and then Dickie was killed, which I'm sure still hurt him

Wow, where’s the whole ‘be a damn responsible father’ shit in this ‘mawkish’ pity party?

@@lizziebkennedy7505 because people are humans not robots. He's just lost someone he cares about. He also didn't have a father so he had no example to follow

Phillip was a genuine POS who lied and cheated PUBLICLY until the day of his death, in which his Godsons wife/mistress stood side by side with the Queen to mourn his death. If Charles/Dianna were the period stain on the crown, Phillip was the ripe repeated skid mark.

Sorry, but I think this is BS Morgan got wrong in every way if you look at actual evidence and the real history!!! For one thing, Phillip didn't complain about his childhood, which he considered "happy," but where there is a bit of a wedge in that story is how what happened with his MOTHER affected him. Of course, it wasn't HER fault she got hauled off, locked away, and tortured by old Siggy Freud himself!!! Still, if we're going to apply the PSYCHO's analysis, Phillip always gravitated more toward women due to how his older sisters stepped in when the mother to whom he was closer as a young boy, leaving him with that preference for women's company, really. It hurt him so much that Morgan implied it was HIS fault his sister died HE wanted to abandon "never complain, never explain" to sue Netflix!!! Did we hear a peep about how Mountbatten and the relationship to Charles was played? Besides, as close as they were, Uncle Dickie was a grasper, which Phillip understood; he was really the one who just HAD to have HIS name added to "Windsor" (which he actually wanted REPLACED by "Mountbatten"). Any "transfer" was done because CHARLES would wear/be the Crown! Even the advice for Charles to take his time sowing his oats was so that his granddaughter would come of age to be the royal bride, supposedly proposing that he and the then 16 year-old distant enough cousin accompany Charles on a tour so they could start getting to know each other--a notion that got shot down but Charles apparently did consider, along with a proposal after Mountbatten died. That event and/or Charles put her off being so royal, and he moved on. Dickie played father to Phillip and was an important part of the family, but Dickie was always about ambition more than love!

I mean after what he did to Dianna is the least he could do.

Helps that Philip basically said to him "don't you *dare* repeat my mistake" by telling him his feelings of jealousy towards him with Lord Mountbatten. Charles may have messed up with Diana, but he never stopped loving his sons.

I don't know what you are seeing, but from my perspective as an American, I feel Charles resents William as much as he did Diana. He knows deep down the British public and the rest of the world would prefer King William reign now instead of King Charles.

You can resent someone but still learn from your mistakes. Regardless of his feelings, William is still his son and an heir to the throne. In an interview with Camilla, she implies that she knows perfectly well that the public will never fully accept them but what's done is done and they are carrying on till the death. @@teriannebeauchamp254

@@teriannebeauchamp254 I’m an American and I see pride in Charles with William. He talks a lot about how proud he is of William. There is no resentment.

Phillip is right there in front of him. He's not gone yet.

​@girl1213 Well yes, physically, but not necessarily on an emotional level. Fatherhood isn't just a biological state, is it! And these two were sooo estranged. Charles couldn't be the son Philip wanted and Philip struggled a great deal with accepting and understanding and perhaps even loving Charles (in terms of actually *showing* affection). It's a clash of two different generations, different personalities (the real Prince Philip once said in an interview "It's terribly simple: My son's an idealist. I'm a realist."), and on the bottom of it all, ENTIRELY different upbringings. That gap between father and son got bigger as the series progressed, and eventually made the two men feel so estranged from one-another that even the best family counsellor would've struggled to fix all the frustration. Had they been given more time to actually grow as a family, out off the palace's and the public's eye, far away in Malta where they could pretty much be who and what they wanted to be, his parenting style may have turned out differently. If King George had died at 76 instead of 56, Philip and Elizabeth actually would have had a chance to just be parents, while Charles and his siblings could just have been kids and aspects like "I'm outranked by my eight-year-old son!" wouldn't have come to mind nearly as often because Ltn. Comm. Mountbatten would have been happily occupied with hid role as a naval officer and head of his household. ...But well, fate had different plans for everyone involved.

@@NiVi192 I was talking about death.

@@NiVi192 He must have done something right though because Charles looked distraught at his funeral.

*angry glare*

And Edmure from the same universe playing a figure like Phillip, born with prestige but set figuratively aside.

Who was Tywin? I've never heard of that member of the family.

That character's name isn't Tywin. Having a psychotic event??

@@lisamcallister6534 If you think you're being funny, you're mistaken.

He needs to be in a Marvel movie I guess

Agreed!

no - he needs to be on stage - would love to see him where his is at his best - a Shakespearean role I think - but we are in agreement that Tobias Menzies is an extraordinary actor 🇨🇦🙏

I just saw him onstage in NYC in The Hunt - he was utterly fantastic!@@ej3016

If you're anywhere near NYC, he's onstage in The Hunt now. He's brilliant in it!

Aside of his affair with Camilla, I questioned his paternal instincts years ago when William was injured during a game of golf and had a fractured skull. William underwent surgery. Diana was with him. Charles was at the opera.

@@sweettea6706 Without patronizing anyone...sometimes distance is what is best needed for you when a loved one is badly hurt. As much as I wanted to be by my father's side when he fell 8 feet onto pavement and shattered his ankle to the point the bone was exposed, I needed to keep my distance and stay away from the hospital until after the surgery was over. I would have been a mess, unable to pay attention, just stuck in a vacuum of emotions and thoughts, probably blabbering or fish mouthing, no use to anyone, if I went to the hospital. I wouldn't forgive myself if dad saw me like that, even though he wouldn't blame me. Because he would blame himself. You can't help a loved one if you can't help yourself first.

@@sweettea6706 That's unfair. Charles went to the hospital when the injury happened, he was assured things were stable and he attended an event he was expected for but kept in touch with the doctors. It wasn't life threatening.

With a Season 2 callback no less

Yes, and it was Philip who brought about the reconciliation between the two - probably because he realized that he also bore a certain amount of blame for Charles's shortcomings as a father and husband.

@@thomasplinguidy4588 Generational trauma takes more than one generation to fix.

Lord Mountbatten?

And gay too

Caring for his fatherless nephew is destruction?

Helped he had two grandsons who had a mother who openly showed her love for them both without any care to what they were going to be in the future. She helped Phillip understand a lot about human needs for love and acknowledgment from their parents, which in turn made him a better grandfather, especially after Diana passed away.

His fault and of course his own father's who was anything but a father figure...

and how do you know that? did you work as a top level servant at a royal residence?

A lot of parents are jealous of their kids. They're narciccists. I was " raised" by two of them. It was hell

One with Philip’s history. In a Mountbatten triangle. Dickie had a way.

You'd be surprised

Your use of the term Ginger Whingers speaks volumes about you, not him.

Mountbatten was a power chaser. He was best of friends with Edward VIII until the abdication, and then he shifted his attention to George VI and his family. Dude was infamous for costing the British Navy a lot of ships in battle and was called "The Master of Disaster".

Bitter little person aincha?!

@@sadjaxx it's only facts. His father was high up in the Royal Navy and married into the British Family, but they lost a lot of their influence to to anti-German sentiment in Great Britain during WWI. This probably contributed to Dickie's desire to have his family closer to the British Royal Family.

@@sadjaxxyou lot hate the truth, don’t you?

Yeah a lot of Liz and Phil’s attitude towards child rearing and philosophy definitely messed up their kids.

Not that far off real life, tbh. From what little we know about their private lives, it seems Prince Philip saw Charles as a softie, and did everything he could to "toughen him up". I imagine these days it would be classed as abuse, but it put a very real strain on their relationship, and I'm not entirely sure it was ever mended...

I'm pretty sure nuclear silo security protocols have fewer pages.

@@P.MoMoney61 It wouldn't surprise me. That Louis Mountbatten sure was a piece of work!

But how do you know he was treated poorly by his parents? There's no actual account of him speaking badly about either his father or his mother, so one has nothing to evaluate upon. The only thing I can think of is that Charles disliked his time at Gordonstoun, the boarding school Philip insisted he go to, but even that Charles was keen to see it through.

It's really not that unusual. The Windsors are descended from the Hanovers, and the Hanover kings absolutely hated their heirs. George I hated his son George, who became George II. George II hated his son Frederick so much that he was reportedly glad when he died. George III did not have a great relationship with George IV. Victoria blamed her son, Albert Edward (who would become Edward VII), for her husband's death. Edward VII had an OK relationship with his son, George, but George V was not fond of David (who became Edward VIII). But one thing was clear from the Hanoverians and Windsors: They loved the grandchildren. George I loved Frederick. George II loved George III. George III doted on all his grandchildren. Victoria wasn't fond of children at all, but did take a vested interest in all of her grandchildren. Edward VII was reportedly a big fan of both David and Bertie. George V doted on Elizabeth. So it's really not that unusual that Elizabeth and Philip resented Charles, and it's really not all that surprising that the queen mother and Lord Mountbatten invested in Charles. It's pretty par for the course for that family.

That’s why they condemn it. As soon as the fictional conversation leaves their mouths, you can see it all in events and notions that were public.

@@boulevard14are you kidding? They left their infant children for months. Duty is a disaster for children. Charles can’t even hold in a tantrum in public. He’s a child. Fortunately the 21st century is catching up and this nonsense will not continue for too much longer

​@@boulevard14But he did lament the coldness of his parents to the public at least once, I specifically remember that. It was ages ago but he did an interview mentioning his dissatisfaction with how he was raised. I think it was pre-Dianas death but it definitely happened.

Charles was more affectionate than his own parents had been, and he didn't force his sons to do things, he's never even forced William to wear a kilt.

He came from a cold, Germanic upbringing in an especially austere time, was from a military background, had a well-known penchant for sarcastic jokes at others’ expense. He and everyone in his immediate family had been dispossessed by World War I and its after-effects, and he didn’t really have a permanent home until he was married. He was an ass, but I think if I had been dodging bombs in the war just for Mary of Teck and Winston Churchill who had sat on their fat asses in cushions for the past 50 years to tell me I couldn’t keep my last name, I’d be pissed off too.

@@seantolson6223is on record as saying he hated it, but then did it to his son.

Society loves youth. And here was the seemingly cantankerous old man, in stark contrast to his beautiful daughter in law or his eligible bachelor grandsons. Also as we age we all get stuck in our ways while society changes, and that didnt work with the younger public, none of who will remember the strapping young man in the earlier for of his wife's reign. He seemed to be a great patron of sport and very interested in his grandchildren and great grandchildren.

Sing it!

At this point I think that he knew how much his father resented him how could he not considering he had to deal with it on a daily basis At that point when things get so bad talking it out and revealing the source is all you can do you then try to go on from there and do better the fact that it did get to this point however is a failing on the fathers part

No one made Phillip ignore and abuse his kid. He obviously learned nothing from Dickie taking him under his wing. The Windsors are the poster children of generational trauma.

Philip is probably grieving in this scene too. But he doesn't show his grief through sorrow because that's not how men were meant to do it in his time

They are toxic. They do not understand the basic bonds of nurture that is the point of family.

Lord Mountbatten was certainly a prideful and arrogant bastard. He even tried to change the Windsor name to Mountbatten. Queen Mary pretty much stomped that idea flat by reminding him that a Founder of that name is still alive, and he better not disrespect her again.

Agree! Did he sense his scent or know by his footsteps or what?

Evidently 'Dickie' failed abominably at that task 😂 Butch he is not and never was.

He asked Lord Mountbatten for help, not take over for him

@@girl1213he had to take over as must have noticed how Philip was an awful father to Charles.

Narcissists never can...

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Marius?

Josh O’Connor played Marius in BBC’s Les Miserables in 2018.

He was Marius in underworld blood wars

Yes.

I always saw it as symbolic of the pressure he was under.

Hardly Anglo Saxon in aristocracy after William of Normandy conquered England. The common people remained AS, but the aristocracy were Norman thereafter. Even after they abandoned the French language. The reality though is that we are witnessing a well practiced act when we see them in public. Like when you see Hollywood actors doing PR for their latest films - they are still acting, albeit the character is a modified version of themselves for mass public consumption. There may be individuals that are used to seeing them in their element, but I doubt that the average person will ever be acquaintances with one of them.

Stop projecting

They're ethnically German. Maybe that explains the stoicism?

@@mnomadvfx Many thanks for your observations and comments. When I see other European Royal Houses they seem more human and normal. Even the last Tsar of Russia, Nicholas II and his family, armed with Kodak Brownies. Were absolute shutterbugs. Alive, mischievious and alive!! They were warm and endearing. They truly cared for each other. Openly, In private settings. Not like this stiff-upper lip crowd. No wonder Diana felt so alone and deserted. She could express emotions and be genuine in public. And the public was drawn to her. Gratefully. William and Harry. Whatever their problems now. Can emote much better in public and break that unemotional and stoic persona. I think they will break with that behavior. Or at least modify it. I hope they do.

Technically speaking, the closest 'Anglo-Saxon' ancestry the Windsors had was via Henry I's wife Matilda of Scotland's maternal grandfather Eadward the Exile- at least until the Queen Mother , Diana and Catherine Middleton married into the family! Yes, if all goes to plan, William, the Prince of Wales and his offspring will be the first monarchs of Great Britain since Eadward the Confessor with more Anglo-Saxon ancestry than otherwise!

And, it is rumored, he told Charles not to coddle his own sons after Diana's death, but to toughen them up -- apparently to make them as cold and unfeeling as himself.

Charles loved his boys

Imagine how children of actual pedophiles feel

It's not his job to be them