Prime Penny Hardaway Was Right There with Michael Jordan

Prime Penny Hardaway Was Right There with Michael Jordan - Tim Hardaway Sr.

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2 ай бұрын

Prime Penny Hardaway was as good as just about anybody in the league. Tim Hardaway - who faced off against him in the 1997 First Round - recalls the nightmares that Penny gave the Heat.
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@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

Penny Hardaway the coolest cat to ever play the game. 90's Swag. Step Back never duplicated.

@user-cr5ts5fl6t Ай бұрын

Iverson has entered the chat

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

@@user-cr5ts5fl6t Iverson right there but Penny for me. He was the first and he had the step back no one else can do. Lil Penny and those Magic Jerseys.

@goldray73 Ай бұрын

Penny was next up after Jordan and before Kobe. He was super nasty!!! If he didn't get injured.

@H1MXavier Ай бұрын

Thank you OG. Been saying this for years

@james7ch 2 ай бұрын

1 cent forever! Glad I can say I saw him in person at the old Capital Centre in Maryland 🏀

@jamesmorris8192 2 ай бұрын

Mike wore the man shoes.

@onlyfacts3178 2 ай бұрын

because someone stole his shoes that game

@jordanflores5687 Ай бұрын

That can't be a serious argument

@versatillion15 Ай бұрын

Cuz they were nice looking shoes Mike was still way better

@user-cr5ts5fl6t Ай бұрын

Pause

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

@@versatillion15 Mike was a scorer and defender. Penny was more Magic on roids cause he could score. Here's the thing we never got to see Penny have a prime. Who knows what else he could of evolved into. He didn't average as much as Jordan but he could drop 30/40 when needed. Same can be said for Grant Hill, Rose, Tmac etc. On NBA Inside Open Court on TNT They did the 90's episode and Grant Hill was on it and the other former players on the panel said you were better than Scottie Pippen and Grant you could tell appreciated but said himself "Scottie got 6 rings I don't"

@deltadefconii4459 2 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY ☝🏾 THE ONLY COMPATIBLE & BEAT MJ .. MJ WORE PENNY SHOES ONLY TIME HE EVER DONE SO TO COMMEMORATE PENNY 🗣🐐

@mstringer10 2 ай бұрын

Wait what year did Penny avg 28ppg 7rebs 6ast?? People just say anything, Penny was really good and on his way to being great but the injuries happen but he was never "Right there" with MJ. Oh and that was rookie MJ numbers

@onlyfacts3178 2 ай бұрын

PENNY was only compared to JORDAN on MARKETING..and thats why SHAQ LEFT...he was getting a lot of credit for a 20 PPG player.

@willdavis6502 Ай бұрын

Different era game was different

@oledefense1033 Ай бұрын

It wasn’t the stats, it was the skill set and the ability. Penny used to bust MJ, Pip and the rest of the league asses!

@mstringer10 Ай бұрын

21 games against each other Mj 28ppg 6rebs 5ast 2.3stls 1blk Penny 21ppg 4rebs 5ast 1.6Stls 0.4 blks Yeah turns out I was wrong. Penny was definitely bussin MJ's Ass... My fault I stand corrected

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

@@mstringer10 Former Bulls teammate of Jordan said this. "I vividly remember Michael being so frustrated that he couldn't stop him" - Michael Jordan's teammate noticed his difficulty guarding Penny. Koncak said it was the first time he saw Jordan had a difficult time guarding anyone. And that's the truth. I'm a Jordan fan and Penny. I just love 90's NBA. Knicks fan of course and love Ewing and Starks but Penny did give Jordan and Pip problems in the short time they all went at each other but we just fans talking. In reality Jordan had a lot of respect for Penny and even pranked him at the all star game pulling down his warm up pants.

@TaylorMade1of1 Ай бұрын

The real ones know Penny was thee guy 🫡✅

@erablaktv 2 ай бұрын

Maybe in eye test Never in numbers or stats The thing about Jordan is the production and numbers with the excitement This makes mj special and alone

@Tone22845 Ай бұрын

That's because they played 2 different positions. Penny couldn't just jack up shots because he had to distribute the ball as a PG. Tim is strictly talking about Penny's skillset

@erablaktv Ай бұрын

@@Tone22845 what about when penny had the team all to himself in that first year without Shaq 🤔 he could jack up all the shots he wanted.he didn't even average 25ppg.my point is penny is way to over hyped and overrated.he was indeed a top talent,very skilled and true excitement playing basketball 🏀.he was however nowhere near Kobe or Jordan and was not on his way to all time greatness before the injury on the levels of those particular goats 🐐 like former players portray him to be.

@Tone22845 Ай бұрын

@@erablaktv like i said he was the PG. Back then you didn't have PG's jacking up shots like they started doing in 2000's. And that's the season when he had that 1st knee injury

@blackestknightx8881 Ай бұрын

@@erablaktvpenny was gonna be better than kobe

@erablaktv Ай бұрын

@@blackestknightx8881 there was no evidence 🧾 of that at all

@islander5858 Ай бұрын

Young penny is the only one to send prime mike home in the 90s. FACTS

@blackestknightx8881 Ай бұрын

Lol so disingenuous. Mike didn't really play that season. Don't forget that part. You guys are so deceptive

@crush_4103 Ай бұрын

@@blackestknightx8881it happened! If it was the other way around then y’all would be praising Mj and including that in his greatest achievements

@blackestknightx8881 Ай бұрын

@@crush_4103 dude stop saying nonsense. You c-l-o-w-n-s love to leave out context. When you put that situation in context Mike only played 17 games that yr. The next year the bulls swept them after Mike played the whole year. That's context

@islander5858 Ай бұрын

@@blackestknightx8881 i love mike just like every body else. But some of you mike stans/ freaks are just the worst. I'm sure if mike would have won the chip that year he came back it would have counted as well and everybody would be praising him. But because he got SENT HOME my comment is deceptive. Dude came back and got beat, point blank period

@islander5858 Ай бұрын

@@crush_4103 you want context.. mike hit a game winner in his third game vs the hawks. Then scored 55 vs the Knicks. That 17 game played bullshit excuse is for people like you that believe mike is untouchable. Well he got touched up by penny and the magic 😂

@JB-vc5re 2 ай бұрын

Penny was Him! MJ was Black Jesus!!!

@dwightwhite9184 Ай бұрын

Yep he had it all, injuries took it

@brucewayne7831 2 ай бұрын

People have no idea how good Penny was. A little bit of Magic Johnson + young Kobe Bryant. Athletic, entertaining, dropping no look dimes but could posterize big men too. Plus the media was behind him with those Lil Penny commercials. He was not right up there with MJ because MJ was an absolute master at that time but Penny could easily ...EASILY become the face of the league.

@Wyndamn Ай бұрын

Didn't Penny and Shaq beat Chicago in the second round of the playoffs, beating Chicago at home ???

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

Never compare Kobe to Penny Kobe doesn’t compare Penny IQ was much higher and his game was more fluid and poetic to watch

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

Here you go talking like Jordan couldn’t pass Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time not the greatest scorer and defender basketball player! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8-EgruG0tnIn4E.htmlsi=ws92BcBB5nN0GN-E

@bryanchrisjoseph5526 2 ай бұрын

Penny was that dude! Real deal. Injuries derailed good career. Would he have been HOF? Yes. Top 5 PG? Yes. MJ level, respectfully no. Got swept in Finals with Shaq ... Then actually lost to MJ Bulls ... Last but not least ... THERE ARE 2 SIDES OF THE GAME! offense & DEFENSE!

@plainman9887 Ай бұрын

Beat MJ in the 95 semi finals. You left out that part.

@bryanchrisjoseph5526 Ай бұрын

@@plainman9887 😅😅😅 damn u right lol

@onlyfacts3178 2 ай бұрын

MEDIA: PENNY is a scorer who can pass: 20 PPG / 7 ASS on his prime MEDIA: STOCKTON was just a passer ; 17 PPG / 14 ASS on his prime.

@williamwalsh1533 Ай бұрын

Stockton, come on man. His career average is what 13 ppg. Magic & Isiah, his contemporaries averaged 19 for their careers. Could Stockton have scored more but he was the third option on most of his teams.

@bryanttisdale2446 Ай бұрын

@williamwalsh1533 your not accounting for the offensive system and scheme plus personal. Stockton always had the ball practically. They really didn't have another person to start the offense most yrs. The magic had Brain shaw and Penny shot well enough to slide to the shooting Guard.

@JayPleezer304 2 ай бұрын

love the og tim, but hell no...stop it...smh

@Boss3Nate 2 ай бұрын

exactly... hahahaha. Bro went completely overboard

@Scood84fromChicago 2 ай бұрын

I’m from Chicago Mike is the goat but Penny was crazy he could do it all

@MrOctober44 Ай бұрын

Penny is one of the great what ifs.

@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 2 ай бұрын

Nobody on Michael Jordan level

@nate8604 2 ай бұрын

Bill Russell told that man he wouldn’t be alive long enough to catch him in titles. That’s a different kind of brag, so that’s 🧢.

@chrisrobinson8339 2 ай бұрын

@@nate8604bill wasn't on MJ level.

@s4mp_founder Ай бұрын

Iverson was better than Jordan

@NevaSellmySoul Ай бұрын

Ai was garbage @@s4mp_founder

@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310 Ай бұрын

Even with the injuries, I have Penny Hardaway ranked as the 3rd greatest combo guard of all time in the NBA right behind Stephen Curry and Allen Iverson.

@cameronfry Ай бұрын

What he meant to say was he was on his way…but ultimately didn’t get there.

@islander5858 Ай бұрын

Exacly

@Melo.S_NY Ай бұрын

Penny my fav player all time. Injuries destroyed his career 🥲

@techwood16 Ай бұрын

Tim Hardaway was so cold I’m fina pick him on blacktop when I get to the house 😂

@ItsBenRoyboy 2 ай бұрын

Tim is tripping That's all

@adofominka8767 Ай бұрын

Tim Hardaway been smoking that good dope.

@ZMSportsnShorts 2 ай бұрын

Put the cracks down Timmy

@mikee3261 2 ай бұрын

Michael isn’t god lol

@Wyndamn 2 ай бұрын

@@mikee3261 most casual fans don't seem to realize that 😅😅😅

@Cluez31 Ай бұрын

Theres a lot of us who really thought Penny was the next MJ circa 94-96

@da_illest Ай бұрын

When Jordan went on his revenge tour, Penny was as helpless as anyone else. Imagine Jordan and Pippen beating Jordan and Shaq

@sat0sh139 2 ай бұрын

Penny, Grant Hill, Tmac, Vince... Most fun to watch!

@MelodicAssymetry445 2 ай бұрын

I would add Kobe, Wade, and Iverson to that but your list is still good

@sat0sh139 Ай бұрын

@@MelodicAssymetry445 those are great ones too👍

@lennycoco Ай бұрын

Penny gave Jordan n Scottie bucket’s consistently

@millardthomas9059 2 ай бұрын

Right. PRIME was 2 years? And even that was like 21/7/7 as a #2 option.

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

Penny never had a prime. He came in young and going. Prime years for most pros are 27/28 years old to about 32. Sadly fell just prior

@Jallenpoe Ай бұрын

This is not the first time ive heard this but this is Tim saying had Penny remained healthy, Penny potential wouldve been of Jordans

@williamwalsh1533 Ай бұрын

Definitely an impact player but he not averaging 30 a season.

@TirantWhite Ай бұрын

Penny was on the same level as #8 Kobe. There, i fixed it.

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

Of Penny didn’t get injured he probably be the greatest to ever do it and I’m big in Jordan but Penny was the real deal. Kobe & Lebron wasn’t Penny Hardaway There was a poetic genius to the way he played the game

@stevefrank9444 Ай бұрын

PENNY WAS NICE!!!#FLOWERS

@lcasanova2546 2 ай бұрын

PENNY WAS TOO NICE NOT A KILLER AND BODY WASNT DURABLE PASS FIRST GUY BUT COULD SCORE IF HE TURNED IT ON AND ATTACKED😊

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

not a Killer? He dunked on Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson (post injury) Malone, Mutumbo , etc. Only big he never dunked on was Shaq. Maybe in practice haha. Took Jordan 1 v 1 (We all know Jordan the better) just saying. He attacked the rim a lot.

@lcasanova2546 Ай бұрын

@@dannynhl9441 he had moments

@Hendrix.Robinson 2 ай бұрын

I just came to tap in to say, he wasn’t

@GodsSoldier376 2 ай бұрын

Yup

@Goldmindmusic 2 ай бұрын

🧢

@kashparty3034 2 ай бұрын

Me too 😂

@samuelcolson8791 2 ай бұрын

He was though believe it

@MrWoo-jc8nt 2 ай бұрын

Yes he was

@Sldumas1983 Ай бұрын

Penny used to make MJ work a bit but I’d compare Penny more to Kobe

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

Penny can pass much better than Kobe. But we never got to see Penny have a real prime also.

@Sldumas1983 Ай бұрын

@@dannynhl9441 True but we was also robbed of Kobe’s first 2 yrs because they didn’t play players his age at that time

@dannynhl9441 Ай бұрын

@@Sldumas1983 Good point too. Grant Hill is another one. Tmac too.

@Sldumas1983 Ай бұрын

@@dannynhl9441 Facts

@jeffreyjiminian4301 Ай бұрын

POPS WAS WITH THE ISH

@Wyndamn 2 ай бұрын

Tim Hardaway played against both but people are still trying to argue against him and nobody in this comment section played in the NBA ( including me😅😅😅) Y'all are delusional and delirious. I'll take the person that actually played in the NBA'S opinion first and foremost.

@PhoenixRising82672 Ай бұрын

Stop it The MJ disrespect needs to stop

@PhoenixRising82672 Ай бұрын

His best year was 21 7 4

@Ghostfacekillah718 Ай бұрын

You had to be there

@PhoenixRising82672 Ай бұрын

@@Ghostfacekillah718 I was there and he wasn't on MJ's level Stop disrespecting MJ with these ridiculous takes

@augustusx82 Ай бұрын

We know Penny was not as good as Michael Jordan, just like we know TMAC wasn’t as good as Kobe, but there was a time when TMAC was in Orlando, and if you said he was better than Kobe half of the room would agree with you, in the same way back in 1995 people were like penny is going to be better than Michael Jordan, And a lot of people would agree with you, it wasn’t a crazy thing to say that out loud. just by the eye test he was just better than everybody else and would make people look stupid on the court… plus he was highly marketable with 10,000 different commercials back in an era where all kids did all day was watch TV.. plus he was the number one selling jersey in the league

@s4mp_founder Ай бұрын

KD was better than Kobe

@augustusx82 Ай бұрын

@@s4mp_founder You know what the argument can be made for sure. Kevin Durant is my guy, used to play ball with him and I know his father, so I should be biased in this argument seeing that he and I are from the same place and we take pride and what we do which is destroy people in the basketball court, however, the best version of Kevin Durant was the second championship of Golden State, he was at the peak of his powers, you have to put that version of 06 Kobe…AKA 81 points kobe…

@toolegit7668 2 ай бұрын

He wasn't up there with Mike, but he was right there with Kobe, arguably was better than Kobe was at the time

@Hendrix.Robinson 2 ай бұрын

Bro, respectfully he wasn’t even in the same realm as DWade 🤷🏾‍♂️

@MrWoo-jc8nt 2 ай бұрын

You trippin @@Hendrix.Robinson

@Heemkeem_9 2 ай бұрын

Rookie Kobe ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣😳 he better had been better than an 18 and 19 year old

@Heemkeem_9 2 ай бұрын

@@MrWoo-jc8ntnah you’re tripping lmaoo penny has became extremely overrated… he had potential to get to that elite level but body started to break down

@MrWoo-jc8nt 2 ай бұрын

I'll take prime Penny over D Wade 8 days a week @Heemkeem_9

@johnnymcfaddenii776 Ай бұрын

penny is a bad mfer but don’t what if what happened is what happened that’s all to it

@StevenEvens7125 2 ай бұрын

Prime Grant Hill was also right there with MJ.

@sidvicious647 Ай бұрын

Uhhhh NO.

@jordanflores5687 Ай бұрын

Y'all are delusional we never got to see prime grant hill same with penny they got hurt before they reached it

@lamontewilliams203 Ай бұрын

@StevenEvans7125. Bro. No one was near MJ.

@StevenEvens7125 Ай бұрын

@lamontewilliams203 accomplishments no. Ability? A few. Grant and Penny come to mind first. You will never convince me that a prime non injured Grant or non injured Penny wouldn't have kept given Jordan buckets the way he gave them. I done seen Penny spin baseline on Jordan and dunk on Pip. And just run the tape back on what Grant did to both of'em. Both as YOUNG players they was giving MJ nasty work.

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

No he wasn’t 😂

@Heemkeem_9 2 ай бұрын

Wasn’t even on the same level as Shaq

@BattleTruth 2 ай бұрын

Both the hardaways played for Florida teams

@naswiipp Ай бұрын

With that mustache and this take I've come to the conclusion that Tim Hardaway smokes crack.

@willdavis6502 Ай бұрын

He was

@PhoenixRising82672 Ай бұрын

No he wasn't

@jordanflores5687 Ай бұрын

I'm just here to say no tf he wasn't and we never got to see prime penny he got hurt before he reached it maybe eventually but we'll never know

@deelak2329 Ай бұрын

Prime Joel Pryzbilla too

@MrBarmore90222 2 ай бұрын

Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

@Boss3Nate 2 ай бұрын

Stop it

@jacquesthompson2946 Ай бұрын

He was good, very good. Smooth and smart. But he ain't MJ

@DangleFront Ай бұрын

OK, Tim , what’s with the dirty Sanchez mustache? It’s been years already.

@s4mp_founder Ай бұрын

As a Penny Hardaway fan. No, he wasn’t. More like Scottie with an upgrade. Still s/o to Penny.

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

Pippen was no where near Penny level stop he was good but he is way overrated today

@d.michael372 Ай бұрын

Nope. If there was anyone on same level as his airness it was Kobe, and he wasn’t either. He came close but Jordan is just portals away from all.

@Barak144 Ай бұрын

Kobe is such overrated 🚮

@d.michael372 Ай бұрын

@@Barak144 in todays world ppl make cases for Mj being overrated so that’s not surprising

@1Eashawty Ай бұрын

Penny was nice but he was nowhere close to Jordan, he wasnt even on grant hill level as a player

@lastshallbefirst5516 Ай бұрын

What?… he was better than Grant Hill, stop it. He wasn’t Jordan but he damn sure was equal or better than Hill. If you wanna say equal, that’s fine. Name 2 things that Grant Hill did better… I’ll wait

@1Eashawty Ай бұрын

@@lastshallbefirst5516 better scorer about equal as passers. Penny only had 3-4 years

@lastshallbefirst5516 Ай бұрын

@@1Eashawty equal as passers? Lol, no. Penny had true point guard vision. We’re talking about their prime, not the entire career. Scoring, Penny had Shaq, the most dominant Big in history, Grant Hill was the main option on his team. Penny’s offensive package was just as lethal as Hill’s was, and he was better at the 3 pointer than Hill.

@1Eashawty Ай бұрын

@@lastshallbefirst5516 grant hill averaged more assists in his best season than penny did in his & penny scored more with shaq than without

@lastshallbefirst5516 Ай бұрын

@@1Eashawty And? Grant Hill had the ball in his hand like LeBron does, and James Harden used to. Penny was a better passer, plain and simple. And after Shaq, Penny’s injuries started to come. So your stat argument is missing context behind it. Sorry, stats are numbers.. they’re not the actual visual of the game being played.

@mhfj3901 Ай бұрын

Same level as MJ🐐? GTFOH 😂 Penny & Grant Hill were both a tier BELOW Mike. 💯

@nukeboy4939 Ай бұрын

No he wasn't. 😂

@thefreakyrobber0 Ай бұрын

Lmao, Tmac was good but not great on MJ level. Stop tryna rewrite History 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

@eamorrison859 Ай бұрын

What do you mean he was right there. Penny cooked MJ and my man Pippen when they went gainst one another. Hell Clyde had his number also. People have to stop with this narrative that MJ didn't get cooked.

@Nemo-un5rr 2 ай бұрын

Penny wasn’t on Jordan’s level.

@MackP414 Ай бұрын

He was highly respected and regarded among his peers and the fans. Behind Jordan he was the 2nd most popular player from 95-97. His shoes did well and his commercials were legendary.

@t.bone26 Ай бұрын

Shidd if he wasn’t stopped by injuries he would’ve been

@charlesdouglas7179 Ай бұрын

He was on his way until injuries

@youngblood4127 Ай бұрын

He was on his way to be. Penny was a top player in 96-98. Jordan Malone Hill Shaq Penny

@Bruhda1 20 күн бұрын

Your crazy Penny was just as cold as MJ you see those highlights he was a better all around player than Mj honestly no cap.