mine too, was so happy for the few camera's focused on her.

The way she was looking at the ones in front and seeing they weren’t pointing at her.. I couldn’t imagine the pain she felt.

Timestamp? Cant find them sorry

@@caramelcupcake9065 7:34

Right:(

Nahh there's plenty of idols with great bodies that don't get attacked and in fact get praised.

@@xa1239 Yes, that's true, but I was specifically referring to the girls that are on the ends of each of the spectrums (either too "fat" or too "skinny" according to netizens), not the idols that get praised for having the "ideal" figure. Even if you have a great body, netizens love to pick on other features (adittude, personality, etc).

It's extra ridiculous whenever I see kpop fans, especially k-netz fatshame girls who clearly are a healthy weight or AT BEST a few kgs overweight and slightly chubby (normal at that age), whilst one of the most loved and famous male kpop idols out there is Shindong, a morbidly obese man who even talked himself about how badly he needs to lose weight for his heath. Yet he has never gotten as much hate as female idols get for just gaining even the SLIGHTEST amount of weight! Just looks as Jeongyeon from TWICE and all the hate she got and still gets, though in her case the stylists also don't give her properly fitted outfits and make it all worse. Either way it says a lot about Korea and their two-faced mindset, where male idols can often get away with way more then female idols. Not very shocking though in a country where streamers end their lives cause they got accused of being feminists by male streamers and got death threats for it (happened this year, she was named Cho Jangmi, very sad). Misogyny at it again.

@@yulana990 um that happens everywhere around the world … not just in korea

@@hnyuq4049 it is ridiculously worse in Korea..... the Korean beauty standards are absolutely insane.. and the double standards and sexism is basically seen as a norm there..

Right like it makes no sense 😂

neitzens act like she ruined the group when she still was in it and then turn the opposite way and said the group got ruined because of her💀. All because of her weight.

Honestly a lot of korean "idols" aren't really idols in the sense of the word. She is a great idol for anyone. Love yourself, doesn't matter what anyone thinks. I wish she hadn't left than she could have been a role model for how to stand up to bullies but I guess that's to much to ask in the Kpop industry. At least she didn't go on starvation diets.

​@@alinasmith5737I really don't know much about kpoo, but isn't it mostly about sexualizing? I don't think people care about the music part, for example I have never seen a single Facebook post that would talk about anything else, when it came to k pop artists, then their physical beauty. So it seems to me like complaining that an athletic swimmer needs to be thin to be fast in water, if you didn't want to have that responsibility, why would you pick a vocation that demands you be built that way.

@@Enkabard I don't know what groups you're in but I only like 1 group (stray kids) and I like them for their music. Yes, they have great characters and yes they are hot sometimes but I like them for the music they make. I listened to the first song I got recommend from them (Maniac) on Spotify without knowing what they actually look like and was surprised that I didn't hate the song. If you're only watching Kpop to look at hot girls... There's other websites for that. They are artists they deserve respect and you have no right to body shame them.

@@alinasmith5737 i have never watched or heard single song or performance from any k pop group. Facebook for some reasons recommends those posts I have zero interest in. All were male k pop groups, and their female fans not a single time ever commented on their singing abilities, or anything beyond how cute they are. I'm going on a limb here to assume female k pop groups serve exactly the same purpose.

@@Enkabard no. Yes theres a lot of fangirling and a lot of fans like to praise how cute/hot whatever the idols are. But it's not their job. That's like if Jennifer Lawrence did a photoshoot and the pictures are posted online and a bunch of people commented how cute/hot whatever she is, it's still not her job. She's an actress. They are singers/rappers/dancers. And I really don't understand why you're defending a bunch of morons body shaming an artist. You have no idea of Kpop and your first instinct is to defend cruelty and abuse? You're giving major incel vibes my dude.

That was disturbing the way they ignored her and continued taking photos of other girls and she still had a smile on her face. I think she is a real beauty.

I feel bad for her she doesn't deserve that she deserve respect

So glad she’s happier in America where body acceptance is growing and body shaming is taboo. Korea is toxic as fuck.

Being hot and sexy is half of an idol's appeal. For you or anyone else to think otherwise is just dumb.

I think it's rude how fans said she didn't care for her job because of her weight when she trained literally all her life to have that job in the first place. Other girls play in the park at 9 years old,she trained to be an idol. Must have been insanely hard to be judged by people who don't know half of what's going on with you behind closed curtains. The weight could've easily been a medical thing too but people don't even consider things that don't fit "the average person".

You're welcome to get as sick as you want but death isn't attractive and fatness is death, *exactly* like anorexia.

@Muraki Chiyo She doesn't look fat though. And that's not by "American standards" my dad was a Haitian man who preferred bigger women, so American women aren't considered "fat" according to him. In fact, that's a modern European idea that thick people are all "fat".

@Muraki Chiyo Hun, having a little bit of extra weight around the lower tummy isnt fat. Its actually healthy and she doesn't have to change anything about herself. You need to get over your internalized fatphobia, boo 💅

@Muraki Chiyo You're right. You're just generally fatphobic. I assumed you were overweight yourself since you stated you were "thicker." Turns out you just hate fat people. Hunny, you're watching a video about a K-pop idol. If you're into K-pop, then you're already an active participant of toxic internet culture. This isn't really relevant at all, and I didn't ask for your advice over how and were I spend my time. You're just trying to deflect/move the goalpost, eapecially seeing how much your ramble turns into an entire brick of diatribe. You seem triggered. You know that the Haitian guy above said he would consider Kayla skinny? Maybe he's right. Ever consider that your idea of thinness might be rooted in white supremacy?? A black person told you that your opinion of fatness is subjective and you just blow him off to reiterate your SUBJECTIVE opinion on a LITERAL 15 YEAR OLD GIRL'S WEIGHT. (Also weird that you're so concerned with a child's weight). You should be more considerate when conversation pertains to culture, because you look silly when you speak over BLPOC. Also, not true. As long as you're not morbidly obese, which can be measured with a method rooted in science, carrying "extra weight," isn't necessarily unhealthy. In fact, recent studies show that a thin person who practises an unhealthy lifestyle will have more health problems compared to an overweight individual who lives a healthy lifestyle. Please do your research before speak!

@Muraki Chiyo I'll take your non-argument as your concession. Also, why do you type like you're a 12 yr old on MySpace? Weird.

Seriously and especially that cameraman how could they just take photo of other members when a very beautiful girl is standing in front of them the fans who spoke badly just don't deserve her she is a gem in she is pretty the way she is no one have the right to say about it I don't know why some people are like this

I agree... Especially as her body is completely normal and in a healthy weight range. I am horrified by the toxic (and often severely underweight) body image the Kpop world is feeding us.

Netz are kim Jong un, and the k-pop idols are the poor starving people 💀

As if being non ultra skinny affects her entertainment. Her job is *entertainer* and she does her job just fine no matter if she's twig thin or average citizen size

@@yyg4632 but apparently the fans were not entertained at all by her, and that's why it was a problem.

@@yyg4632 I agree 100 percent! And it doesn't even make her more beautiful or attractive id she is extremely skinny! She has a healthy looking body and is glowing... and that makes her super beautiful

I dislike the bullying but let's be honest. That picture at 3:27 with her belly sticking out doesn't look nice.

​@@fermanrekica4766that's your opinion, some woman's bellies tend to be more plump than others because genetics and you know, organs

@@vsprout9316true, but kpop is an industry where image is what an idol sells on. They don’t sell purely on talent, visuals and reputation is also a part of it. That’s the reality of the industry and the fact was: Kyla did not fit the image needed to as a kpop idol.

@@thegojotoyournanamithank you for being part of the problem

BUt it happens in the US too..remember how Taylor Swift got so many remarks and jokes for gaining weight? It's sad but people in the spot light get the best of love and yet the worst kind of hate

It’s just what’s expected of an idol, their image will always be judged and being overweight above all will immediately get you criticism. That’s what an idol is.

@@FurbyMolly lmao nah. look up the bmi chart for minor female asians, she definately was going down a very bad road

yeah she danced well, but dancing is only one of the things you have to do as an idol... you image is your everything after all

@@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist she wasn't going down a "very bad road"

Asian countries seem to have an extreme problem with horrible treatment of "overweight" (100 pounds is apperantly overweight) woman especially. It's disgusting but people don't talk about it as much as they should.

*coughs* doni and coni *coughs*

@@marlaynemelendez7143 I wasn’t gonna say it but these two were exactly who I was thinking of 🫣

i think the host with the wig is lee sangmin. he was the creator of a girlgroup in the 90s and is known for being kind so maybe that's why he has more empathy

I think the wild netizens were mostly Korean bc of their beauty standards there.

I think with the big push for Kpop now has a viable possibility to be successful internationally (and lets face it a lot more fans and money to be made just by sheer population from the United States alone (example California pop. is est 38 mil, South Korea is 51 mil, that's just one state of 50.) ) I think the beauty standard with loosen up, not go away completely, but it would be in there best interest to not force diets or bully people out of the industry because it can have major repercussions on deals and fans in other countries and how they support either the group or the company. Lets face it money talks and will probably be the only thing to really get different looks from idols as a whole. Kyla was such an asset with her skill set that could have been a major hit with international fans, I hope the next generation of girls have a bit more freedom in their appearance.

It seems like it went far beyond this, especially when those photograhers shamelessly ignored her/refused to take pictures of her while she took the time poses for them and you can hear fans go completely silent, refusing to cheer for her at concerts. Poor girl must have felt like everybody hated her

@@LaCrownedGameridk I see alot of English comments with sentiment like “it’s too western” when their are progressive actions

unrelated but what does those random numbers at 2:45 like (+250, -22) added before comments mean? what these numbers have to do with the comments?

pls tell me there are ppl on there supporting her too tho :( it’s absolutely horrendous how she has been treated, and i can’t believe it is still going on right now

IG NAME PLS

Give us her ig we have a few things to say to those haters

@Damhee kyla.massie

How do you know it was in DMs? Can't only the person being messaged see those?

Well, i mean it happened to garam

@@ava1513 because of the accusations and controversy, that’s the difference mainly

@@aniyah444 i’m just saying garam did something awful, but not getting someone to cheer for you is awful as well. But i’m not saying she didnt deserve that though.

@@ava1513 she horrifically bullied multiple people 😨

@@meimae7804 yeah im just saying not having anyone cheer for u is heartbreaking, but garam probably deserves it

Pretty privilege.

This is not a slay like you wanted it to be

People treat pretty people better unfortunately

@@Hwgt888 why not?

Right, one of the only things that PLEDIS did and do right 🙂…

It doesn't matter that she's a teenager, it's still sad that they was calling her fat, it doesn't matter the age, even if she was 20 something it would still be sad

@@Ash_NuggTato It does matter, of course to talk about someone else’s body is disgusting regardless of their age, but to speak in that way about a teenager, a literal still developing child is even more fucked up, I’m an adult now, and I can take comments like that in a more mature way cause I’ve learned what to pay attention to and what not to, but for a teenager I imagine it must’ve been a thousand times harder

@@Ash_NuggTato a teenager is a child. They're still developing. It leaves a greater impact on them.

It’s sad that people lack the basic humanity and, frankly speaking, the class to think it’s okay to bully someone. Clearly this was not restricted to the web since her own production co and the media did some of this as well as the live audience. Bullying is common in kdrama, the U.S., and I suspect it’s universal. That doesn’t make it okay. It’s actually disturbing and a turn off. I was once disgusted by how fans of a U.S. soap opera trash-talked a teen actress because she was portrayed as a villain for the moment (she turned out to be good). This was worse … So called adults attacking her appearance and voice, because they didn’t like her character … This was a teenage actor. I definitely said something about it. We have to do better. Bullying and intolerance should never be acceptable and/or justified.

Omg I remember when Suzy from Miss A was a teen, Super Junior Leetuk who is a grown man also fat shamed a teen to tell her to lose weight. You would think it would get better but Korea is always one step behind when it comes to body, skin & mental health ._.

To be honest, I don't think it was her dream. Her brother has mentioned that it was Kyla's mom who was obsessed with her being a k-pop star and pushed her to go to Korea and train. Which in my opinion makes everything even worse--She was bullied for years about her body when she didn't even want to be a k-pop idol in the first place.

I agree there is no real reason to bully or harrass a child. But if you REALLY think she wanted to stay in prisine why didn't she go on the diet? not anything crazy or starving yourself. She would have looked like the other girls if she put the same work into learning the routines as she did eating a modest amount! Which makes me think she was either very depressed and binging or she was lowkey trying to quit??

@@LittleHatoriI think we will never know, but regardless we shouldntt attack her

@@LittleHatori she shouldnt have to look a certain way to please ppl. its not their concern what her weight looks like. she shouldnt have to go on a diet js bc ppl are bullying her...

​@@BtsArmy-pt4kzlooking a certain way to please people is literally the definition of being an idol

Secret was 3rd generation (2009?)and they had reg average body types for awhile...all 4 girls were not supper skinny...(3 yrs ?)....later on they did had to meet those standards...

Jiwoo isn’t thriving… Now that she lost weight, she is. But before she was body shamed and she finally dieted. Kyla should’ve done the same but we all know what happened 😔

Both of this Idols are getting a extrem amoud of hate espically from Koreans just saying. They also both already lost weight wich they got praised for

And Shindong also said that it wasn’t “feminine” for a girl to be fat, but it was okay that he was fat because he was a male.

@@SaloniBaloney_25 he got bullied on the internet so much after he said that stuff😭its was deserved tho

@@georgiana1147 Yea at least no one agreed with him lol

@@SaloniBaloney_25 Sheesh, talk about Lookism.

@@SaloniBaloney_25 ,

49kg is healthy if your fat percentage is in range, anyone who has over 30 percent body fat is overweight.

@@karlaruiz8685 Right, but most of the times these idols don't follow healthy diets, therefore their fat percentage isn't in range.

@@karlaruiz8685 cool, what about the several way under that range?

걱정하는데? ㅋㅋ

The people hating were prob ugly outside and inside lol they were just jealous

@Veronica Hernandez can't please everyone is one thing but a large amount of fans working together to bully her out of the industry because the company doesn't resond to their ridiculous claims and needs is next lvl ._.

I think she has a Instagram (I forgot the name) and is married and potentially has a child if I remember correctly

She actually went viral due to her comparing herself to Jeffrey Dahmer 😭

Yes i think curvy ppl are pretty asf, she has kinda the same body like me

She's studying for a psychology degree in university I think

As ruthless as it may seem now, back then it was survival of the fittest. ex. Blackpinks Jennie 2018-2019. She had a great figure, an amazing personality, and was a very talented girl who even released her own solo debut! But unfortunately was also a MAJOR kpop punching bag back then because "she looked mean" 😐. Came up with every possible excuse to hate on her after that one online statement by a net. "she dances lazily" "is she glaring??" Knetz- no. Netz in general. They dont care about talent. They dont care about personality or body type! They hate whoever they want and try to justify it with a surface level reason. (Ex. Literally half of momoland.) Times have changed, so it isnt as bad. But back then I can only imagine how hard it must have been to be an idol in korea.

But if every type gets to be a kpop star, then what's so special about being a kpop star? I don't think standards should be lowered. Look at all the successful groups (BP, STAYC, ASSPhuh?, TWICE)- they are all uniformally thin and trim and feminine. None of them are "thicc."

@@stannnleee3440 [be warned, this is a pretty long rant..] so being thin is the only special thing about being a kpop star? I think I may understand what you were trying to say, but you worded it COMPLETELY wrong. (Or i'm wrong and you are actually as blunt as your comment). I understand that kpop isnt just about music. And its not about dance or talent either. Its never been. Idols get surgery upon surgery just to look the part. Im not asking to lower the beauty standard, but to (maybe) be more accepting, not turn idols into ghosts with EDs who only eat ice for lunch, and not to ruin their self esteem because they have a minor muffin top. Its sad. An example is Momo, Jihyo, and jungyeon from twice. Momo- as a trainee (though already particularly skinny) refused to eat normal food. Heard from one of her reality shows she chose to only eat ice for all meals of the day. Jihyo- was told she was too curvy and weird looking to be in the shot, and was asked to step out of it. she hid behind a member after hearing the harsh words. Jungyeon, which happened recently gained weight after coming back from her mental heath hiatus. Instead of coming back to the same warm and loving audience who supported her 7 months ago, she came back to a disgusted one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNyajNyDsrqxY3U.html Notice anything about these three girls? None of them are fat, overweight, OR have their guts spilling out of their shirts. They were skinny, but not as skinny as everyone else was. And that was what they got. Im not asking for any standard to be lowered. Im asking for people to stop acting like A-holes and projecting themselves onto their idol.

@@cookiescream5716 i didn't read your rant. But be honest- we;re looking for the full package (looks, singing, dancing).

And Kyla was lacking in one of the departments. She was holding back the group.

I noticed the same thing! She is truly amazing and so brave.

Damn this pains me 😞

She is strong...

Idk know how she never snapped 😩 she was so mature, level headed, and strong for her age.. I would've had a tantrum and ruined it for the whole group!

Exactly, Kyla is the only one in the group at a normal healthy weight. The rest of them heauxs underweight af.

she is. you're just american. you ppl are used to obesity

besides ofc she had trouble keeping her weight or losing it when there was the WHOLE NATION critizing her!! how should she lose weight with negativity?! ofc she‘s literally eating it all up inside and outside. thanks for the video. everything was said very greatly!! I also liked when u put in that clip of those two men finally complimenting her!!

Netizen?

She is healthy but isn't taking her of herself. Look at image in 3:27, when you looked at her dancing, her belling was bouncing in and out, not a nice thing to look at.

​@@fermanrekica4766 go away freak she looked beautiful

Yes I remember this too. Kyla was just a kid, how could they do that to her 😔

Plz tell me they youtuber name. I need a link plzzzz

@@shahirashamshulanuar3511 Edward Avila. I've avoided his channel ever since. I honestly can't tell you if the video is still up, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. It was a massive controversy in the k-vlogger/tuber sphere.

Yeahhhh... after that and then the incredibly colorist other video I blocked him on all platforms. He is walking self hate and no one needs that type of energy.

@@goldyd144 thats when i saw how nasty he was as well, the fact that he was like "well thats part of the job.. you have to be skinny" is so disgusting... he isnt even korean and hes upholding toxic korean beauty standards

hey, i had no idea Edward made such a video! I used to watch some of his video, but haven't seen that many and it's terrible to know he made such a video... i've been looking for it but can't seem to find it. either I'm blind or it's been taken down XD if it hasn't could you please lmk what it's called or link? tysm

What exactly did Edward do?? I’ve never heard about this 😕

@@lalalotus8041 he deleted the video after a lot of backlash - if you look him and her up on twitter, you'll see how he pissed off a LOT of fans of both himself and pristin

@@dynanananananana made a whole 22 minute video body-shaming kyla saying how pledis debuting her didn't fit the "girl group image" and if she was going to be an idol it was "her job to maintain herself" etc etc etc and then dirty deleted it when he lost 12k subs

@@Chrestomanci94 ah ok tysm

Sorry. That picture of her belly sticking out at 3:27 isn't a nice to look at. Stop with the body positivity, you probably come from a country with a 40% obesity rate and think it's okay for girls at 15 to look like that.

​@@fermanrekica4766stop looking at 15 year old girls maybe, grandpa

@@kvntlord_ I'm probably younger than you. And even I'm much older than you so what. Eyes are still eyes no matter how old they are, they see facts. Hope you understand little piggy.

@@fermanrekica4766 that's what they all say when the cataracts set in lolol

@@kvntlord_ I don't have cataracts little piggy.

She could have lost weight healthy, but it would have taken time and she was just 15. She might have lost weight naturally over the years as she grew up but they never even gave her a chance.

@@epmeats that is true, when I was 12 I became veery big and chubby, but I also have to add I was growing up a LOT. Now that i'm 20 I did loose weight naturally, but im still big because I am tall, and thats normal. At the same time we are all different and it is none of our bussiness if she ever decided not to. We are not entitled to judge ANYONES body, and ntezens can go f themselves, because they are horrible and disgusting humans. 100%

@@epmeats There was no reason for her to lose weight initially either. She was of a perfectly fine weight. Society needs to change its perception that a few extra pounds and a little pudge is going to kill somebody because that is, in fact, not true. Jeez.

@@epmeats some people are also just built a little thicker or have slower metabolism so what would take a normal amount of work to lose weight for some people would become a near impossible task striving for a body type they're just not built to have

@@GopherCakeStuff Precisely!

really? that’s so good to hear 😭 it’s very unfortunate what happened to Pristin but it’s very nice to hear that she is doing better now

Omg fr? That’s honestly so inspiring

absolute queen shit

You do understand you are no better than those hating on Kyla when you are saying the rest of idols are dumb?

@@curerose6906 i don’t think they really meant that other idols are dumb, but rather how people treat them, they treat them just like pretty faces, and often focus more on their looks than even their talent or how smart they can be, one example that comes to mind is hyunjin from skz, and how other trainees told him that he didn’t need to be good at anything and that he would debut just because of his face, I imagine this happens a lot more with female idols

This is unrelated, but can you make a video on Wonyoung? People keep complaining about how skinny she is and it’s so annoying. I wish people would leave her alone about her weight

@@neb.9489 Yes, I was just about to comment this! Many are also genuinely concerned about Jang Wonyoung of Iz*one and Ive as well.

@@neb.9489 I think you're confusing Wonyoung with Itzy Yuna

@@strawmanfallacy8666 nope, its all people talk about with wonyoung

also can you do a story on ateez wooyoung pls ? he lost weight healthily but had rlly bad body image perception back then

There has to be something in the Kpop industry that causes people to become vile. The kpop fandom is so odd and addictive and toxic. Even me, the deeper I get into kpop, the more critical I've seen myself become, and we all need to be aware of how quickly kpop can turn us into critical assholes so that we can make sure we never become ones ourselves. But so many people seem to have fallen to that low and started criticising and hating on idols for the smallest things and creating a toxic community

@@dkskaobd6320 I've never commented toxic like i did after becoming a kpop fan. It's just really in the kpop world and the fandoms to be toxic and be obsessed. I felt way better detaching myself to be just a casual kpop listener without "stanning" a group. But looking at the whole world nowadays, everything is toxic when you involve somewhere. Like everything and everyone are toxic, the real life people, the internet people are all toxic. Being a fat person myself I've been subjected to so much body shaming. The world is definitely not headed towards the better.

I feel the same way when I see Hwasa

​@@dkskaobd6320 Wow, I've been a Kpopper for almost 15 years and I don't even care about makeup nor diet lol. And I don't pay too much attention to anyone else's appearance either. I think, as long as we are clean, live healthily, and dress modestly, it's enough. But even if they don't, I never criticize them either.

Another day, another bodyshaming of skinny and fit women in the name of "body positivity"😌

@@gomoestas lmao this person literally body shamed the other girls saying "skinny ass"

@@The_Queen_of_Hell yes. And if someone would write "next to all those fat ass girls of course she stood out, she was the only healthy looking one", then they would cry about body shaming and how bad it is. The double standards, the hypocrisy...

None of these girls look unhealthy. Not Kyla and neither the slimmer ones. They’re all young, gorgeous and in their prime. Please stop bringing some women down to lift others up.

ikr, such a disgusting human being

right WTF

Right? saying his sister can "suck his ____" because he was mad at her for his own issues is abhorrent.

RIGHT?? I was so relieved someone had her back until even he turned on her!! I can't imagine how painful that must've felt when she was already on the ground 😭😭 to have her own family stab her in the back?? And over FALSE accusations when she only wished him well? She's so strong

but are you sure that's the real account of her brother? because at 8:39 his account is "@LukeyMassie" BUT at 9:35 on the left it is "@bluerazorstorm" and on the right is "@lukehmassie" either he changed his @ several times, or that was just someone impersonating him (I'm not siding with him if he really is that shit, it's just my observation)

That's exactly why kpop is popular. You think the whole "kpop" popularity is just for their music? Nah kpop is only 10% music, the rest is just fandom culture, fun, drama, toxicity, obsession...

@@shakira7301 yes I am aware, that that's just the way, kpop is today, but i wish, it was different. I don't expect kpop to completely turn around, and it is ok, if idols are the way, fans expect them to be, cause yes, that is indeed what made kpop so popular. But it would be nice, if it was also accepted, when idols are not that way and when they wanted to be an idol for the sake of music

Korea prioritizes beauty OVER brains/talents in many aspects in life so like it or not,talent doesn't matter if you can't fit into their beauty standard

You are wrong though. K-pop was originally inspired by the popularity of J-pop and the main job of an idol singer in Japan was to bring happiness to the people, acting cute and being funny. That's why they called idols - because people idolize them. Some of the Japanese idols didn't even had musical/dance abilities and yet they were and are still idols. It's just Koreans took it to the extreme level around 2 generations of idols. The Korean beauty standards got harsher, the training period got harder and the music quality has gotten better. But still, idols were never meant to be musicians and artists but because of K-pop's sudden popularity many companies are trying to outsold one another at certain field. They took the word idol to the extreme level.

@@shakira7301 K-pop is not only popular but also has loyal fanbase. For instance, their photos are liked heavily in insta. They appear to be superhumans with little/no flaws. I wanna get some break of all this. Ughh

This is an old comment and this isn't necessarily about k-pop, but she reminds me a lot of mexican gymnast named Alexa Moreno. She is a thick-built girl and she's also an olympic medalist! I suggest you look her up to find another amazing example that proves that thin is NOT the same as healthy, fit or strong!

Katelyn ohashi had to quiy gymnastic

Lol I remember JYP's cursed mindset about weight made me wheez up until now whenever he says that their weight affects their dancing when most dancers in America are just as thicc as those girls he called "overweight"

​@@eggiemybabyand Ryujin herself proved it wrong too lol

@@bella11110 Ryujin was always skinny

people always want to insert themselfs in somebody elses life.... Someone's weight/looks is not your business. We are not their freinds, families or health care providers. And yes, people love adding to drama way too much.

Blackpink are the last idols I would really worry about as far as weight. Theyve said they don't diet except mentioning avoiding foods that make them bloated right before doing something, which is normal and fine they're still eating something. Plus, only 3/4 are super super thin. Jisoo is in no way at ALL fat, but I think if YG was pushing them to be stick thin, Jisoo would also be their size. I think Jennie Rosé and Lisa are just all naturally super thin, not because they're starving themselves. I'm not a doctor, so I can't say if they're healthy or not or need to change diet or not. But I don't think they are being mistreated or mistreating themselves.

@@ameliarose47 Jisoo would never be as 'thin' as they are because Jisoo's torso and waist are naturally wider than the other girls' structure-wise. Idk, Jisoo is VERY skinny, her arms are thin and so are her calves, her torso is also skinny, there is essentially no visible fat around it, but her wider bone structure trick people into thinking she's 'thick' when she's honestly about as skinny and around the same weight as the rest of the girls. I went off-topic. But as someone who was a similar body type as Jisoo but a bit more thicker, this always has kind of bugged me when whenever I see her she's just as skinny as the rest but fans call her 'healthy' and 'thick' just to put the other members down. Makes me scratch my head. Not saying you're doing it! Just a personal input.

It’s because kpop is a marketing tool for fans to live vicariously through. In South Korea life is very strict and regimented with enormous pressure, so they nitpick as an out. For international fans they’re usually using the group as an emotional outlet of some kind hence all the stan wars. An attack on their group is an attack on their identity. It’s not really gonna change until this current gen that’s into kpop grows up and gets busy with life

kentz crticize them too ryujin luterally lost weight because she felt she needed to be skinny

but even then, those idols still got bodyshamed, so just imagine how much hate kyla got when she's a lot bigger than them...

@@mineofyours not really, there were knetz that liked her body just as much as international fans

@@felmargego2534 you meant normal weight*. Not one single under 100lb idol is a normal weight. They're malnourished and praised for it, normalcy is a sin as an idol 😅

I don't think WJSN can be considered a failure tho, they're not the most famous but they're doing good

I agree, they should have made a smaller group but Pledis is kind of weird in a way and they began to make bigger groups in the past few years. For example: Seventeen.

WJSN doing good tho and Weki Meki is ok(?)

@@tkp97 Seventeen actually did great with their concept though. They turned their unusually high number of members into a strength

@@itzyliascucumbertastelikee3547 WJSN is better now bc of Queendom,Weki Meki have a small fanbase and faced disband many times

I'm Korean too but grew up in Singapore. Returning to family home in Korea always scares me because they always picked on my weight. Sometimes it's with backhanded compliments "Oh you look healthier now!" or "Food there must be tasty," which means "You're getting fat." Other times they just straight up told me I gained weight, or if I got a lil bit tanned, or if I have ONE damn pimple, it's annoying. I refuse to see them if my weight is above 3 digits. 99lbs is my limit. I'm 93-95 lbs now and still think I'm fat thanks to Korean ridiculous beauty standard I can't seem to escape even though I live overseas. I hope this lookism mindset will change soon... (By the way your English is very good!)

@@hannie.haneul that is very thinD:! I’m so sorry that they treat that way and I hope that over time you can be comfortable with your weight and just focus on being healthy, not a number!

Your English is not terrible at all!

@@hannie.haneul bestie how tall are you? Because even at 5'2 you shouldn't be any less than 100lbs THAT'S UNDER WEIGHT. I'm 5'7 and even at 130lbs I was told I would be admitted to the ED recovery ward at a psychiatric facility if I lost any more weight. And it wasn't like random people telling me. It was a whole team of medical professionals that almost denied me birth control because of how under weight I was.

I am sorry for trauma dumping. But I need letting all out. :(

Big facts!

Who said at 15 you can't have a flat stomach and a belly sticking out at 3:27?

exactly she's so fine. wtf is wrong with koreans liking literal sticks.

I’d love to see what the people who bullied her look like. I bet they weren’t “idol” material themselves. It really is a shame they did that to her. 😢