I have the Predator Trilogy on Blu-Ray, I found Gary Busey really good in this movie... It's just a shame he stared in Fullmoon Productions... Gingerdead-Man. And What I think of the Predators Dancing outtake in this... It is one of the most Outlandish, Funny and awesome things I ever came across.

Oliver Harper I completely agreed with Siskel and Ebert. Predator 2 is not a low-budget and not a pleasant sequal. The special effects is elaborate, the violence is too violent, and that insulting foul-language. I gave it 2/10 and thumbs down at IMDB.com.

uh dude, the violence is meant to be exactly that, as it's supposed to be in the middle of a drug war after all. Now I might agree with you somewhat about the excessive use of foul language, but at the same time, it also fits into the story of Danny Glover's role of a "take no shit" kinda guy

Siskel and Ebert didn't have a clue. Listen to them. And comparing the second movie to the first? Danny Glove to Arnie? How? They are 2 different actors and these are 2 different movies. I agree with some of the stuff you said but I think you get lost with the rest. Watch it with low expectations? Really!? I think you'd find the real Predator fans loved this movie. It was different and took good risks. It showed us there are different Predators out there. So what did people want? Same jungle scene rehashed? Macho men again? It's a different movie that gets more right than wrong. Can't even begin to compare it to AVP, AVP2, Predators and the new one. Tells you a lot about a supposed "trusted site" like Rotten Tomato when Predators gets a higher score than Predator 2.

I actually liked Shane Black's "The Predator", and I rank it higher than "Predators", but still not quite as good as the first 2 films. not to mention, the new movie actually references the 1987 and 1997 incidents, but yet, the filmmakers (particularly that of Robert Rodriguez) fails to mention the events from "Predator 2"

It is that Puritan arrogance that people have

It's just critics being critics...

Ebert and Siskel whine about everything. They're just pretentious critics and always have been.

PUT THAT COOKIE DAAAAOOOOOWWWNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

@@LuxBellator92 Well, I don't miss Ebert. Horrible llittle gnome.

Facts

It's actually very poor.

@Pk Suleiman no, it's fucking shite. Nowhere near as good as the first.

Its not really a 90s movie, its super late 80s one.

@unlock_the_poppins @Shit_Heap.. get out losers. @JPToys97- The horrific AVP and all the other cheesy teen flick versions after that made it evident that although P2 was not anywhere near P1 it was TRULY GREAT ;)

Don't forget she had a broom to fight the Predator lol

That line was hilarious 🤣 I remember seeing it back to back in ‘90 and the the audience erupted w/laughter!

Yes... that is seriously my favorite line… nearly top ten of a load of movies for me. It works in English and also the language I watched it the first time. I enjoyed the movie a lot. And actually I still do. Any new Predator movie should have picked up from there.

I alway thought that whole ending was pretty good I love that line one of my favorite parts was the train scene but I always wondered 1 how did predator get on the train and 2 how did he know those people where armed

@@jgedutis The Predator wouldn't have stood a chance against that fatal broom!!

Lone Wolf it’s not that great. The predator itself was great but the story was weak and character development sucked.

Exactly, man, I find it very good. Compared to these days movies like Bird Cage or Marvel movies this one can be even considered an Oscar level movie.

Why did I mention Bird Cage I have no idea. What a great movie that was. That's because I write these comments late in the night and my brain is to tired to thing straight. No alcohol included, just a programmer being a programmer.

I was at university when this came out and went with big group of friends. We absolutely loved, it and came home raving about it, a few of us went back again the next night. I still really like this movie. It’s not as good as the original, but it’s a great sequel, and I still really enjoy it - if I watch the first, I have to watch the second right away. It expands on the first one, but avoids being a total retread, expands the background of the Predator a bit, shows us some new tricks, and has a style of it’s own. Mostly it gets one main thing right in that, like the first movie, it doesn’t really start as a sci-fi film, it starts as a different genre of movie, an action cop movie in this case, then the Predator shows up to spoil the party. I think that’s the characteristic that Predators and The Predator missed, and it meant they didn’t seem to fit in the series, and weren’t as good as the first two. (Predators isn’t bad, just kind of forgettable). Predator 2 jumps in a bit deeper at the start, showing us more of the alien, and admittedly, a bit more character development would have helped. A second sequel should have kept that basic idea though - start as a different genre - a heist movie, or a western, or a WW2 movie, then have the Predator shake it off course.

@@chrisward000 totally agree with you there.

Rods toy box Personally, I was rather happy to see Danny Glover be in a film of which he was mostly outmatched. In the past, he seemed to be the sidekick of other actors. For this one, for Danny Glover's character being compared to a lion only makes me speculate about his character. Of how badass he has to be for a Predator to isolate him out.

I loved Predator 2 as well and was not disappointed that Arnie wasn't in it. Two classic movies in my opinion with their own look and style.

I love the sequel. It's very badass having the predator alien in an urban jungle fighting gangs.

Agreed, it was neat to see a common cop go up against the Predator and not some pumped up soldier. Don't get me wrong, I love the first one, but the second one was it's own thing and did that great.

Predator is a better film, but P2 is great in it's own right. Both are re-watchable and never get old! I have the 4K versions...fantastic picture on both!

+Rods toy box didn't they complain about the first movie too?

Gene Siskel generally had accurate insights about film even if you didn't agree with him but Ebert was always a bit of a libtard twat.

Keep in mind these are the same people who said Speed 2 was great

It's only through this uploader's videos that I get so much exposure to S & E. And my conclusion is that other people's opinions for reviews are worth nothing until you experience it first. Same goes for any type of review when it comes to entertainment. Products working is separate.

Siskel was a snobby idiot who complained about everything. Ebert had a lot better judgement.

+Jim Pepper Technically speaking, Lance Henriksen hasn't actually been killed by an Alien.

britbloc123 well, he was left impossible to repair because of the alien, so...

Technically he committed suicide by ripley

Kelvin Casing ha!

Don't remember Lance being killed by The Terminator or even being in Terminator for that matter lol

The ending with the whole tribe is the best scene of the whole predator franchise

I love the concrete jungle feel that this movie has. Sure, LA has been seen before, but I think Predator 2 made it look so... well, alien and hot and grimy and interesting. I don't agree with that bit. The mean spiritedness and the swearing and what not are all positive in my book, although I do agree it could have been gorier.

I read it actually was much more gorier, but they cut it all for the reason of saving R rating, otherwise they would've got NC 17. Sadly it's no director cut for this movie.

Totally agree!

TheAzatec Really? That would be really interesting to see. I hope someone finds an uncut version somewhere one day.

Shihab Hasin 😂 I always laughed that line every time it was spoken! That and “Danny Boy!”

so fucking true man, so fucking true, what was at the time a crappy sequel now looks like one of the better in the series

Couldn't have said it any better myself!

That's called hindsight. At the time the only thing to compare R2/P2 with was R1/P1 and in that regard people were right to complain (not that the sequels were bad, just not as good as everyone hoped). Now we know better and hope there won't be an AvP3.

@@abadenoughdude300 if "Alien vs. Predator" had taken place some years after "Alien 3" and added the Colonial Marines, it would've been a damn good fuckin' movie

DrQuagmire1 Or after Aliens. The Predator heads to LV426 to make sure no Aliens survived and so do some colonial marines for the same reason. And then all hell breaks loose. But they find the Sulaco and rescue Hicks, Newt and Ripley before the events of Alien 3. We find out that Ripley was having a nightmare of losing the only humans she loved and Alien 3 never happened

For predator 2 yes for the predator no

i say that all the time when i have candy lol

MYT MIC NEVER

Danny boy...

Emityna

I do!!

Because it isn’t part one yes I love this movie and certain parts of it I prefer over the first but predator one is the better film but predator is underrated

+Lieutenant Yoshi They were writing on a hunch...1997= Titanic everywhere.

I think 1997 represents the beginning of the downfall of major movie franchise. At this time Lucas was busy writing a shit script for EP1.

@@professionalgun6674 Batman and Robin came out in 1997. So did Spawn. You might be onto something.

Agreed

He's brilliant in Point Break

Madfella Duke good take

Fuck yeah!

Same here

of course bro avp1,2 and predators are like movies made by college film students E grade movies all of them

I actually really enjoyed Predators when it came out and still do, because it did come a bit full circle, with being on an alien jungle world and having more than one predator alien involved.

Predators, although fun, was really just a soft reboot/retread of the first film. Predator 2 was a wholly unique concept that had a few loose ties to a comic series Dark Horse had done in the previous year entitled 'Concrete Jungle'. I personally love this movie as well and haven't never really understood the hate for it, especially considering there are just as many cheesy moments in the first film if that's a complaining point for some.

Predators was absolute dog shit...such a wasted opportunity to bring back the glory days of Predator 1& 2. Adrian Brody as the lead?! gimme a break. Laurence Fishburne was the only character I enjoyed and he was under used.

uh dude, alot of people prefer THIS movie over "Predators"

Glad he didn't show up. His character turned into a bad guy. He was the original Keyes.

@@incanticle699 what Is that real ? ok then

@@loayprettyboy206 yeah. He was supposed to be hunting the predator in the city with the same exact character archetype.

I actually don't consider it a loss, he was good in OG it but he didn't make the movie for me. I didn't mind his absence in pt2, his story was told.

Predators is just a rehash of the og. And takes out all the fun of those scenes and the Beserker Predator is awful

Predators are not that bad, compared to AvP it's even marvelous, but the ending is somewhat lame. Laurence Fishburne was waiting for his fight with predator for so many years and in the end died as a complete noob. That was so stupid. They somehow did not know how to end it I think.

@@keenmate9719 It is just a remake of the first movie

@@DJDonnelly Not to me, at least not completely. For me the biggest problem was the amount of characters that really were more like cameos. They were dying way to fast for my liking. I would also removed the dogs, I mean why would a predator that enjoys a hunt more than life send a dog to do the killing?

lol thank you! my gosh i'm sitting here screaming that ebert thinks violence in a movie entitled, 'Predator,' is a bit much. what?!

Reminds of today's "games journalists" complaining about fanservice in fanservice games. Really...

Feds I never relly thought of predtor as a slasher it a.ways seemed like a glactic hunter film to me

markotark there were 1 ex bodybuilder , arnold and then ex navy seal wrestler, jesse ventura... All others were normal

Well that's one of the reasons that Predator 1 works better in the horror aspect. It takes place in a far less familiar harsh jungle. I know neither of the two are horror movies per se, but the first is objectively scarier. When there are comedic bits with an old woman in an apartment, we all can relate to the setting and thus tension evaporates right in the middle of the third act. Going into the depths to wind up inside the ship was a good call to get the audience back into unfamiliar territory and salvage the ending. Now P1 had a subtle gag when his arm blades slice right down with Arnold's neck in between, but the tension spikes right then instead of making us laugh. It's more of an oh snap moment, but still leans toward the funny side. P1 has a very consistent tone whereas P2 jumps from scary gorefest to "want some candy" kid to special forces team getting slaughtered to old lady one-liners.

markotark Their physiques would not be out of the norm for current/former SFOD-D guys.

The first one felt like the only thing they were going for was having multiple Rambos go at an alien in the jungle. The basic premise wasn’t all that creative, and the scenes involving the Predator were easily the best and most memorable. The 2nd movie took the first one’s strongest points and built the movie upon that. You can feel and see the desperation (especially with Danny) in the fights against it, especially as he and the Predator become more and more wounded as time goes on. It was just an all around great action/horror/sci-fi movie and although it is obviously a product of its time, it’s still a great one.

+Thomas Hudson Thanks Thomas, don't worry i stopped using Siskel and Ebert clips about 2 years ago :)

+Oliver Harper Thank God. Every time I hear them ripping on a movie you're reviewing, which, btw, you have excellent taste in cause I've seen/loved most of the ones you do, it just pisses me off. If I wasn't so damn lazy/lack editing skills, I've been told I should do movie reviews. Mainly because I'm not big on ripping movies to pieces.

+Oliver Harper If you wont be using Siskel & Ebert then maybe have some similar segment of what critics tought of the film at the time of release.

+Thomas Hudson My thoughts too. I got so sick of them although they're relevant in the godzilla review. Just I saw enough of them as a kid, I'm quite over them.

I agree; the review stands on it's own, the informative style and detail are enough to provide a quality review. The S&E segments are not only unnecessary but aggravating in their trademark cluelessness, one of them criticises a film about an intergalactic sport hunter for its violence.

@@tonypass15 I have to agree to a certain extent. Schwarzenegger is a body builder & looks good on film, but Glover is an actor. His work on Lethal Weapon gave the films a certain modesty & class which Gibson couldn't offer.

+TheGreaterGood80 Yes. I think both franchises, this one and Robocop, went down the toilet according to the law of diminishing returns...

+James Barnett Well they have an honor system they wouldn't kill her because she's just a mother defending her child or at least that's what it saw instead if an opponent to fight

Who's they? you mean me the reviewer?

Oliver Harper Not you in particular, I meant Siskel and Ebert. They rated it harshly, yet many people enjoyed and liked this movie that I know.

It's a pretty good movie in its own right. I just think people were expecting something along the lines of what the first film was like and were caught off guard by the direction the sequel took. Personally I find it a very well made film and MILES better than the AVP films.

My dad and I love it. It is actually our favorite one of the two. Don't get me wrong, I love the first one and am a big Arnie fan, but this one feels more exciting.

I wish they would I am dying to see it like real badly

CaptainRufus hahaha some folks love and some hate them. I stopped using clips of them about 2 years ago. Caused to many arguments with my followers.

I see. What a fun thing to deal with.

+CaptainRufus It's mainly because their views/opinions were well out of step with a lot of audiences, even at the time, and especially now.

KRSsven I dunno. There are more church lady types now, mostly on Tumblr. Though at least some of them actually are disaffected not white straight guys.

+CaptainRufus Not white straight guys? What the fuck are you even talking about.

bimapringgo kinda what Predator 2 was minus Mel Gibson.

Riggs would be a great match to a Predator!

The Batman vs. Predator comics are dope

ina way i do to, though i think dutch is better character than harrigan i like the city vibe better than the jungle

No

The creatures of the Alien and Predator movies are so good, a film quality level of Predator 2 (or Alien 3) is perfectly adequate to carry the awesome world building and extraterrestrial genetics mythos it needs and what I mostly require! Though Prometheus, AvP, and AvP:R were real stinkers, especially the latter two which were real letdowns too. And let's not mention the disgusting abomination of Resurrection....

Odin Aesthetic Thank you very much buddy!!

I totally agree. I always learn a thing or two at least from each retrospective!

***** It's called having standards... and "sheltered"? please, not possible in this day and age.

Me neither. Most excuses are so assbackwards and stupid.

+MICHAEL MAH PHOTOGRAPHY If they'd filmed AvP: Prey, with maybe a few tweaks, the AvP films would've been a fantastic addition to both franchises. As it is, most people have only seen them once or twice and have largely forgotten they even exist, which is for the best.

But AVP is based on the first AVP comic its just on earth and they switched the asian hero to a black. The setup ofc is different but there is also a old Alien comic with a identical setup, a lost temple in the desert. Overall i liked AVP but the pasing was rushed and in the end it was just the a mix of the first AVP comic, a Alien comic and HP Lovecrafts At the Mounten of Madness.

Agreed. They did some interesting stuff with the comics.