Great insight Jason. Thanks for the info.

Using an jet on a roof can also cause the shingles to fly up due to the amount of pressure, unless you use a modified x jet. This is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of x jets for roof cleaning. That and the mist as you stated. You'll also use lot more bleach

Hey Jason.. Thanks for the insight and your replay. I'm just trying to double check here though because this is different than what Doug Rucker says... I'm not saying you're wrong but one of these is correct and the other isn't. He says 50% or 6.25 in the bucket is going to hit the house at 6.25/50%.... I don't see how that can be the case but can you confirm here? Thanks for your info again!

@@mattmayo937 the x jet comes with tiny proportioner tips which allows you to apply different chemicals at different ratios. Using the x jet without a tip, (barb only) produces a 2 to 1 ratio, or 50%. Whatever your mix is in the bucket, cut it in half when using it this way.

@@jasongroff7692 what about reducing to half throttle, doesn’t that increase the chemical amount? Because you are now pulling about half the amount of water?

Thank you.

We put the shut off valve on the modified too. Great point that you can rinse quicker and hit plants faster.

ImC00LyourNOT I do not recommend using x jet to clean a roof. To much pressure and you’ll way too much mix.

Sounds like you might be the most experienced so far on XJET.... Can you answer this for me? If I use none of the colored proportioners and I make a 50/50 mix of SH/water which makes it land at 6.25% in the bucket.... When I shoot it with xjet, what % is hitting the house? 6.25% or 3.125%?? Thanks in advance for your help!

@@mattmayo937 Hi Matt, if you are using 12.5% SH then a 50/50 mix is our standard Housewash mix and it’s a little over 2%. 70/30 will be around a 3% mix and straight will give you a decent 4+% mix for roofs. I use long siphon hoses 30’ , 50’ & 100’ ; as you begin to raise the hose up a ladder suction begins to struggle, depending on how high up and at what angle you’ve placed your chemical tank. I use a 55 gallon vertical tank attached to an aluminum hand truck. I only fill about 30 gallons because of the weight. It helps to reduce splash when transporting around the property. Soft wash systems are great because you can get a much higher % at a lower volume, hence making less mess around bushes and plants, grass etc. with that being said you must keep vegetation wet always because the risk is also greater. The XjetM5 allows you to lay chems much faster and with much more pressure, allowing for greater heights. It is possible to attain that 4% hot mix as well but to get anything greater you’d need to use a pump-up or a soft-wash system. I find the Xjet tackles all jobs effectively and efficiently. Determining % of mix; there are so many factors that come into play, how long has the Chlorine been exposed to sunlight, what source did the chlorine come from, how has the chlorine been stored, how old is the chlorine, has the orifice in the Xjet gotten larger with use… it is not an exact science when taking these things into consideration. You can use the average method I gave you above to better help you batch your chems. It then will become trial and error and you’ll learn what works fir you in the climate you’re in and the amount of organic matter present on the surface you are cleaning. Thanks for your question and I hope this helps!

@@t-n-tpressurecleaning7781 Won't using a longer hose lower the concentration as it has more resistance to pull the chem or bleach. I was hoping with the short hose and bring the bleach up the ladder to get closer to 50%? I know more labor intensive but hoping it will get me by until I get a soft wash system. I have also found putting a little jomax makes the bleach kick and be strong for a short period of time, and stuff doesn't grow back as quick, that was back in the day when I did pressure washing.

@@jerwgar I suggest using a 12v for roof cleaning and eventually getting a gas powered soft wash system. Carrying SH up a ladder and surfactant too gets old really quickly and can be dangerous depending on the severity of the pitch. It can be done and yes a shorter hose has a faster draw but holding onto a chemical pail is also very dangerous up on a roof. I bought a 12 volt 4.0 gpm bleach pump from northern tool (northstar system) just to make life easier and get a 5%-6% mix to really clean the roof with no pressure. I am building a trailer with the AR-45 gas powered system now. Xjetting roofs can be done but it’s not ideal. I still use it for everything else. Hope this helps and please be careful if you decide to go at it old school style.

I’m new to This Business only a month in. Could you send me the links to the stuff your talking about?

Thank you.

Michael C your very welcome. Glad it helped

It is a love hate relationship w x jet. Be careful using a backpack sprayer the bleach will eat the seals out and could leak down your back. I’ve seen many injuries caused by this.

Awesome. Sounds like you got a great set up and process.

Thanks. Welcome to the Channel

Thank you. Appreciate it.

I'm not aware of anyone that has tried it. Nor have I. Seems to me you'd always pull chem w no way to rinse, as the X-jet does not operate w the venturi affect like a DS injector.

Glad it was helpful!

Yes many different ways to use an x jet....we modify ours so it's more like downstreaming....but if we use the x jet twice a year thats a lot. Just not one of the tools we need to use to often

exactly my thought..."it has it's purposes"

X-jet m5 "toy". Kicks ass and has made me alot of money.

You can do that but it will not be the same results as x Jet as far as strength. Difference is X-Jet does not operate off a venturi like an injector does. Injector requires pressure difference to draw the chemical. X jet uses the high pressure at the wand

Thank you glad to know it helped

Will be nice if it does.

Best comment. Your exactly right

We use a shooter nozzle. Depending on the flow rate of your machine 4-8GPM you can reach 2-4 story’s

They are awesome. Went so many years without one now I cant go work without it. Lol

Foam Cannon would be lower pressure, but I would not use a foam cannon fro a roof or house wash except to make a nice looking presentation of soap. Wont really do anything for the cleaning

For me, I just prefer not to have to change proportioners. Especially for bleach. If I was using it for a degreaser or acid product then I might would consider using proportioners.

Thanks

There is an instruction manual that will come with it, and is also on our web site that will have ratios on it. Hopefully soon we will also have a calculator that can be used.

@@PressureCleaningSch thanks I will check the web

Get the basic fundamentals down and practice on your home, friends and family homes before taking in customers. My online school will help drastically cut your learning curve. Wish you Best of luck.

Are you meaning move the downstream injector closer to the or at the gun? You could but won't make much difference in pulling. If the higher pressure tip is pulling soap the tip. Sounds like the orifice is to large. Could be the hole as gotten larger over time from water pressure or wasn't milled correctly from the manufacturer.

We have them in stock. Just got more in today

Jeff Goldbloom yes that is correct

@@PressureCleaningSch Good video, So like Jeff said the downstream at the end of the gun becomes an extra? How does that make the mix stronger when it comes out? What is the difference

@@josephbailey7408 its being diluted with less water since it's not going through all the hose

Gary Hagler If you’re talking about the check valve adapter for the downstream injector know it’s still is not gonna be strong enough for cleaning a roof

No. It will not get it strong enough. You need a dedicated pump system.

Sorry I don’t own an electric pressure and I doubt you can downstream w one. I also do not own a water broom

Thank you........

Yeah love taking something really dirty and making it look new again

probably a little over 1%, but you'd need to do a bucket test to get your % since all machines are different.

Mainly because it’s not designed to lower the psi of the machine to draw the chemical like a DS injector.

Correct...plumb one to bleach and the other to water, and just switch the valve between tile two when needed.

Because just like a DS injector the closer your injector is to the pump, the stronger your mix will be, as its not getting diluted with the water coming down the hose.

@@PressureCleaningSch Oooh ok, tell me if I understand. So the LENGTH of the hose in the downstreaming method will make the SH dilute much more than XJet, which has a shorter way to go (next to the gun) resulting in a higher concentration. I was thinking they would both dilute in the same way but that's not true. I was forgetting the hose impact. Thank you for enlightening me!

If your doing roofs definitely build yourself a 12v over the x jet

"Suds" don't do anything for the cleaning. The surfactant helps to keep the surface wetter longer thereby allowing the bleach to change the color of the stains quicker. The bleach doesn't remove the stains it just changes the color of them. While more surfactant may cause the mix to "stick" the tradeoff is it takes longer to get that color change and also will "stick" to anything else better like plants and causes longer rinse time if you are going to rinse the surface. Proper spray technique, not flooding the surface, is the best way.

@@PressureCleaningSch thanks so much for explaining this

@@Gottifire Very welcome

In this link is the x-jet instruction manual. Scroll down in the description part and you’ll see it. From there you see the ratios based on the GPM of your machine. And also if any inserts are used. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-m5-long-range-external-chemical-injection-nozzle/

Maybe just because you can get a hotter mix? So less water to apply the same amount of chem? My xjet says it maxes out at 3:1, and my downstream says 10:1. That's my best guess on that one, as the gpm of the actual machine wont be affected very much either way.

It basically allows you to remove the ball in Spring inside of the Injector and can cause you to draw a stronger mix. Will also help your injector to last longer

@@PressureCleaningSchHow much stronger are we talking about ? 2-3% ?

@@sergiodominguez1627 could be depending on the GPM of your machine and strength of your bleach.

Yes it is talked about in a couple videos

Also looking for a good soapy surfactant. What in using now just don't have enough bubbles and it's hard to tell what's already been washed

www.dougruckerstore.com/products/check-valve-for-chemical-injectors/

www.dougruckerstore.com/products/dougie-fresh-surfactant-1-gallon/

Any idea on the percent of mix you can get with a 8 GMP using it? Maybe 1.5 or 2%?

1 more question and I'll leave you alone lol. Where did you get your company shirts made? Those are nice

I doubt that it will work well on that small of a machine.

I’ve only used 100 feet but I’ve heard guys say they have used 200. I wouldn’t think it would.

An 0060 or the original shooter tip

Hard to say. To many variables in play. You could do a bucket test and check.

On our web site the wood cleaner and the tannin brightener is what I use for cleaning fences and decks.

Thanks! Do you think the xjet m5 is suitable/appropriate for fence cleanings?

The x-jet instruction manual has a chart based on your GPM and which insert to use

www.dougruckerstore.com/products/downstream-bypass-injector-kit/

Yes it is

100% agree

The most would all depend on the nozzle you using

All depends on the surface you are clearing, the degree of staining, machine you are using, hose length, strength of SH etc. Lot of variables

We can get them.

Glad it was helpful!

Not completely familiar w that pump but you may be able to plug it and add a DS injector. I'd check with you who bought it from first though.

www.dougruckerstore.com/products/check-valve-for-chemical-injectors/

Downstream your mix will not get strong enough to clean a roof. X jet would be a PITA and take way longer, not to mention lugging a bucket or tank or drum around. Much better off doing it the way you are doing it.

Doug Rucker thanks appreciate the insight. We’re doing good so far with the system we have. Just may need to upgrade to a bigger tank and longer hose. But we’ve made our money back and some in like 3 weeks so I can’t complain. Thanks for the help.

Mainly cause you can get a stronger mix than downstreaming. Think of soft wash equipment as a pump up sprayer on steroids. Just don’t have to do the pump up and refilling the jug.

Not sure either will reach 2.5 stories w a 2.3 GPM machine. But I’d probably try x jet since it will have a little more pressure. But can’t guarantee you’ll get that get high with that low a GPM machine.

Were you able to reach up to 2.5 stories with your machine?

Alberto all ours are built to order...

Not that I am aware of. I think they are available off Amazon.

Alejandro Acuna Very true lots of hardy plank all over the Houston area

Yes. I do not recommend it for roofs though.

@@PressureCleaningSch Hi so I can only use for down streaming Can I use modified X jet with J Rod will that be safe to use for soft wash

@@ezlimo9454 yes. It will be like downstreaming

@@PressureCleaningSch Thank you for explaining me and I can buy everything from you

@@ezlimo9454 your very welcome

If you leave the bypass on so it always runs bleach, when you use the 3 way then every time you switch the 3 way to water you are rinsing the injector at the same time.

I would go with 1/2-1 gallon SH and the rest water in a 5 gallon bucket....

You can always use the inserts if you want. Just follow the chart provided with your x jet if thats what you prefer. Much easier and I recommend to dilute according to your needs in the bucket to save time instead of having to change the inserts out based on each individual job needs. On the last page of the instructions that come w your x jet read in full the "recipe for House Washing" for more info and tips.

@@PressureCleaningSch hi Doug to be honest mate. I preffer a 12v fatboy pump and batch mix

​@@PressureCleaningSch Hey Doug! Love your videos as I am subscriber who has learned a lot from you. Like Island Raw above, with the XJet I thought you put 100% SH in the pail and let the proportioners get you the desired percent. Currently, I only clean flatwork (sidewalks/driveways etc) with 12.5% and need approx 3-4% on the surface. But I'd much rather use your method of mixing 1/3 SH and 2/3 water in the pail....but how does it not dilute the SH strength with all of the extra water coming in from the hose/house? (I completely get it if I'm using a dedicated pump up sprayer but don't get the concept with the extra water). Are we saying that at 12.5%, a 50/50 ratio in the pail would get me around 5-6% on the surface? I thought I had it figured out but now I am confused. Any clarification is much appreciated! Thank you.

@@63bigjack When mixing in my bucket for x jet. First i do not use the inserts, and I always mix in the bucket how I want it to come out. So if I want a 50/50 mix, I put 1/2 bleach in the bucket and 1/2 water., no inserts. What comes out will not be an exact 50/50 but will be fairly close. I’m not trying to get an exact %. I’m just trying to get it strong enough to change the color of the organic stains. If your want a more exact % then your are correct in using the inserts. Hope that helps.

You'd need to use the soap box but don't run bleach through it, sounds like one of those that the detergents go through the pump

For house washing w bleach they aren’t needed.

All depends on the flow rate of your machine. Anywhere from 30-45 feet

Sure can.

Trent Thompson poly braid hose

You can x jet a house, but I don't recommend for a roof. I recommend and use the Kings Kling surfactant. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/kings-kling-roof-and-house-surfactant/

All depends on the machine your using surface your cleaning and how bad the stains are.

@@PressureCleaningSch thanks for reply, I get that that with the xjet but with down streaming do you put say 12.5 sh in a bucket and draw it straight from or do you still have to mix like the xjet.

@@richardmauch1042 on my 5&8GPM we just downstream straight 12.5%

@@PressureCleaningSch just made an order from your store yesterday. Surface cleaner and a little this and that.

@@richardmauch1042 thank you very much. Appreciate your business

Both are on our web site. www.dougruckerstore.com/products/downstream-bypass-injector-kit/.

www.dougruckerstore.com/products/x-jet-modified-gun/

Gotta have a pump. These are made for using with pressure washers. Hope ok understanding your question correctly. If not let me know.

I have a 4200 psi 4gpm pressure washer just no soft wash system

@@Kgoutdoor yes you can a stronger mix w the x jet, not as strong as a soft wash pump, but stronger than a downstream injector

You can use a 5 gallon bucket no problem

Doug Rucker thanks bro

Yes. That’s the original tried and true soft washing. Can’t clean a roof though by downstreaming.

Yes it will.

@@PressureCleaningSch Pros and cons to everything I suppose

@@micah68ss you are exactly right

So if it well where out the gun? Why are we still using the downstream method if it will eventually ruin our gun?

@@melodymashup I’ve been down-streaming this whole time (except for roof washes) and as long as everything gets rinsed properly damage from SH is minimal except for the quick connects,those seem to corrode no matter what

Out of the orange. The gun we sent is the same gun just different color.

@@PressureCleaningSch Oh ok no biggie. Rated at 12 gpm nice!

@@PressureCleaningSch Thanks for adding the t-shirt in there. Next shipment send the blue one from this video. Haha just kidding.

@@PressureCleaningSch Do you use this x jet modified gun to soap only or rinse as well?

@@adamg.3138 I use it for both when I use it

Here’s the link www.dougruckerstore.com/products/downstream-injector-kit/

Thanks for this... Also... I'm looking for chemicals.. I'm only looking for chemicals for my house and family homes

All I use are the brass and they last a good while. If your rinsing after each use I dint know why it’s not working. What soap do you use.

Southeast Softwash. I know other folks who use it without any issues.

Don’t think you’ll get that a high of a mix and I dint recommend using x jet for cleaning a roof. Unless you can spray it all from the gun using the modified x-jet