Private Pilot 101 - Mooney M20C Speed & Fuel Efficiency Test

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My Time To Fly

My Time To Fly

Күн бұрын

Today was my first chance to get the Mooney flying again after the ignition scare. I replaced 3 spark plugs are believe I'm all set to fly again.
Come along for the ride as I put the Mooney through her paces at the following altitudes (3,000 msl - 7,000 msl - 11,000 msl). It's my goal to find the actual sweet spot for cross country travel in the Mooney.
0:00 - Welcome Back
2:12 - Run Up - Testing My Fix
4:20 - Takeoff
6:30 - 3,000' TAS Check
9:17 - 7,000' TAS Check
12:00 - 11,000' TAS Check
15:00 - Long Landing
16:00 - Debrief
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@user-km4gj3xt8c
@user-km4gj3xt8c 6 ай бұрын
I love seeing those kids in the backseat. The reason why I’m a pilot today is because I grew up in the backseat as well. No matter what they do in life, they’ll never forget the appreciation you give them for aviation, God bless!
@willieb327
@willieb327 Жыл бұрын
Not a Mooney guy, but you're very worth watching because of your presentation and editing. Great dad too. Subscribed.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
You’re too kind! Thanks so much for being here!!!
@terrancestodolka4829
@terrancestodolka4829 Жыл бұрын
Yep... Great to see a careful caring pilot... Yes, also Subscribed, and I like watching his SAFTY as his Key to flying...and making sure it all works before going cross-country... While demonstrating Mooney's efficiency.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
That’s so much Terrance!
@Avi8tor857
@Avi8tor857 2 ай бұрын
I once keyed the radio as I was getting onto my son. XXXX stop kicking the seat and listen to Mommy... release the button realizing what I did and I hear from ATC... Unknown caller say again (hearing them trying not to laugh)... LOL I was already leaving the airspace so I just let it be. Good info on the real numbers on the plane.
@alexstoll4622
@alexstoll4622 Жыл бұрын
For a naturally aspirated plane 8000' DA is the general rule for the fastest altitude. It's the sweet spot where drag is minimal but engine power hasn't tanked yet. Most efficient is higher, something like 10-12.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Well like I said in the video, I didn’t get the Mooney to go slow. Sounds like I’ll be flying a bit lower from now on!
@alexstoll4622
@alexstoll4622 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly Being a little lower, you'll feel a lot better at the end of the flight too
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Yes! A little more O2 never hurt!
@nickxidis9571
@nickxidis9571 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Fun to see the kids behind you.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick, it's always fun having them with me. I wish my wife was there as well, but unfortunately she had another commitment.
@majohnson55
@majohnson55 2 ай бұрын
Happy day!!!!! Mooney driver too. Two daughters as well. One big regret is that I didn't get into flying back when my girls were young. Keep it up!!!
@rodolfocastro3222
@rodolfocastro3222 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Thanks for sharing.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
You’re too kind! Thanks for being a part of the channel!
@paulrock8571
@paulrock8571 Жыл бұрын
One of the best parts of the videos is watching the girls play with their DC headsets making funny faces! LOL
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, they are something else. I'm VERY thankful to have an isolation switch on my audio panel.
@yankeebravoaviation4421
@yankeebravoaviation4421 Жыл бұрын
6-8k is our sweet spot in our 63 C. Anything above 9 and it falls off quick. I like flying higher only for the winds.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me, I've probably flown too high before for no real savings.
@russellgill2573
@russellgill2573 Жыл бұрын
Great video and as others mentioned, it is great that your daughters enjoy flying with you. I remember in a previous video, when you found the Mag issue, they were disappointed they didn't get to fly. I usually fly my 65 C between 8 - 14 based on the winds mainly, but also the mountains out west drives some of the decision. I haven't done a speed test, but I have just about all of the speed mods on the plane, so maybe I should perform the same test. I was also under the impression to get an accurate reading you would want to go all four cardinal directions to account for the winds.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see a comparison video! I’m not about the cardinal directions point, it seems it shouldn’t matter when we aren’t measuring speed across the ground.
@derstuka96
@derstuka96 Жыл бұрын
Great video and info!!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!!
@Cherokee140Pilot
@Cherokee140Pilot Жыл бұрын
For long cross-country flight, I find the 7500/8500 is the sweet spot for speed and performance. Wonderful video!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words and the input!
@hungrymon7887
@hungrymon7887 Жыл бұрын
In another YT vid the pilot found the sweet spot for his M20 super 21 at 7500'
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly 11 ай бұрын
Seems like 7,500 is just right for the Mooney! Thanks for being here.
@mkrakoff
@mkrakoff Жыл бұрын
You’ve probably already heard it, but there is no better tool than a digital engine monitor when it comes to engine troubleshooting, trend monitoring, etc. I caught a sticking valve very early and diagnosed a mag issue after installing a JPI830. There’s a lot of value in the data it provides. In your case, you could see exactly what was happening to each CYL and EGT during the mag checks and there’d be no guessing on which plug it was. Glad to see it looks like you found the issue though!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I have heard it, but I still appreciate you writing it. If your comment doesn't help me, it will help somebody else eventually. We absolutely need to get an engine monitor installed, along with shoulder harnesses, and a TON of other stuff!
@mkrakoff
@mkrakoff Жыл бұрын
It’s only Aviation Monetary Units, it’s not like it’s real money ;) Definitely the most expensive hobby I’ve ever been involved in and all the really cool stuff cost multiple AMUs. Totally understand the idea of operating within a budget and focusing on safety first. Looks like you’ve got the right ideas moving forward. Now that you have it running smooth again, go find some adventure!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
AMU’s…too funny! It’s like it’s own little world where cost doesn’t matter. I told some guys at work how much my “cheap” spark plugs cost, they about fell on the floor. Then I told them about the fine wire plugs, and they walked out of the room!
@mkrakoff
@mkrakoff Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly 😂
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Now they think I make too much money…what are you gonna do?
@SamWilliams78
@SamWilliams78 Жыл бұрын
Your girls playing in the back is just so precious! I am a girl dad as well and I hope to get to experience that one day with my daughter. Love the flight videos man.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Sam, they are certainly a riot.
@j.d.ensminger1710
@j.d.ensminger1710 Жыл бұрын
Flying a Mooney in a TEKTON T-shirt.. I already like this guy!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I even work at Tekton!
@TimKirkmt
@TimKirkmt Жыл бұрын
Nice video, really enjoyed that, great fuel burn for that alt, and speed, bears my PA28 hands down. Be interested to see a video on short field performance, and how the mooney gets on with that. Thanks for sharing
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch Tim, I'll do my best to demonstrate some short field ops...although I'm not very practiced up on them. I guess it's a good excuse to go flying!
@TimKirkmt
@TimKirkmt Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly absolutely, although we dont need an excuse....:))
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Truth!
@TheHemiphil81
@TheHemiphil81 3 ай бұрын
I have only ever flown cessna, 172 175 and now a 182tc skylane. I have always wanted to get some seat time in a mooney to feel the difference in the aircraft. I think mooneys are beautiful aircraft.
@yamilcabrera2111
@yamilcabrera2111 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome that the girls go along with the flying. They even look interested at what you are saying. My 21 yo has never flown in my plane and the 25 yo loves it and they borrow the warrior as the boyfriend is a pilot. That is a fast plane as I’ve read. I’m lucky if I get 120mph on 9gph on my warrior.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I'm truly a lucky guy, they are pretty good little flyers. I'm also luck I have an isolation switch on my audio panel...they get a little loud after a while.
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly 😆
@aldohattonduran5227
@aldohattonduran5227 8 ай бұрын
Awesome 👍🏼💪🏼👏🏼🛩️🇺🇸ty brother 🙌🏻
@fredschwarz9502
@fredschwarz9502 Жыл бұрын
I know that many folks spend lots of money to upgrade their panels, but personally, having only flown 'steam gauge' equipped aircraft, they're familiar and they 'do the job' well. Add an iPad and it's all good. Your panel is set up quite nicely.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Fred. A couple small updates and I would certainly be happy with our panel!
@teamthurston
@teamthurston Жыл бұрын
I agree. 6000 feet to 8000 feet in my 66E seems to be the sweet spot. I’ll go to 11,000 if the eastbound tailwinds are good.
@teamthurston
@teamthurston Жыл бұрын
By the way, because of your video about propeller shaft causing oil on the windscreen I was enlightened to look there too. The change solved my issue as well. Thanks!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I didn't talk about winds here, but they are an incredible determining factor. I guess that's for another video. Thanks for being here!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
That's so awesome, I'm glad it helped you.
@muhammadsteinberg
@muhammadsteinberg 5 ай бұрын
The one area the POH is usually wrong is telling people to go full mixture and no mention of leaning for taxi or just sitting at idle.
@markgunnison
@markgunnison Жыл бұрын
I have similar speeds in my M20B. On x-country flights I flight plan on something between 7k and 9k.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Roger that, makes perfect sense to me now.
@cyrouskhavari969
@cyrouskhavari969 Жыл бұрын
I don't own a mooney, however I do like them for their efficiency. That being said, I would recommend an electronic ignition. I would do a compression check on cylinders. As you well know, MP, and perefofrmance drops with altitude, for normal aspirated engine. Iam not sure, if you're instrument rated or not? But, it will be good to have. I personally prefer a turbo normalized engine myself, for margin of safety. I believe altitude is pilots best freind. 2nd, it is always good, when ever, you take your plane out of the shop, to test fly it alone, or with an A&P that did the work. I wish you, and your family safe flying, where ever you go, or what ever you do.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly Cyrous. She’s fresh out of annual, so the compression checks out good. I don’t have my instrument rating, but intend to work toward that. I appreciate all of your thoughts!
@davidbaldwin1591
@davidbaldwin1591 Жыл бұрын
6:55 Watching the young lady pay attention to everything you did was cool.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for noticing, she is a very special young lady. I'm not sure she wants to be a pilot, but I'll keep working on spiking her interest!
@grillingwithwoos
@grillingwithwoos Жыл бұрын
We fly our ‘65 E model at about 10k and 11k in x-countries granted we’re surrounded by mountains. Our average TAS is about 145kts burning 8.2 gph
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome! Those mountains do get in the way, don't they. Thanks for sharing.
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it was a nice ride, thanks for sharing! I must say that was the cleanest I've ever seen your plane look, did you wash it? I enjoyed watching the kids in the backseat you know wrestling fighting playing!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks William…they are crazy and I love them for it! I pulled the Mooney out in the rain last week to test run it after I installed new spark plugs. I wiped it down when I got it back in the hanger…does that count for a wash?
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly Nooo .... Let's hope you don't do your laundry the same way! 👻
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Anything to save a buck!
@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
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@williamkennedy2069
@williamkennedy2069 Жыл бұрын
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@mooney-m18x
@mooney-m18x Жыл бұрын
8000ft ASL seems to be the most efficient in the normally aspirated Mooneys (thin air less drag, too thin air too little power). 7500 Easterly heading, 8500 West works great if the winds are in favour for your longer flights. I used to use the built in calculator (true airspeed indicator) in my father's '66 "C" model. I see your plane has one too. My current Mooney is more efficient (2mph/Hp) but slower with less useful load than the M20 models.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the input, it seems your spot on with your analysis!
@alpenglow1235
@alpenglow1235 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the ears - “Valsalva”. Normally aspirated airplanes give best range at ~7500msl, no wind. They just don’t have enough horsepower at very high altitudes. You could put a Rayjay turbocharcher on there and fly to the heavens.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I would love to put a Rayjay on, but it’s definitely not the priority at the moment.
@wp4246
@wp4246 Жыл бұрын
I like to fly my Mooney high, 9-12K. My power is WOT and 2100-2000 RPM (3 Bladed prop no RPM restriction) Average 6.7-7GPH 140 knots.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing W P. Are you keeping the RPMs down just to conserve fuel? I think many people keep the RPMs down so they aren't running "over square". I hear that "over square" is mostly a myth and won't cause any problems.
@wp4246
@wp4246 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly RPM down save fuel, less stress on engine, only loosing 7ish knots. Plus my engine is 1950 hours. But operating on condition.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Makes good sense to me! I really like the “on condition” mentality.
@thomasaltruda
@thomasaltruda Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly I think you have the over square thing backwards.. the over square thing is when the MP is higher than the RPM. And yes, you are allowed to go over square, you do on every takeoff from sea level!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
You’re right, I’m not sure what I was thinking. Thanks for setting me straight!
@eddieslittlestack7919
@eddieslittlestack7919 Жыл бұрын
Good video, looked like a nice flight! At the beginning when you were testing the magnetos and spark plugs, can you add on that… So on the ground doing that test if I’m correct you were testing using just the one magneto only then just the other one only? That correct? Then in the air I can only assume the engine is running with both magnetos online and all 8 spark plugs firing?
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
That's 100% correct Eddie. On the ground we check to ensure both mags are working properly, but always use them both when airborne.
@charlesdavis6218
@charlesdavis6218 Жыл бұрын
Where and what type of app are you using for calculating the TAS? Nice Mooney. Trying to finish up my 65 Mooney and burn some avgas. I liked the calculator and would like to install it so I can do the same thing. Thanks
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
It was just a web based TAS calculator. E6BX .com has one or the one I used was on Indoavis. They’re both just a quick google search away.
@eminye1
@eminye1 Жыл бұрын
You should run at full throttle, helps reduce pumping losses, if you can get your hand on the lycoming engine manual you see how much over square you can operate as well.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Roger that. I do run full throttle unless I’m at low altitudes. If I know I’m climbing to a higher cruising altitude, I’m WOT the whole way!
@derricktodd2947
@derricktodd2947 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel… thinking of buying 1/2 share in a 1977 M20C ranger… concerned about the fuel burn due to here in Canada it’s almost $3 a litre. Can you tell me what your average hourly fuel burn . I am used to my 172 at 6.3 g / hr average.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
My burn is a little higher than that. I plan 10 gph during cross countries, but only really burn around 9 (140 knots). BUT, if I was just sightseeing without a big need for speed, the fuel burn can be pulled way back.
@TheBarzook
@TheBarzook Жыл бұрын
I don't have a lot of data for my J, but I once calculated my TAS at 9500' at 160 kts on 8.5 gph. I need to do it more often though because that seems to be a little too fast for the fuel flow. Next month I'm putting Gami injectors on so I need a good benchmark to compare the before/after.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, those are good numbers. I’ve heard great things about Gami’s, I hope they go great for you!
@TheBarzook
@TheBarzook Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly Yes me too. I hear they aren't such a great improvement over the stock ones on Lycos compared to Continentals, but worth a try!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Is there a specific problem your trying to solve? Just curious on your motivation.
@TheBarzook
@TheBarzook Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly It started a few months ago, when I had only 10 hours on the plane and 75 TT, so I was and I'm still green and learning! First my cylinder #1 was getting high EGTs during run-up and idling. I checked the plugs, everything was nice so the next thing to check was the injector and it was indeed partially obstructed. We cleaned it with an ultrasound bath and it corrected the issue. I was also noticing a pretty big difference between my left and right CHTs (30-40 F) and I thought it was due to not properly balanced injectors, so that's when I ordered the Gamis. I learned a couple weeks later that I could adjust my right cowl flap to be more opened when closed to improve air flow over that bank of cylinders. The third thing is that I can't seem to run LOP cleanly, so I hope I'll be able to achieve that now. I still need to measure my Gami spread before so I can see if the new injectors changed anything.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the details, I love the analysis you’re able to do with an engine analyzer. Thanks a bunch for sharing, and good luck again!
@markg4459
@markg4459 Жыл бұрын
Need a three way average (3 different directions on the compass) at each altitude to account for wind speed & direction when you're ckg airspeed & efficiency.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Roger that, I guess I didn’t realize wind speed would have an impact to anything other than ground speed. Time for Cory (me) to do some reading!
@deardaughter
@deardaughter Жыл бұрын
I wish I could learn again. My flight school was a nightmare and I had an incident. Scared me effectively then they stole $5000 dollars and I had to threaten to sue to get some back.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I’m very sorry to hear that. How far into training did you get?
@deardaughter
@deardaughter Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly I solo'd a few times! Happy I at least have that memory. It's been a few months now and I'm trepidatiously thinking of getting back into it with a proper school and seasoned CFA. Anyway, on the positive side, love your videos man!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I hope you’re able to get back after it. The right situation can make all the difference…you’ve got this!
@alpenglow1235
@alpenglow1235 Жыл бұрын
Also, it looks like your running a mode c transponder. In the 48 states without “certified”ADS-B, you are limited to below 10,000msl.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I do have ADS-B on board by way of a tail beacon.
@Bill3558
@Bill3558 Жыл бұрын
I fly a Light Sport with Dynon avionics. Winds and TAS are calculated. Don’t think I could go back to steam gauges.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty sweet to me!
@rrad3926
@rrad3926 Жыл бұрын
I like to fly high. 10-11K. Too many mountains out here. I also pull the prop back to 2300 and leave the throttle forward.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I’ve ram 2,300 quite a bit, I like it! I’m just a simple flat lander,maybe sometime I’ll get around some big hills, I hear they can be challenging!
@subliminll
@subliminll Жыл бұрын
Were you receiving flight following from ATC? Otherwise not too wise to be flying at non VFR altitudes. As an Air Traffic Controller, one of the biggest hazards i see are pilots flying wrong altitudes.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly 11 ай бұрын
Roger that, I did not have flight following...thanks for calling out my dumb move, it will make me better.
@glennbrooks3615
@glennbrooks3615 Жыл бұрын
Installed a turbo charger on a C model it doubled the airspeed at 11,000 feet agl …. Normal aspirated was 110 mph ground speed. After installing the turbo plus kit. We we’re getting 220 mph ground speed at 11,000 feet
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Doubled the airspeed? I'm a little confused by that statement...tell me more.
@jwaviator
@jwaviator Жыл бұрын
I think he meant doubled the maintenance costs 😄
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, now that seems more accurate!
@glennbrooks3615
@glennbrooks3615 Жыл бұрын
@@jwaviator and operating cost.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
In all seriousness Glenn, what do the performance numbers look like? Is it a rayjay turbo?
@Jay109.9
@Jay109.9 6 ай бұрын
i fly a 182 RG and was wondering why you cleaned the flaps so quickly after take off? i like to retract flaps 500AGL so that i can get the most lift and be higher up in case of engine failure. also, is flying in VNO sppeds normal in a mooney? those speeds are insane. ive dpne 150KTAS at 75% Power. great video and great landing.
@jacobellis6150
@jacobellis6150 4 ай бұрын
I can't speak for this guy but in my 67 m20f I'm hitting the end of my flap arc (approx 100) almost directly after take off. My VX is 94 and VY of 110ish and that'll overspeed the flaps.
@Jay109.9
@Jay109.9 3 ай бұрын
@@jacobellis6150 wow what a bird
@houstontexas5486
@houstontexas5486 Жыл бұрын
You may need to get the carb checked. Your idle system should not let the engine die. When your throttle valve is closed that's when the idle system kicks in. Basically it's a hole above the throttle valve and that hole has a vain that goes back into the float chamber. So the vain going to the hole has fuel in it The suction from the piston causes a low air pressure enough to pull the fuel from the holl and vaporize the fuel to enter the plant. If it is clogged the powerplant will not idle. This is part reason we do a cylinder pressure check to see where the numbers are on them. If too weak it MAY NOT produce a proper suction to cause the low pressure and fuel vaporization above the throttle valve. Anyways loving vids I am restoring a Mooney m20 G 1968. Been taking a lot of pics and video. I'll be putting them up once it's complete. I been restoring it for about 3 years now and it's just about ready to put it together and paint. This things is going to be new when I'm done. .ive re-made lots of airframe parts and reinstalled them. But like I said love the channel.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for being here, along with all of the insight. I mentioned the engine dying at idle, that was only when I was over aggressive with my leaning on the ground. It’s never died with the mixture set properly. Does that seem right?
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Also, what a labor of love to restore the Mooney! It’s definitely something I would like to take on as time allows in my life (maybe once the kids are out of the house)!
@Cavalier-lp8tr
@Cavalier-lp8tr Жыл бұрын
Now a days, the only thing I monitor during cruise is my GPS ground speed!
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I also watch ground speed carefully, especially as it relates to total travel time / fuel consumption. But, it’s not really the true measure of efficiency.
@jacobellis6150
@jacobellis6150 4 ай бұрын
Would you expect an IO-360 in a mooney to perform about the same?
@Bustafunny
@Bustafunny Жыл бұрын
The best part of the vid: was the girls playing in the back.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
For sure, they are a riot!
@Lancair320
@Lancair320 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised. I always thought that Mooneys were faster.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Certainly some models are. My specific Mooney is pretty low powered (180 hp) and doesn't have any speed mods. I'm sure there could be more in her, but it's not worth the cost of the upgrades.
@bryceerban947
@bryceerban947 Жыл бұрын
How do your numbers compare to the book numbers at 3,7,& 11? You look like you have a relatively stock M20C.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
You're correct, my Mooney is essentially bone stock. Here's as close of a comparison as I can make. The altitude and power setting aren't perfect. It's pretty close with the exception of the middle altitude. Book 2,500' / 24" MP / 2,400 rpm - 166 mph (actual - 166 mph) 7,500' / 22.5' MP / 2400 rpm - 178 mph (actual - 168 mph) 10,000' / 19" MP / 2400 rpm - 164 mph (actual - 161 mph)
@HairHelmet
@HairHelmet Жыл бұрын
You can pick up another 5 knots if you spend 75k on upgrades.... don't ask me how I know. Site seeing down low I do 2000 rpm/7gph/130kt. Cross country at 2200/8gph/142kt pulled back for endurance above 10000. I'll max at 8000 if it's less than an hour.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Sounds like some great strategies! I'll save the upgrades from somebody else, although I would like to get the "cowl enclosure fairing". But mostly I'm looking for the improved cooling.
@HairHelmet
@HairHelmet Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly Interesting thing about the cowl enclosures and 'cooling drag'. Racers try to get the cowl internal air pressure down to around 1.5 psi, I have no idea what it is in an old Mooney. Too large an opening slows the plane in ways that are not intuitive. The oil cooler setup doesn't help our problem on carb models which again increases 'cooling drag;, there's a relocation kit for the injected ones.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
That is interesting, I definitely don’t claim to know the science, I just want cooler CHTs.
@HairHelmet
@HairHelmet Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly what are your CHT’s?
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I only have a single probe, so it’s hard for me to paint the whole picture. But, it hangs around 400 on my old analog gauge.
@yavoz.
@yavoz. Жыл бұрын
I hope you build a BD4c
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
It would certainly make me the "odd man out", but perhaps that's the way it should be.
@flycow69
@flycow69 Жыл бұрын
The answer to your question is you should be getting only 120 HP out of 180 HP combustion engine at 11,000 feet so that s the reason your airplane is slow at 11,000 feet and you’re not benefiting from any tail winds at altitude.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Need that darn turbo!
@acerbus02
@acerbus02 Жыл бұрын
As the girls get older, the plane will go faster (more aft CG).
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I like the way you think!!!
@joshsaviationadventures
@joshsaviationadventures Жыл бұрын
7000 vfr?
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Yea, I'm dumb. I have no clue why I didn't go to 7,500'. No excuses.
@kdfpiper
@kdfpiper Жыл бұрын
Hi
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Hey there!
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Жыл бұрын
Dont trust anybody hiding behind a beard 🥳
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Haha, nice! I’d shave it off, but I’m afraid my wife would run away!
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly have fun! I owned a 201 for 23 years ☀️🥂
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
So awesome, my next step up will be a M20J, if I don’t go experimental!
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly me in my Mooney over the Swiss glaciers on KZfaq kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5acipNy1MerpIU.html
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Жыл бұрын
My homebase with 10-15 Mooneys located has 1500ft long runway. You get used to that!
@sstrickhausen
@sstrickhausen Жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed the winds aloft? That's got to be a factor.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Wind speed is only a factor if I’m trying to understand ground speed. Today I was just trying learn the airplanes efficiency better. Said a different way, winds aloft could change my altitude selection for an actual trip. But wind speed doesn’t change the True Airspeed calculation of an airplane.
@danielreuter2565
@danielreuter2565 Жыл бұрын
You're taking your kid on the first flight after service? Uh what? Even if that was legal, it would still be effing careless...
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
I do understand your perspective, but also realize there is not a "yes" or "no" answer. In this case, I changed 3 spark plugs. I did all the work myself and test ran the airplane twice. Those kids, and their mom are the most important thing in the world to me. I would not put them in a situation that I felt was unsafe. It's my opinion I was being far from "careless".
@danielreuter2565
@danielreuter2565 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTimeToFly I can see the argument but there are still lots of things that can go wrong. There could have been a wrench left in there that got dislodged only after flying and then hit something and damaged it. You also mentioned having worked on the mags. I work in safety critical system design, so I am quite aware that my standards are higher than normal, but I still don't think any pilot should be taking passengers on the first flight after any kind of maintenance.
@MyTimeToFly
@MyTimeToFly Жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel, I completely understand where you’re coming from. Again I think there is a spectrum of options here. I could have forgotten to tighten up bolt that took 3 flight hours to loosen, giving me a false sense of security on flight #1 and presenting the problem later down the road. In this case, the only work that was done was spark plugs and I felt I took the necessary precautions to be safe. As an example that I believe in what you’ve said, after every annual (when major work is completed by someone other than me) the first flight is always by myself. It’s mostly so I can have 100% focus, being attentive to potential problems without distractions. Thanks again, I really do value your thoughts!
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