I use them regularly and have absolutely saved me time! I’m also finding more places don’t want blow torches used so this is an absolute dream!

I worked for Geberit as a service engineer and you MUST follow the instructions when using the press fittings, we had an issue with a press fit water joint which leaked and caused a lot of damage, when we cut out the joint and inspected it we found the the fitter had not de-burred the joint so when he inserted the pipe he damaged the seal.

Looks expensive all round, Swiss and Germans never make anything cheap, also, all the "got to do bits" will be ignored. As a engineer for forty years, we had a saying, "you have to make it c--- proof" Love watching your videos. Keep up the great training. Peace be unto you.

Good video Tomkat, much needed.

No matter what new product comes out in plumbing industry it’s our duty to keep traditional methods at all times which is our pride 👍🏼🙂♥️

Cheers for the tip with the spray to stop the ‘ears’ 👍👌

Thanks Derek great video 👍

Steve taylor sibsey, purchased a rems press gun November last year what a difference in labour saving looks better ,safer to use in lofts excellent for gas work. All round good investment.

For home PRR (good quality like Aquatherm) is still king. More work but the welding is bulletproof. Also PPR support high pressure, insulate well, no water noise. Excellent flow parameters. Yes, it is old but its gold. My 2c

Derek as a commercial gas fitter I have been using Map press for last 10 years I started with Rems I was sceptical at first but got around hot permits for work I run Romax (Rothenberger) 4000 Geberit is same as nova and Milwaukee I believe and use Milwaukee batteries Only use map press fitting using carbon steel or copper Yes it’s dearer to equip but looks better and on the big stuff so much quicker The compact machines like rigid rothenberger are the future for domestic lads No flux solder in pipework no cleaning blowtorch Just better

Thank You for this tutorial. I can rent the press tools for 70 Euro a day, but I have to buy the pipe cutter and the de-burring tool. All the Mapress fittings are cheaper than the Pex brass-fittings etc. And it looks more professional.

Press don't stress 👍👍👍 eliminates the need for a 🔥🔥works permit. I think what puts off the silver solder ring solderers is the cost of the press kit plus the price of fittings 😢😢😢 press reduces installation time prepping copper, can be used with water still in the pipe. NO BRAINER PRESS IS THE WAY FORWARD

Got my NOVOPRESS last year never looked back

I've been looking at these m press set ups .I've stayed away from them but it's becoming unavoidable now , thanks for your efforts.im.still unsure of what to purchase etc

Undoubtedly inevitable. Had this with iron (low carbon steel!) superseding lead.Compression fittings v screwed iron, the arrival of pushfit and MLCP. There are always going to be shortcomings whatever the system. The tried and tested copper pipe and bending techniques look set for a major resurgence, can't be all bad!

Thanks for all the info you supply, really interesting. Why does Gebert suddenly change to Geberit? Do you know? Thanks in advance.

The tool and fittings are for domestic but I like the idea of them. Keeps people using copper

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Pegler uk told me I don't have to remove the chrome off the pipe, iv always agreed with you ,I understand its a rival company but can you clarify that please

Used this in a hospital that had terrible problems with pinholes in copper pipe .good system but crimping tool on 54 mm could be a pain in confined spaces.

Touché push fit for the dustbin sorry recycling bin can not believe professional tradesmen would ever use it even in a crisis

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Marcin Masalski 👍

The Only (Major) Drawerback is that it's a Major Job to Alter Anything

There seems to be a lot of confusion on where Gas Press Fittings can be used e.g under timber floors etc. Some say they must be treated as a compression fitting and some saying to use as you would a soldered fitting.

What pressure can the gebret cooper gas mapress fittings hold up to? I’ve known someone to air test it at 3 bar at first fix stage but wasn’t sure if the pressure would damage the gas o rings at that pressure?

All we use now unless it’s too tight a space, encourages pipe bending, the fittings are expensive.

Can you experiment what will happen when soldering and press fit get mixed on a installation, so what does the heat do to the press fit on a installation. I can imagine if it's nearby the seal will fail but how far can you be before it's workable. Thanks

For work in a commercial setting press is a no brainier, no setting of smoke alarms, or risk of damage or fire risk, but for myself, I only do domestic work now and the cost of the tool and the fittings work out too expensive, why people use them on domestic properties I can’t understand

It's expensive for domestic Regards Faruk

Got 2 guns, wont ever go back

Just seen this video and start laughing on how UK behind plumbing technology. In Eastern Europe we use press fitting since early 90s. Actually in Germany just Iron screw and press nothing else.. I am Hungarian and nothing else we use is press and screw Iron nearly 30 years now, never had issue, since I do heating 20 years or so I had maybe 2 leak on Carbon Steel, and maybe same on copper due to faulty fitting.. Reason against solder is hot work, and flux which cause pin hole leak and time. Time is money. We do 1 st fix on 3 -4 bed house hot cold and heating on 1 day 1 man with 3 distribution manifold on wall and MLCP press Emmeti brand. 👍Recently just seen that crap plastic speedfit cost twice than press.. Dunno why people say press expensive when they use that crap DiY plastic and which more expensive.🤔

I still solder, but mappress gets used a fair bit ( domestic and commercial). No hot works permits and all the method statements/ risk assessments required when your in a rush. Loads of issues with carbon steel pineholes in pipework though, so don't use that anymore. Also those moaning about rubber o' rings, what do boilers and taps, pushfit etc have in them 🤦.

Do they still have red spot black spot?

I've used it mate but it's horrible to work with. Just solder it. It is cheaper, and better, with no tool maintenance each year. If you use it in commercial applications it can be good because you have loads of room. As for domestic, I find wannabe plumbers use these tools because they can solder, so there are loads of bends in their work. Bulky fittings, AND, it has rubbers in it which will eventually deteriorate.

I dont see the point domestically, commercial yeah, on a 30kw boiler in a cupboard whats the point 😄

Takes very little skill. I just wonder how long the o- rings will last if a system becomes dirty. They need to make the tool and fittings cheaper.

I do not like the rubber seals .. they are destined to fail ... heating system 50 years old soldered still no leaks and compression brass olive never fail maybe a tool for simply tightening up nuts ? hey ho

And it has to be calibrated 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not quicker than speed fit , . The tool costs a bomb not to mention the price of fittings . Try getting that tool under a bath or in the corner of a full kitchen unit , swapping heads all the time it would take you 3 times as long to 1st fix a house + 3 times more expensive, why ????

Another skill plumber's will lose we will soon be semi skilled

My gas bottle does all sizes of pipe and cost £40 !!!!

Absolutely ridiculous, I can not believe how long it takes to do 1 joint , with all the faffing around. How much would you charge to first fix a house, + the expense of all the fittings. You would be there months, 25 grand for a 1st fix , brilliant!!!!!!

Seems like a backward step…

They are total rubbish