Back when Homelander and Ryan were getting along 👀 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5uJft1e0JbNdZc.html

I think Ryan will be the Superman of this universe, no matter what happens. He will find the right path eventually.

So there is actually a hope for an actual superman to exist in this universe

This was Ryan's "Starlight lied to you just now" moment

Seeing Ryan do this gives me hope that he'll thankfully turn out more like his mother than his biological father.

Bro the parallel between Homelanders speech in season 3 and Ryans Speech now in season 4.

i love how puppets dont drop the act when ryan says stop

Homelander's gonna have to change his name to Billy now 😂

When homelander did something like this in season 3 he made a speech about himself and how he is the real hero but with ryan he makes a speech about the importance of family and how they are the real heroes. The parallels are incredible

That's pretty sure that Ryan loves his mother more than anything and once ryan gets to know what homelander did to his mom, Ryan will surely go against homelander. And Ryan being the son of Becca also makes him a human which ultimately shatters the lab rat's dream to raise Ryan as something more than a human.

Ashley: Go to commercial! Homelander: Don't you DARE stop rolling, Roger! Ashley: Go to commercial! Ryan: No, don't go to commerical. Keep rolling, please. Such a vast difference between the two and I'm glad to see it

Ryan.... literally the only character on the show who doesn't need redemption.

Butcher grimly slumped over the bar counter while that ridiculous tune plays on the TV is a hilarious contrast.

2:35 How proud & happy Butcher looks at Ryan 🙏🥲

the heartwarming asides, the fact that ryan hinted that homelander SAed his mother by referencing butcher on live tv is hilarious

Ryan's "don't go to commercial" is such a great parallel to Homelander's "I'm stronger speech", really highlights the differences between them and who was raised properly.

I think people are really gonna question homelander for what ryan said about his being mother married to another man that's not homelander

Some people can say the writing regarding ryan isnt consistent when in reality it is. Remember what Volgumbaum said to HL? That if he was raised by a family and not scientists he wouldve turned out better? Ryan is the scenario in which that did happen. HL is trying so hard to makw ryan be a copy of him when in reality he isnt. Yes the behavior is there but hes more like Becca than HL. Ryan knows what right and whats wrong but the series is showing us that Ryan knows when its time to be ruthless and when its time to be sympathetic. Hes going to bend. But he will never break

Butchers eyes showing hope and appreciation for Ryan is straight up the best moment of the season for me 🥹

In a world full of sociopathic and psychopathic supes. Ryan will stand out as truest and purest definition of a superhero.

You’re not the real hero Homelander. Ryan is.

I like to think, in-universe, at least one of the people for the puppet show, probably a writer, was like "Hey guys, I looked up what indoctrinate means. I don't know, but I think we might be doing that. Are we the baddies?" and that person was immediately made disappear; either fired, "promoted and relocated", or worse.

“Don’t u dare stop rolling roger😈” “Don’t cut to commercial🥺”

I love how the parallelism between how Homelander demanded the team to keep rolling, threatening them if they did otherwise, while Ryan starts by asking them that they don't, and furthermore even saying "Please", Ryan wasn't demanding them he was asking from the bottom of his heart because he genuinely had something he thought people needed to hear

This is like 90s family movie when dad doesn't show up for the kid's sport event or Christmas.

A Train becoming Flash and Ryan is becoming Superboy of this universe 🤌👌

Ryan could start a new generation of superheroes who ACTUALLY DO the right thing.

Ryan could never end up like Homelander, his mama taught him love and compassion way longer than he knew Homelander. He even asked Ashley to please let it not go to commercial, unlike his father

Butcher: "THAT'S MY BOI!"

That actually hurt homelander

and his next speech will be about justice

I think they are so right to show this. In today's times we see family members fighting over ideological differences and even Falling apart.

2:22 Homelander visibly acts like he got punched, you can tell hearing Ryan say “she loved her husband Billy.” and not say some lie on TV that “She loved my dad.” was DEVASTATING to Homelander. Reminds me of when he said “Why don’t you get him to be your dad.”

I swear Ryan and Annie (Starlight) will have this competition of who has the most protruding jawline in the boys universe...

I love how Ryan doing like when Homelander spoke his mind about Vought. You know. The I'm STRONGER scene? Unlike his biological father, however, Ryan had more peaceful approach rather than pulling LOUDER-mean-BETTER way.

2:52 classic butcher

It's incredible how in a similar situation Ryan is acting more mature than Homelander.

This aged like milk in a short time.

The boys having an actual Superman is something that I thought was impossible.

I almost cried at Butcher being proud of Ryan.

Homelander realizing there might just be a superman to his Lex Luthor

Ryan used empowered hearing

What if, to save Billy's life and defeats Homelander, Ryan gives him Compound V?

At least Ryan said "please," unlike his father.

Congratulations Ryan you are a real hero

Ryan's light, shining deep inside, just resurfaced

There will be a star man waiting in the sky.

And there's our Superman fellas. I'm calling it now, It's setting up the premise for the final conflict. One way or another, Ryan WILL stand against Homelander. Not just physically but ideologically as well.

One of the best things this show did was make Billy an actual character and person.

Bad people don’t like being reminded they could have been better Ryan just did that to Ashley

I stopped the vedio when Ryan said stop and now he is not commanding me to resume

I love the parallels between Homelander and Ryan. Not only this scene is a great contrast between Homelander's speech with how he's "better" and "the real hero" but also Ryan's demeanor when it comes to doing what he wants Looking at the people on the set's reaction when Ryan stood up to speak the truth, they all looked terrified, like they were expecting for Ryan to act like Homelander, but instead his approach is...gentle, pleading instead of demanding to keep the cameras rolling. I live for these moments. Also, I also love how Homelander did a 180 in this episode, the past episode he was gaining Ryan's trust by telling him that he doesn't have to do anything that he doesn't want and that no one can convince hom otherwise and here he's telling him to just roll with it. He doesn't want anyone controlling Ryan but HIMSELF.

I think Ryan used his super hearing when he heard Ashley say go to commercial, small detail

Butcher trying not to cry almost had me crying

We are just few moments away to finally make homelander snap out

The most satisfying scene in the whole show.

Am I the only one hoping they make Ryan an Invincible-esque kind of superhero?

Hope his aunt Rachel saw it

I can't believe nobody is realizing the puppets and puppeteers are a reference to Ave Q!!!!! Also, im pretty sure those are the actors doing a cameo.

Scorched Earth, but with Homelander and his son? Or maybe Butchers tumor can give him the power to pull it off?

He’s going to be the Superman of the boys Universe and I’m here for it! Remember the Vought scientists said his power could be limitless and if that’s true he’d essentially be Superman Becca would be so proud

Butcher is so proud

The bit with Butcher at the end is such an awesome moment.

THERE’S A STAAAAARRRR MAAAANNNNNNNN

Here Ryan does what HL does by betraying the script for authenticity, but unlike Homelander in the times where he goes off the script, eg "I am better than you all", Ryan betrays it for something more heartfelt and genuine. Ryan and HL both have that bubbling authenticity that surfaces every now and then through the media facade, but it's clear that Ryan's authenticity is more in line with humanism, whereas Homelander just thinks he's better than everyone else.

I'm so proud of you Ryan 😢😊

2:35 Billy's smile brings me hope and chill

Ryan could be the pivotal character that would end up being the ultimate equivalent to this universe's real Superman.

ryan switching sides every episode

Heres my theory. Ryan becomes this worlds version of a true Superman . He'll defeat homelander, and the supers that still support vought will be this worlds super villains that he fights to protect this world. The few heros that are innocent or defect from vought will get to have a chance at being real heros while the villain now have to feed their addictions and evil temptation without vought safety net.

Homelander should've been grateful that Ryan was actually raised by a real family instead of trying to make Ryan like him

Billy was a proud dad here.

Justice for my man Rodger. All he wanna do is cut to commercial

Now THAT is a hero

Ryan slowly turning on him now is gonna be the last thing to sever Homelander's sanity and restraint and set him on a wild rampage. At this point, I wouldn't put it past Homelander go tell Ryan the truth of how he was conceived purely out of spite.

Homelander is the ultraman of this universe then Ryan will be Superman .

In a way Homelander should be proud of Ryan. Because Ryan stood up for his beliefs despite others not wanting him to. And in doing so, isn't being controlled and not letting others control him. Something Homelander wanted/wants for himself and for his son Ryan.

Ryan is gonna go berserk when he finds out about what homelander “did” to Becca

Loved Butchers little smile there, really was a proud step dad

Not many people get the reference between Ryan demanding Ashley to not switch to commercials, just as Homelander did. All in all, cool work by the team!

I sure hope Ryan doesnt laser a random nurse and then laser Grace Mallory out of anger in the next episode...

2:35 he looks so proud

All Ryan needs to know is how he was conceived and he'll turn on homie instantly. I guarantee homie will say some crazy ish like "she came unto me," to Ryan and that's what's gonna set him off to take the first strike at his dad.

If Ryan becomes an actual superhero, what do you think his title or name would be? Nobody say Homeboy.

I hope a new Superman is born with this

His mother raised him well.

2:19 I might be over-analysising this but I love how when Ryan mentions Butcher, we're shown Homelander's reaction and ONLY his. It's a subtle way to convey how Homelander is so insecure and self-centered that he is offended by the thought that Ryan would deem him not important enough to mention while Butcher is, despite not being there for his son the entire holiday. And in contrast, Butcher, who actually sents a present to Ryan, didn't care if he was brought up or not. All he cared was Ryan's courage to speak up his mind on live TV. One of the few times Butcher genuinely feels happiness.

There’s a star man moment

Also, instead of being absolute infuriated (at least until now), Homelander expressed conflict in him. Because just like Ryan, Homelander admired mother figure. Homelander himself had hard hard time to pick between being respected by others or having a mother alongside. I guess we at some point would think the same.

I wonder how Rachel will react when she realizes that she has a nephew.

Ryan dying first episode of season 5 would really be an acceleration to the ending

Somehow I missed the 2nd lens of significance that Ryan saying "loved her husband Billy" holds until the 2nd watch. After the acknowledgement of Butcher alone and the weight that carries, it also brings into question Homelander's relation to Ryan. 'Husband' not ex-husband, husband in the present tense. That makes any kind of connection Homelander has to Ryan's Mom something odd to the public's eyes. I _really_ hope they touch on it next episode. This is great for the turns it could bring, might finally bring a defined wedge between him and Homelander too.

I know vought will find a way to twist his words somehow, but don't care, this was a punch in the gut to homelander and I'm glad Ryan did this anyway

Aced that Talk-No-Jutsu 👏👏

«Ryan, I'm proud of you for saying what's on your mind. Ryan, I've been manipulated my whole life and I suddenly realized that I was doing the same thing to you. But I won't do it anymore. We are free. You and me.» -Homelander S4E5

I feel like his story will probably reflect or be similar to Mark from Invincible.

"a boy's best friend is his mother" - Norman bates

Ryans cooked

Finally Ryan doin the right thing he deserves better than Homelander

Could make a genuine hero outta Ryan yet