from germany here as well

Didn't know that. But now that you say it.... you can't unsee the similarities :D Also greetings from Germany :D

No wonder why the tiles system on roads looks like Sims.

well you can hardly call the situation around the last 2 settlers games "development" or the games "Settlers".

German watching not from Germany… I miss die Siedler for sure…

Anno 1404 for live

​@@DimondTrooper Sadly that one is already infected with Ubisoft's brain rot, there's a DRM-ed progression system with unlockable rewards, I still remember losing hundreds of hours of progress when the DRM corrupted my profile.

4 is also good in my opinion. The only thing that I'm disappointed with in that game is the fact that you can't play as the dark tribe.

they got me back for a wee while when they did the settlers 2 remake ;D

yep, german here and they were great, played them lots as a child but I sill have some of them, fifth game was amazing imo. the early ones were very difficult to manage for young children (I played with my younger brothers, 2-6 years younger)

I know it's heresy, but i am very fond of the 7th game. The whole copy protection thing totally killed it, but it was such a good game imo.

Siegler

Space efficiency is not a modern concept; even the ancient city of Rome was built with that understanding. However, as populations swell, and borders grow, a new layer of growth is built, and unless that is done deliberately by the rulers of the settlement, it can be chaotic, winding and twisting as everyone strives to build as close to the town gates and major thoroughfares as possible for their own benefit, without any such oversight, but that usually gets burnt down and replaced when the rulers of the settlement decide to utilize the land that such squatters were tolerated upon previously.

@@KainYusanagi And you mustn't forget that sometimes the 'chaos of winding and twisting roads' was also deriberately planned for defensive purposes. Hard to have an attacking archer unit do shit, when the maximal line of sight is 50m.

Settlements HAD TO BE space efficient up until about the late 1800s when trains became cheap enough to be used for daily commutes. Walking is slow. Square street grids are an ancient invention too, since, you know, right angles are not a very difficult concept to think about. People have made rectanguloid buildings since people have made buildings at all.

Space efficiency is absolutely not a modern concept for huge cities. Before modern transportation, it was a necessity to be space efficient in order to become a huge city in the first place. For practical reasons (material strength and pre-elevator logistics) it wasnt possible to build too high up, so instead all the land area had to be utilized to the fullest. Rome is the quintessential example with its cramped insulae crammed into each other all over the place, only the odd majestic public building getting some leg room. And medieval cities famously utilized overhanging upper floors to reclaim some of that wasted space above people's heads on the street. Not to mention the streets themselves being as small as possible. The modern style of city with empty space between buildings, large roads, green spaces, etc. is a thoroughly modern invention. You can clearly see it in cities with surviving old towns. It's always endless rows of multistory houses with their walls pressed against each other. No open areas except where the pre-modern buildings have been demolished.

Yeah and you had to bread donkeys to be able to speed up the transports

@@thurisaz123 Right. I remember some elaborate contraptions of 'one red (meaning steep incline) road is as fast as three green (even ones) and you have to somewhat calculate, or at least estimate how long certain transports would take, so you don't chocke out whole production chains down the line :D also: "breading donkeys" is my new favorite typo :D

Yes, well remembered! One of the main things in Settlers 1 and 2 (and maybe later games, I haven't played them) was how to best create a road network that enabled the efficient transport of goods. You could only transport 1 item between flags along a road, and the Settler went at the speed of the slowest ground along that path. So a grid / loops of roads with regular warehouses was the most efficient method (assuming you had building materials for the warehouse and enough settlers to populate the paths)

Yes... indeed. This game fills me with the same feeling of nostalgia as Pravus, when he plays another 'Banished' style game :D

I'm on the same boat, against the storm has a nice mechanic of every settlement is different because it's perks, storm effects and blueprints are different. Much more catching

"right now", dass war schon in den 90ern ein Ding ;D