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A remake is a total rebuild, where every asset is remade to fit the expectations of todays game industry. A remaster is more of a texture pack with higher fps.

I love the save system as is. Really adds to the tension of the gameplay and it's a great feeling once you finally get to the next save station after a difficult stretch.

I don't think they could have done a better job with the remaster. I'm glad I held off replaying until it came out.

Remaster looks incredible! I started playing it the other day and when I got to the overworld I got the same feeling that I got playing it on GameCube way back in the day, with the rain falling on your visor and all the lighting effects, just, wow still to this day it blows me away.

WOW I am really surprised at how much care went into the remaster's graphical updates. The lighting and texture upgrades makes a WAY bigger difference than I was expecting. I already was playing with Primehack on the deck, but I might seriously have to spring for the remaster now.

Remastered looks better than the old version even on prime hack. Really great remaster I don’t think the original prime had any “weird” design decisions. It had to be designed for the controller the game cube had

That's the content I am looking forward. I personally play the Gamecube version emulated on my PC, without any hacks or improvements, even adding in some CRT filters to mimic the look and feel of old days. Even that game totally holds up today. But man, all those improvements looking good too.

OK, so two reasons to play PrimeHack are the following: 1) Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, and 2) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. Difference between a remake and a remaster: A remaster takes the same game engine, puzzles, gameplay elements, physics engines, etc., and improves upon them. This usually results in slightly or dramatically better visuals, annoying gameplay elements are simplified to something more intuitive or modern, the good parts of the game are amplified. A remake is taking the idea and doing something "based off of" the original. It can be a completely different engine, include radically different plot points (but some similarity to the original), and sometimes even span a genre. A remaster takes the original and says, "What if we made this exact same game again, but with modern hardware and a few more months of development time to make it as fun as possible?" A remake is like what Hollywood is doing to all the great movies that were actually meaningful and written by people who had been through some genuine adversity in their lives.

im surprised at how good the remaster is. really stellar work.

A remake would be a complete re build of the game from the ground up, it may hold Faithfull to the original or not. A remaster has the original game code underneath and improves game assets, that be textures, lighting and or modeling as well as optional changes to the game like QoL improvements

This is a remaster as much as the Halo ones are: Yes, there's a new skin on top, but the game wasn't "remade" from the ground up. Remaster tends to cover a range of things, but its distinguished from a Remake by fact that its not "reimagined," and I don't mean FF7 Remake which is its own thing. Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes is a remake. Demons Souls on PS5 is a remake. This is a remaster.

Running it in docked mode in Yuzu fixes the frame rate issue and runs great!

It is well known that metroid remastered on yuzu with Steam deck just works on 60fps activating the Docked Mode. However using handheld Mode the Game just get 30/35 fps... You have mentioned Power Tools, if you choose handheld Mode and hoy reduce the cores working , do you Fix the lack of fps on hanheld Mode ? Or What did you want to say referring to the usage of the power tool Decky plugging benefits? Thank you a lot for your videos

I am glad that the remaster came out because of being able to use a normal controller with Metroid Prime 3 since that was the only game in the trilogy that had only Wii remote controls while the 1st 2 games were released on GameCube and Nintendo revamped those games for the Wii. On top of having better controller support for the remastered version. In some cases a remaster can go hand and hand with a remake because you are updating the game in such a way for modern hardware however a remake can differ because it is built from the ground up like if you are using a modern game engine like Unreal engine 5 for example.

There is more issues with the gyro on wii, its not super great even with the Motion Plus addon to the controller. It also tries to be a 1:1 movement device, while the sensor theoretically is, it doesn't lend it self to that for gaming purposes. The sensor bar helps, but doesn't solve the issue.

A remaster is an uprezed version of the same game, with better graphics and textures. A remake is built from the ground up in the spirit of the original.

A remaster is basically the original with graphical updates and maybe some extra bells and whistles (could be extra modes, skins, updated controls), whereas a remake is basically a new product made taking the original as inspiration. Resident Evil is a good example: RE4 has had remasters, whereas 1 (the GameCube one), 2 and 3 have had full in remakes

Remaster = Core game code is literally preserved from previous iteration, with new improvements built or added to the code base. (i.e. Mafia 2 vs Mafia 2 Definitive Edition). Remake = Story or core gameplay is preserved, but game code is built from-the-ground-up, sometimes in an completely new engine, quantifying it as a literal new game. (i.e. RE2 vs RE2 Remake). This is why Metroid Prime Remaster, with all of it's improvements in fidelity, shaders, textures, and models; quantifies as a remaster. The core game code, gameplay, and story is still unaltered from it's original 2002 GameCube iteration. It's just been updated for the modern era.

A lot of people try to treat "remake" vs "remaster" as different degrees of the same thing, but they're not. A "remake" is when the underlying engine is completely different and everything in the game needs to be recreated from scratch. The developers of Spyro games completely lost their source code, so they had to remake the game from scratch for the Reignited trilogy. A "remaster" is when the game's engine is largely the same (or is an upgrade of the same engine) and the assets are improved. I believe it's been determined that Metroid Prime is indeed using an upgraded version of the same engine, so it would be a remaster. Normally a remake looks better than a remaster due to using a a completely new and hopefully more modern engine, but it's not set in stone. A good enough remaster can look better than a remake, assuming the engine has been sufficiently upgraded.

i have the remastered running at 60fps on the deck. there's graphical glitches and crackling audio here and there but it keeps a steady frame rate.

For yuzu tap the handheld button and make it console mode. It will run 60 with minor stutters during room transitions in my experience

I'd also argue Switch ISN'T showing its age. Metroid Prime Remastered, Zelda TotK, Pikmin 4, Fire Emblem Engage, Persoba 5 Royal, etc. Banger after banger that look and run excellent.

You want gyro always on since there's no ADS. I despise activation by thumb sensor. It messes me up so bad, gyro just stops every time I press a button

I've been trying to get primehack working on deck last night, and inputs haven't been registtering properly.

The main issue for me is the FOV. I really with we could increase it just a bit. Its very hard going from 32x9 90-100 FOV primehack to 60FOV on the remaster.

A remaster is when the original is the basis and being modified. A remake is a new game made from scratch. That's the definition

Remaster is updating models, visuals, sounds, and even maybe fixing/changing things like quests to make the game better like they did with Wind Waker HD. A remaster of an older game is usually a port to a new console which allows the devs to turn on and use more graphical/visual settings and higher poly models and higher res textures they couldn't use before due to limitations. Remake is rebuilding the game from the ground up. Usually on an updated or new game engine to allow the use of better, new tech and more optimized engine. In my opinion, this is usually done when the game engine the game is on would be more pain than it's worth to update and add too. Game engines are hard to make and sometimes its better to scrap it for one that has all the features and visuals you want so you can just focus on making the game.

For your question what the difference between Remaster and Remake is, for it's following: * Remaster: If the games original code and assets are taken and then uplifted the assets, probably port it to a newer system and change control schemes to fit the new technology. Correct performance and bug issues, maybe change the music. But ultimately it is the same game and same engine still. Often just called HD Remasters. Good examples of this are: Final Fantasy 8 Remastered and Crisis Core Final Fantasy 7 Reunion. * Remake: Game is programmed from scratch on most likely a different engine and totally new assets and designers. Almost like a re-envisioning the old game. Good examples of what that is, are to me Resident Evil 2 and Demon Souls. One game that goes very far on this idea is Final Fantasy 7 Remake. And then I have another class, that goes beyond Remasters and Remakes: * Reboots: Original game and Reboot have basically nothing in common, other than the main idea of the game. Most of the time the game is only loosely based on the original. I would put the Tomb Raider and DOOM reboots from the past few years into this category.

The remake and remaster conversation is a hole I dug myself into too many times with other people. 😆 The best answer I can give isn't a technical one because each games go at different lengths and either call it a remake or remaster. I think it's more about the devs or editor's intention. If it is to simply improve it and make the original in all intents and purposes obsolete, then it's a Remaster. If they have additions, corrections, gameplay change or anything that might not necessarily override the original with the creative liberties they take it's a Remake. Here, Metroid Prime Remastered is exactly the same game and many people have said the game looks how they remember it to be.

Best examples of a remake to me are Demons Souls and dead space, total overhaul but same game at the core

make = brand new like 2d to 3d master = old polished up. I would say no original code used for remakes but idk if that's true. zero mission is a remake because it brings new things to the table new levels and those statues that tell you were to go sadly. the new ending also. but halo is a remaster because if it was a remake i bet they could fix the controls for halo 2 dual welding to be like halo 3

Great video, like the Games with Bill-ish style videos. Hope to see it more

It's a little too early to play it on emulators yet but I'm sure we'll see some significant progress soon.

A remake is building an existing game from the ground up. Remaster would be taking a game's preexisting assets and enhancing them, replacing them with higher quality assets, and fine tuning the preexisting code

5:01 This honestly never bothered me during my playthrough of Metroid Prime Remastered... But then again, I might be biased, as I am a Splatoon fan. The gyro aiming in this game works incredibly well! Even when I play in handheld mode!

Can anyone tell me how to get past the Primehack window screen when displayed on a TV (LG C2). On the Deck itself I can start it in the Steam interface, click play at the first screen, and when it gets to the window with the file that needs to be highlighted (which can be done on the deck by touchscreen) it works. On TV the deck will not mirror and I can't find any control (PS4 controller) to highlight and then play the file. Which would than lead to the 3 games , save files etc. No matter what I click on it takes me back to the prior screen (The on with the Play button on the left side and controller and setting icons on right) The game plays fine on the deck itself. All controls work fine. I am sure if I get the game to start Thanks for any help. Since I can't find this on a Google search...It must be so simple no one had the issue or no one is using a TV.

A remaster IMO involves only changes to the looks and maybe some QOL stuff. A remake would make deeper changes to things like gameplay, story, etc. D2R is a remaster. Dead Space is a remake. Metroid Prime is a remaster. System Shock is a remake. Etc. There's obviously grey areas too. Demon's Souls is an odd duck that defies classification.

I just wanted to say that both yuzu and riujinx had graphical glitches when playing Metroid prime remastered at launch, both emulators got updates and the game now runs smoothly at 60 fps on the deck.

I like to think this way. Remastering & Remake pretty much mean the same thing, But with two key differences. Remake: Explains that the video game is completely overhauled on latest Hardware & Upgraded animations, Including new possible content that was not able to be stored... Such as Cut Content, Concept Ideas or so... Remaster: Remastering is the Systems of the core mechanics of the game offering the exact same game, With upgraded resolution & Gameplay... But directly tackles the glitches or Problems associated with the titled game mentioned or thought of. Metroid Trilogy is a good example... Even though it did not offer greater or lesser quality in the game, It Remastered it's systems to appeal to the latest hardware capabilities, It was not a Remake. Since it was released on Wii U & Wii respectfully. Metroid Prime Remastered is a whole different ballpark. Nintendo Recreated the entire story from the ground up adding new content & Offers better capabilities on the Nintendo switches Hardware. Offering better visuals and increased the end goal resolution to the maximum, But Contains the similarity of the core mechanics & Does not change the System or coding that gives the game it's purpose. It does nothing to add or change, So it does not "Remake" The game... otherwise, we would have more enemies, New content or DLC's in this considerable time... It is speculation on what others think, Because opinions may differ, But I like to share my thoughts to see what others may say in the comment section.

I think a Remake can be a reimagining, and can afford to make changes to things like the story, gameplay, etc. Whereas a Remaster is the original experience but with a face-lift, maybe with revamped gameplay as a tiny bonus.

I had this exact question when it was announced.

In short, I think of a remaster as being the same game "under the hood" just with updated visuals and I think of a remake as something remade from the ground up. However, there are cases that blur the lines all the time. 3D Classics Kirby's Adventure on 3DS was made to look and play just like the original, but was actually running native on 3DS hardware eliminating the lag of the original. So is it a remake or remaster? And calling Metroid Prime a remaster feels like a massive understatement even if I'm quite certain it was made with the original engine and source code. Hmm...

I have no switch and currently not even the remastered game itself. But I would buy the game. I want to play remastered on my pc, is that possible with yuzu, without physically owning the console ?

Prime Remastered on Yuzu doesn't run so well at the moment on Steam deck. However I'm running Ryujinx and it tends to be a steady 60FPS aside from occassional shader cache

Wow!!! A need a steam deck now! It works for prime 2 and 3?!

Autosave would break the experience.

Wasn't trilogy a Wii game? Was there an enhanced Wii U release?

Switch was not dated hardware in early 2017. It was one of the best mobile GPU in the market. In 2015, when It was presented, was quite ahead of its time.

Crazy to think Prime Remastered is only the second HD Metroid game

Prime hack is nice to have on the deck but think it shines brightest on the pc giving it full mouse support, there it really feels like a proper FPS game. As for remake Vs remaster I've always seen a remaster as a resolution upgrade, upscaled textures maybe some higher poly models but by and large the original source codes untouched whilst a remake is what it says on the tin, they re make the game from scratch only using the original game as reference material, everything is new often making tweeks to the story lines, mechanics, control scheme ect. Jak and daxter 1 2 and 3 on PS3 is a remaster because it doesn't do anything different to what I can do with a PS2 emulators resolution and frame cap settings while dead space remake recreated the original game from the ground up using nothing from the original assets and made changes like giving Isaac a voice and the thrusters in zero gravity that he didn't have until the games sequel

clearly is a remake, new engine, new textures and new models, a remastered is a port with minor changes like fps and widescreen support and originale textures upscale

to me, capacitive thumbstick defeats the point of Gyro. I like to be able to let go of the controls to push a face button (I.E. a for jump) without losing my aim.

I appreciate the comparison but the bit about save points would ruin the tension

I hope they manufacture and restock on copies of the Metroid Prime 1 Remaster eventually and soon. Because it's sold out everywhere.

The remastered version also works very well on Deck 👍

the biggest thing im worried about is not being able to use the wii pointer to aim a stuff. that made the game so much better.

Remake is built from the ground up, remaster is same game upscaled with minor improvements.

Being able to change your FOV and the fact that the Fusion Suit is nowhere to be found in the remaster makes Primehack the best way to play Prime(Plus Prime 2 and 3 are playable, but I won’t count it for this) imo.

To list it for any google searches: MP on Gamecube MP Trilogy on Wii (or Wii U) MP (GC) in Primehack MP Trilogy in Primehack MP Remastered on Switch MP Remastered (switch) Emulated with Yuzu/Ryujinx These ignore MP on Gamecube (emulated) MP Trilogy (emulated) But I want anyone who is curious to know: I successfully managed to dump my own save FROM my Wii U, and put it into Primehack, on Steam Deck and continue playing.

Personally... I consider a remaster is they took the original source code and they just clean up and redone the assets at a higher resolution to make it run at a higher framerate. A remake is from the ground up in a new engine all new assets, new source code, all new everything, but it mirrors the original game 1:1. I like to throw in a third option.... Reimagine, where everything in the original is there and then some. They add more on top of that and redone outdated things. Great examples is Resident Evil 1 Reimagine and Dead Space Reimagine.

A remake has pretty much no lineage to the original game, such as the last of us part 1(ps5), or demons souls, where the only line of code that carries over was (supposedly) the dodge timings, but that's questionable even. A remaster is essentially a PORT of the existing code but with redone or touched up visuals and/or audio. Such as the halo anniversary games, or this Metroid Prime remaster A practice in recent years I don't support is publishers calling ports to new hardware remasters when all it includes is a resolution and maybe framerate bump. While still using original assets. Such as the last of us remastered (PS4), Tomb Raider definitive edition on PS4 and Xbox one, and halo 3,reach, odst and 4 in halo MCC In my opinion this practice of calling ports remasters specifically is why there is discourse around what constitutes a remake or remaster

A remaster is when you take the original assets and enhance it of making it similar but look better. The base game is there is some models can be replaced but is still the same underlying game. With a remake you are recreating the game to mimic the original game. For example a remake would be the new gta remakes and a remaster is this Metroid game.

I love that PrimeHack exists. It held me off in absence of a modern port. But now that Remastered is here I can finally delete it from Deck and just play on my Switch OLED. Game performance tanked to 10 fps after 20 min of play anyways which was super annoying

Remaster: Only technical upgrades (engine, graphics, sounds...), so that you can play it on modern systems with big screens a.s.o.. Remake: Can overhaul more to make it a better experience, e.g. game play mechanics which are outdated a.s.o..

Isnt there some hi res textures for primehack? That could make the comparison much closer. Feels like Switch is running away with it right now.

Auto save in metroid would be really dumb. I guess auto saving needs to be in so the from games too then

Very interesting, thanks!!

So far am loving everything about Metroid Prime Remastered except for the thermal visor which I hate. Gives me a headache sometimes. Had to check out how it looked in the original and have to say it looked quite decent for dark areas. Not like the remaster does with excessive blur added onto to strain your eyes. I keep it off most of the time because its just too much!

Remaster only touches up visuals in whatever way. Remake not only changes visuals but also adds new features or events and what not.

Remaster - same core engine/build but foo-fooed with new visuals, sounds and some extras Remake - Built from the ground up Do I win a prize?

I like that unlike the Wii or Gamecube, you can suspend your game if you can't get to a save in time. So that kind of helps. Also agree with the map labels... would have been nice. Better... maybe all these areas that are scanable, auto marked on the map with the approperiate icon after the scan (breakable wall, missile upgrade, port that requires morph ball, etc...). I think "need item to advance areas and secrets are scanable anyway.

Did you guys know that Tommy Talarico made this entire game by himself while holding hands with Miyamoto proper?

I just want everyone to know the emulation does run better with powertool but steam games will suffer from performance issues & that's very BAD. So I had to factory reset my steam deck and every steam games runs much better now.

I swear KZfaq can read my mind because I was thinking of this

Switch is not that Slow on Metroid Prime I play it it’s smoother and fast too I am loving this game

Remake = rebuilt from the ground up. Remastered = Took existing game assets and code and updated them.

Or use a switch emulator on PC and play the remaster on your computer.

For your question, I'll refer to Modern Vintage Gamer. He recently made an excellent video about this game and he included why it's not a remake, even though it blurs the lines a bit. As usual, his logic is as sound as it gets.

just to be another one in a looong line of similar comments. Remaster, improve whats already there. Remake begin from scratch. for example i would not call last of us on ps5 a remake really. if it really was there would be a bigger difference..

If it uses most of the same code as the original, I consider it a remaster.

This feels like a Remastered Remake to me

Remake or Remaster? This game is kind of...neither. Not a texture pack since all assets were remade, and all models were remade too. Even has more geometry in places. But the gameplay is completely unchanged, so...its the best remaster ever?

autosave, no way, this is metroid the mather of the metroidvenia games, there are no autosave in metroid games, if we have autosave, then the save station would be pointless

MASTER - a games fidelity, design elements, controls, story arch and other aspects that make a game a memorable AAA game; f.e. Metroid Prime REMASTER - is modernizing/improving the aspects of what made the game a Master(piece), hense remaster, f.e Metroid Prime Remaster REMAKE - is not derived from "master" at all, and its rather a "reimagined" using what followed inline to what the original MASTER(piece) was. It can have a similar story arch, same names, etc. But the Examples: Resident Evil 2 (ORIGINAL) was a masterpiece for its time - (Master) Resident Evil 2 (2019) is NOT a REMASTER, but rather what it is exactly - A REMAKE, or a (reimagined) idea of the original. For Metroid Prime Remaster, its defined EXACTLY what the term is meant for. EDIT: IMPORTANTLY, the more deviation from the original masterpiece occurs the more drift will be that it falls into NOT being a remaster. This is important as mentioned in the video, if things like autosave being included in the remaster, this muddies the waters significantly from being a true remaster, as it affects the games original design concept that made it unique, and to some, more challenging with having spaced out designated save areas - a truly rare aspect that I personally wish was used more often as it means you have to chose your actions more carefully with higher consequence. The use of "REMASTER" can be used in parallel to other industries - hense its use to be understood more broadly. A remaster of a classic masterpiece like (Back to the Future), does only hinder its original quality substantially if a remake where to come out, rather, a remaster (using the combined terms above) would be appropriate. The New Ghost busters movie is a remake, not a remaster. The terms "REMAKE" and "REMASTER" are terms getting confused for some reasons: 1. the use of the terms are not in the title, and when the same name is used excluding those terms. for example, Resident Evil 2 (2019) doesn't indicate that its actually a remake (not a great word to include as it would tarnish the IP, and sales). And it leads ambiguity to the consumer in thinking it appears to be a remaster at first glance, but is not.

What the problem with root access? You keeping credit cards and nude selfies on your Steam Deck?

Autosave?! Nah…

It's really easy for example you can basically see in The last of Us you know when they said it was a a you know The last of Us part 1 right when they said that day we made it for next gen no they didn't we made it again him up change things but I don't think is actually remake because you can do exactly the same thing in GTA in most other games you basically modded the game files to make it look and want to be better I have PS all sorts you can do it on PC anyway I'm trying to say it right is The last of Us part 1 remake is not a remake it a remaster and that's what I remaster was supposed to be a romantic version was supposed to be exact and that what is what we got finally because when they first remastered it for the PS4 they classed as a remaster but it wasn't really a remaster in away you know I mean it was just an upscaled version of we got on the PS 3 write a remake is a completely alter game for example fight doom and then Doom 2016 that is a remake it's a completely altered game I care that obviously cos obviously you you could but I don't think it would actually be worth it basically making the game but still keep in the assets to look just like everything you do know so so some might have some kind of them viable options but yeah that is the way that do one to do 2016 them to comparable that is what you call a remake right those are remix other games that they tried to say he makes a remaster it's not so all what I've stated is a remaster is basically a modified version of an old game that can be upscaled 4K where's blah blah all no I mean a a remake is from the Doom 2 doom 2016 that is a remake so dead space wouldn't be BBC that's the only problem with as well because that's what you get into to different things because if doom right is basically a remake because well technically is a remake because those were to despite does a 3D sprites right then you could say the same thing as other games as in like for example dead space your last of us like yeah they might have had plums of hair strands and now they've got separate hair strands that could be classified as a remake I think it's just very attractive but we know exactly what a remake is because it's a game that's been properly done from the ground up on brand new engine brand new hardware and they're trying to keep to the same kind of detail and stuff that was in the game but obviously you have to be altered in changed because of the new hardware they trying to send it out for right and a remaster is just a is basically if I wanted to play yeah it's basically if I play games using emulation and upscale it and make some new HD textures and put in there and bum make it look like a brand new game that's the remaster

Great coverage, but omg your audio mixing is AWFUL. I got sick of regularly turning my volume up and down to compensate when the music begins to blow my eardrums between commentary. The remaster looks the best, but primehack is also fantastic on Steam Deck.

I know it's cool to support people doing things like this on their own, but the official remastered version looks way better.

I love the remaster, one of the best remasters ever… but Primehack is just too good to let go of. Sorry.

wow, that wiiu version looks terrible.

I’m the first subscriber to like your channel

How about supporting the actual release instead of pirating it, and putting it on your steam deck?

This game looks trash lmao why would anyone want to play a first person maze game

When the game dropped on the store, I was watching a Speed Runner who was watching the direct, he hadn't played Prime since the original release, and was unaware of all the things that changed between the 3 Gamecube disc versions, and anything additional changes made since it was released on Wii. It's kind of sad that Nintendo removed some features from the original released version to remove speed runner friendly options. I haven't played the game before, but look forward to the physical version later this month. I'll get to look at it with fresh eyes.

remake is a complete redo of he game changing type of gameplay mechanics etc example remake REsident evil 2 is a remake, metroid prime is a remaster because of the code bein kept as it was minor some bug fixes, same thing for demon souls or shadow of the colossus they are remasters not remakes.

A remake is a ground up recreation of a game. It would probably include some extra QoL improvements as well. It would feature a similar but updated score (Halo CE vs Anniversary) as well as updated graphics. It would include modernized controls, and an updated interface to a small extent. A remaster is a much smaller undertaking. It should try to maintain the new experience as close as possible to the original. It keeps both the bones and meat of the game while upgrading the graphics and maybe remastering the soundtrack without altering it too much if at all. A remaster may include QoL improvements but maybe not.