For sure dude - thanks for taking part :)

Apogee is pretty high end so I'm sure you'll be ok - yes there is a difference so might be worth demo'ing a unit and seeing what you think :)

Noize London no way of demoing where we are but leaning towards the Prism , thing is we only need a few outputs. Needs to prob be usb tho as we have an old 2010 Mac Pro..

Oh Anast... the best !!

Right?? thanks for watching Andre!

I have the ADI-2 DAC and the Prism Callia at home, so I can give you my impressions on how the DA side compares as they use the same chip and circuitry as the ADI-2 Pro and the Lyra/Atlas respectively. Both are very detailed, but the Callia has better bass punch and a more defined middle image. The ADI is kind of more expansive on the sides and it is notably softer in the low end attacks. I would say the ADI sounds a touch leaner but crisper, whereas the Prism has a bit more body and midrange detail.

YOu're so welcome Aman - thanks for watching!!

Glad I could help

Prism is king I love mine

cool yes prism clear open, rme pro fs is same level ? what's your ranking ? we use apollo solo, rme ff uc, lavry ad11 ;) cheers

Prism is da one!!!!

You know fishing? When you throw the Line at Far?....One Is Long Shot Fizz the Other Is the Lac Drop Plumk!!

@@NoizeLondon Ohh, my bad. Prism is better then. Better depth. Better detail. Listening again on laptop 2 years after. Going for Prism. Thank you

Prism is 👑

massive? come on

@@TheGreatWesternTrendkill Depends upon how trained your ears are and even on youtube it is that audible. Imagine how drastic they are in reality

​@@clickbaitpro well he did say to his ears so that is his opinion but I still think "massive" is reaching. instead of talking about us nerds, I was more so connecting it to the question of how much impact it has on the end product in the average listeners ears. we produce for mostly casual listeners, casual listening environments. we also know that casuals won't perceive this as a big difference (if they detect any at all). therefore so it is safe to state that it is not a massive difference. I work with prism but if I were to use UA it wouldn't even make a 0,5% difference in terms of quality of the end product (I'm being very generous here). these vacuum A/B comparisons have not much to do with how our production work flow actually functions. we hear, we adjust. we shape. we are the shapers. there will never be a situation where you would do the same thing on 2 different systems. ever played two different instruments of the same type? they encourage a different play style. a little shelf in the "correct" direction on the UA and most people would probably gush over the UA. so it just a matter of which producer makes the right decisions. having said that, I'll take the product that gives me the 0,5% potential boost of course

Cary Miller is there a 2 or 4 Channel option with the same converters?

@@miablack Yes there is the Lyra 1, and the Lyra 2, the only difference is you have run them via USB (there is no Digilink cable option for PT HD with those smaller units). I recommend the Lyra 2 It has four outs, two ins, and two preamps.

Cary Miller thank you! would you prefer a Prism Lyra or the new Apogge Symphony Desktop? (It’s great apparently ) looks Simular to the Quartet but only has 2 inputs & the flagship converters... We are running a 2010 5.1 Mac Pro.. a few different opinions will really help us decide :)

Cary Miller does digital link affect sound or just latency? Tks

@@miablack Digilink via PCIE with PT HD Delay Compensation enabled DOES affect/improve sound quality. BUT there are major mastering houses who use Lyra2 units (so the quality is still AMAZING). The only other real contenders are the new 2 Channel RME units, Mytek 8x192, and if you're going with PT HD perhaps an OMNI or 16x16 unit. I still favor the Prism, as I preferred how it sounded to over $50K in different converter designs in shootouts even before we utilized Delay Compensation. So if you're not running a PT HD system a Lyra still might be a great call. There are also other devices which are USB3 to consider for latency if you're primarily tracking (What's your main reason for hunting down a new converter? Tracking and Production, mixing/mastering?)

This is a justification video not a true comparison !

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@@nicholasflores8100 lol true but lyra 2 uses same converters

i agree 100%. Also i have problems with the music material. here in this examples. the a/b switching should be playing the same loop. in the first expample i heard a slight "better" sounding snare transient only... the other two expamples i could not hear any difference beacuse of the "restless" music material. sorry. maybe you share the audio to download the next time.

Completely agreed with every word. :) Here were my notes I took after repeated listenings before seeing the reveal. Track 1: B is a little thicker and rounder (but it's nearly too close to call). Track 2: A has more heft to it, is fuller, a little thicker and rounder - but this time it's noticeably easier to tell between the two. Track 3: B is fuller, thicker, rounder. Listening back after the fact, you really notice the difference on the most accented bass hits in track 3. Honestly, I was a little surprised I consistently picked the same in all 3. I have a significantly easier time telling converters, preamps and even mics apart when I listen to them playing the same section. It's a little harder to tell when the material is different in each, even subtly so, because how can one be 100% that none of the differences are in the sonic content from one section to another? I was sort of hoping I'd like the less expensive converters better once it was a blind test. C'est la vie.

I would go for the prism lyra (1 or 2) my friend. I have it and LOVE it. Cleanest, crispest converters in the market (in my opinion).

You would go with one of those Prisms over dangerous ad+ paired with a dac such as a Mytek Brooklyn dac+ or Solaris dac (Crane)? You feel the prism will still be a better options than those? I dont need an interface, that's why I was looking outside the prism, but I keep hearing good things.

I’m with u on all of the above

I'm sure it would be quite different!

same here..got all three right.......the Prism sounds "deeper" or sounds like it goes further in?

No

that's sick - although I'm worried about you watching youtube and driving at the same time? ha

Noize London oh no! I was watching in the parking lot of my school. I coached earlier this morning and wanted to nap before I started my day, but this video kept me up

@@yungmagickidd haha nice man! well thank you for choosing the video over your nap - honoured!!

Exactly even on KZfaq

Night & day? Come on! Those things both sounded nearly the same but awesome as you cant go wrong with any of them. What you choose is just a matter of preference & what you can afford 🤷💯

@@musadays8083 really depends how you are listening. These things are subtle and also subjective. A mix or mastering engineer has more tuned ears in this department. Honestly I wish I couldn’t hear the difference. I can certainly work on both. I have a treated room for referencing. You’ll only hear this in the right environment, good speakers or good headphones and critical listening. But yes there is a difference. The UAD is thinner sounding however subtle it may be to you.

For me its huge, More defined mids, separation and stereo image. I can assure you the difference will be more audible if its in front of you rather than youtube

Veeeeery big difference the apollo is trash compared to the prism

Atlas will last you for your whole life

I liked the apollo in first one also .

And the subconscious is exactly what part of the listener we want to tap in to ;) Thanks for watching bud - great to see you as a regular on the channel!

holy shit, I had the same thing listening through my audio technica. Do you think there is a difference between UAD apollo twin mk1 vs the big apollo

@@jasonshrestha I thought that the quality was supposed to be the same between the two, but honestly not sure

I've also guessed them all correct. And guess on what speakers i could tell the difference? The built in of my old 4k Philips monitor, crappy, no bass, no resolution. I was actually blown away that the difference still came through.

@@jasonshrestha the ADDA in the apollo vs X6,x8 is big but the dynamic range and transparency still better in the Prism vs UA. If you are big on plugins and the conversion dif is not a big deal to you then you may find value in purchasing an x8 or x6 as they are great. I got tired of having to be always connected to the apollo to use the plugins. Makes mobile non interface editing impossible.

I use the Imperium 2400 to connect them all :)

Its sick right?

me too. and i almost wanted to buy Apollo X16 mk2 lol. I already have an UAD sattelite so i don't need the apollo for the extra bells and whistles. I'm all about converters.

@@costinvaly1 Just bought my Atlas in white, and waiting for it to be delivered!! CANT FCKN WAIT :"D :"D

@@anastav6915 allll the besttt with it!

You need the Prism 2 ;)

There isn’t any just gotta turn the buffer rate down

Old but still gold

nice!

I'll have a look into it bud let me see what I can do ;)

@@NoizeLondon Cheers man, if you can that would be great :)

I’d like this too. Great content tho

Prism converters have been the same for a while but they have held up their quality amongst newer releases without issue

@@NoizeLondon Do you know if Prism actually manufacture their converters themselves? As in, the actual converter and not just the analog circuitry around the converter? Most companies are using the same Burr Brown and Cirrus Logic chips, with literally the only things changing being the analog paths, circuitry design and power section.

It would be nice to see a comparison to a entry level product. Those 2 units sounded ok. Would an entry level unit sound terrible?

I was thinking the same thing! The prism sound like it has an exciter on it - but like a really great exciter haha

lol gotta have them clean pants bro

There is something quite magical about the Prism sound... hard to describe you're entirely right! Thanks for taking part Matt - haha the flanny is for sure my Canadian's gf influence so all credit to her :) Winter is coming and the flannies need to come out haha. Best, F

Thanks, Fabio. If money were no object...

4:55

But what was the playback machine for inputting the sound, and how exactly did you capture the analog outputs of the two machines to create the soundtrack to this vid?

@@adamrouth7586 I'm recording directly out of the interface and then directly back in all in Logic by setting the I/O

Update: I bought the Prism ALAS yesterday! lol. . The difference is astonishing in sound quality, all i've goto to say is the comparison is like a Rolls Royce to BMW. I have the Apollo X8 apart from the six cores of DSP, It was not one of my best investments unfortunately!

@@david5104 You had the Apollo x8? Is the atlas a big difference? What’s weird is in the specs in the manual between these two interfaces, the Apollo x8 is listed as having a higher dynamic range(wired). On paper this would contribute to a better sounding interface, but a sound comparison hear tells differently. What are your thoughts?

@@sammytheman8994 Hi Sam, I still have the Apollo X8 and the Atlas, and to be honest since using the two, the Prism sounds amazing the stereo field the detail and everything sounds clear, plenty of depth, wide sounding with a sparkle. The Apollo doesn’t contend in that area unfortunately and doesn’t sound as good. I use the Apollo for when I’m using the UAD Luna, when doing so I use the Prism word clock, Instead of the Apollo X8 clock, Via using a word clock cable. My overall opinion since having used a number of different audio interfaces, Prism are well known for there clocks pres and overall amazing quality for their audio interfaces at world class high standard industry level. UAD are well known for their world class Virtual Plug-ins. I still believe they have along way to go with there audio interface products in terms of overall sound quality compared to other leading brands. The whole plug-in thing is really what markets the interfaces the ease of use the integration etc. But for those who want an amazing sound, excluding the plug-in hype I wouldn’t go for Apollo X series. I would checkout the Prism, the new Lynx interfaces, Pro-tools carbon, antelopes new Orion, latest Apogee Symphony models, latest RME etc

@@david5104 thanks for the reply man. Why is it in the specs between these two, the Apollo is listed as having a higher dynamic range than the Prism? It’s weird because on paper this would contribute to a better sounding interface

Exactly the same :)

@@NoizeLondon thank you very much, but why does the atlas cost so much more? and do you know whether the lyra1 and 2 have higher quality preamps than the new apollo twin x quad or Crane Song Solaris

More I/O

@@NoizeLondon excuse me dont get what you trying to tell me can u please tell me in easy words : ) ? Thank you very much sir.

Sounds like you got a great pair of ears ! :)

exactly! same on my video monitors built in speakers.

Can you see in logic title?