Principal Stands Up to Officers and Defends His Student
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Article: dpo.st/2MbF1fU
New Jersey v. T.L.O.- bit.ly/3kf9y9c
Jones v. Hunt- bit.ly/2NTGYho
DPS Policy JIH- Student Interviews, Interrogations, Searches and Arrests - bit.ly/3pHiN32
CO Rev Stat § 18-8-111- bit.ly/3dJuWC6
CO Rev Stat § 18-8-105- bit.ly/37FSDYn
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@patricialynveal4017 3 жыл бұрын
Man Denver in news a lot lately
@simonrichards5476 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a story on Brittany William Arrested in her driveway for allegedly throwing a spoon at an officer parked on her property without her permission.
@843maddendude 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway of sorting your videos by state? Since a lot of the laws are specific to the state these incidents happen?
@mistere6299 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, I am fairly certain that this video has been done before. I think it was done a few years back as I remember the story completely along with you giving the officers a (C) I think due to the detainment of the teacher
@vickybhosle7319 3 жыл бұрын
I m from INDIA. I have gone through ur so many videos and much impressed. But I have to ask u one question that is, " Under the name of police safety police very harshly , rudely,in a very exuarated manner does the initial investigation and result in pulling gun and handkuff which is not necessary always. Question is that this behaviour n treatment of police are creating anti trust about police and making people more immune about crime, cz unnecessary police use force and that make very bad picture about law n judicial, R U AGREE WITH THIS ?" And in so many events police even don't care what kind of force they have to use in which circumstances. When i see police are Pulling gun on a man in home with his small child almost under 3 4 yrs, feel very sorry for the picture creating in these small children. AND SOCIETY IS THE REFLECTION OF IMAGES IN MIND IN EACH INDIVIDUAL. I have request to all Americans try to overlook this unseen but manufacturing unit of criminals... I m ranked class one officer, n I have discussed this because I also love Americans and their VISIONS. And I want America also remain a great nation In India, not very good but law n judiciary is doing better n day bye day improving ...
@bryantkapono4241 3 жыл бұрын
That's so weird that a police department investigated themselves and found no wrong doing I've never heard of such a thing before
@tears_of_asariel3198 3 жыл бұрын
in this instance, minus the cops attempts to get the principal to violate school policy and the overall way the cops just assumed the school was hiding the kid, they didnt actually break any rules... morally yes they get an F, but they didnt commit any punishable offenses
@tears_of_asariel3198 3 жыл бұрын
@Myles yes, convenient that no actual laws were broken (that im aware of)
@briancanfield5658 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Democrats
@yourdaddy6030 3 жыл бұрын
That's Denver for you.
@freeassange5151 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant statement LOL
@someguycalledCh0wdah Жыл бұрын
I love how the cop tried to ask an emotionally manipulative question about the principals children and the principal shut that shit down immediately and ended any friendliness right then and there.
@disturbedpyro4511 Жыл бұрын
His attitude totally changed after that question. He’s a great principal that clearly cares about the safety and reputation of his students. You can see he got upset when they implied one of his students is a murderer.
@Tms0211 Жыл бұрын
He sure did.
@ellengrace4609 Жыл бұрын
Right! How did that cop think this was going to go? Cop: What if it was your child who was shot at? Principal: Oh my, you’re right! Let me trample on my student’s rights for you now that you put it that way. 🙄
@taycie1486 Жыл бұрын
@@ellengrace4609 well the video was about how the police officers had the right. Diminished rights in schools. Because there are other innocent children whose safety trumps homeboys rights when he might be responsible for killing another person. The principal did a great job too. But the police officers are obligated to prioritize the safety of other children if they are in the presence of a young man who may be walking around with a gun.
@ellengrace4609 Жыл бұрын
@@taycie1486 My point was that the stupid comment by the cop was unnecessary and ineffective. In fact, that comment/question immediately shut down the principal.
@xTBCGx Жыл бұрын
Funny how the cop logic here is, "If it was your child, wouldn't you break the policy?" This corruption is such a part of their personalities that they can't imagine anyone having integrity.
@luceatlux7087 8 ай бұрын
I'm SO glad someone else said this (and so well too)... I get this silent, irritated anxiety in some cases because I feel so alone with such opinions and it's difficult to succinctly relay certain things. You always catch these people (the officer) with stupid, though forceful opinions, shoving their false narratives of reality down everyone's throat and, most of the time, we get steamrolled by them because the honest complexion of the situation is too nuanced to quickly elucidate. Thank you!
@barnabusdoyle4930 8 ай бұрын
The proper real to that question is, If you were pressured to do something that would get you fired and your family homeless, would you still do it? It’s like when you hear someone say, “If all of your friends jump off a cliff would you jump off a cliff.” The proper response to that is, “If you are driving in traffic and the cars in front of you stop would you?”
@ghetifal 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. Those cops looked so frustrated to be thwarted by such a calm, gentle, resolute man. Their desire to domineer and manipulate was put in sharp contrast.
@cw3598 7 ай бұрын
B+ from this hack
@Bitchslapper316 7 ай бұрын
On the other hand the teacher just told him the kid was there so the cops thought the principal was lying to them.
@zacharytaylor190 Жыл бұрын
A principal who literally puts his students first. There should be more like him.
@josephlee2469 Жыл бұрын
Except there was a chance that student could have been armed
@pr9039 11 ай бұрын
No, puts one student first, possibly endangering all the others. Seems creepy to me.
@cat-le1hf 11 ай бұрын
@@josephlee2469Nobody was buying the cops lies. They're full of shit.
@justdrop 9 ай бұрын
@@josephlee2469 There's a chance you could be and could be attacking a school. Doesn't make it reality.
@brielliott04 9 ай бұрын
A gem for sure!
@michaelhartman851 3 жыл бұрын
This principle knows his shit, he's not a parent or guardian so he has no authority to grant access to a minor, he's acting very smart and responsible.
@nomasknoway9903 3 жыл бұрын
Yet it means nothing because he was overruled by a corrupt smoke and mirrors illusory hierarchical system of authority.
@pascalfilion3518 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomasknoway9903 it sure meant something. At least he did the right thing and can sleep at night .
@sijonda 3 жыл бұрын
He's perfect for the job he's doing.
@scarlson325 3 жыл бұрын
He said he is a parent but was not going to talk about his kids. I think that could partly be what made him say no right away though without even checking first. I think it's better that he has kids because he's acting with the thoughts of "if this was my kid" So he probably thought "if a cop went in demanding to question my child at their school, about being involved in a very serious crime, I would hope my child's principal will stand up for their rights too since I'm not there to do so" I'm not a mom so that's a guess lol but I agree that he was awesome. Also as a principal I sort of feel like there's some sort of responsibility/authority over the minors he is responsible for that are enrolled in that school 🤔🤷♀️😂 (literally not sure how much that even applies 🤣🤦♀️)
@abbuw- 3 жыл бұрын
principle is rules........ principal is ur head school guy cuz hes ur princiPAL.................... peace............
@lucasketzer3090 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words everyone. I am the Principal shown in this video. This situation was very unfortunate, but everyone should remember that the students that are served by this school experience similar interactions with the police in their daily lives.
@felicecomplice 3 жыл бұрын
When he said “do you have kids?” I wouldn’t have been able to stop myself from squinting and scoffing and exclaiming ha!!! You could give lessons on how to handle a manipulator.
@wellthen6177 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being a well informed principal. Where I'm from, they would of came in, with the principal leading the way, and beat whoever & snatched them out.
@ClioDank 3 жыл бұрын
If you really are that guy, thanks for standing up for your students
@garethmeyer2054 3 жыл бұрын
Great principal, a little too nice to cops but still a firm and authorative way to handle the situation.
@rodk691 3 жыл бұрын
Standing on truths is a marvelous act nowadays!
@870chrismane7 Жыл бұрын
That principle genuinely seems like he wants the best for his kids no matter who they are or what their background is, he just wants to try and make sure that they can keep their life straight.
@-TheUnkownUser Жыл бұрын
or just their life.
@ohhi5237 9 ай бұрын
yeah his not a good german, hes a good guy
@kreeves122 Жыл бұрын
It seems like Principal Ketzer is no longer the principal at Rise Up. But wherever he is in his career path, I genuinely hope it will always be on the road of educating today’s youth. Mr. Ketzer- you are a rare and shining star in our country’s public education system. Your dedication to your students first and foremost is admirable and commendable. You set a VERY powerful example to your staff and to other administrators. As a mother of 2 teenagers I would be honored if they had the opportunity to thrive under your guidance and care.
@markobighead3173 Жыл бұрын
I certainly wouldn't want a principal to use his ideology to put all of the children there in danger because his emotions and anti-police sentiment is more important than allowing police to find a murder suspect who could be armed and dangerous within the school.
@kreeves122 Жыл бұрын
@@markobighead3173 An educator such an he, did not just stumble into becoming the principal. His track record and level head, his dedication to students safety and well-being is how and why he rose to that level. Do you really think the school wasn’t aware of the situation? Do you really think they just thought, “meh if he’s in here and armed, fuck it”. No. They obviously knew what was going on, made sure the kid wasn’t a threat to himself or anyone (making sure the safety of others was confirmed), and THEN protected his civil rights.
@athena5573 Жыл бұрын
@@markobighead3173 it was literally the school policy
@RezzVibes Жыл бұрын
@@markobighead3173 it’s not ideology tho at all it’s his civil rights and the school happened to have a policy to protect them
@killer_munch Жыл бұрын
@@markobighead3173 So he followed his policy’s that the school had set and that means he is spreading his ideology? Lmao what a joke go to the station and dick ride there.
@KyleCowden 3 жыл бұрын
What a jerk statement, "So if he shot at your kids, you'd have the same policy?" I would hope so. A standard isn't a standard unless it's, well, standard.
@hotrodsather 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong, that was a perfectly reasonable response.
@SirTorcharite 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodsather Perfectly natural response. Using "reasonable" is quite a stretch imo. I understand why he'd appeal to emotion in an attempt to manipulate the situation, but it doesn't make it any less disgusting.
@user-wk3ru2ry3v 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirTorcharite your really overreacting calling it disgusting
@SirTorcharite 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-wk3ru2ry3vMaybe I have a low disgust factor and high expectations and general respect for people in positions of authority. Are there more disgusting people? Yes Does that make this any less disgusting? No I'd like to believe that the cream rises to the top eventually, but it's apparent at all levels of policing, the saying, "sh*t floats" is more appropriate as of late.
@user-wk3ru2ry3v 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirTorcharite Allahu akbar
@gregorythomas333 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you have children?" That has no bearing on this interaction officer...you are attempting to play on my emotions to circumvent the school policies and the law.
@buddha3209 3 жыл бұрын
It's a tactic they use to make you use your emotions over your mind
@plutoboy1564 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I couldn’t watch the full video, was this a quote said in the video by the principal or your own words. Well said either way. Time stamp me if you can
@gregorythomas333 3 жыл бұрын
@@plutoboy1564 @4:45 "Do you have kids?" is a direct quote from the secondary officer to the principal.
@thefacebiters 3 жыл бұрын
Gross and scary yeah?
@dysfunctionalorange 3 жыл бұрын
He was wanted for attempted homicide, he shot at someone’s kid and they were hiding him, and the cop asked how he’d react if someone shot at his kid and if he’d hide them from the police
@ajnathan9490 Жыл бұрын
I realise I'm watching this episode a yr down the track, but, I found it absolutely terrifying to think that the police thought it in ANY WAY appropriate to corner a 'possibly armed murder suspect' in a school classroom, thereby endangering the lives of other students whilst effecting such an arrest in such a location! Had my child been one of the other students, I would have been gut-wrenched ...
@ange4048 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts! And probably why they have that policy in place, which I think is actually very smart. Make school the safe place to reduce the chance of violence there! Glad to see I am not the only one to see that, pity it’s not the police to see that wisdom.
@kurtdowney1489 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 percent
@funkyfranx Жыл бұрын
@Bill K It’s the police’s job to de-escalate the situation, not increase tension and fear by prowling the school with their own guns. It’s not that they should have done nothing, it’s their inappropriate way of handling it
@austinp8172 Жыл бұрын
@Bill K Yeah, I can see both sides. I mean, would you want to allow a possibly armed murder suspect to continue being around your kids? There is no good solution, really.
@dawnwr30 Жыл бұрын
The worst part about it is he was only wanted for questioning which is another way of saying they ain't got shit on him They don't have enough to actually arrest him or really even detain him. AKA no actual evidence pointing to him being involved in whatever it is they're investigating. So they're going to go into a school and disrupt all of the students learning to question someone they don't even have enough on to arrest in the first place.
@jackhall290 Жыл бұрын
If a SCHOOL is protecting someone.. odds are they're either not your suspect, or the answers will come out in due time, it's not like this PRINCIPLE was a mafia crime lord refusing to let them talk to a dinner guest. He literally told them, hey we're not letting you have anyone during school hours and we're not breaching the trust of any of our students just to hand you someone before the end of the day.
@kimobrien. Жыл бұрын
The teachers and the school staff are bound by the "in loco parentis" doctrine which makes them the parent during school time.
@9-23-15 3 жыл бұрын
The Principal has his Principles.
@carryeveryday910 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Harboring a murderer seems like a good principle to have lmaooo.
@kingdizzy2871 3 жыл бұрын
@@carryeveryday910 ik right i wish he was my principle when i was in school
@warcrimeenjoyer219 3 жыл бұрын
@@carryeveryday910 has this kid been convicted of that
@Mikerille 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrimeenjoyer219 bro didn’t the cops say he was confirmed firing shots? Lmfao seems pretty correct to me
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
A prince of a pal.
@whoathatsalotofdamage3718 3 жыл бұрын
Most teachers I've met think students have no rights while at school. So this is really refreshing
@1nvisible1 3 жыл бұрын
*That principal should be the Superintendent of Schools.*
@whoathatsalotofdamage3718 3 жыл бұрын
I think this warrants a bit more explanation cuz I certainly wasn't expecting to get this many likes. When I said teachers don't think students have rights, I wasn't being hyperbolic or just hating on strict teachers, I mean their textbooks for education majors effectively teach them that while at school they're wards of the state and rights are at the teachers discretion.
@RichieAppel 3 жыл бұрын
I was a rebellious youth and was even told by my high school principal we don’t have rights until we turn 18.
@whoathatsalotofdamage3718 3 жыл бұрын
@@RichieAppel yeah that's not how rights work, so screw that guy. You either have rights or you don't. And if they can be arbitrarily taken away, then they're privelages at best
@keegonblakemore1807 3 жыл бұрын
@@whoathatsalotofdamage3718 I was told by my own mom that I don’t have rights until I’m 18
@gmoney6785 Жыл бұрын
So your telling me these idiots thought it was smart to trap a suspect of a shooting inside a school filled with other children... Wow shut this department down! Rehire and start over. If my child was in that building I would have my own lawsuit to file!
@1337Shockwav3 6 ай бұрын
Incredible principal and the students giving the cops a walk of shame on their way out is priceless.
@bassbeardiful 3 жыл бұрын
"I can go with you if you want" - cop "no, that's ok." - principal wizard 5000
@jcnot9712 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao right, what a Chadosorous Rex of a principal.
@chrisknoblock 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this was the most assertive Moby looking guy I've ever seen. Huge respect to him.
@highlyspontaneous1962 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a standard gay male response when they have something to hide.
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisknoblock Thank you! I was trying to think of who he looked like.
@matiassaenz9128 3 жыл бұрын
bro deadass my man was a boss he didn’t give two shits bout them oppas
@ponyboy7785 3 жыл бұрын
Cops hate it when they get the"its just policy" switched onto them😂😂 EDIT: holy hell I'll never had this many likes 5.7k????
@mazing32able 3 жыл бұрын
Right lol
@HealingHappyAli 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, what a man of true integrity.
@MCCARVERWORLD 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Ophelott obvs you don’t know how much money Rodney king got paid 😂
@MCCARVERWORLD 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Ophelott obvs I do because if they didn’t follow the cops “policy” like you said he needed up being paid huge over that “policy” so don’t be I literate lil boy
@MCCARVERWORLD 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Ophelott I’ll beat the soul outta you bro if you wanna fight come to my gym samqando boxing club in Holland Michigan 😂🤚
@latterrain09 Жыл бұрын
I know it's an entirely different situation, but my 9 year old daughter was taken out of class by the cops and interviewed without my consent or knowledge. The schoo called to tell me about it. Turns out I had told my sister in law that our daughters cousin pushed her privacy boundaries when on sleep overs, so she came to me pleading no matter when she asks, I am to decline having her as an overnight guest in the future. My sis in law was having issues with her daughter, so I confided in her. Somehow the police were informed. These were all kids 9 and under. We as a result were blamed for the family chaos that followed. .....our daughter forced into counseling, her cousin branded an offender, really could have been handled by loving and emotionally intelligent parents, as I thought we all were.....but were not. Lives disrupted. Cops trampled our rights.
@missbrazil528 Жыл бұрын
Damn
@savyor1839 Жыл бұрын
What a nightmare! My heart goes out to you, and I hope there’s a huge compensation coming your way
@mirrrstery 6 ай бұрын
Major props to this principle. MAJOR.
@eyewitness2434 3 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that Police Officers could interrogate a minor without the consent of a parent or guardian.
@truekurayami 3 жыл бұрын
In the end it comes down to assertion of rights. Any conversation with a Law Enforcement officer(Local/county/state/federal) especially if questions of any kind are being asked counts as an interrogation. In short an officer asking a distressed child if their parent is around counts as an interrogation but very few would raise a fuss over it as it is to ensure the safety and well being of a child. Undercover/Plain Cloths messures are also considered if an officer is off-duty and asking about a situation they found themselves at. Reasonable exceptions and expectations are rarely thought about, and only policies like the school system mentioned in this video actively prevents LEOs from performing an interrogation on a minor without a parent or legal guardian as standard practice. By Law the only difference between a parent/guardian being present for the interrogation of a minor, and a Lawyer present at the interrogation of an adult is the nature of the relationship between suspect and their representative.
@MichaelSmith-gu3tt 3 жыл бұрын
One thing my daughter will know is to never talk to police without me or our lawyer present. No matter how good you are at polishing boots with your mouth, whatever you say can and will incriminate you
@Iansco1 3 жыл бұрын
@@truekurayami But here is was an official criminal investigation. They approached at the school so they had some time with no parent present first.
@jonanderson4825 3 жыл бұрын
So if a parent is complicit in their child's crimes all they have to do is deny the police to talk to them? That's not how it works. A child has the option to not have their parents there.
@Iansco1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonanderson4825 how so? Law disagrees. A minor does not have the ability to consent legally.
@damoncrumley741 2 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, so I'm not gonna talk about my kids." He shut that line of questioning down hard!
@since1876 2 жыл бұрын
At that point, my response would have been to have them "leave the property and that we'll conduct our own search." Followed by, "if we find him, we'll advise him of his rights and, if he wants to talk to you, we'll send him outside and across the street to where you guys will be standing. Goodbye."
@Mystik_Rid3r28 2 жыл бұрын
Not just that but the reason for that response is that the cop mentioned his actual kids he asked if he had kids
@classyviper1one 2 жыл бұрын
I just liked to put the thumbs up at 420
@MahoneyBadger 2 жыл бұрын
Dad mode enabled.
@michaelclouse942 2 жыл бұрын
He got pissed that they made it personal
@HH-ru4bj Жыл бұрын
I can't express how much I appreciate that the principal was standing for the rights of the students in his care. There are too many stories out there of police interrogating minors without proper representation.
@mr.whisper3338 8 ай бұрын
That cop can't detain that teacher to use her access to the building. That was equivalent to kidnapping.
@johndough8199 Жыл бұрын
It's extremely professional of them to sit there, smugly joking and laughing about it all, while quietly conspiring against the teachers.. What a bunch of scumbags.
@andrew_koala2974 Жыл бұрын
Brain damaged order following dogs without morals - they love chasing cars like dogs and they gather in packs ready to attack - and tin around each other smelling each others butt. Though sometimes these idiots can be useful.
@kalibkukus8888 Жыл бұрын
I was so shocked to on the Denver posts video of this so many people in the comment section believing that the principal tipped the kid off.
@labased2539 Жыл бұрын
That’s why most cops get shot or killed in gun battles unless they got back up. Most cops are just bullied kids who can’t fight either.
@labased2539 Жыл бұрын
That’s why most cops get shot or killed in gun battles unless they got back up. Most cops are just bullied kids who can’t fight either.
@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 Жыл бұрын
@@kalibkukus8888 I hope he did, fuck these control freaks
@jessshrop4607 3 жыл бұрын
This happened in my high school back in 2003 my principle wouldn’t let the kid go talk the police and the police arrested my principal. I was shocked watching her walk out it was first thing in the morning. She sued and got her money from the city. This was at the beginning of the school year she came back at the end of the school year in June. Much respect to her for that!!!
@freshpotatoes1107 3 жыл бұрын
Just wasted tax dollars. I can't believe it's okay for officers to make arrests even if they're not sure of law.
@titomala-madre 3 жыл бұрын
@@freshpotatoes1107 Cops face no consequences for their actions most of the time. That is why there is an entire movement demanding for accountability from cops. But hey demanding accountability is bad, because it's communism or it's racist or whatever conservative media claims it is.
@freshpotatoes1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@titomala-madre I understand fully. Here's why they're not held accountable. Look up "Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights". It's a BIG problem.
@titomala-madre 3 жыл бұрын
@@freshpotatoes1107 and Police Unions and Collusion with District Attorneys... etc...
@freshpotatoes1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@titomala-madre I know. They are all in bed with each other doing the same crap the're putting people in jail for. It's really quite astonishing that this stuff actually goes on. It just shows you that not even the most sophisticated minds ever grow up. It's basically a high school attitude in an adult system.
@brody1153 Жыл бұрын
I love how pissed the principal got when the cops where let deeper in the building
@jordi880 10 ай бұрын
Not being from the US, the idea of law enforcement having to come to a school for any reason just blows my mind completely.
@trequor 9 ай бұрын
About 4% of kids have criminal tendencies this isnt just an American thing
@jdbarrera 9 ай бұрын
Just about every school from grade 6-12 has a police officer assigned to them. They are called School Recourse Officers.
@brielliott04 9 ай бұрын
It’s a sad reality. I’m a volunteer for my child’s school, I’m a room-mom or “parent volunteer” which means I’m available to help the teachers when they need an extra set of hands for crafts or parties or even just to come in and help students during the school day. I have to pass a background check and get fingerprinted each year which I totally agree with for the students’ safety. The saddest part, and really the point of my comment, is that when I go to the building there is only one door I can enter from, I have to ring a bell on camera, state my name and purpose, then be buzzed in through 2 separate locked doors…then I have to sign in and do the normal things like get a visitor sticker. I’m not allowed to leave a door open when bringing in gardening supplies or boxes of craft materials bc someone could easily get in if I propped a door open. Teachers can’t leave doors open during recess either. Here in the US, schools have to be locked down like this these days because of shootings and creeps. To be clear, I’m not mad at the school for having these precautions in place, I’m upset that kids have to go to school with so much fear for their well-being now.
@jordi880 9 ай бұрын
@@brielliott04 thanks for the reply and the insight. That’s very sad to be honest. Here, anyone can walk into any school as if it was your own home, no questions asked. They’re the safest places in the country.
@tamakiamajiki675 8 ай бұрын
@@jordi880I have seen sheriffs, constables, and multiple cops roam the halls of my school. All doors are locked, and you cannot leave to use the restroom without filling out an electronic form that times you and shows who you are and where you should be. Any admin can access this and search you name to see where you should be at that time. If you are gone to long ur name gets flagged, to many flags and you get in trouble. It’s kinda annoying but I get they trynna be safe. We also got the whole doorbell thing but you have to show a drivers license in a camera to check someone out, and you have to wait outside, no parents can enter the building.
@blockhead134 3 жыл бұрын
I give an F-. the "Youd be fine with them shooting your kids?" line is entirely trying to bully his way into getting what he wants and something that should never be acceptable.
@youtubeSuckssNow 3 жыл бұрын
Plus if they legitimately thought the kid would be armed then there is absolutely no way the principal would have stopped them
@ub3rfr3nzy94 3 жыл бұрын
Ik that bit pissed me off. Act professional, that cop was manipulating. It's disgusting.
@noellerutledge8789 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr. It's the same poor logic attempt at manipulating people into submitting that I face every single day here on KZfaq. Yes, these police officers just used the same methods in conversation as KZfaq commenters.
@blockhead134 3 жыл бұрын
@Trizzle Hizzle how that boot leather taste, bud? If the police even suspected that a shot had been fired they wouldnt have to even speak to the principal.
@seeno1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if there were a school shooting people would say, why didn’t the cops do more.
@jwall7065 3 жыл бұрын
“I can go with you if you want “ “Noooope that’s ok :)” Fucking love this guy
@munchez4410 3 жыл бұрын
Yah he really got him there the cop asked a question and the guy said no It was so awesome
@sheildingepicness 2 жыл бұрын
you're probably just as weasely as him lmao
@Nik6644 2 жыл бұрын
@@munchez4410 the cop wanted to weasel his way into the school to look around the principal probably though „you think I’m that stupid?“
@mikimiyazaki 2 жыл бұрын
Hes just a man. With principles, morals, and a spine.
@mikimiyazaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheildingepicness weasely? So a guy that violates a fucking minors rights just because its a cop asking to violate someones rights? And the guy who says thats bullshit is the "weasel"? No sounds like you are a weasel.
@Michael.Sandoval33 Жыл бұрын
My High School principal won a Super Bowl with the Raiders and had his ring on display everyday. Big guy. I doubt the cops would have even tried this. They thought this principal was going to fold under pressure. Nuh uh.
@gamingonwheels2502 Жыл бұрын
These officers trying to guilt trip him is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
@TaeTy45 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's right, Principal dude, shut down that attempt at emotional manipulation.
@carryeveryday910 3 жыл бұрын
What? Lmao no he was harboring a murderer lmao that’s not right at all.
@nestlefreak1 3 жыл бұрын
@@carryeveryday910 No, hes harboring a student of his who is being accused in a system that requires the presumption of innocence, a presumption that others seem all to quick to dispel with assuming that you seem to believe that as soon as the state has determined they want to talk to you all other relationships you have should be null and void and they should report you to the state.
@danporath536 3 жыл бұрын
@@carryeveryday910 No evidence supports your assertion from afar...very far!
@bilbobaggins7527 3 жыл бұрын
@@carryeveryday910 The principle was not harboring anyone, as the police searched the entire school and did not find the student... The student is not in the building...is this not what the principle said to the police??? It is not the principle's fault if the police chose not to believe him. The principle did exactly what he was supposed to do as the principle of the school...thus he got an A.
@sergeantspeed5941 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as they mentioned his kids I hoped he would kick them off the property.
@Ty-ri7dy 3 жыл бұрын
Police: Hey, this is serious. Principal: Yeah, so are rights.
@michaelzindel1419 3 жыл бұрын
@Daddy Savage Rights don't care about your feelings.
@tylerjackson9131 3 жыл бұрын
Idiots
@klamaire1 3 жыл бұрын
What about the rights of the person he shot or shot at?
@Ty-ri7dy 3 жыл бұрын
@@klamaire1 How do you know anyone got shot?
@yurmabeechaudits3522 3 жыл бұрын
@@klamaire1 and how do you know he did it? (minus the hindsight)
@EvrytForReal Жыл бұрын
I love when the subtitles say [Music] and [Applause]
@debbiemcmenis5541 Жыл бұрын
I love it when you explain what they did wrong and I love learning about what I can do right and what’s wrong with who and what. Thank you
@JaneDoe12573 3 жыл бұрын
Police: "I can go with you" Principal: "Nope, that's OK" hee hee
@tomraineofmagigor3499 3 жыл бұрын
Police: "do you have kids" Principal: "we aren't going to talk about my kids" The officer was clearly trying to manipulate him
@bleaaarghh 3 жыл бұрын
This channel gave these brave officers a B+, I think it’s time to unsubscribe
@PhantomRain 3 жыл бұрын
lol he said Nah
@sslb313287 3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something because as this convo was happening the principal was walking down the hall. According to the officer he booked it upstairs. Officers who lie should be fired.
@PrometheuzReturns 3 жыл бұрын
ROFL got em'!!!!
@singaporesammy 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever tried that "If it was your kid would you care about the rules?" crap deserves an F on that alone.
@lynnsavoy1694 3 жыл бұрын
This what cop's have been taught,in order to get someone to give up their rights willingly.
@koltred 3 жыл бұрын
Defended attempted murderer student in a country where school shootings are out of control. FUCK THIS BULLSHIT.
@Loonistrator 3 жыл бұрын
It was a pretty insidious appeal to emotion.
@shawnvofficial Жыл бұрын
This guy is my hero, he puts his students above himself, truly and honorable man, we should all strive to be this bold in the face of adversary
@Nemshee 9 ай бұрын
Around 10:40 it's so typical. One student starts giggling, one officers says "it's not humorous", of course the students giggle harder and the cop goes back for a bullshit face check. "There's some resemblance" my ass. 😂 The giggles hurt his widdle fee-fees, didn't they? 😂
@candidklutz5056 3 жыл бұрын
are we going to ignore the part where the cop lied and said the principal went straight upstairs, when we saw on the bodycam that he immediately went down the hall to the classroom the kid was supposed to be in?
@perfect716 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I had to go back and watch because I thought the same thing... he went straight to the classroom and then the video cut to him at the bottom of the stairs
@mildaudiophile3879 3 жыл бұрын
Cops lie all the time to get more charges or caught people in a lie.it’s called entrapment.
@maci8331 3 жыл бұрын
Even if the principal HAD gone upstairs... so what? Perhaps that is where his office is, and he went to check the student's schedule and the attendance report. If the teacher reported the student absent (especially if he had been reported absent in multiple classes) that would be sufficient cause for the principal to believe that the student was not in the building, or at the very least not in his assigned class.
@TheSpectre911 3 жыл бұрын
@@mildaudiophile3879 that's not what entrapment is.
@Eidolon1andOnly 3 жыл бұрын
@@mildaudiophile3879 Yup, not what entrapment is.
@j.adamwegs2882 3 жыл бұрын
"We investigated ourselves, and found we did nothing wrong."
@thedenseone6443 2 жыл бұрын
The Police are a fucking joke. I can guarantee you if there were no cameras involved here, the cops would've just pushed past the staff and done whatever they wanted
@deelish22 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? That pisses me off
@masoncline8190 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedenseone6443 "if"
@AntiTeamerAssociation 2 жыл бұрын
@@masoncline8190 did he ask?
@masoncline8190 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntiTeamerAssociation Using that term unironically is cringe
@Articulate99 Жыл бұрын
Always interesting, thank you.
@theantiqueactionfigure Жыл бұрын
I had a teacher during the 60's that would have told him to go get a warrant.
@eatmedrinkme9628 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how the police went from "we just need to question him" to "he's armed and dangerous" when they didn't immediately get their way. They basically lied to escalate the situation to a point where they were given free reign to run all over the school and it's teachers. Called the Principal a liar and possibly a criminal for standing up to them. There was no evidence that the kid was even involved in the crime, or they would have came with an arrest warrant to take him. They invasively interrupted a school, treated the teachers like criminals, all on a hunch the "suspect", not actual "perpetrator" of a crime might be there. This was an abuse of police power , no ifs ands or buts. They gave no shits for the fact that the school is for emotionally troubled students.
@sarashepard7504 3 жыл бұрын
You hit it on the mark. Your assessment was far better than audit the audit as he tends to give extra points to cops for being “nice” about it. They get a D and that’s being generous.
@mazing32able 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertTarmac so you're part of the problem
@joshsims2016 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertTarmac you didn't prove shit you just made a comment and quite condescending might I add You probably are a cop
@yurmabeechaudits3522 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertTarmac Had there been an active warrant for the student there would have been no further need to contact head of school security and waste their own time, let alone the schools. Furthermore, had they felt that need to not show the warrant to anyone at the school but had one, they would not have needed to go through a 30 minute "discussion" and wait while disrupting outside people also. Finally, and MOST important to your comment....the most "low-key" and "calm" way to apprehend a suspect at a school is WITH help from school officials by calmly speaking to them and showing the warrant by requesting them to go bring the student to a secure location away from possible vulnerabilities. What they did in this instance was disrupt an ENTIRE school as opposed to the proper method. BTW. Your first sentence was the greatest act of projection I've ever seen in the comment section.
@mosesestrada7856 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to these extreme rightist, trump supporters and blue lives matter sympathizers, they could use a lesson in basic human decency👏👏👏
@realSethMeyers 2 жыл бұрын
You can see the gears in these cop's heads grind to a halt when they are faced with a situation where they don't get to assert 100% control over others.
@Archaelleon Жыл бұрын
Also that they're like "This dorky principal is the type of dude I'd pants when I was in high school. Damn bodycams..."
@jimlahey3919 Жыл бұрын
They are just trying to get to the bottom of a homicide
@Brecconable Жыл бұрын
I can smell the fascist schooling from a mile away, and yes I am talking about the rise up brainwashing institute.
@ponetastic Жыл бұрын
cops should investigate all shootings
@bitwright5185 Жыл бұрын
Great principle 👍🤔
@skboog Жыл бұрын
major kudos to this principal
@shayj5124 Жыл бұрын
Love how the shady officer told the district official the principal didn’t spend enough time upstairs to conduct a proper search.
@Marbella125 5 ай бұрын
That Sgt. Lucero is a good cop, one of the few who doesnt let his ego get in the way of his job.
@brlybseballplayer34 9 күн бұрын
Bs he does lol the dbag pulled me and arrested me for my TBI medication that even said what it was with my name and prescription after going thru my backpack in my rental car and saying my tbi meds were putting me under the influence lol. Went to the police station took all drug tests they wanted came back zero then said i was driving drunk they did bac test as well all coming back clean lol that pos cop deserves to be fired 😂
@brlybseballplayer34 9 күн бұрын
By the way that medication was prescribed by the VA so yeah hes a pos
@tearsofthefallen02 3 жыл бұрын
The cops can lie but you can't. Went from wanting to question the student to him being armed and dangerous. As a parent, I truly appreciate the Principal's following not only the school policy, but also protecting the student's rights and the dedication to the students in his school. All school's could only be so lucky to have a Principal like him.
@Sahuagin 3 жыл бұрын
I can sort of get that. Lying in pursuit of justice IS better than lying to prevent justice. the problem though is that often-times the police are not actually on the side of justice.
@alexanderredhorse1297 3 жыл бұрын
@@anniedarkhorse6791 using "nob-head" as an insult then tells someone to grow up. the irony is lost on you. if you were a suspect in a crime would you want your rights violated and disregarded? to allow police to bust in and drag you out of a building stomping you and beating you with batons? is this the kind of world you want to live in?
@stitches1110 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderredhorse1297 I get where you’re coming from and you’re right that sort of behavior is unacceptable. But, and this is an important but, the student was a suspect of a violent crime, it is absolutely fair to assume that he would keep a weapon on him so it is well within reason to consider him potentially armed and dangerous, and in a situation where not only officers, but other students and faculty are in a potential danger zone it makes sense why they phrased it as such.
@gabrielg3838 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sahuagin police are never on the side of justice. they harass, brutalize, and dehumanize every person in contact.
@simmerke1111 3 жыл бұрын
If they had any probable cause or evidence, it'd be a warrant. They're probably a shot in the dark rather than an actual suspect. Not upholding his rights would be a lawsuit waiting to happen and a bunch of people getting fired. Plus yet another kid/school that has a negative experience with law enforcement. Don't think the police need any more negative PR right now.
@DanteGrey 2 жыл бұрын
" do you have kids" Honestly such major props to the principal for not losing his shit and falling for this game
@realSethMeyers 2 жыл бұрын
For real. Cops seem to have a deep affinity for manipulating others. Kind of a disturbing personality trait if you ask me.
@liamcorder3812 2 жыл бұрын
@@realSethMeyers Useful personality trait for a job where you have to lie so much
@realSethMeyers 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamcorder3812 A job where you're *allowed* to lie so much, more like.
@venturoes1912 2 жыл бұрын
You have to be real though, if the suspect did shoot at the principals kids, you damn well know he would have let the cops turn the school upside down searching for the suspect.
@jaredwilliams6853 2 жыл бұрын
@@venturoes1912 I doubt the principals kids are involved in crime with a bunch of Latino kids. People don’t just shoot randomly at innocent people unless your a cop.
@Denzamusic Жыл бұрын
Quite good encounter this was. Everyone respected everybody. Nice
@expertbean101 11 ай бұрын
This was one of the more tame videos and I appreciate the police trying to go through the right avenues to be granted access to the school and check for a potential threat
@expertbean101 11 ай бұрын
This was definitely scary though, I remember being those types of kids joking around but had they known there was potentially a killer amongst them and knew the police had the school surrounded, I don't think they'd be in the same mood. Bliss, scary
@DC-pi5ed 2 жыл бұрын
“So if he shot at your kids would it still be school policy?” That line itself already shows where the officers head at the kid is already considered guilty. Shout out to the principal for protecting his students and following policy because the whole innocent til proven guilty does not exist in this country whatsoever you are guilty until you can prove your innocence
@NickHairston 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. They deserve a D- for that alone.
@Vinladar 2 жыл бұрын
That question was something that really stood out to me too. It's an obvious (and poorly executed) manipulation tactic. The officer's intention in asking that question is to circumvent the law, which is a blatant and egregious violation of his oath, considering that his job is to enforce the law.
@stevenmcdabbin7652 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't show that the officer considers him guilty, it shows the officer is worried about the safety of the children at the school and making sure a potential murderer isn't amoung them... wish the principle cared about protecting the students too 🤷
@TheAngrySaxon1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmcdabbin7652 Look most liberals, he was only concerned with protecting the wolf amongst the sheep.
@c0rpse1 2 жыл бұрын
not already guilty its just a possibility based on what hes accused of
@jlog1c283 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you guys have a card so I can give it to him when he shows back up?" This man is galaxy brain, he's using manipulation tactics against the manipulators. Love it.
@Lol-zw8ks 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that. I was like he really wants that shit to file complaints
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 жыл бұрын
He's obviously used to playing the game
@dominicwilliamson7912 Жыл бұрын
Given his position. Id say he ususes similar tactics time to time.
@illustractorydraws Жыл бұрын
talking to cops is like talking to stubborn kids. using soft manipulation helps, what teachers are used to do I think.
@Beeceelee Жыл бұрын
God I hope we get more individuals in our school system and protecting our kids ,like this man!
@Arianvir 8 ай бұрын
You can tell he’s a dad and treats every student like his own
@BamaChad-W4CHD 3 жыл бұрын
This whole thing smells funny. They said they were looking for him to question him about a shooting. They obviously didn't think he was armed and dangerous at first. He wasn't armed and dangerous until they ran out of other options. If he would have been considered armed and dangerous then it would have been much different. They wouldn't have walked up and engaged in polite conversation with the staff while students roamed around. It's bs. Cops finding a way to get what they want regardless of the law.
@hah3456 3 жыл бұрын
I think the school head safety liaison decided that someone who had been possibly armed the night before and in a shooting warranted a search by police bc if they HAD been armed and a school shooting would have happened everyone would have been b.itching about how no one cares about our students blah blah. Everyone gets so up in arms about school shootings and schools have changed so many policies bc of that. We didn’t hear LEO say he could be armed but maybe it’s school policy re school shooting safety.
@koltred 3 жыл бұрын
Defended attempted murderer student in a country where school shootings are out of control. FUCK THIS BULLSHIT.
@taurusfiend5836 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred alleged. The law is innocent until proven guilty. They did not have a warrant and indicated it was for questioning, not an arrest.
@aaronmontgomery2055 3 жыл бұрын
@Sam Yaza Taurus fiend's response to koltred also applies to your comment. Also they are the discovery/investigatory phase so this is all within normal procedure.
@disobedienttiger6240 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmontgomery2055 I agree that it is normal procedure. That they started with the truth "wanted to talk to him" and the police changed their story until "he was possibly armed" so they could get in the door.
@MewtwoShineX 3 жыл бұрын
That officer keeps repeating that the teacher implied the kid was there, but the teacher actually seemed very unsure of his response.
@gem9535 3 жыл бұрын
My experience says that school staff will just say yes, even if they have zero clue. I'm surprised that also applied to interactions with cops lol
@Enclave. 3 жыл бұрын
He was fishing for probable cause. If he ended up needing to get a warrant? He wanted to be able to tell the judge the kid was IN the school not that the kid is maybe in the school possibly.
@DownUnderTechReview 3 жыл бұрын
When you watch the videos where cops have pulled someone over, questioned them and then relay what they asked and what the person they were questioning said you see pretty quickly how they hear what they want to hear. They "paraphrase" in a way that changes what was said to provide them the most leeway and make the person they questioned the most sketchy. But it's not just cops, people just make up things all the time, some 3rd party will say something like "the guy in blue threw the first punch" ...video shows the guy in red throwing the first punch.
@1988ryan1 2 жыл бұрын
The older looking teacher in the cap behind the desk/register at first (that gets skipped right at the start) said he'd seen the kid in school that day 100%, but was unsure where he was because he should be on break or just finishing break, that's more than implying. It's a small special school with few pupils and he said he knew him and he was present in school that day. That's purely shitty editing to purposefully remove details by this KZfaqr at every opportunity, to make it look worse on the police, watch the full un-cut version without all this added biased and opinion shaping to get a real feel for what happened.
@michaelmay4448 Жыл бұрын
The fact that theyll just sit there in the lobby and hinder a whole day for the school is ridiculous. Do you think the principal would lie about the kid not being there putting every other student in danger?
@PerpetuallyTiredMillennial Жыл бұрын
That principal is a damn legend.
@alandgomez5905 3 жыл бұрын
The one cop who thinks the whole school's "hiding him in a closet" somewhere shouldn't be a police officer. He pretty much embodies everything wrong with the system he's a part of.
@jdslater1 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the cop at the end just throwing random ideas and assuming the Principal was hiding him? “he went back upstairs, so I don’t know”. Hey perhaps he was going back to do the work he was doing when you turned up?
@alandgomez5905 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdslater1 Imagine that lol. A principal with a job to do.
@bumble8145 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually illegal to put a student in a room where they cannot leave, as in a closet or even behind a locked door for any reason.
@Quandry1 2 жыл бұрын
The same one that verbally made the excuse. "He didn't go to that classroom we were just lead to. He went upstairs" despite their body cam footage showing the principal going to that classroom first thing when the officer offered to go with him. He know's he's over stepping bounds. He was fishing. Any excuse to do things the way he wanted... and it failed.
@corriblehunt4554 2 жыл бұрын
But he needs his fix of bad guy catching.... it's all a game to the police after a while. They get addicted to the thrill of power
@litpapi9046 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the principal was trying to be relatable an understanding to the cops but knew his shit so wasn't gonna get walked over.
@koltred 3 жыл бұрын
Defended attempted murderer student in a country where school shootings are out of control. FUCK THIS BULLSHIT.
@fazeknight9594 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred Innocent until proven guilty. When you treat everyone as guilty that’s how a lot of wrongful convictions happen
@ObservationofLimits 3 жыл бұрын
@Koltred they really aren’t. You should educate yourself. Stop blindly listening to the anti narrative. Get rid of gun free zones. You don’t see punks shooting up cop shops do you?
@QianBing 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred innocent until proven guilty. This is one of the basic tenets of the Constitution
@michaelriley8002 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred 🐑🐑🐑
@kevindick7485 Жыл бұрын
Very good presentation . Seems that all parties involved ( School administrator, and police ) did an excellent job .
@danashackleton3790 8 ай бұрын
This gives me hope that not everyone is weak.
@gaby012192 3 жыл бұрын
What makes the principal get an A+ from me is that one of the reasons he was so assertive in not letting them in, is because that school is specialized for troubled teens. They make it a point to make them feel safe and actually come to school on a regular basis and put them on the right path. The way he protected his students makes me a little more hopeful for humanity.
@donaldoconner 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If cops can come in and search anytime they want then kids who are scared of cops would never come to school
@tomhanks7873 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like Pedrito being wanted for murder, but were late for English ayo
@pedrox96 3 жыл бұрын
I'd give him an A-, though. He took a great and unecessary risk stating that the student was NOT in the school premises (05:10). Now imagine the cops find the kid inside the school or nearby. Or find proof (camera) he was actually in there during the interaction. The principal would face jail time. He should've kept the initial logic of "I cannot confirm whether he is here or not".
@rampage3337 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrox96 no he whould not face prison time thats not how it works.
@EL-ISS 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomhanks7873 under the suspicion of murder and wanted for murder are very different. If they had evidence he'd done it the police would've provided a warrant there are ways around it. It's people like you that give LOE so much power for no reason. Go back to school.
@mykemyers6488 2 жыл бұрын
That principle just earned the respect of every single student at that school. Kudos to him.
@anonymoususer7663 2 жыл бұрын
And at the same time the cops lost the respect of the entire community.
@enigma5014 2 жыл бұрын
Nah protecting scumbag student is a big NO NO
@bryanhong766 2 жыл бұрын
@@enigma5014 lol
@lucass8119 2 жыл бұрын
@@enigma5014 He was a suspect, but they hadn't even questioned him yet. We should assume the student is innocent until proven guilty and ensure they get their rights and due process.
@enigma5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucass8119 that's the point they need to question him! And that's possible if only the school is cooperating with police.
@theantiqueactionfigure Жыл бұрын
"Hey teacher, leave them kids alone!"
@stephenasmith6387 Жыл бұрын
I wish my school protected me like this when I was a child
@papabumba478 3 жыл бұрын
Around the 5minute mark he tried to vampire him. “I can come with you if you’d like” Sounds nice and friendly, a perfect way to legally get access to a property.
@artybrandt 2 жыл бұрын
"Vampie him", that phrase is fucking awesome lmao
@paulchatel1214 2 жыл бұрын
Vampire : Can I not come in ? Tomska : No ! Vampire : Oh ! Tomska : Ooooh !
@zombierevel 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulchatel1214 gotcha
@joeschmo8755 2 жыл бұрын
The principal was being nice, calm and professional. Out of nowhere they try and bring his kids into a obviously confrontational analogy to provoke a hostile response is very irritating. This principle is protecting his students and that’s very nice to see.
@imposter0shadow Жыл бұрын
So they want to pull the "he could have been armed inside the school" excuse to search and enter the school but want to wait outside during active school shootings because "officers could get hurt" psh
@topo3581 Жыл бұрын
the cop doing the talking in the beginning, his service weapon was already not clipped in and ready to pull lol
@colinbaird7825 2 жыл бұрын
The cops deserve an F. - The line about “if he shot at your kids” - The lie about the principal “going straight upstairs” - Cop evidently called the school staff “liberals” in a derogatory manner. If you can’t control yourself in a professional manner without having to lie or passive aggressively escalate a situation, then don’t do the damn job.
@allenwright123 2 жыл бұрын
They were after a kid with a gun tho.. they have to make sure they find and arrest the kid before he uses the gun (which is even said in the video), because if they don't find him and someone was hiding him, and a school shooting takes place after they leave, then it's all the cop's fault for not arresting the kid sooner.. wether a teacher's hiding him or not.
@sp00kyd4ddy6 2 жыл бұрын
I think they all start off good but then over time they develope a lazier behavior and forget about the law and more about getting more charges on people and their pay checks
@masoncline8190 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong was the lie about the principal going straight up stairs. That was one incident which had zero effect. Therefore B+ or A
@rainwhenidie726 2 жыл бұрын
I assume he called them ‘libtards’ because it was censored. God help us all
@colinbaird7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@masoncline8190 If the "professional' has to lie, then thats an F. Saying that the principal went "straight upstairs" is trying to attempt to insituate that the prinicipal is hiding the kid. Which would escalate the situation. Also the passive aggressiveness and the insulting of the staff warrants an F. Do your job. Dont get personal. Dont put emotions and feelings into it, because when you do, you open yourself up to being ignorant AND wrong.
@mrmsteck 3 жыл бұрын
When asked by the officer if he had children, the principal should have asked the officer if he had principles.
@threwthelookingglass7194 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛😖🤣
@TheSupervillain316 3 жыл бұрын
And maybe some people skills too
@evan8654 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been awesome!
@loui30 3 жыл бұрын
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!😱😱😱
@theangryquad3127 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there......
@Watch_The_Galaxy_Burn Жыл бұрын
Principal gets a A+ from me, you should be able to trust your teachers to look after your children while in schools.
@finaladvance5085 Жыл бұрын
I like how after they searched the first classroom they got permission to search upstairs instead of just "going for a walk"
@PurpleUnicornBarf 2 жыл бұрын
The officer trying to guilt the principal with the "dO yOu HAVe KIds?" Pissed me off. Keep it professional not personal
@ryanow5437 Жыл бұрын
He's talking about a situation that could happen you would say it to if you need to
@levitheguy6086 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanow5437 yeah and that’s called trying to guilt someone meaning personal 🤦♂️
@andrew_koala2974 Жыл бұрын
The principal should have replied Yes I have three goats to keep the lawn in my garden short KIDS are goats - everyone should learn that fact - and Children is a purely legal term. People do not have kids nor children. The poorly educated people do not know that. They have sons and daughters
@samie7025 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanow5437 That was not what the officer did though. Also, they dk if the child is even guilty (they said he was wanted for questioning and it switched to another intimidation tactic) and bringing the man’s own kids into it and acting like it’s related to the case is bias. The emotional manipulation was especially heinous…
@jiggerinokobalis609 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to the kid he shot.
@DrewHaughton 3 жыл бұрын
The officer who implied that the Principal could be lying about the presence of the subject, due to the cloudy recollection of an employee, should really check his motivations.
@koltred 3 жыл бұрын
Defended attempted murderer student in a country where school shootings are out of control. FUCK THIS BULLSHIT.
@mkvk74 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred It's not really that simple, is it? Of course, the US has a problem with school shootings, but it seems unlikely that this is caused by school staff acting according to the law. Had the principle deviated from the rules and law out of fear that these laws would prove inadequate, he'd have effectively betrayed the trust of the students. This trust is very important for the school's function. Moreover, that betrayal could possibly damage the student population's developing opinions on authority in general. It may intuitively seem reasonable to spring into action at every suspected threat, but that kind of thing comes at a price. It isn't an easy choice either. The law is supposed to be a collective guideline, and keep people from having to make ethical decisions in the spur of the moment. The role of the principle as a kind of guardian really demands that he sticks to this guideline and he did his job fine.
@gnralZTT 3 жыл бұрын
He's the same officer who implied he'd be willing to go against protocol and therefore possibly to something illegal for the sake of taking revenge. He's an absolute clown
@jsmith434w 3 жыл бұрын
@@koltred Innocent until proven guilty. Children should be protected, especially from the government.
@maj.peppers3332 3 жыл бұрын
@@mkvk74 That guy is posting the exact same comment in other threads. He's a troll, and a bad one at that. No need to feed
@user-fd4ug2es8t 8 ай бұрын
Proud of that principle.
@joeymayes9140 3 ай бұрын
Awesome principal!!
@TheTSense 3 жыл бұрын
"We want to question him" "No" "Ok then he is armed and dangerous. Can we speak with him now?"
@JAHDCypha 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao but this is all too true and common but if a citizen lies though all hell breaks loose
@Larkosrs 3 жыл бұрын
@@JAHDCypha right, lying is such a shitty commonplace tactic with officers
@dippinoutfool4977 2 жыл бұрын
theres full uncut footage of this from start to finish. the principle and staff should be fired. they knowingly defended someone who was involved in a shooting. not to mention they tried to hide him 🤣 this channel is biased asf.
@TheTSense 2 жыл бұрын
@@dippinoutfool4977 If you want to become a Master-Baiter you need to stop using laughing rolling emojis
@tapp8242 2 жыл бұрын
@@dippinoutfool4977 Link this supposed video then if there is this "full video"
@inquisitorvelisvel7665 3 жыл бұрын
The student gets an F for not being in school during class hours.
@yoo909 3 жыл бұрын
i mean, he is suspected of a shooting, so he doesn't seem like the type to care about his attendance record lol
@diegojackson. 3 жыл бұрын
@@yoo909 so your saying just becuase he is suspected for a shooting, he doesnt care about his academic life
@YoutubeCommenter1st 3 жыл бұрын
@@diegojackson. Yup
@couldntmixapotnoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Nah thats not an f thats a b for time management.
@TheSAD999 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegojackson. What Aaron is sayings is, that's what it SEEMS like. Now we all know not everything is what it seems but he didn't say that's exactly the case.
@kevinwilson2442 Жыл бұрын
awesome!
@nicholasogburn7746 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating case. I agree that all parties conducted themselves admirably and acquitted themselves well.
@erickawalmsley5988 Жыл бұрын
But this student wasn’t a fugitive, he was wanted for “questioning,” therefore he did not break the law.
@truthseeker6153 Жыл бұрын
the student was wanted for questioning. that means that the police have probable cause to bring him as a person of interest because they have reason to believe he was involved in a shooting. he has not yet been accused or charged with a crime. that doesn't mean the cops can't question him. how old were you when you fell down and hit your head. you are probably super ugly too, dummy.
@abbie_joan Жыл бұрын
questioning for them is code for "we want this kid to admit to a crime they didn't commit under duress without any parental figure/lawyer to protect their rights"
@nckhed Жыл бұрын
@@truthseeker6153 But he's a minor and needs either a parent or legal guardian's consent/presence.
@truthseeker6153 Жыл бұрын
@@nckhed hes a minor suspected of a crime with a weapon. you know how many gun murders there are every year in cities?!! fuck that shit. these minors with guns are even more dangerous.
@AndrooUK Жыл бұрын
Didn't they say he was a suspect?
@lucysmith6530 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the officer was like “I’ll come with you” and he just was like “nope”shut it down.
@JerZyDude88 Жыл бұрын
I wish he was my principal. I was 11yrs old called down to principal office and 2 police officers were there they integrated me about stolen bikes another kid said I was talking too older kids at a baseball game. I was my older cousins friend I was talking too it was my cousins baseball game. And 100% know my cousin and his friends did not steal I know this bc they truly were good crowd. I never stole a bike and 2grown men integrated me for 2hrs. 11yrs old.
@thisbushnell2012 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant defense of innocent until proven guilty. That CHILD is in the school's custody. Without a warrant, the police have no power to seize that child.
@LogicBob 3 жыл бұрын
When the officer asked about the principal's kids, I really wish the principal would have said, "Do you break YOUR department policies depending on your emotional response to the situation?"
@keithhowell9572 2 жыл бұрын
"An officer who grabbed a teacher's arm during the search was cleared of misconduct." That tells me all I need to know about the reliability of the Denver Police Department's "internal investigation."
@darlantro 2 жыл бұрын
@Kyle If cops came into my work and were physically grabbing or pushing an employee around that's something I would want reported. Your rights only exist if you defend them.
@masoncline8190 2 жыл бұрын
Considering she was interfering with the search, there is nothing wrong with it.
@frederikanby2634 2 жыл бұрын
@@masoncline8190 getting physical, as an officer is a huge No No. Especially considering she was not being a threat in Any way
@tobybeggs8676 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederikanby2634 you mean when she was blocking the door like a child and he just gently nudged her aside with like 0 force?
@frederikanby2634 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobybeggs8676 still illegal to put hands on a civilians without proper reason.
@gametime4229 Жыл бұрын
This principle is the toughest dork ive ever seen
@michaelkorenberg1313 6 ай бұрын
That principal is a model citizen. He knows his rights. Good man! I have 💯respect for him.
@user-neo71665 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you have children" Yep a whole school of them I'm gonna protect
@user-neo71665 3 жыл бұрын
@@XCodes politicians don't give a rats ass about anybody if they see a chance for a gun grab.
@Americanfury1 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-neo71665 awwww snowflake
@jacksononeill3763 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause it’s very to safe to have a murderer in the school you fucking brick
@thakraken6995 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksononeill3763 ah yes, one who didn't watch the video
@jacksononeill3763 3 жыл бұрын
@@thakraken6995 he was suspected of a double homicide the night before. If he was in class he could have easily been armed at school maybe in his car or bookbag. That’s why they were allowed to search the school because of the possible threat. What am I missing?
@MrVlodato 3 жыл бұрын
i love how cops can inch forward and push boundaries with soft intimidation and its no big deal. but someone inches forward towards them and your face is in the street with a boot on your back and most likely multiple weapons drawn on you. interesting how that works.
@magneto44 2 жыл бұрын
yup
@phumgwatenagala6606 2 жыл бұрын
Community doesn’t exist anymore - we need to be together in groups and not just sitting in our assigned boxes watching TV… until community comes back, we will be mistreated one by one.
@zbutler3111 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@johnnycripplestar5167 2 жыл бұрын
the "safety" is surely there
@austen9556 2 жыл бұрын
You literally don’t have to talk to them being aggressive doesn’t help
@scottland906 Жыл бұрын
awesome principal
@McGrimmy Жыл бұрын
This made me remember how back in seventh grade I was forced out of class to talk to police because I “witnessed” something. I had not and the time they claimed I was there I was sitting in my first class waiting for the bell, they said it was in breakfast. I don’t eat breakfast so I knew it was a lie then. Back then tho I was 12 I didn’t know my rights, I remember me and my family one day talked about that school and I said how annoying it was to talk to the police like once a week because I kept getting placed as a witness for things I wasn’t around (old friend was lying to police. No longer friends) but anyway, I mentioned it to them and both said they’d never been notified and were very upset. They said to always call them if a cop came up to me from that point on. It was just annoying being pulled out of class all the time, and having to talk to police in front of the racist principal who rather hated my family.
@MK_2023. 3 жыл бұрын
Those cops are incredibly shifty. Some of the stuff they were staying and doing made them look suspicious as hell.
@TheShortySosa 3 жыл бұрын
Yea the way they're whispering/gossiping at 7:31 . Super weird and it gives off this sentiment of "oh yea we got him" almost feels like they're more interested in getting their way against the Principal than finding the kid
@chucklebutt4470 3 жыл бұрын
At least there was bodycam footage but who knows if anything was cut. The way they made that one kid take off his hat and stand up and compared his face was pretty dehumanizing, also... acab
@Samot0423 3 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Kennedy I mean the way they essentially detained one teacher so they could use her to get in is kinda messed up
@damonhtoo 3 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Kennedy Plus, the same cops probably had come from speaking with friends and family of the murder victim, and maybe the crime scene too. Imagine being at a crime scene and seeing a bunch of blood, then talking to a crying mother who begs you to get the person that did it. It's unsurprising that they don't have much patience when they feel like someone is harboring the suspect.
@chucklebutt4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@damonhtoo "when they feel like" Yeah, there's your problem right there. If they can't control their feelings and act like professionals they do not deserve respect.
@publicenemynumerouno 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you have children?" "Is that an impertinent/irrelevant question?"
@Dowlphin 3 жыл бұрын
'Why? You want some?'
@bskickflip3433 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dowlphin Yes.
@DOLsenior 3 жыл бұрын
The principal should have answered, "I have an entire school-full of children"
@bleaaarghh 3 жыл бұрын
B+ LOL
@puffy_jr7521 3 жыл бұрын
@@812MSS 1. who says keep them out? My last school had a officer their and everybody was cool with him. This is a entirely different situation where officers are investigating if a kid who shot someone was there. So the principles did everything lawfully and in his power to make sure his students were protected. 2. no one ever says its the police fault. The two main arguments I see about school shooting prevention is gun control and focusing more on mental health. I've never seen a argument saying its cops fault for school shootings. This also isn't even relevant to the comment
@aafay8256 Жыл бұрын
I love how the students are legit laughing at the police 😭
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