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You gotta remember everything in the 2003 GLB fell under the lolita fashion umbrella. There was no such thing as “it’s not lolita cuz it’s missing that cupcake/bell silhouette”. That was a rule added much later that almost seems to come from the west? Old school gothic (not just dark color sweet) had a very different, unique silhouette and they’re still very much lolita. You can’t take the past and claim it’s not lolita because the term has changed. Recently almost bought a meta piece that came in what we all consider a universal lolita cut and one of those long “not lolita it’s aristocratic” cut. That’s simply how the fashion used to look. It’s kinda sad it’s less unique and varied now.

I love all substyles within 'old school' egl, including mini hats because they're smol and useless, serving literally no function except to be odd and extra, which I find absolutely charming hehe.

I love that gothic lolita brands were more willing to experiment with different cuts! I feel like a lot of the sweet designs don't take any risks on cuts and focus on different prints.

Mana’s styling of that pleather dress you had mentioned was a complete serve omg. I would love to see pieces like that make a big comeback

what I find so fascinating about old gothic lolita specifically is that is seems to be more inspired by goth fashion of the time instead of lolita. i like that difference. in my opinion, some lolita styles can be so repetitive, and I know that's mostly because of the fact that lolita has so many rules, but still, it can be very refreshing to see old gothic lolita that wants its customers to be unique.

Does anyone think that maybe the ending story by Mana-sama is dedicated to Kami? I know that Kami passing away took a huge toll on Mana and he has a few songs that are in memory of Kami. The last story was so sad, and instantly it just made me think of Kami.

lor is so elegant when she tries gothic lolita

Every time I see Mana-Sama I just…. *swoon* 😵💕

I started out in classic, fell in love with gothic and I'm now starting sweet 😁

Gothic Lolita fashion is so beautiful imo

Hello there, So far my daughter and I love classic; and within classic I find you can easily give it a sweet twist or play up the gothic. I think that’s why I prefer classic, just because it’s more subtle and can be diverse because of its subtlety. We love you Lor!

I'm just a goth girl, but I really love the dark Mori/strega style. I think my favorite version of lolita is definitely the punk Lolita

I'm a gothic lolita, so far I have 5 dresses soon to be 6. I don't have too many accessories or pieces to go with all of them yet but i'm slowly getting there.

Lor, I actually identify as a vintage girl, specifically leaning into 1947-1955. Your videos are wonderful to watch, because I love learning about different subcultures and styles, and truthfully I feel like there are a lot of details in common between vintage styling and lolita. It seems like you need to do a video on classic lolita, seeing as nobody seems to know what it is! Research time!

You reminded me that I have a suitcase full of old visual kei, and Kera magazines. To my surprise, one of the Keras had an almost untouched sticker sheet in it :O

I got into lolita fashion about a year ago, my style lies somewhere between gothic and classic, but i do have tiny hints of sweet here and there!

Im surprised as iconic as mana is that there are not much videos on mana and his life and his contributions to egl

I don’t wear lolita fashion but I appreciate the aesthetics!! So beautiful!! I love wearing bright happy colors! And some days i like wearing all black🖤🦇usually I will wear a black outfit the day after i wear something really colorful 🌈❤️

I found out about Lolita and loved it but I wished there was a more masculine style- and bam Ouji! I love Ouji and I started collecting pieces finally about a year ago hopefully I’ll get a lot on my birthday! I also like gothic Lolita but I’m mostly a Ouji collector- (which is funny since I have more Lolita stuff currently rather than Ouji)

My girlfriend is gothic lolita mix with some sweet and classic together but she likes all substyles of lolita that she likes to use cybergoth as well , and mix with goth and sweet and classic it depends but she loves being able to express herself with it and also dancing in industrial with her lolita coords really do make it more pop .... also the way Lor describe the glb with the gothic lolita fashions that has evolved from really has helped me understand more about lolita fashion and respecting it.

i’m just straight up goth! but i love all alternative fashions and i love ur vids :)

I’ve wanted to get into gothic Lolita since middle school but I have extreme social anxiety and I’m broke and don’t have a job and when I do have money it would probably go to doll collecting instead lol

Kind of on a tangent here but here we are! 5 or so years ago I was a sweet lolita- but now here I am, a gothic ouji, slowly having to learn entirely new sides of the style I thought I knew! It’s taking forever to figure things out, but I feel so much more myself (I also came out as nonbinary, and the gender euphoria of looking like a fancy little prince is IMMENSE for me) and I managed to get hold of one of the iconic Atelier Boz Roland coats recently and I cannot WAIT to coord it. That and my one Moitie item are part of my soul now

im very much into old school but i feel it's just easy to lean a bit more gothic because most modern "goth" releases are just so accessible if that makes sense

I want a full video of just Mana ad appreciation

One frustrating thing that I've noticed is that there isn't as much classic lolita content online. This is also fascinating considering that classic lolita is rather popular (especially among newer lolitas).

Gothic lolita was my first love but now that I'm actually starting buying pieces and bracing myself for wearing lolita in public for the first time I found that I lean more towards classic/hime style.

I'm kind of a mix between Aristo, Gothic and Classic lolitas! I like the more streamlined, historical looks as opposed to the bright, colorful patterns, but the pastels in Sweet are really pretty to me, too, so I've been kind of eyeing some outfits. And Hime's over the top chifon and frills and ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING is just GORGEOUS!

I don't think I've ever been this early!

Oooh your eye makeup is so nice!!!

I love the way you wore this blouse!!

I just need you to know that the dress + velvet bow combo during your sponsor portion reminds me so much of the Samantha doll from American Girls that I had when I was little, and I love it.

I confess I don't wear Lolita at all, but I follow it because I love looking at fashion in relation to history and culture. And, I think it is lovely and people look so happy when they are wearing their cords.

6:58 would be incredible for a plague doctor coord

I agree with the comment about the backgrounds, though it's hard to judge on a screen. maybe its the graphic designer speaking but that lack of contrast can be bothersome

I would LOVE to see you try and do a mana style coord or replicate (as best you can) one of his looks.

I'm I'm happy to see you in Moitie. I do videos based on Moi Meme Mojtoe and my hauls. You look great in goth. You're my favourite lolita to watch, next to Andrea who used to work for Moitie and did insta lives. She's a mature lolita who inspired me to pick up lolita 10+ years later at 25

Mana sama is such an icon in gothic lolita

Love your videos 💕💕💕💕☺️🌸

thank you for translating the MmM exerpts !! I never knew the meaning before! this sounds like typical Mana

Not a Lolita per say just a goth but I really enjoy mixing Lolita style co-ords and silhouettes with a more trad/ vampiric goth edge I think the look is so interesting lmao

I've only been doing this for a year and I'm really into gothic style but some of the dresses I've bought so far read pretty classic especially since I don't have much yet to make them super gothic

I love when showa era art was put on gothic lolita bible covers!!! That macoto takahashi cover is stunning, theyre one of my favourite artists! Some favourite characters from riyoko ikeda series popped up on the glb covers too. Ever since ive dug deeper into showa manga and fashion its been super apparent that a lot of us lolitas had kind of a missing link in that showa shojo art from the 60s and 70s was SO pivotal to lolita development (anime and pop culture too tbh). Even just looking at some takahashi pieces you can see everything from the silhouette to the hair, accessories, etc. all intact back then! The trends back then especially in japan leaned towards really specific time periods and themes of royalty and western motifs, mixed with preexisting styles of the time. Its no wonder the glb directly used classic images from these artists tbh, but its easily missed by most overseas lolitas unless you fall headfirst into showa nerd mode like me lol but its good to know! And excellent for fashion inspiration and styling for obvious reasons Im a bit tired rn so i couldn't give a comprehensive summary but i highly encourage more lolitas to look into earlier showa retro manga art!! Its not talled about nearly enough

HOLY UNICORN CRAP WHAT IS THAT BEAUTIFUL PINK DRESS AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!

where’s your wig from? i love the colour so much it matches the gothic colour pallet so well

I'm gothic lolita and I love pretty much everything. I remember seeing the guro substyle when I was in high school and my little edgelord heart was so blown away by it. I finally got into lolita cause of the Rona and guro doesn't exist anymore, but it does in my heart.

Mana was also in a band named malice mizer which disband in 2001

Do a KZfaq short translating another gothic Lolita bible story of moi dix mois and moi même motie advert please!!

my interest is mostly in old school sweet, though i have a few old classic pieces and also some that could be worn in a gothic way. i love the old stuff from the usual brands, ap, meta, baby. but lately i am especially drawn to 80s~90s pink house, 90s jane marple and milk, also maid lane revue (though it's so hard to find..). like kameno from KISSxxxx style :>

I always looked for GLB when I got interested in the fashion and it was really hard to find anything :c. At least in my country there wasn't almost any info on lolita :c. I own some sweet lolita dresses but they tend to be more toned down (sunflowers, little berries, black with golden stars), 2 classic lolita dresses bc I absolutely love chocolate brown and ivory tones, 1 sailor, and one qi lolita dress. It's a bit more complicated to coordinate them and i tend to cood them in more casual ways (leaning more to otome) but I love having that versatility :') the only OTT motifs i wouldn't mind wearing are bunnies bc bunnies are adorable and i love them ☺️. Something I'd love to see in lolita are more jewel tones being used (like forest/emerald green) or tones like gray & brown, I thing it'd be stunning :').

I’m too new to Lolita to be able to say I have an established style yet, but the pieces I like and have bought so far are gothic with a small mix of sweet. I bought that Pumpkin Cat dress that looks like it has ‘how to train your dragon’ dragons all over it, which is both cute but still dark colored. That’s the kind of sweet I like ❤️ But thank you so much for inspiring me to get into Lolita fashion, I’ve always liked it but I’ve always felt too old/not cute enough. I wasn’t confident enough when I was younger, and knew I wouldn’t be able to stand up to the criticism I would get from my family and jerkwads in college. Now I’m older, married, and don’t gaf >_< but I still needed the inspiration and push. Thank you Lor!

Feel really bad that you haven't been able to post lately. Just giving a boost :)

I’m new to the fashion but I’m more classic/gothic. Heck, I just scored the spooky origami skirt and hanori

I dress in fairy kei and general kawaii style, but I’m thinking of starting lolita too and I really like sweet and hime

I'm glad we can agree on the tiny hats

It’s funny you say that you can’t really see any of the details on the gothic dresses because that’s how I feel about a lot of sweet prints! If you have a dress that’s entirely pastels, it becomes hard to actually see the details in the print because everything is so light and there’s no contrast to make certain elements stand out. It just ends up looking like one big blur and becomes visually uninteresting to me. But you’re right, the details on gothic dresses are also hard to see everything is black. I guess classic is the true winner here lol

i'm quite literally stuck in Sweet Lolita Hell thanks to kyary pamyu pamyu (even though her style definitely isn't lolita but more kawaii than anything) but if I did have the room in my closet and monie, I would do classic too!!

I thought I was classic and then just ended up collecting other substyles...lol. So I feel like Im ok but not a master in any substyles XD The way I "optimize" my wardrobe is with this venn diagram - Sweet and gothic are harder to coord (but not impossible) but sweet and gothic pieces can coord with a classic piece easier. Also my color choices are fairly basic (red, black, white/cream, browns) so I can coord with not a lot of trouble. However, my choices on sweet go out of range sometimes so I decided to make it more of a capsule wardrobe. Also, basic cute white/cream blouses are even more of a must have if you want to wear all styles lol. And to add, I got these split blouses with detable drapey sleeves. They work with my classic and sweet dresses and of you wanna be spicy, you can tie different colors together to make a color block blouse. Versatile items like these are👌 Not sure if this is helpful but I thought I'd share how I manage my mess haha!

Mana ♡

I just learned, that the designer from Black Peace Now founded Sheglit after BPNs closed down... which makes me happy.

Not the mini hats 😩

i love lots of styles, can't really afford lolita, but I love watching videos about it and making "coords" on pinterest/tumblr XD my actual style ended up being dresses/leggings/various flats kinda violet harmon/bernadette banner/rahcel maksy/grade school teacher

I love your makeup like this and have always felt you look best as a gothic lolita. Your under eye circles actually look amazing accentuated and I hope you continue playing with this trend because it honestly really suits your face. You look great girl 🖤

I wanna do AfroPunk Lolita . Like SO BAD !!

That hair is my humid summer hair😂

Lor: You can be classic.. whatever that is. Me: :)

have you bought from sweetie lolita and is it good? I might buy a dress from there

i really wanna do clowncore lolita

I’m not a Lolita at all but I really love your videos for some reason😅❤️

+LovelyLor *Thanks for the modeling example of a typical Gothic set of coords.* The _Gothic & Lolita Bible_ looks a useful periodical for reference. Would O·P·I® had gone ahead with a Union Pacific Collection for Spring 2019; a gloss charcoal shimmer "Suzi-ized Iron" would have been an ideal nail for your outfit this vid.

August 21st, 2021 Gothic lolita style is almost seizing me

"Your daily dose of cute and a fun chaser from this video? Oh, it's here." *points to "The DARK Conspiracies of KumaKumya and UsaKumya". xD you know what, I _will_ check it out. Anyway, loved the video.

The Gothic Lolita Bible is the best thing ever

I'm somewhere between sweet and elegant, but everything I have also falls under country, atleast a little bit :D

I heard of the main three and choose a less talked about substyle called punk

could anyone tell me how the name "Mona Moté" is spelled? Lor's pronouciation makes it sound french (wich I suck at) so it's hard to look him up online, I like his 'fits in this video so I wanted to check it out funfact: YT's subs say it was "Mona Mother" lol

every time you mention mini hats i have an extremely long cringe at my past self making cardboard and felt ones for every outfit and getting picked on by even my alternative friends but insisting it was part of my lolita-inspired emo style

Don't bash my mini-hats :(

lovely, make Lolita tea party or Lolita party, please

omg im early ? :0

I would love to be a sweet Lolita but I don’t have any money and am a miner so I can’t do much about it 😭

Agree, just dun stereotype yourself first

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Third!

Maybe an interesting question to discuss: can you still be a Lolita if you just collect dresses/coords?

your make up is better.