This is SUCH a well-written show.

@@wtimmins Insane as I've seen so many people saying "brain dead writing." absolutely not.

@@wtimmins IMO the greatest video game adaptation of all time

@@christianmichael3120 I would not go that far.

@@disneydreamers95 what is than? Last of Us was close, I can’t think of any others that were good

I definitely hadn’t made that connection… so many things they kept consistent.

I knew as soon as she said that she was really up there, but the reveal was still fantastic.

Yeah, it’s a powerful callback when Lucy visualizes the memory shown here at around @12:38 Lucy is apparently around 6 with her Mom & Moldaver near the corn fields & trammin Shady Sands. Lucy had apparently conflated the projected scene & the faux-sun backdrop with her Shady Sands memory under the real sun. How psychotic do you have to be into thinking that billions of dead for the elite select few passes the utilitarian ends justifies the means calculus test? The twisted & disturbing part is that we can see this as a critique on the current state of humanity & how it could be plausible to some in power these days? To think that people could actually dream it up & believe in it with conviction is truly disturbing. Throughout history, many have convinced themselves on the justification of the worst possible acts. Like They said, many want to save the worked, they just disagree on how to do it. That’s the rub. There’s always another omnipotent being who thinks they’ve figured it all out & if they were in charge, they could fully realize the failed utopian ideals of the past because they just didn’t do it it right like I would. Mind blowing.

that realization hit me hard while watching. Brilliant!

I honestly think this show has more mass appeal than The Boys. I know a lot of people who are straight up not interested in superhero related media that have seen this. I’d imagine Amazon is going to be doing everything it can to get this back into production and have it be one of their crowned jewels, like Netflix with Stranger Things

I strangely heard, as that question was asked, a thousand people consecutively saying "Gary."

Hi Gary.

gaaaaaarrry...

Hahahaha Gaaaary!

Gary?

THIS. 🙂

Absolutely.

Okey dokey 😒

Get the torches…

How the same words can have such different feeling and meaning from one episode to this one.

nice

He really is Roland without a nose, and started the show with approximately the same moral compass.

Because war ...war never changes

"I bet it must be a chore to drag the headless guy out of the power armour and get himself into his place." "Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience." "Oh, really?"

Wow wow wow.

"Ohhh! Nuking an entire city out of existence to get back at your ex is TIGHT!" "What?!" "What?"

@@Ductoslol I can hear him saying this.

With the same slightly tinny-sounding military/patriotic band music playing.

dude got 1 luck for sure

He kept his end of the deal

@@batjd Oh, yeah. He absolutely thinks he's doing the right and noble thing, unaware that Lucy's entire moral universe has just been flipped upside-down and that she would call off the deal if she could. As Wilzig predicted, she no longer wants the same things now that she's become a different animal altogether.

@@everythingamazing2379 I would say Max has jinxed perk and 5 Luck considering how lucky he was in some of those situation of death. But yeah he's still have that unlucky trait

He also saved that crazy dude who turn out to be chicken enjoyer

Pretty much the definition of Pyrrhic Victory...which is INTENSELY Fallout.

I mean yeah, its Wilzig's comment to Lucy in the very beginning about still wanting the same things by the end.

"until I was six, I really thought the big lamp was the sun."

I’ve watched a lot of reactions and no one who said they played Fallout has mentioned that in their reactions. When I saw him in the meeting, it was the first thing I said: Mr. House!

Well why would you spoil it for us man ?

Maybe Hank is heading to New Vegas to seek for Mr. House's help. Perhaps the Mr. House winning is the canon ending of NV

Same, I like to think that's how all of that played New Vegas and thoroughly loved it reacted. The reveal of New Vegas alone supercharged my hype for Season 2. They really did Fallout justice with this show man, all the nods and paying homage to the games, I can't wait.

you know something hitted hard when they took off their headphones

@@scar4driveralso i don't remember him saying "OH SHIT" so clearly xD

Yeah, throughout there are little moments where his accent slips away and he talks like he did Pre-War. It really shows that 'the Ghoul' is basically another role or character he's playing. He usually loses the accent when he's with Dogmeat, or during that one bit of his fight with Maximus where he fell through the wood.

@@lilchaos9212 definitely. Only way he's been able to cope with who he's had to become.

Also his hand is shaking (look at the gun). In all of the other scenes his hand on the gun is always 100% steady.

@@masha22092000r That moment is 100% meant to parallel Cooper's "Do I have to shoot him?" scene pre-war. Only I suppose this time he's fighting the urge TO shoot Hank because he needs answers/for Hank to lead him to his boss.

@@danielmoore9777 Oh yeah, it's totally some deep, traumatised coping mechanism in some way. Everything he does as the Ghoul (how he literally walks and talks) is just like how he played his roles in his acting scenes, only way more intense and dark.

Maximus was just really awkward and not really good at expressing himself but I never felt for the whole “he might be a bad guy” thing

also they have a hate bones for Maximus the entire fucking serious. very weird.

I thought Dane was lying to protect Maximus?

@@Mopark25 The show left it really ambiguous. But why would Dane be lying to protect him if it was Maximus who did it and she knew? That would be even weirder unless she was madly in love with Max.

@@Mopark25 also if she was lying then why did she apologize to him in private? She said she was “just too scared to go out into the field” as her reason for lying and that she didn’t mean for them to blame him

The marriage thing... I forget what episode it was, but Coop says 'You always try to do the right thing. That's what I love about you.' And in that instant his love was trampled and destroyed.

And the biggest question about Shady Sands: were Moldaver and Rose roommates?

@@EternalDensity I got that vibe. Honestly it's a shame they are both gone, I wish we'd gotten more with Moldaver and anything with Rose. I enjoyed Maximus but honestly I think following more of Moldaver and Rose's backstory would have been more interesting than much of his journey was this season.

Listen to interviews with him about his performance. He says "I am the only one who is feeling what the audience is feeling, and I have a responsibility to do it right." He's such a great actor

Vault 21 was on the Strip proper. It was a "games of chance to settle disputes" experiment. Worked really well until Rob House (guy at the conference from RobCo with the slick hair and the 'stache) won it in a game of poker and kicked the inhabitants ~20 years before the show's setting. Yes, that means there's a non-zero chance he's still alive. Which would make him a possible Hank target too.

Same! None of my friends are listening to me when I tell them to watch lol. And they are game fans. Internet friends for life lol

I swear I read an article a little while back that stitched together clues from multiple games that proved it was Vault-Tec, but I may have dreamt it.

I watched one too so you're not insane ​@@adamcarlson2192

I don't think Vault-Tec dropped the bombs. They were planning on it, they just got beaten to the punch. This is proven in New Vegas when Mr. House says his calculations as to when the bombs would fall were "20 minutes off".

Actually they didn't start it but they planned to if they had to, the mother would not have let her daughter be out the day if it was a planned thing, as well most of the vaults were underfilled as it was a surprise to even vault-tec. The show just wanted us to know vault-tec wanted the war and if need be they would start it. Tim Cain the original creator of fallout has said all along China fired the first shot. They even say on show peace talks are breaking down.

Yup. The show is very much setting you up to believe Cooper must have done something terrible for his wife to leave him. Turns out, the "terrible" thing was being a non-genocidal human being

And when the other dads ask him to do the 'thumbs up' gesture. You totally get why he feels the way he does about being asked.

His voice in a super mutant body would be perfection haha

@@Steve302 peak Fallout

@@Steve302 Just about the perfect level of “clever” already too!

We've seen Fawkes and Strong's personalities, so I'd love to see Thaddeus's personality in a super mutant body

If he and Maximus duke it out and then fight together, it will be kinda echoing Marcus and knight Jacobs(?) from FO2. They founded a town it was great.

Can you explain to me what a Lore is please?

Also remember what The Ghoul said, "there's always someone behind the wheel"

Yeah, and while it is easy to get caught off-guard and carried away with the idea of Vault-tec dropping the bomb, it needs to be remembered that they are essentially in a pitch meeting where they are trying to get the other major corps to, in effect, invest by taking some vaults off their hands. How much of that plan was *the* plan and how much of it was a contingency to ensure a return on investment is unknown, but clearly things did not go according to plan. We know from Mr. House that the bombs fell at least a day earlier than he expected (20 hours from getting the chip he needed for the Vegas defenses, but I don't think he's a "leave my plan to the last minute kind of guy" so it could have been several days earlier than planned.) Perhaps Vault-tec's plans were intercepted by Chinese spies (and given how closely Vault-tec is related to American military defense, they figured it was an American war plan) and China decided to preemptively strike, catching the Vault-tec execs with their pants down.

Exaxtly just like how we only have one half of the story with the ghoul taking his daughter on the horse to somehow him surviving as a ghoul and his family being alive in whatever form they are, we dont actually know what happened , could literally just be one dumbo spilling coffee or one a hole bur whatever it is , i have faith in whoevers in charge of the lore right now even if i have some big issues lmao like the ghoul vial requirment and the contuing of making it a post apockalypse rather than a post -post apckalypse like the west coast games but we will get more factions and settlements next season so maybe they ar ejsut being safe

Yea I believe China beat them to it by a day or two...

I’m think I remember some past lore from Fallout 2 maybe, computer logs or the like(?) that the Enclave was similarly ready to start things themselves but the war started on its own before they fully expected. Not at all surprising that Vault Tec would have the same idea considering what we already knew about them, but maybe they were even working together. Enclave listening in to the meeting from the shadows? Enclave/VaultTec Tec cooperation would certainly give a solid answer to where Hank got access to a bomb for Shady Sands.

@@RocketSurgn_ There is that blink and you'll miss it news broadcast in episode 1 that mentions the president isn't at some meeting he was supposed to attend and that his staff wouldn't comment on it. So the higher ups in the government were at least aware the bombs were going off on that day. Whether that means they launched first or were just scrambling to get to shelter is still up in the air.

Their reactions to the big reveals in the episode did not disappoint.

Giggity?

I don't think vault tech actually dropped the first bomb I think they were just willing to if needed.

​@Greenhawk4 It's possible. It would be like "The Sum of All Fears" 2 superpowers on the virge of war and a secret 3rd party nukes a city to set the other 2 off against each other

@@kylethompson3008 but like clearly vault tech was caught off guard by the bombs dropping. Why would cooper’s wife let cooper take their daughter out with him and not have her with her where she could bring her to safety.

@@Greenhawk4yea i dont think they actually dropped it themselves but they manipulated the situation to push both sides to drop nukes.

I don't know if Barb really had any say about dropping the bomb. She might just be repeating the words of her boss?

Yea I feel like the countryside is just littered with unfired atomics

@@hadoken95 You find those nukes in silos all across Fallout 3 and New Vegas too. Half of US arsenal were never launched it seems...

@@Crusty_Old_Wastelander yup! :) In the "Lonesome Road" DLC for New Vegas, it explicitly states and shows the US got caught with it's pants down (warheads everywhere as the ICBMs never fired) And the US bombers, crew etc like at the 2 airfields around Vegas, got hit by Neutron bombs or near misses etc And in FO4, you learn the US Government "Higher Ups" refused to believe PAM and others that the Chinese had Stealth tech vehicles, even though the US had captured Chinese "Crimson Dragoon" stealth commandos at the Hoover Dam, which is where the Stealth Boy tech came from, reverse engineering Chinese tech That by the way mirrors the real life racist stupidity of America in WW2, where the US Top Brass refused to believe the Japanese aircraft and pilots were that good (the Japanese did have the best carrier pilots in the world, but were so elite Japan could never ever come remotely close to replacing losses, and so the Imperial carriers effectiveness got much worse where as US improved over time) Or that the Japanese had both very good skill at night naval battles, and incredibly powerful torpedoes on their ships, the Long Lance. Long Lance used oxygen powered so no bubbles to spot, extreme range and biggest warhead on a torpedo by far, which had devastating consequences when the US fleets tangled with the Japanese. But the oxygen system meant a hit on a Japanese ship carrying them caused catastrophic explosions

@@hadoken95 Yup, and some of them are in mint condition too, just waiting to be used. In one of the DLCs for New Vegas, the main "antagonist" has nukes ready to launch because he believes in wiping the slate clean by destroying the people who emulate Old World values they don't understand. In fact, one of the possible endings is you pick the targets and launch the nukes yourself

Dude! This, so much this! I said something similar in my comment. Like if this were a Fallout game, this would only be the first act of it!

@@Dominus62680 Seriously! I watched this thinking JAVGS, but DWAM! It was like watching a playout!

@@Dominus62680running 3 campaigns at once. One lawful, one neutral, one chaotic.

@@TimeCircleBlue OMFG YES! 🤘💯🔥

Well, it's not like the Brotherhood wouldn't if they could.

@@leeneufeld4140 THIS chapter clearly would. By their colors, Id half wager theyre a reformed Shi chapter

It's always been a suspected thing that Vault Tec may have done it themselves for their own experiments, though whether they actually did it is another question, the show doesn't state they actually did it, just that they could. Barbs daughter being outside during the nukes means it wasn't them at the very least, or something happened and Barb wasn't in control at that point, questions for season 2.

@@leeneufeld4140 As a certain entrepreneur and tech genius once said, for an order that wants to "find and preserve" old world technology, it's very curious how they only seem interested in "finding and preserving" military technology and weaponry. You don't see them scrounging for medical technology now do ya?

@@leeneufeld4140 Agreed. Vault Tech needs to fall and is easily the biggest threat to the wasteland, but the Brotherhood with Cold Fusion is nearly as great a threat.

It's less important these projects be given to existing fans of the properties than to give it to creatives that will respect said properties. The best Star Trek film was made by a director that knew absolutely nothing about Trek prior to getting the job, but upon getting the project he set to watching every existing episode and combing through existing lore and material to find the story he wanted to tell that would also be deeply rooted in the franchises existing history.

With Todd Howard riding shotgun

@@troikas3353 Same with Andor, Gilroy did some script rescue on Rogue one but had never been into Star WArs and claimed he was only going to skirt over main lore. Seems like he did OK. On the plus side Uwe Boll has quit movie making and gone into restaurants, so the low bar is now a set value.

Hey, person of interest! Recently started rewatching that.

"The question is: Do you still want the same thing, when you become a different animal alltogether"

@@090giver090 Best line of the show imo. It encapsulates so well all of the Fallout games ( except I guess NV ). You are a vault dweller, then you are confronted to the surface world, and you then have to change. Make choices. And at the end of the road you rarely are who you began the adventure as...

@@gerardlacroix6015 FO2 you are a tribal, but you are decended from the vault dweller in FO1

@@andrewdemarco3512 Also in F2 you definitely want the same thing at the end as at the beginning, just on the bigger scale.

@@gerardlacroix6015 It also somewhat encapsulates the NV. You star as a meager courier wanting only a petty revenge (to blow out the brains of whomever wanted to blow out yours) and end up being a vey (if not the most) important person in the region, burdened with deciding the fate of tens if not hundreds of thousands people. It kinda missed the point of Fallout 2 (see previous comment)

That's the thing though. Hank MacLean was, on the whole, a relatively decent father. He was just a REALLY bad husband.

@@joshorton9061 he seems to actually love Lucy

​@@joshorton9061A decent father. An awful human being.

He was a fantastic father. Look how he raised Lucy and Norm. Great kids. He raised her too well that she wouldn’t side with him! Lmao It’s really interesting to see how crazy evil he is besides that!

@@joshorton9061that’s actually super true, I feel like that is so rare in media

My only worry is how they’ll top this finale

Poor Bud. No one can remember his name 😂

For some reason people just assume Maximus did it and cant let it go, which i find weird since me and my gf both at the same time went Dane did it in the first episode, gf said it seemed like a classic red herring point at to possibilities and don't mention the third, while I thought it was the trope of a soldier shooting themself in the foot to avoid battle.

Just an fyi, Dane is a female.

@@leeneufeld4140 non-binary actually

@@ginganinjav5220 I didn't want to get too deep into it, but yes, even the cleric referred to Dane as "them".

@@leeneufeld4140Then why did you specifically post “fyi Dane is fEMaLe!!” 🙄

Does that make Moldaver Glinda or the Wicked Witch of the West?

They said that on Reel Rejects iirc

@@Contradae Oh yeah, I'm sure I heard it somewhere on the internet, and haven't been able to unsee it since. It just keeps getting better the more you think about it.

@@dominicbounds8768 ...Both?

@@Grandtheatrix it was a good analogy!

I wish in future seasons, Lucy receive all the help she needs due to the good karma she accumulated.

Not the Vault-tec logo.

Rebel Without a Cause is one too.

I mean, do you really think Vault-Tec would let a detail as inconsequential as a child get in the way of their big day? Barb made the classic mistake that all collaborators make, which was to assume that loyalty would render her and hers safe from Vault-Tec's cold brutality

@@samuelbrown3405 Consider ing Robert House was only 24 hours from his scheme going live and Sinclair was caught out as well, either some of the Vault Tec factions tried a power move or one of the national groups saw military moves going on and put in a pre-emptive strike. There are too many powerful people in lore who were almost but not quite ready, so it suggests Murphy got a vote as well. and when it comes to Lore, Murphy always wins.

@@samuelbrown3405 i think the mom absolutely would if she was willing to suggest dropping 1st, and its not like the vault tech making plans to drop 1st were not already one of the possible people who started it,

@@voiceofraisin3778 Too many were caught off guard for it to be so cut and dry. It could've been the very head of Vault Tec who decided to do it alone, it could've been China finally backed into a corner or it could be the Zetans being dickheads. The show doesn't actually state who dropped the actual bombs, maybe season 2 will dive into it more.

I want to know did Deacon really won some robot reset code in card game?

Yup. He's 270 years old, must be over level 50. That right there was basically a bunch of well armored but low levels fighting a legend of the wasteland. They never stood a chance.

He also came with the ammo for it. In Philly he was using the explosive stuff, not good for penetration which is what the weakness of the armor required, here he brought the good stuff because he knew the BOS were going to be here

@@chazo1367 *this* so many people seem to have missed this, and I've seen countless comments claiming it creates a plot hole with the fight in Filly. It's so clear that this is AP ammo vs the rounded, flesh shredding (don't think it was *explosve* exactly) ammo used in Filly. Also why it left a gnarly scar on Hanks cheek instead of ripping his head apart like the Filly ammo would have done

​@@unholyxeras8182I shit you not, I saw someone literally say "he was using the same ammo, even though it was a different shape and color" to try to justify calling it a plot hole 🤦 Some people just want to be haters

@@unholyxeras8182 Yeah, The Ghoul clearly wasn't expecting to fight Power Armor during Philly and even he is like "You gotta be shitting me." So he was caught off guard by Maximus' appearance there, once he realises he is too new at it, he takes the piss out of him, he just didn't expect Lucy to actually take the doctor away whilst he fooled around.