
A 305 based 340 moreless. LS firing order and a stroke op. All natural aspiration. I’d kill to have that bullet. GREAT JOB GUYS!!!
@larryw5429
@larryw5429 3 ай бұрын
How much you bet Richard Holdener is geeking out on this video!
@davidp2391
@davidp2391 3 ай бұрын
He already has some 305 performance videos up. You should go check them out.
@brianb8489
@brianb8489 3 ай бұрын
He's probably thinking if he can blow it up on the dyno😂
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 3 ай бұрын
I bet he's not.
@DOCTRJ
@DOCTRJ 3 ай бұрын
Hes ready to go Plus T probably already has 🍻💯🤠👍 cheers Richard!
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 3 ай бұрын
Hes an LS fan boy. He dont care.
@Jesus-zy5wt
@Jesus-zy5wt 2 ай бұрын
I got a 305 as well, absolutely love it and was waiting to watch this episode because of the data one can learn from this. Yeah it’s cool to hop up a 305, but most are driving between 2000 and 3000 rpm, kinda disappointed at the power band within that rpm range, but overall I’m glad all did this pretty interesting
@brandonlittle6444
@brandonlittle6444 3 ай бұрын
I am so impressed at the quality of this show! Genuine quality!
@jasonburger3085
@jasonburger3085 2 ай бұрын
My dad always said 305 and 307 Chevys were the parts that hit floor and kicked around the factory !
@blainenicholson1066
@blainenicholson1066 2 ай бұрын
He wasn't very bright
@joshkrause2977
@joshkrause2977 Ай бұрын
@@blainenicholson1066what’s the point of being a D-ring?
@imonaroll9502
@imonaroll9502 3 ай бұрын
This episode is 30 years too late. 😂😂😂
@NOWB504
@NOWB504 3 ай бұрын
Not really ppl still running the 305
@dwightschrute3862
@dwightschrute3862 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 305 in my car so I’m seeing how this turns out and see if it’s a better idea than buying a different motor
@davidp2391
@davidp2391 3 ай бұрын
I mean not really, I still have four 305s in my shop. I'm sure there's plenty of other people that do also.
@cailcampbell5890
@cailcampbell5890 3 ай бұрын
​@@NOWB504 Have you tried to buy a rebuild kit for a 305 recently? 😮
@minibikemadman
@minibikemadman 3 ай бұрын
they all our are lol
@homeresq2135
@homeresq2135 2 ай бұрын
My dad's 1986 chevy c10 had a 305 and it lasted more than 300,000 miles original and it still ran good all the time. So 38 years later it's getting a new 350 with vortec heads and a freshly rebuilt transmission.
@CentralStateMower
@CentralStateMower 23 күн бұрын
Totally shocked by how much power they pulled out of the little 305! Awesome NA numbers for what most hotrodders consider a "throw away" engine!
@paulmac9634
@paulmac9634 3 ай бұрын
Nicely done gentlemen!!
@djrowe10
@djrowe10 3 ай бұрын
Really they are mainly seen being used in certain stock car racing classes. I have seen them at the shop with splayed caps and built up pretty powerful running high rpms and living just as long as the 350 engine. Interesting video for sure but I am a big block chevy/ford guy for life 😂
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 ай бұрын
The BBF/BBC are no joke, but lil engines do hurt big block engine's feelings at times.. i too am a big block guy myself, can't beat the raw power they make in n/a form..
@t0mn8r35
@t0mn8r35 2 ай бұрын
Engine Power is my favourite channel I love all of the engine builds.
@camshend
@camshend 2 ай бұрын
Great build that got a lot of hate. These two guys are the best combo the show has had. Along with the awesome equipment.
@RembranttheDJ
@RembranttheDJ 3 ай бұрын
I just sold my 58,000 mile numbers matching 305 out of my 1985 Z/28. And bought a 5.3 LS I guess I'll stroke that and kick myself at the same time because something told me as soon as I sell this engine technology was going to catch up to this motor and do something awesome.... Thanks Pat & Frankie!!!!
@94XJ
@94XJ 3 ай бұрын
This was from 2014 so the tech aint exactly new. For the cost of this build a 5.3 should have a lot more to offer, though.
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 2 ай бұрын
You better go get that matching numbers 305 back! No kidding
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead 2 ай бұрын
i kicked a few 5.3 ls swapped asses with my 4.6L 2v P71.. But that's just what Fords do..lol Have fun with your build tho, man..
@macthemec
@macthemec 3 ай бұрын
Cool video but i would have liked to see the stroker with the same heads/cam as the first build so we could compare stroker vs non stroker power directly
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 ай бұрын
I can already tell you what would happen. It would lose horsepower and gain torque, which in this case would probably be a good thing, being it's going to go into someone's street beater.
@KH102695
@KH102695 2 ай бұрын
Love it!! Perfect engine for an early Nova or early truck build. It's great to see these types of builds.
@CaptainNero
@CaptainNero 2 ай бұрын
The first version would be a nice budget. Friendly wake up for a 305.
@rodericklewis832
@rodericklewis832 3 ай бұрын
Please build s 5.2 318 magnum. Lots of people love the smaller small blocks.
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB 3 ай бұрын
that engine was a beast! i used to beat lightings when i had my dakota.
@brianb8489
@brianb8489 3 ай бұрын
​@@LetsGoBrandon-FJB👈 fake news
@sidneysanders5726
@sidneysanders5726 3 ай бұрын
380hp lighting against a 150hp or 230hp, depending on year and computer management. Yeah right!
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB 3 ай бұрын
@@brianb8489 👈🤡🤡🤡
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB
@LetsGoBrandon-FJB 3 ай бұрын
@@sidneysanders5726 yeah ok 🤡
@pastorjohnculbertson661
@pastorjohnculbertson661 3 ай бұрын
I build a lot of streetable 335 strokers from the 305. Everyone's favorite is the 305 block with a Dana internally balanced 400 crank , trw ceramic top pistons, Bolin rods edelbrock airgap intake and 202 heads. 525 hp 477 torque. I also build a 357 copo style 350 that's 357 hp. 310 torque that's a great motor for your old square body trucks.
@luckyPiston
@luckyPiston 2 ай бұрын
What part # are those TRW's ? tks
@pastorjohnculbertson661
@pastorjohnculbertson661 2 ай бұрын
@@luckyPiston L2486f with top gold coating.
@luckyPiston
@luckyPiston 2 ай бұрын
@@pastorjohnculbertson661 ah , those 2486 pistons are a 1.56" comp height piston, so you must be using 400 rods ..... and that internal balance crank is gonna be swinging some pretty big counterweights which are not 400 rod compatible ? so how are you making this thing fit together ?
@pastorjohnculbertson661
@pastorjohnculbertson661 2 ай бұрын
@luckyPiston My in-house lead man worked with team force for 15 years he is a wiz at wringing out every ounce of horse power possible out of a motor. We're working on doing a full video build of a 335 stroker/ blown hitting 600 horse.
@shunbailey6177
@shunbailey6177 2 ай бұрын
How much do you charge to rebuild the 305 your way?
@joeottsoulbikes415
@joeottsoulbikes415 3 ай бұрын
Vice Grip Garage did a 305 budget build episode three years back where he called out spacific Camero heads and Intake manifold using standard flat tapit lifters, rods and valves, using a timing Gear instead of chain, a spacific oil pan, pump, fuel pump, carb, water pump, purting and polishing the oil ports and head air runners and with the spacific pistons and rods he called out it Dynoed at 345HP
@thomasshirley5046
@thomasshirley5046 2 ай бұрын
Im so glad to see y'all finally do a poor mans rebuild ive had so many 305's in my life nice build now go enjoy
@jdrods1519
@jdrods1519 3 ай бұрын
Awesome number for the 305! About the same as the Ford 302 🇺🇸
@Magwin300
@Magwin300 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we Ford fans have to share builds with the Chevy fans.
@georgetinc9578
@georgetinc9578 3 ай бұрын
You should ask them to do the Chevy 302...... it was a 1 year engine that if i remember right was outlawed.........
@jdrods1519
@jdrods1519 3 ай бұрын
@@Magwin300 true
@jdrods1519
@jdrods1519 3 ай бұрын
@@georgetinc9578 that’s would be awesome also! Richard Holdener did the DZ302 Engine not long ago along with the Boss 302.
@user-du8cs8sn2v
@user-du8cs8sn2v 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I was surprised to see it run a Victor Jr. with 305 cubes and a tiny 218@0.050" camshaft. It worked nicely but I can't help wondering how it would have worked with an air gap dual plane.
@gregtheegg3576
@gregtheegg3576 2 ай бұрын
I guess if u have an unlimited budget...
@bearryder6725
@bearryder6725 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic I love small displacement and Light weight!
@brad3139
@brad3139 2 ай бұрын
I've always been curious about a 305 build, cool video guys!
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 3 ай бұрын
Pretty damn pointless to build a 3.75 stroke 305 instead of a 350
@ramentaryramblings
@ramentaryramblings 2 ай бұрын
factory motor class? (I'm not a drag nerd but I've heard of something like that before. I'm probably wrong tho) completely agree tho
@JS-kd7jf
@JS-kd7jf Ай бұрын
Well that's your opinion,, and like ARMPITS EVERYONE HAS ONE AND MOST OF THEM STINK😮😂😂😂😂😮
@JS-kd7jf
@JS-kd7jf Ай бұрын
That's your opinion. Keep it to yourself.
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 Ай бұрын
Anyone on planet earth can find a hyd roller 350 core motor for $500. Why would anyone in their right mind spend massive $$ to stroke a 305, then be stuck with small-bore heads?
@kylemilligan752
@kylemilligan752 Ай бұрын
@@JS-kd7jf No, this isn't opinion. Compare a 3.75 stroke 305 to a stock 350. The 305 based engine will require heads that cost more and flow less because of the small bore
@spinynorman887
@spinynorman887 3 ай бұрын
1:46 in and you're still on intro and recap! WE GET IT! GET THE HELL ON WITH IT!
@jasonruetz2306
@jasonruetz2306 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I love my happy little 305 in my 86 C10 shortbed. 305 is a legitimate little V8.
@timothymilam732
@timothymilam732 3 ай бұрын
I found that if you drill a hole into the center of a broken bolt before you weld the nut on, you get a better chance of getting the best chance of actually getting a bite into the bolt itself with the weld. Then shock it with a small ball peen hammer or air hammer as you're applying pressure to the nut. Then if it moves slightly, then go the opposite direction until it stops. Blast it with whatever you're choice is, and repeat until the threads turn freely as it comes out of whatever it was broken off inside. Tends to not break off the weld attaching the nut as often in my experience. PS How about a 1980 Pontiac 301 which was in the trans am for that year, as well as the turbo version. The NA version is what I've always been curious about seeing what it's capable of. I mean the DZ 302 was such a Bad asset, so why not the 301 Pontiac being equally as successful if possible. I don't know honestly why it can't be, even matching the specs, down to doing whatever is needed to cast iorn Pontiac heads, and doing everything possible to match cam intake carb which shouldn't be hard nowadays
@SnowMan68
@SnowMan68 2 ай бұрын
My 78 Nova has a 305 and I have had it rebuilt and runs amazing!!
@uhisthisthingon1984
@uhisthisthingon1984 3 ай бұрын
My Dad replaced the 4.3 V6 out of his '88 Chevy Cheyenne with a 305 from a '79 El'Camino, which came with the transmission also. That truck would still be around, had he swapped the rear end for a 12 bolt. Or at least changed the diff fluid a time or two....lol. But that 305 really livened that truck up, along with that transmission.
@troymecey
@troymecey 2 ай бұрын
The 96 and up Vortec 305s are a fantastic engine. I dropped one in my 86 GMC after i messed up the 350. The 305 was free, so i figured it would be good till I fixed the 350. That was 10 years ago, lol. I used a edelbrock performer knockoff intake and the original Qjet. Headers and 2 1/2" dual exhaust woke it up.
@SamReynolds-pe9ww
@SamReynolds-pe9ww 2 ай бұрын
I gotta tell yall. I found a low hour very good condition boat motor SBC that I thought was a 350. I just last week found out through the casting number it’s a 305 and I was disappointed and then yall drop this video 😂😂😂😂 insane timing! The car gods want me to drop it in my 93 Sierra after all 💪🔥
@Soundsofthewood
@Soundsofthewood 2 ай бұрын
Just get a 350. You will pay the same to build and the 350 has more to offer. Actually the 350 can get 500hp for less money. Only use the 305 if you just need a engine to get by.
@SamReynolds-pe9ww
@SamReynolds-pe9ww 2 ай бұрын
@@Soundsofthewood I’ve been told that and I do get it. But this boat motor was $free.99 and it’s already got forged internals and a cam. Also not really worried about making insane horsepower. If I copy the rest of this build from the heads up and get close to 400 or more I’m happy. 💪
@TotallyHuckedGarage
@TotallyHuckedGarage 2 ай бұрын
Very cool to see. So many people (myself included) have just tossed 305s into the scrap heap. I've got one left laying around, I guess I'll stash it away for a someday "why not" build
@bryanhill3041
@bryanhill3041 2 ай бұрын
I threw so many away!!!! Even the ones that came with the roller cams !!!
@NorthernHDrider
@NorthernHDrider 2 ай бұрын
Awesome project!! Grew up with these being a boat anchor. Do own one on propane sitting in an old school bus. Itching to pull it and make it more efficient. But to see parts off a counter make over 500 horsepower is great. Great job, hope to see a chevy 302 come up
@StuartBlake-iz6rf
@StuartBlake-iz6rf 3 ай бұрын
Excellent job. A small V8 is just as fun to build. Plus it's bragging rights with the boys. Good job, I believe you guys are in Franklin.
@baukevanderkooi8712
@baukevanderkooi8712 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for thinking about the small blocks. Unfortunately in the Netherlands it is harder and more expensive to find parts, let alone a whole block. But I'll see what i can do with my 305 to refresh and upgrade it for my 79 Malibu. Thanks again for the information.
@howlinhog
@howlinhog 2 ай бұрын
There are lots of collectable 350 SBC heads. Few people realize that the 305 heads are a great choice for modification because there is so much room for custom modification.
@rolfpearson2148
@rolfpearson2148 2 ай бұрын
I am super impressed with 305 stroker. If you compare it to some of the "legendary " motors you have done in the past such as the Ford 351 2v and 4v it out performed them. Well done 305
@lesliecluett6969
@lesliecluett6969 3 ай бұрын
Great Job glad you guys did something different like the 305 I haven't seen you guys do a gen 2 lt1 yet keep up the good work
@johnie9497
@johnie9497 3 ай бұрын
Love the series guys and impressive numbers but for the same dollars a 350 or 400 would make even more power which I think you mentioned. I've had them all 305, 307, 327, 350 and 400s. My 406 with a milder cam beats them all, dollar per HP, ET and seat of the pants fun. Should have done a giveaway on that stage 1 instead of tearing it apart.🙂
@adammontano9017
@adammontano9017 17 күн бұрын
When you went to remove that broken bolt. I believe that hole isn’t blind and keeps on going into the water passage. Instead of doing all you did, just far up an oxy, settling torch and torch it out. The bolt is made out of steel, the block is made out of iron, which, which has a much higher melting point so you can safely torch out the steel without harming the block.
@RCSmith90
@RCSmith90 2 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic series guys. It gives hope and motivation.
@cedricwilson2055
@cedricwilson2055 3 ай бұрын
Dead nuts on that hone job!!!
@Turbo4Joe363
@Turbo4Joe363 Ай бұрын
Being a FORD guy, even I know the Chevy fan's answer to a wasted POS 305. Junkyard 5.3 LS FTW! Lol I can't count how many 305 IROC-Zs I walked with my '85 Mustang GT 5.0. Even 5.7 TPI Auto (too bad, no 5 speed!) IROC-Zs were easy to gap.
@angelovasilikos7980
@angelovasilikos7980 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video guys. Even if no one wants to build this the reasons you discussed everyone wanted to know what this package would produce On someone else's dime. Lol. Great video and very tempting to build a fun 305 stroker lol :)
@BackyardBeeKeepingNuevo
@BackyardBeeKeepingNuevo 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for building this.
@thomaskapp8306
@thomaskapp8306 3 ай бұрын
i got a stock 305 in my 1990 pickup andi love it . cant think what one like this one would feel like in the truck
@danielsteward5090
@danielsteward5090 Ай бұрын
I am really impressed with those numbers this 339 made. 511 HP, not bad for a pump gas 340 inch small block Chevy. Granted if I had put those heads,the cam, intake and carb on my 326hp.327 it would most likely make the 525 HP I was saying this 340 would make while guessing during that last pull. I think you should build an old mid 90s LT-1 so I can put a shopping list together for my 95' Buick Roadmaster Limited Estate wagon. I don't want to LS-Swap it,everyone does that. I don't want to just throw a cam and a Paxton supercharger at it like I did to my 98' Corvette.(Or maybe I do😁.)
@drtellezduarte
@drtellezduarte 2 ай бұрын
Hi ! I hope my message is read! I have a Boat with one 305, V8 engine! Which I am sure it will love to be in your show.
@79PrymeTyme
@79PrymeTyme 3 ай бұрын
I built a 305 when I didn't know any better 😂 no torque but had top end out of this world
@franknukemcomegetsome2744
@franknukemcomegetsome2744 2 ай бұрын
Love this Build!!! thank you guys!!!👍😸
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