Old School 302 Ford Goes High Tech - Engine Power S8, E9
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3 жыл бұрынWe take an old-school 302 Ford and bring it into the 21st century with much-needed induction and fuel delivery upgrades.
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@CZ-kz7ug 3 жыл бұрын
We need a breakdown of whats in Pat's shirt pocket.
@americannostalgiagarage 3 жыл бұрын
I met him once. First thing I asked was “why the f*** do you have 30 things in your pocket” he laughed. Pretty cool guy actually
@rickb6694 2 жыл бұрын
Could be it's own series lol
@mattblack9344 2 жыл бұрын
Guess he likes pens
@OriginalMomo 2 жыл бұрын
Pens, markers, a magnet, and a ton of Dad jokes….
@11secghia 2 жыл бұрын
@@OriginalMomo And the winner is......!
@4g63mark 3 жыл бұрын
That engine wanted more RPM. 6,000 RPM is big block stuff. 302's like to rev
@gomezh82 3 жыл бұрын
I'm i the only one who watches this on Sunday morning while eating breakfast?
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
No your not its me the WINNER
@americanaxetoolco2076 3 жыл бұрын
Eating breakfast right now!
@facundovillegas8108 3 жыл бұрын
Tomando mate en Argentina! Saludos.
@Scubasteve22 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Doing it now! lol
@artysmotorsports 3 жыл бұрын
No sir. You're not
@n2omike 3 жыл бұрын
MORE RPM!!! Power curve was going almost straight up when they shut it off! SPIN that little 3" stroke!
@starbattles1 2 жыл бұрын
yea, this was horrible testing. More rpm, more fuel,
@mustangmadness530 2 жыл бұрын
@@starbattles1 i mean the computer already adds fuel and you dont want to spin a 302 past 6k too much cause they start coming apart trust me i own a fox
@Texas_Road_Warrior 2 жыл бұрын
@@mustangmadness530 with a professionally balanced rotating assembly there’s no reason you can turn 7000…
@mustangmadness530 2 жыл бұрын
@@Texas_Road_Warrior yes but if it’s stock block they won’t hold
@cellphonelightsaber 2 жыл бұрын
@@mustangmadness530 Not true! www.google.com/amp/s/www.motortrend.com/how-to/ccrp-0810-302ci-small-block-ford/amp/ Though, they use a Mexican 302 block which should be the strongest of the stock varieties. I would like to see how balanced internals in an H. O. block would do at 7K.
@glenniz1 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I loved the combination of Pat and Mike, I must admit that Frankie and Pat have truly become an excellent team. Frankie is now much more comfortable in his role, and Pat is jumping with joy, just knowing that he has a cohost who hasn't heard all of his Bad Dad Jokes!
@wfemp_4730 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 To the casual viewer, camaraderie adds to the appeal of the show. This isn't a classroom.
@wfemp_4730 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 As I implied, casual viewers aren't street racers.
@americannostalgiagarage 3 жыл бұрын
Did Mike leave?
@jsimsgt96 Жыл бұрын
What is a bad dad joke?
@billyjoejimbob56 7 ай бұрын
Pat and Frankie are a great team. Love the projects they do together!!!
@lizzard8785 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be an episode without one of Pat's classic bad dad jokes..... thanks for the consistency guys! lol
@pauldulworth2768 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 fecking awesome!!!!!
@mgmcd1 3 жыл бұрын
He keeps all his jokes in a dad-a-base.
@Kabodanki 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgmcd1 pretty good
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
Like quitting juicing job cuz he couldn't concentrate HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ha power NATION
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 now you're getting personal
@cecilnyman608 3 ай бұрын
That engine is to die for. That will fit perfectly in my 1963 Ford Fairlane
@thecaptain3773 2 жыл бұрын
Pro-tip, on Windsor engines, always, and I mean always put a bit of anti-seize on the longer water pump bolts, you or the next guy will appreciate it, as there's a lot of 302/351s out there missing a water pump bolt, or like mine, have a stud welded in.
@bowhite1293 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 400hp build or better pulling it past 6000rpm. It's still climbing pretty hard at shutdown.
@MrCheckster2000 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised with the tall tunnel ram intake that you didn't take it to 7k. Might have gotten a little more out of it. That's where my little 302 with a tunnel and decent sized cam made the most power.
@johnpopoff7950 Жыл бұрын
Typical of a big bore short stroke combo. Chevy 302'S did the same and more.
@johnosborne1009 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the trial and errors that we used to do with the Ford 289 with headers and a 500 two barrel. Take the Allen wrench and stick it in the vacuum advance to adjust the total advanced. Those were fun days getting out on the street and everybody thought it was a 289 hypo
@jamieschinkai1267 3 жыл бұрын
Love this build. Sure it doesn’t make loads of power but this is the sort of engine that outlasts owners when properly maintained. You could beat on this thing all day at the drag strip and have no worrries about not being able to make it to work on Monday.
@williamdon3442 Жыл бұрын
One of if not Ford’s greatest creations.
@robertkerr4199 3 жыл бұрын
Hey.. you guys should do a build on a Dogdge V10 out of a Ram.. see if you can build it to out perform a Viper V10... I've always suspected that you could build a magnum V10 for way less than a used viper engine..
@tigererickson8375 3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be hard at all, but they weigh like 3x more, full cast iron black and heads. Also the srt10 trucks are actual viper engines so they're out there, and maybe even cheaper than you think.
@randallmason9687 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had the V10 in His truck. He said that His 440 powered race car got better MPG than the truck that pulled it!
@tigererickson8375 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I'm quite aware, but yes you're right.
@danielZ32 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 why you telling us no one cares
@danielZ32 3 жыл бұрын
just struck me as a little odd thats all no offence meant by it! hope you have a nice day.
@jaylestingi5418 3 жыл бұрын
Pat should have his own show and channel. You just get the feeling that he thinks about valve seat transitions and best stones to use for honing before he falls asleep at night. He is a monster!
@byedoughrods5403 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see the old school knowledge come out( watering it)
@161Sheriff 3 жыл бұрын
When will you finish the 300 in-line 6 with a turbo?
@LimitedGunnerGM 3 жыл бұрын
If this becomes a give away engine as well, I want the turbo 300!
@hewittheier7094 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, I'm working on one and want too add a turbo myself, but wanna see some numbers first!
@Vaino_Hotti 3 жыл бұрын
The 300 cui is the worse of the ford I6's to turbo, apparently the 240 and even the old 200 respond way better to forced induction.
@Vaino_Hotti 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 Oh definitely, but those are not from the same engine family anymore, and available only in Australia.
@davidthompson245 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!,where is it
@blackbutmild1 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really nice daily driver hot rod motor.
@TheDirtyBirchTrails 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to put it in my Camaro !
@michaelrandell4021 11 ай бұрын
Wish you would do a 351w 427 fuel injucted strocker with a Holley tunnel ram and twin Fi Tech and throttle bodys set up.
@fordnut4914 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite builds was the great white hope ..😂 the 300 6 cylinder.that thing turned out to be an animal.
@GIZZMOTORSPORTS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the channel and Holley Efi. You should mention to everyone that when tuning and add timing and no improvement you need to back timing back down. Same for fuel, if you lean it our and no difference you need to add that fuel back in. You did both on this one but didn't show putting it back. I sure hope you put it back to give this motor a chance to stay cooler and live longer.
@papilloncycles3463 3 жыл бұрын
amazing what that water temp difference brought!
@indk240 3 жыл бұрын
The terminator x looks amazing to work with. If they had selected less mediocre heads and a real cam shaft this thing would have made serious power
@indk240 3 жыл бұрын
@Frank Bonazza III exactly what I was thinking afr 185s and como xe272hr, probably would have hit 500
@Orygunner67 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way Pat cackles at 20 minutes 43 seconds! He knows darn well his old school know-how just paid off!
@kimcokevin Жыл бұрын
Spin that thing. SBF’s like to rev, especially with those heads and intake.
@timprice6265 3 жыл бұрын
Wow just love watching you guys. I am currently restoring a 1990 Franco F100 sport utility series. To be given to my grandson when I pass. I am working on a budget. It is currently being sandblasted primed and a military undercoating. Beautiful truck only has a hundred and twenty thousand miles on it and was well maintained. Only thing lacking is a fresh motor so that we can pull a camper or both spend some time together. This boy has had it rough abandoned by both parents I am all he has. He is definitely a truck nut. Does not realize the project truck is for him. Everything is in blue tones. Just like that small block Ford.
@baby-sharkgto4902 2 жыл бұрын
The high ram looks badass on the little 8.2 deck
@baby-sharkgto4902 Жыл бұрын
@@burritocat2018 everybody’s favorite song, hell yeah
@SimplyTakuma 2 жыл бұрын
After i get mad at Motortrend, i found this channel 🙏🏻❤️
@joeymccullough2716 3 жыл бұрын
Pat, you’re a mechanical genius! Jokes-not so much😆
@hdvictoryford5329 3 жыл бұрын
Great job guys. Love that you are doing more and more SBF's. Keep them coming. Love the tricks you show as well.
@Twolife 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old school 302 (5.0) in an 82 Capri RS 5.0 ( original owner) with 368K miles on this engine. Still passes CA smog!
@williamsanders468 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever gets this is gonna have a ball of fun, that engines going to want to rev like crazy
@HammerHeadGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Rev the crap out of her.
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
It gonna eat eat eat power NATION baby
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
She gonna be epic and LS no prep people are going to be stunned by the power this small block is going to make once I get it put in my 2011. F150 ..BY THEN I SHOULD HAVE THE LOW MILEAGE V6 RIPPED OUT AND SOLD FOR A PROFIT.OUR POWER NATION WINNER IN LIVONIA MICHIGAN. THANKQ. Power Nation
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
@@HammerHeadGarage REV LOKE ITS IN 2011 F150 PRAWLING AROUND DETROIT MICHIGAN LOVE ♥️🇺🇸 POWERNATION 🇺🇸♥️
@detroitpatriot7417 3 жыл бұрын
Will have lots of fun once i have it installed in my 2011 F150 prawling around Detroit thanx 2 ♥️🇺🇸POWERNATION🇺🇸♥️
@socleanmx6 3 жыл бұрын
Spin that motor to 6800 .....and put some afr renegades with that cam they should be 7k 450 hp sbf
@midnight347 Жыл бұрын
This. People don't realize not choosing the correct parts that work together and not revving the engine enough can kill horsepower
@v8felon 2 жыл бұрын
Love the small block ford builds
@jasonwalls1277 3 жыл бұрын
They put a CNC 205 head on the LS that flows over 300 cfm and then put a 170 performer head that flows 230 cfm on the Ford and can't even make 400 hp. I'm a Ford guy and this engine wouldn't be a bad street performer but the 302 Ford can make alot more than that. I would love to go on there and show them how to make 450 hp from a 302.
@mplante7352 3 жыл бұрын
They did a 347" SBF not so long ago and at the 500HP mark they had to go to an aftermarket block so would have made more sense for them to use a 351W based engine if you wanted stock for stock, they would have made over 400HP easily and had more torque to back up the HP. they said the EFI will handle more which is great but if you wanted to do turbo or supercharger then the block becomes the weak link at .060" over i'd pass and used the stock crankshaft another cringe. you can do all of this stuff but does it make sense when your whole foundation for your house is made of popsicle sticks and gorilla glue?
@vengeanceizmine9878 3 жыл бұрын
450? 302? At what rpm? Exactly..
@vengeanceizmine9878 3 жыл бұрын
450? 302? At what rpm? Exactly..
@xmo552 3 жыл бұрын
I have some older World Roush heads. I can't remember the model. I've got a 88 moosetang. I can never decide if to build the 302 I love, stroke it, or go 351 stroker. I want to keep efi on this.
@jasonwalls1277 3 жыл бұрын
@@vengeanceizmine9878 7000
@lewisdeclouette6342 3 жыл бұрын
I want to watch this about 2 times at work
@benmcghan9207 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 5.0 later in my old Ford trucks 87 Ford with 500 thousand miles on it and it still runs like a top
@CJColvin 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome brother my 96 F150 has a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 in it with 209,000 miles and still going strong.
@refiii9499 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to have this engine in my 93 mustang. Nice build
@bhushamseunarine7879 3 жыл бұрын
Just love this channel there's always something you could learn I wish I was live close by you all I would love to work and learn but must say great job 👌👍
@CJColvin 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should do the 7.3L Godzilla V8 next.
@scottyknot7403 3 жыл бұрын
My 5th gen bronco would love that engine...
@dragonrider9051 2 жыл бұрын
Doing a resto mod on a 1995 fleetside currently with the 5.0, working the interior first. That would be a sweet motor when you pop the hood to show it off.
@charlielucio2173 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a perfect fit for my 73 Mach .
@johnclary729 3 жыл бұрын
This engine will look and work so good in my T-bucket autocross racer.
@B-Nazty Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the Small block Ford content!
@nickguerra1905 3 жыл бұрын
plot twist the ford 302 is going into a vw jetta hell yeah put some american bald eagle freedom in a german car with japense tires lol
@queensland3148 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this sweet deal would be perfect for my 68 Cougar. My first car 👍🏻
@aguyinnc2865 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have this engine. Of course I would like to have the 351C y'all built awhile back too!
@jonathonadams6931 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to have that 300 6 sittin in the back
@charliewestdahl1012 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 93 Bronco that has been sitting around for about 4 year's !!! Could really use an engine to resurrect the Bronco!!! Glad you guy's are on KZfaq I try not to miss any episodes!!! Longtime fan!!!
@mferrarorace 2 жыл бұрын
Love that motor. I miss my 67 fastback.
@thollingsworth4910 3 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely beautiful.
@kennacraftjr.6513 Жыл бұрын
That is a awesome, awesome and Beautiful Engine. I have a perfect home for it. A 1973 Ford Courier street, strip setup.
@MrALPHA318 3 жыл бұрын
I'm taking notes for my 302 I want to build!!
@masterofnonetv8361 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a great power plant for my 66 mustang! I've already got the trans and 9" rearend.
@artysmotorsports 3 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge in one video 😱
@adamp552 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Fords!
@meek01__53 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice engine set up, i think my 67 mustang convertible is going to need it 😁
@leftcoastdrifter 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet little small block build up, guys. Now let's see what it does to some newer rubber!
@timconner4398 3 жыл бұрын
Nice little motor guys! Would be great in my lightweight Mustang notch back!
@Mr.EeToMyself 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a new 302 for my factory numbered Ford. It's got to be blue.. a small block 302!
@jglew82 3 жыл бұрын
Motion to rename dad jokes to "Pat Jokes." All in favor say aye.
@joeschlotthauer840 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really good episode...
@frankpittman9049 2 жыл бұрын
That would been nice in my 62 Fairlane 500 race car I am redoing. Not run since early 90s. In East Tennessee was and still part of the Sneaky Snake race team.
@jk_navyko9006 3 жыл бұрын
That was a good little 302! I love the Holley EFI system!
@aroundlinemen 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job , love to see a y block overhaul.
@magic777ize Жыл бұрын
Nice vid tysm guys
@jimmymccormick142 9 ай бұрын
Great video Ford powered forever baby l love it great job fellas
@ramseycattn5941 3 жыл бұрын
Give that thing some RPM!
@stacycollier7134 3 жыл бұрын
Great sbf keep up the great videos thanks
@clydebalcom3679 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all make a right pretty Blue Oval smallblock.
@Brock_Landers 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a really nice powerplant for a cruiser Fox body Mustang or an OBS F-150. Plus, with the Holley Terminator standalone boost would be a great option for this small block.
@mplante7352 3 жыл бұрын
on a stock 302 block i'd avoid the boost with .060" overbore, would have made way more sense to start with a 351W
@youngbuck160 8 ай бұрын
How would you connect that ecm/ecu to an E4OD transmission in an OBS F-150?
@dougwilson7736 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1960 f100 this would go great in.
@smillish 3 жыл бұрын
Great engine
@1leggeddog 3 жыл бұрын
couldn't concentrate, wow. The dad jokes are real.
@289pinto 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 nice 😆
@gustavomelendez5514 3 жыл бұрын
I love this n my 302 1986 Lincoln t car
@johnlong4987 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1971 Maverick grabber that engine would be perfect for.
@slabbusterrtr7690 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 302 i want that 351c though in my 80 model ford 150 4x4
@andycampbell6032 3 жыл бұрын
That 5.0 would be perfect for my wifes 95 mustang gt
@dragonrider9051 2 жыл бұрын
That would look great in my OBS F150.
@cjruizgta 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my fox body❤️
@curtis-thebicentennialist1776 3 жыл бұрын
Man! This would go great with my son and I's 1979 F150 rebuild project.
@JorgeHernandez-vs8jw 3 жыл бұрын
Pick me, pick me! I would love to put this in my 66 Mustang. Doing engine work right now. Thank you for all the videos. JJH
@mitchyork527 3 жыл бұрын
I love this stuff
@MerlinOpeth 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching this show and truck u and Spencer Tracy for a long time.
@dieselyeti 2 жыл бұрын
This motor would be FUN in a 2000lb Cobra replica.
@donneezyracing5756 3 жыл бұрын
Love the dad jokes🤣🤣🤣
@craigwiess1656 3 жыл бұрын
There was a person fired for sleeping with clients, they were a mortician.
@FortyTwoAnswerToEverything 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 94 Thunderbird LX V8 I loved. I'd love to find another one and put this engine in it. Should be a fairly easy swap since the earlier ones came with 302's as well (but I don't like the interiors in the pre-94 models)
@trkinwithmikey 3 жыл бұрын
That would look great in my 67 f100
@marksam6824 3 жыл бұрын
That's 302 engine will great swop in my Ford pick up in South Africa
@mostills4017 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that would fit beautifully in my 98 ranger project truck. I planned a 4th Gen hemi swap with the holly efi setup you guys used for the 5.7 hemi build and a pair of Garrett or precision turbos in the bed but winning this would be a game changer 😆
@corporalpunishment1133 3 жыл бұрын
That engine looks sooooo good I nearly pissed my pants pure autoporn.👍🇭🇲 Id love to see a barra too.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Deepthought101 2 жыл бұрын
O man I need my 302 like that
@erniebeswick7675 3 жыл бұрын
Love to drop that in my 93 ranger
@Diesel257 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to build a modernized short deck Clevor. Port fuel injection, coil near plug ignition, the works. See if I could go inch for inch with a Coyote.
@rexcameron995 2 жыл бұрын
clevor would give a coyote a good workout if stroked to 408
@KingJT80 3 жыл бұрын
this in my zephyr on my channel would be PERFECT. ENTERED!! already have an 91 GT 8.8 with 4.10s and SN 95 spindles and SF connectors ready to go in.
@eddiedelacruz9321 Жыл бұрын
Take it till it rolls over
@carlosmaciel2709 Жыл бұрын
When he was explaining that hot oil cold water makes more power and started the pull I smiled just before he did that thing sounded like it was pulling hard and strong and I thought in my head atleast 390hp and maybe 350ft/lb and I was basically right that engine is awesome I hope whomever won it is giving it the lead foot any chance he gets
@ralphdavis2107 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my maverick when I finish it.
@mattblack9344 2 жыл бұрын
If you want more hp and torque ie 500 plus for your maverick, watch richard holdeners show on you tube
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