Building a High Tech 440ci High-Compression Dry-Sump EFI Small Block - Engine Power S10, E11-12

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POWERNATION

POWERNATION

7 ай бұрын

All New Engine Power Episode: We’re putting together a dry-sump 440ci Road Race engine with high-compression, high-flowing heads, and high-quality parts for Carcass’ 1972 Split-Bumper Camaro racecar. This one has a unique foundation with an aftermarket block that combines a conventional SBC bottom end and LS induction for a hybrid powerplant. To make sure it’s ready for the track, we load it with high-octane race fuel and put it through its paces on the dyno!
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
ARP
Head Bolt Kit World Motown LS Iron Block with LS Series Heads
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Edelbrock
COMP Cams: World's top manufacturer of high-quality performance-based internal engine components.
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Edelbrock
Edelbrock: Driving the future of automotive performance.
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Edelbrock
TCI Automotive: Leading provider of high performance automatic transmissions, torque converters, and drivetrain components.
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Summit Racing
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
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Summit Racing
Summit Racing Pro GPX Gas Ported Piston Rings
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Summit Racing
Summit Racing Pro Ring Filer
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CWT Industries
Multi-Bal 5500
Jesel Inc.
Jesel Belt Drive Kit
K1 Technologies
K1 Technologies Chevrolet 350 Crankshaft
Late Model Engines
Crower Rocker Arms
Late Model Engines
LME Billet Intake LS7 Manifold
Late Model Engines
LME CID LS7 Cylinder Heads
Late Model Engines
LME LS Tall Billet Valve Covers
Manley Performance
Manley Pro-Series I-Beam Connecting Rods
Sunnen Products Company
Sunnen SV-15 Honing Machine
Wiseco Performance Products
Wiseco Flat Top Pistons
World Products
Motown LS Iron Block
ARP
ARP Fasteners
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ARP
ARP Head Bolt Kit
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ARP
Bolts & Studs, Engine & Accessory Fastener Kits
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Comp Cams
COMP Cams Camshaft
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Comp Cams
COMP Cams Pushrods
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Comp Cams
COMP Cams Sportsman Solid Roller Lifters
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Holley
CAM Sensor, Crank Sensor, MAP Sensor, MAT Sensor
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Holley
Crank Trigger Kits
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Holley
Dominator EFI Kit
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Holley
Holley EFI Smart Coil Packs
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Holley
MSD Spark Plug Wires
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Holley
Sniper EFI Throttle Body
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Summit Racing
Connecting Rods
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Summit Racing
ATI Super Damper Harmonic Balancer
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Summit Racing
Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
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Summit Racing
COMP Cams Valvetrain Assembly Spray
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Summit Racing
Moroso Oil Pan
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Summit Racing
Summit Racing Pro GPX Gas Ported Piston Rings
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Summit Racing
Total Seal Piston RIng Assembly Lube
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Earl's Performance Plumbing
Hoses and Fittings
Goodson Shop Supplies
Sunnen Cylinder Honing Supplies
Goodson Shop Supplies
Sunnen Portable Bore Hone Driver, Honing Stones, Truing Sleeve, and Dresser
Jesel Inc.
Jesel Belt Drive Kit
Jones Racing Products
Accessory Drive
K1 Technologies
K1 Technologies Chevrolet 350 Crankshaft
Late Model Engines
Crower Rocker Arms
Late Model Engines
Custom Valve Cover
Late Model Engines
Intake Manifold
Late Model Engines
LME CID LS7 Cylinder Heads
Manley Performance
Manley Pro-Series I-Beam Connecting Rods
Moroso
Moroso Dry Sump Pump
Shacklett Automotive Machine
Machine Work
Wiseco Performance Products
Wiseco Flat Top Pistons

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@robertshoff333
@robertshoff333 7 ай бұрын
I built 440 cu. in. small blocks in 1972 for my late model modified circle track car. Bob Gillean at Dearborn Crank shaft did the 4 1/8 billet crankshaft. Dave Crower ground the small base circle camshaft. I designed and machined the custom 4340 connecting rods and fabricated the 180 degree headers. 4 1/8 by 4 1/8. Many comments on Western Pa. Circle track websites. Clate Husted was my driver.
@user-hy6sx1dv5r
@user-hy6sx1dv5r 7 ай бұрын
700hp all natty?! hell yes!!!!turbos, blowers, and superchargers are cool and all but nothing beats the sound of a naturally aspirated big cam V8 with a lopey idle and breathing fire at 8000 RPM!!!
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
How about the sounds of the laughing when a bolt on car with a blower goes past this high dollar build?
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 7 ай бұрын
At this power level it has good torque response and can spin up and it's a flexible more durable engine. Dependable for racing
@maximusvonce1381
@maximusvonce1381 2 ай бұрын
Easy to make 700hp in a race engine all motor. Almost impossible in a street engine you want to live a long time.
@johnbutera5805
@johnbutera5805 7 ай бұрын
SPINTRON... ANOTHER innovation from the genius of Smokey Yunick, who called it the Smoketron!! 😊 He was the first to use an electric motor to spin an engine and use high speed photography to observe what was actually happening in an engine while running!! AMAZING!! 😊
@InvaderSS670
@InvaderSS670 7 ай бұрын
Running a crossplane V8 to 8000rpm is a thing most people never experience. Unless you go to tractor/truck pulls lol.
@WildShotZ14
@WildShotZ14 7 ай бұрын
Track days too
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 7 ай бұрын
With the budget these guys have they should be getting at least 9000rpm.. 8000 is easy.
@InvaderSS670
@InvaderSS670 7 ай бұрын
@@davidgalea6113 10,000RPM! Aim higher.
@Bdogg12784
@Bdogg12784 7 ай бұрын
Go to a dirt track. 8000 is low.
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 7 ай бұрын
@@InvaderSS670 Even higher than 10k is possible (project spinal tap) just not practical which is why I went with 9k.For some reason high rpm is never done on these shows, its where the real technical knowledge is vs bolting stuff on, high boost, high compression, high displacent has been done plenty of times and easy in comparison to reliable high rmp.
@tomp538
@tomp538 7 ай бұрын
The Com Cam was a thing of beauty!
@t0mn8r35
@t0mn8r35 7 ай бұрын
So far this has been my favourite engine build.
@robertdepyssler2769
@robertdepyssler2769 7 ай бұрын
Love watching you guys build everything from a basic 6 banger to the high power stuff. I wish I could have you guys build me a striker for my 2004 Jeep TJ. Six Banger by you guys would make my experience so much better.
@Ward413
@Ward413 7 ай бұрын
Watching this show as a kid back in the early 2000’s, all I cared about was V8’s and muscle cars. Watching as an adult now, it’s all their In-line 6 projects that I can’t get enough of. The slant 6, the strokers, the Ford 300. So damn cool.
@sethh8892
@sethh8892 7 ай бұрын
Holy shit, thats the comp cams in Memphis! I know the guys that work there, seeing them on camera is so cool! Shout out!
@huntercollins5799
@huntercollins5799 7 ай бұрын
Me too😂 My tool and die teacher in Jackson was a CNC programmer at Comp before his new career and got us a tour out there and introduced us to a lot of guys. I’ve seen Mr.Reed several, several times at Jackson Dragway.
@sethh8892
@sethh8892 7 ай бұрын
@@huntercollins5799 Yup, the black dude comes up to our shop all the time to talk to our manager and service advisor at the end of the day. Super chill guy.
@Dominator37
@Dominator37 7 ай бұрын
Nice build.. ! i did a 440 SBC with 11:1 c/r 18 degree NASACR heads with 2- piece Bow tie intake , 1 7/8 ‘’ stepped headers . Camshaft has around .700 lift and solid roller … dyno showed 675 hp @ 600 lbs .. all under 6800 RPM .. We went with a light weight aluminum sprint car block .. i should have went with the SP-2 heads but chose not to at the time…Everyone i talk too says the DYNO numbers are very reliable and not overstated 42:49 ..🇺🇸🏁😎
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 7 ай бұрын
What nascar heads did you use? Sb2.2? Ford guy myself so not familiar.. wouldn't it be great if nascar still used normal heads/blocks/parts (the kind you can bolt on to a traditional small blocks).. nascar parts were a treasure trove of used parts but ever since 2009 nothing interchanges/ can be used with oldschool parts..the heads need a special block, no more carbs, no ford 9 inch, no 4 speed etc etc..
@heshtesh
@heshtesh 7 ай бұрын
Your build doesn't sound much different from my 10.7 to 1 399ci 1st gen 89 octane street stroker. 3.625 crank, 4.155"+ bore, 260/266@.050.......679/668...110 lsa solid roller, GM Performance 2 piece intake, Brodix 261cc. 18* C-Series milled to 17*, QFT 950 Black Diamond.......641hp@6400 and 560ft lbs.@5700.
@Dominator37
@Dominator37 7 ай бұрын
@@heshtesh Cool ..! I made a turtle and bolted it in the manifold plenum and picked up 5 hp…easy to do on the 2 piece intake.. good luck..!
@Dominator37
@Dominator37 7 ай бұрын
@@davidgalea6113 yeah the SB2.2 are better than the 18 degree i used.. i kind of agree it would be better if NASCAR used the everyday traditional race stuff … But Toyota ruined all that stuff because all their race engine stuff is just that T.R.D….! You cannot buy any X Toyota race engines and build your own engines..! The engines are sealed units..During the MID 80’s Ford cylinder heads did have a advantage that really showed up on the Big super ovals and it took a little time for dodge and Chevrolet to catch up ..Yes the 9’’ type rear end was standard in Nascar cup , but did you know a GM 12bolt type dropout uses les horse power to run than a 9’’ but rules don’t allow it..! Of course the 9’’ is gone and they now have a weak independent unit…
@Formerlywarmer
@Formerlywarmer 7 ай бұрын
I’ve used TCI transmissions since the eighties. I’ve hit three 727 And one 904 in trucks/ cars now and cannot say enough good about their top shelf products and after purchase support! Best ppl to deal with. MOPAR2YA 😎
@wmbepeo
@wmbepeo 7 ай бұрын
My god, that belt is all over the place!
@scottbourret1190
@scottbourret1190 7 ай бұрын
Something I'd enjoy seeing is someone recreate what could have been the olds w 43. Have been wondering if a rocket racing or mondello block with valley hemi heads may work to pull that set up off.
@craigstark2712
@craigstark2712 7 ай бұрын
I believe this is my new favorite episode from Engine Power! I grew up a huge fan of small block Chevy's with a 1973 Blazer with the 350, before owning a pair of Camaro's with the LS3. So this was like the best of both worlds for me lol.
@eieghn
@eieghn 7 ай бұрын
You guys ever thought about doing friction reduction on your engines? I have the test schedule to do so. I used to be a Engine Test Engineer with one of the Big 3. Friction reduction could add 3-ish% to ANY engine's output simply by following the Test Schedule - FOR FREE! That would be nearly 22HP on this engine!
@rickybailey7123
@rickybailey7123 7 ай бұрын
Dam 765 lift 783 lift wow that will rev to the moon son of a gun ive never ran a cam that big nice !!
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad that the SBC can finally take advantage of LS cylinder head flow. There's only so much you can do with a 23 degree valve angle.
@ABetterLifeInc
@ABetterLifeInc 7 ай бұрын
These blocks have been out for a long time. Like 10-15 years I think but they are pricey!
@MrLandslide84
@MrLandslide84 7 ай бұрын
Incredible. Gonna file this build away in my list lol.
@Bobthebuilder.69
@Bobthebuilder.69 6 ай бұрын
Man I love these big small blocks. I used to always run 350s, 383s and I still own a couple but I really like my new 434. In my C10, with a power glide with 3.42 gears...it's an absolute handful. It runs n/a like my old 383 on a 125-150 shot. And to top it off, it's now a hydraulic roller cam and I love not having to lash valves all the time. I talked to Nolan at Isky Cams and told him what I was building, he spent a good while talking to me and he recommended the perfect cam for my combo. Just enough low end torque to be streetable and tons of midrange and top end power. I plan to wire and plumb my new nitrous express kit this winter, the engine is built for spray
@Bdogg12784
@Bdogg12784 7 ай бұрын
It's nice to see them take all this time making a cam but they have to get it together with the lifters. I've personaly had 3 lifter failures in 5 years.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 7 ай бұрын
Springs as well...
@maximusvonce1381
@maximusvonce1381 2 ай бұрын
What lifters brand failed on you. Isky max bushed are the best
@maximusvonce1381
@maximusvonce1381 2 ай бұрын
Run the isky max bushed lifters and you shouldn't have anymore failures
@AllenWilliams25
@AllenWilliams25 7 ай бұрын
thats crazy i would have not thought of this combo i would love to see more hybrid 350 small block combo for i deas on a 1994 or older tahoe to Suburban applications
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 7 ай бұрын
Great engine for the Tahoe
@DBSSTEELER
@DBSSTEELER 7 ай бұрын
440 CI, LS7 top end and you made 31 more HP than the basic 416 LS3 stroker Richard Holdner used in his Rec Port LS intake test using the stock LS3 intake manifold. I would have expected this combination to push over 700HP.
@lanegeisewite1436
@lanegeisewite1436 7 ай бұрын
An LS Small Block Chevy bottom end is stronger than a conventional SBC. Badass build though🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪💪
@McCracken_9
@McCracken_9 7 ай бұрын
One day I want to see a big block mercruiser built
@bobqzzi
@bobqzzi 7 ай бұрын
Cool build, but I have 0 idea why anyone would want an old SBC block instead of one of the many nice LS ones.
@p.d.3192
@p.d.3192 7 ай бұрын
Better bay-to-bay breathing on the OG small block vs LS blocks. Splayed 4 bolt mains are plenty strong enough to handle what these guys are building it for. Plus, since the block is OG small block, there's less fab to be done to bolt it in most things that originally ran small blocks.
@Timmayytoo
@Timmayytoo 7 ай бұрын
@@p.d.3192 I had the same reaction as @bobqzzi and your suggestions did occur to me, but at this point there are tons of LS parts and it seems like they had to have several custom parts made to work with this hybrid block. The only thing I can think of is the oil pump on the LS is quite different than the older SBC so maybe that is the reason.
@jasonbirch1182
@jasonbirch1182 7 ай бұрын
Oiling issues.
@p.d.3192
@p.d.3192 7 ай бұрын
​@@Timmayytoohe explains why from 1:45 - 2:10
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
Should have used a Dart.
@stevewelborn8744
@stevewelborn8744 7 ай бұрын
You two do a awesome job
@AcidTeegx
@AcidTeegx 7 ай бұрын
I would like to here more engines being built to at least 8k rpm again 😂😂
@WildEngineering
@WildEngineering 7 ай бұрын
best episode yet
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 7 ай бұрын
They need to make a home made 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10 by using 4 sets of 4.6L 4V Cobra heads by cutting-em and welding-em as well as porting and polishing the modified Cobra heads, use some custom made camshafts from either Comp cams or Lunati, and a custom home made intake manifold and man you have you're self a Homemade 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10 making over 700 HP NA with some custom Homemade parts as well as some beefed up factory parts.
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 7 ай бұрын
Could just boost a 3V.....
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 7 ай бұрын
@jamesgeorge4874 Yeah but it won't be as reliable as a Homemade NA 4V V10.
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 7 ай бұрын
@@CJColvin because "homemade 4V 10's" have a stellar track record ? I know of 1......
@donaldgminski8621
@donaldgminski8621 7 ай бұрын
The V10's in general have a great track record. About to hit 600k, myself.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 7 ай бұрын
@@donaldgminski8621 Awesome brother
@carguybikeguy
@carguybikeguy 7 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a build using this same road racer engine ethos to a Vortec 4200 or a 261. The 261, like that 300 y’all built, would benefit from modern witchcraft. But that 4200 could sing & maybe even hunt down some of these V8 builds.
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 7 ай бұрын
Comp owns just about every speed parts business there is. Anyone else notice that prices have basically doubled in the last 10 years? They don't need to charge those prices for their products. Selling them at half the price they are now would allow a LOT more people to afford the hobby.
@flamintasty
@flamintasty 7 ай бұрын
Goddam welfare mentality. Comp are a business, not a charity. 🙄
@donaldgminski8621
@donaldgminski8621 7 ай бұрын
The price on EVERYTHING had more than doubled o er the last 10years. The dollar lost it's value. Wake up.
@marcotrujillo4279
@marcotrujillo4279 6 ай бұрын
Man I loveeee engine power good stuff
@rickyfulks889
@rickyfulks889 7 ай бұрын
Why would anyone prefer a gen 1 bottom end over the LS 6 bolt main?
@holeshot1721
@holeshot1721 7 ай бұрын
Im still scratching my head! The guys asked for something relieable that can take a beaten nd they go and build something with no track records
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
@@holeshot1721 I think most of the builds are based on who want to pay for product placement or at least donates parts. These blocks seem pointless and who would use those rings and pistons in a build like this?
@jacobkite5497
@jacobkite5497 7 ай бұрын
The blocks designed for people to be able to swap in all thie gen1 sbc stuff including mechanical fuel pump and timing set but be able to take advantage of 15° Symmetrical port ls heads
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
@@jacobkite5497 yup great idea buy a $3500 block instead of a $50 fuel pump and a $100 set of mounts. Only if you are class rule limited.
@billbonu1639
@billbonu1639 6 ай бұрын
Make the same motor a two stroke and I'll be impressed.
@raystevens687
@raystevens687 7 ай бұрын
Nice job on the engine
@leonardhirtle3645
@leonardhirtle3645 7 ай бұрын
An amazing engine going into a beautiful car.
@willybird3377
@willybird3377 7 ай бұрын
there's a "ton" of tons in this
@franknukemcomegetsome2744
@franknukemcomegetsome2744 7 ай бұрын
Absolute perfection!!!!!👍😸
@metalted6128
@metalted6128 7 ай бұрын
Why for street racing, not an aluminum block??? Less weight equals faster lap times.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 7 ай бұрын
All right, let's check it out.
@supertruckertom
@supertruckertom 6 ай бұрын
There were plenty of old beat up Camaros to hack up into a race car.
@jakegorman7121
@jakegorman7121 2 ай бұрын
Would have been nice if more detail went into explaining exactly why you went with a conventional bottom end and what the advantage were over the ls platform
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 7 ай бұрын
Kudos to Edelbrock for moving their HQ out of Kalifornistan.
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
Of course they moved to a place to exploit tax laws and can pay workers $7. Keep in mind tho, their engineering is still in CA because MS doesnt have that talent pool.
@autonomous_collective
@autonomous_collective 7 ай бұрын
Question: Why aren't cams heat treat again after completion?
@Jake1973_
@Jake1973_ 7 ай бұрын
The final machining doesn't heat the material enough to change the material hardness.
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
Heat treating causes distortion, so you have to final machine afterwards.
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 7 ай бұрын
Nice
@rogerbennett2025
@rogerbennett2025 7 ай бұрын
getting anything from Edelbrock/comp cams for a AMC 390 took 10+months
@donaldgminski8621
@donaldgminski8621 7 ай бұрын
Sorry. I robbed all the good parts from the junkyard.
@Twogreenfeet
@Twogreenfeet Күн бұрын
I'd like to see a dyno comparison VS an LS bottom end. I wonder what the windage differences are. If better windage is desired I"d probably go with a PROPERLY knife edged crank than drilling holes to balance. My guess is windage differences are probably minimal with a dry sump.
@bluecollarfox913
@bluecollarfox913 7 ай бұрын
That was wild to see.
@BigDipper79
@BigDipper79 Ай бұрын
It’s great to see these parts being made in the good old USA. Buy American. No more chinese junk.
@lesliesmith2586
@lesliesmith2586 7 ай бұрын
Good job on the safety. You don’t need eye protection.
@Ultegra10SPD
@Ultegra10SPD 4 ай бұрын
I-Beams on an extreme road race engine? -U10
@vortecturbo
@vortecturbo 7 ай бұрын
Man that's absolutely awesome that combination would have made even more power and more torque with a big CID CNC 4500 series single plane with a big 4500 series throttle body that 102 is too small for that combination
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 7 ай бұрын
I think this manifold makes better torque
@ManiacRacing
@ManiacRacing 7 ай бұрын
Nobody ever mentions how close a SpinTron test rig sounds to a running engine, despite not actually burning any fuel! At high rpm, they sound like running engines
@macthemec
@macthemec 5 ай бұрын
Hey i wanna hear about these race tug boats!
@ardennielsen3761
@ardennielsen3761 7 ай бұрын
circle track car only needs 350hp to 400hp to idle at the average track speed. but i can bet that engine needs a radiator the size of two K20 engines.
@hotroder105
@hotroder105 7 ай бұрын
So at the end of the day you spent a crazy budget to make what a good ls7 can make...
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 7 ай бұрын
Or a 454LSX, there is the Nascar SB2 or R07 as well.
@19chev81
@19chev81 7 ай бұрын
But this will last longer in circle track racing running constant high rpm
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 7 ай бұрын
​@@19chev81literally what the LS7 was designed for. It was made to live close to its redline. The fact it doesn't have to spin to 8,000 rpm to make its power is just a bonus. The only thing that would make this make sense is if bore or stroke is limited to a certain thing or a certain type of block is required.
@ForneyRider
@ForneyRider 7 ай бұрын
This one is heavy duty for drag racing. It makes the power and has longevity.😊
@hotroder105
@hotroder105 7 ай бұрын
@@ForneyRider it's built for a road course car. You can easily build a reliable 700hp ls for less money. I like that it's different but the end product doesn't justify the level of parts and budget
@racer193wr
@racer193wr 7 ай бұрын
These have been around for a little while now for anyone thinking this is new, its not. Hot rod or car craft did a feature years back now on how to gwt ahold of the parts and how to build this engine. This would be my dream build if i could ever afford to do any of this stuff..
@billbonu1639
@billbonu1639 6 ай бұрын
I would have used arp studs for the heads and mains if possible.
@zachniverson8816
@zachniverson8816 7 ай бұрын
Just curious Frankie, did u weigh the rings, wrist pin, and locks with the piston and rods when you balanced it. The video just shows the piston and rods being weighed so I was curious
@mikalegault9012
@mikalegault9012 7 ай бұрын
Eventually, I would like to see them build a flatplane V8 like the mustang 350R
@aumetalmental8403
@aumetalmental8403 7 ай бұрын
What is the cylinder wall thickness at a 4.185 bore on that particular block? 🤔
@p.d.3192
@p.d.3192 7 ай бұрын
On a 4.4" bore spacing, that leaves 0.215" wall thickness (between cylinders. No idea on the thrust sides).
@aumetalmental8403
@aumetalmental8403 7 ай бұрын
Thanks much. I thought maybe you'd think that was a stupid question. ✌️😎
@reltub20001
@reltub20001 2 ай бұрын
FR3. YOU USED FR3 in a torque 454 several years ago. I have always wondered about additives. Unfortunatly, the FR3 was added before the first dyno test. This did not allow anyone to find out if the additive worked. Could you please get a few dyno runs on an engine to establish a base, the add the FR3 and test again. This will either prove or disprove if the FR3 works as advertised. Thank you
@michiganporter
@michiganporter 7 ай бұрын
Pats pocket on his shirt is bout to burst lol!
@LSmaniac253
@LSmaniac253 7 ай бұрын
Love these guys
@xavierhamilton1550
@xavierhamilton1550 3 ай бұрын
All this in Mississippi… olive branch Is like 30 to 40 minutes from me
@maximusvonce1381
@maximusvonce1381 2 ай бұрын
I hope he's running Isky Max bushed lifters and Isky Gold stripe dual valvesprings...lol
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 7 ай бұрын
146 👍's up thank you for sharing 😅
@KS-dg5zh
@KS-dg5zh 7 ай бұрын
I would have added more timing.a typical 15°headed small block will take as much as 34°.I think they could have tapped the 800hp mark
@jakegorman7121
@jakegorman7121 2 ай бұрын
Having the 6-bolt mains in the ls I'm surprised that the conventional is the way you went
@NewYorkPizza444
@NewYorkPizza444 5 ай бұрын
TCI ...... 👍 !
@benkrom2737
@benkrom2737 7 ай бұрын
Small block chevys are reliable up to about 550 hp and ls engines to 1000 hp. Only reason to build this, is loophole in rules. It'll go like hell but won't have close, the reliability of a ls build
@frankcastle9691
@frankcastle9691 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if they use ARP bolts.
@mistabone3899
@mistabone3899 7 ай бұрын
@14:42 precision torque wrench, looks just like mine except left handed. Click click.
@nakedgoblin4090
@nakedgoblin4090 7 ай бұрын
You guys made this engine for project street fighter and the car was a Camaro
@dieseldan420ca
@dieseldan420ca 7 ай бұрын
🎉 Yay high compression! With the abundance and popularity of e85 especially in late model boosted applications, I think most of your engine builds should finish by swapping in a solid roller camshaft and high compression pistons. High dollar, high performance TV show engine builds on pump gas = 😴
@pascalhumphrey
@pascalhumphrey 7 ай бұрын
I would like see them try building like a F1 engine. 2.5L, 13000 RPM
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that would be out of their area of expertise. F1 engines are insane to put it lightly.
@pascalhumphrey
@pascalhumphrey 7 ай бұрын
I think they have the smarts to do it, especially Pat. @@bmstylee
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 ай бұрын
@@pascalhumphrey tell me you know nothing about what is involved in an F1 engine build without saying you know nothing about it. Building a pushrod V8 that revs to 8k max is not even remotely close to a modern F1 engine that idles at 4k. The old 3.0L V10s idle higher than most of the dyno pulls they make and run to 20,000 RPM. So yes he might be able to build one but don't expect it to last very long. Pat's a very good engine builder but not in that area.
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 7 ай бұрын
F1 engines have very tight tolerances and have to be heated with oil before even starting the engine. Not practical at all
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 ай бұрын
@@marcalampi5036 tight tolerance is an understatement. Until they get it warmed it's basically seized.
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 7 ай бұрын
that thing has some legs up top
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 4 ай бұрын
Build a drag and drive car !!!!
@Franciscolozano38
@Franciscolozano38 7 ай бұрын
You rebuild engines for custumers?
@shinymud7
@shinymud7 7 ай бұрын
Frankie looks great he grew a beard, now he don’t look so baby face weird.
@samueljackson2478
@samueljackson2478 4 ай бұрын
Do a Ford Parklane 410 Marauder
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 7 ай бұрын
Amazed how there is a lack of manifold gaskets.
@NewYorkPizza444
@NewYorkPizza444 5 ай бұрын
I need you guys to show me , How to use those torque wrenches correctly Gg 😅 ....
@redman715
@redman715 7 ай бұрын
Wooohhhh!!
@carm44035
@carm44035 6 ай бұрын
I have a few questions. Why use head bolts instead of studs? Did they use roller cam bearings? Will a Jesel belt drive fit under a timing cover?
@Twogreenfeet
@Twogreenfeet Күн бұрын
Yes, wet timing belts exist.
@there_is_nothing_here
@there_is_nothing_here 7 ай бұрын
Okay hold up. I'm not an engine builder so I'm kind of confused. Is it a custom block? How would LS heads fit on an old SBC? Or do you mean an LQ9 vortec block?
@jesselee128able
@jesselee128able 7 ай бұрын
Its a motown block. Its specifically custom made for the LS top end. Google world products motown 2 LS. The problem is, the blocks 3500$ lol
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 7 ай бұрын
I see I thought it was the old small block I didn't realize it was a specialty block
@chrisferguson1911
@chrisferguson1911 7 ай бұрын
That Camaro looked great. Was there something unseen that was the reason to buy that for race instead of some junker with no title?
@19chev81
@19chev81 7 ай бұрын
That camara had alot of issues. There was front end damage, fenders were buckled. It wasn't as nice as it looked on camera
@chrisferguson1911
@chrisferguson1911 7 ай бұрын
@@19chev81 Thank you.👍
@bryang9158
@bryang9158 7 ай бұрын
Bad ass but it's at least 75 ft lbs down on tq
@The_Performance_Laboratory
@The_Performance_Laboratory 7 ай бұрын
Why such a large ring gap for an NA engine?
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 7 ай бұрын
Big block Chevy is the way to go 🤯
@19chev81
@19chev81 7 ай бұрын
Not for constant high rpm on a circle track....
@taylorsrus9543
@taylorsrus9543 7 ай бұрын
@@19chev81 They do it in boats all the time, way more than this probably does.
@Backwoods_870
@Backwoods_870 7 ай бұрын
I'd hate to see the price tag on that thing
@user-wl1yr6zw3w
@user-wl1yr6zw3w 4 ай бұрын
That job must suck! 😂
@clintonsmith9931
@clintonsmith9931 7 ай бұрын
And exactly which part was made in the GM factory? Why do people say it is a Chevy or such when it only looks like a small block Chevy. Guess the local wrecking yards ran out of sbc 350s to put big money in.
@stephenmoulton9284
@stephenmoulton9284 7 ай бұрын
what is up with the old mopar v6's , the ones in the LH and forward in time, the good the bad and the ones that can be hopped up > reliably? > The last big 6 used in minivans and jeeps ? As things like cost / mile count any way to hop them up and keep them affordable to run ? WE have all heard the story's , 8 mpg at 30 or 130 . yea not at $4.00/gallon
@randyj9965
@randyj9965 7 ай бұрын
My stock aluminium block 415 with gm performance parts cnc heads and a cid 4500 intake makes more than that.
@19chev81
@19chev81 7 ай бұрын
But it wouldnt last as long on a circle track at a constant high rpm
@randyj9965
@randyj9965 7 ай бұрын
@@19chev81 maybe not, but that would be block related. I have just as good bottom end stuff as they do, callies crank and rods, but not near as good of heads as they do. That's why I make power at 7k not 7700, and I make more torque from less cubic inches.
@clevelandmaker386
@clevelandmaker386 7 ай бұрын
Really....I wanted a 6 4 barrel intake.....and they didn't have it
@ChristopherHallett
@ChristopherHallett 6 ай бұрын
Cam guy says "you should make over 800 pretty easy with this" - engine turns 720. Something ain't quite right there - too thick headgasket accidentally fitted, perhaps?
@metalted6128
@metalted6128 7 ай бұрын
You know your cam has, ALOT of lift when you need taller lifter sleeves!!!
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 7 ай бұрын
Not a LS then. Might as well just buy a 454LSX or buy a SB2 or R07 engine
@jamesalexander7540
@jamesalexander7540 7 ай бұрын
Pat is starting to influence Frankie.
@leonwayne7657
@leonwayne7657 7 ай бұрын
He will need a Pat propriotry pocket pen support harness under that shirt soon as well. 😂
@AndyPat239
@AndyPat239 7 ай бұрын
the summit racing pen protector 5000 !
@leonwayne7657
@leonwayne7657 7 ай бұрын
@AndyPat239 I love watching the builds here on the channel and enjoy seeing some of the younger generations absorbing the information with awe. All they/we need is the finances to keep the dream alive that you guys live and breathe on the channel. 🙌
@hooligangeneral300
@hooligangeneral300 7 ай бұрын
Expeshily is not a word.
@19chev81
@19chev81 7 ай бұрын
This is about engines not english class. Man up and quit bitching 😂
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