Just what I was thinking. Fascinating to watch Casper work out how his student was thinking, and trying to find a way to get his teaching across. Nice kid and good video.

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Cheers Cathro! Those are some solid tips, I appreciate the gold :). I'll definitely be giving those leg tips a go 🤙

Top tips....good to know...👍

Everyone just read that piece in your voice.

Free tips from Cathro! Want to try hit you up for some coaching in the new year Ben if you're still doing it?

Coaching is on pause while I’m working on the new CathroVision project. Pretty much full time training and negotiating contracts at the minute!

Yep. Just brilliant.

Instructors should ask this question more often and listen to the answer.. fantastic

Preceded by “what are you thinking right now...” Really impressively thoughtful for someone that young.

I like your joke but no kidding, this was confusing. No one knows how to articulate verbally how we walk or do a million other things, so how can anyone verbalize how to corner on a bicycle, when the physicists can't tell us how we even balance on one? But we can learn by watching right and wrong ways of doing things. I wish these videos were all slow motion with several split screens from many angles.

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right turns only for me :D , trick is , find a trail with only right turns :D

in Squamish you don't even recognize

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Actually, that's pretty good thanks. The more I learn the more, the more I hear how the thinking for cornering is like skiing. Helpful.

@@colinberry276 - Biking is like skiing only if you ski and/or bike incorrectly or at a low-intermediate level on over-groomed trails. BTW - ski instructors generally start teaching beginners, and after a few years, they can be assigned the low-intermediates. Most ski instructors are upper-intermediates. If a skier sticks to only what a resort instructor taught him, he will be a terminal intermediate. Same goes for MTB instruction. For example: Experts skiers do not concentrate on putting their weight on the outside ski; they keep their weight balanced on both skis. The idea is to get both skis carving. This is critical in powder skiing. The expert skier keeps his momentum generally down the fall line. OTOH, a mountain biker generally rides meandering trails where the direction of momentum must change. Expert MTB cornering technique depends on several variables, but the main concept is that the rider varies his body's relationship with the bike, and the bike's relationship with the trail, in order to change the direction of momentum of both to remain upright and on the trail. So, what Théo de La Soujeole writes (I think) may work fine in some situations, but will definitely fail in others. It is my experience that his point A/ is wrong for skiing, but sometimes correct for biking - except for consciously turning your hips; point B/ is wrong for both skiing and biking - but for different reasons; point 2/ is generally wrong for biking - you want to snap back to a neutral-ready position; point 4/ I don't really understand. Hip and knee flexion/extension is important in both sports, but keeping the knees deeply flexed is not good for either. Forward-leaning bias in skiing unweights the ski tails and so helps low-intermediates skid their turns. It it not used by experts. Weighting to the rear is never good in skiing. OTOH, shifting the weight backward on the bike via a hip-hinge is a super-important technique that is not used in skiing. Also, in MTB the ankles are often in dorsiflexion whereas in skiing the ankles are never in dorsiflexion.

So true, keep the upper body upright to keep your centre of gravity central, and lean the bike (or skis) into the corner to carve around with pressure on the outside foot to keep grip (or drive the edge of the ski in)

Love the vids but always annoyed by the term "punter" for no real reason. I asked my co-worker in Hull what it meant and he only knew it as a gambler. Google says its a prostitutes client, customer or member of an audience... Since you refer to yourself as "Paul the Punter" - which definition would you use to describe yourself then? LOL

Scott Strickland haha yeah I did NOT know about the Australian version until about a year ago. It’s a term we used to use at the bike park I worked at to describe the tourists. But later on I realised what guts it takes to show up and just try a sport like mountain biking, so that’s where it came from.

That is a really good video. With your video i can compare my cornering and what i do wrong and i have the chance to change it! And you have mostly the same questions like us. Why? We are also no professionals 😄(but like a professional....?!?😄) Please more videos like this. Maybe jumping, steeps something like this. THANK YOU

I loved the format of this video. Please make more!

This style of how-to is by far the best I've seen. Usually it's an expert explaining how-to, but a pro watching an average rider and critiquing on the spot gave me a few Eureka! moments.

He's a bit mean. But i guess that's what it takes to be fast. I love that Paul is such a patient student.

@@Marcoose81 he didn't come across as mean to me but the contrary...

​@@Marcoose81 You don't know mean (and this comment isn't meant to be).

Actually, it's more like "then immediately **replace the forward push with straight down pressure** to start controlling the turn (in longer turns, your weight will shift onto it too as you lean over, so beware)"

Underrated comment, more need to read this. The faster you go and the heavier the bike, the more this applies. People coming from a pedal bike and even dirt bike background have a hard time with street bikes and track days for this reason. The problem (or advantage) to pedal bikes is that the rider is easily 4 times heavier than the machine, so rider weight shift (subtle ones at that), can lean the bike, masking the true mechanics of what’s going on-and a lot of misconception on how to turn any 2 wheel, single track vehicle, namely countersteering.

Yeah, I agree ..and, I found the opposite true too - that people will try to tell you your bicycle riding skills won't help you on a motorbike, and that is patently untrue. Nothing taught me how to cope with a short two wheel slide, other than having done it numerous times cresting slick clay trails in the rain on my MTB (wheels sliding around within the trough of the trail) ..no brakes, smooth pedaling until you make it to point past the clay where there is control. It happened within two years of motorbike riding, and my reflexes took over, and I was able to recognise the oil patch, relax and slip-slide through to the other side where there was traction. Both these scenarios happen(ed) on fairly level ground so the key was relaxing and no sudden inputs. Mid-corner would be a different story on both bikes. The biggest diff I found learning motorbikes is the width of the tyres ...a raised (off tyre-centre) patch of bitumen, really uneven road (left to right) or even mounting a slight lip at a shallow angle, can throw the motorbike off-line greatly (it actually tries to tip you and the bike in the other direction) ... you have to muscle things on uneven ground to go where you want to. Also, having been a bicycle courier, I was already comfortable in traffic on 2 wheels.

Interesting. But does he do that? Maybe without knowing.

This is indeed what’s missing in the video. Lots of stuff on how to perhaps steer, but nobody seems to know why. Counter steering is really the main means to lean the bike and all the other techniques are used to position the relative weight of the rider and bike at a certain point to enable either a small turn radius or more ground clearance. Once you figure out the physics it all becomes easier to understand and to train.

Sweet! Have fun Pete

Haha cheers Ken! We had so much fun.

learned that the hard way with very non grippy tires over gravel, funny thing is the second time i hit that corner i naturally leaned the bike underneath me and it felt better, now after watching this video it confirmed that i was on the right track, also switched to grippier tires and holy shiet it feels like i could lean the bike flat against the ground without slipping XD

Exactly! That's angulation & seperation! The very same for biking and skiing! Only difference: when skiing, you wanna always keep your torso pointing straight down the hill, whilst when biking, you wanna steer with your torso, so, turn your torso, where you wanna go! For Kaspar's teaching skills: What he is doing and what he's saying doesn't match up! (1) he's is clearly turning his torso into turns, allthough he teaches not to do so, (2) he is dropping his outside foot to get more weight on it, but teaches not to do so, (3) He's pointing his inside (and also the outside!) knee into the turn, whilst he's speaking of turning the knee out! (dipping both knees to the inside for angulation is just the right thing!!). If that guy was a pro skier, then I guess the difference between railing a bike and railing skis through turns, i.e. the difference that I pointed out first, might be the cause for all of his confusion, when trying to put it into words.. Just watch 9:02 to 9:06 - he is changing leading and trailing foot, from one turn to the other, always weighting the trailing=outside foot!! And how much he is twisting his upper body into turns and dipping both knees to the inside! This is 100% perfect cornering technique for flat (!) turns! But just way different from what he teaches Paul..

tirol trailhead: Agree 100% :)

Penny just dropped for me. Just like skiing... I can do this!

Sweet!

Boo yah!

I think twisting the hips is ok, as long as you twist it to the direction where you wanna go, I think what Paul needs to do is the body and bike separation, relax and don't brake on the turn.

On a flat corner, you have to twist and drop your outside foot. On a berm, you want to do exactly like the video says to do.

@@PaulThePunter Hi Paul - Not a JEDI but better riders are telling me if the trail has berms ride pedals flat if loose gravel / no catch berm ride out side pedal down. What's working for you?

100% Epic/Best. First the core...and arms and legs and everything else will follow.

I like to start without pushing it to far and then i progress to angle it further and pump harder

Those stupid videos. Whoever clicks on it wants to see something useful, sees their whole day..

Just take it one step at a time :)

@@PaulThePunter all you had to say is "one steep at a time" 😔

He sure did Phil! Hope you enjoy the tips.

What the fuck is a "dumb cheek"

Lucky it only took you two years to come across this resource. The hard thing for me was unlearning 20 years of bad habits. No other riding clinic or coaching I've had in the past did so much to improve my riding. Thanks Kasper and Paul for sharing these cornering insights. Been practicing them every outing, 2 to 3 times a week for over a month now. Focusing on just one thing at a time helps tremendously. Cheers guys!

Sweet! Keep practicing I guess :)

I have been riding mountain bikes for almost 25 years on trails and in the city in my opinion to truly master your cornering go into every corner at speeds you can handle and overtime increase your speed into corners but never by to much eventually you will learn your absolute limit in every aspect of cornering it will become second nature and if your wondering why iam watching this video im just interested to see what these guys think a lesson is im not subbed and i do not take these videos seriously ✌

Actually it's the opposite. Your body should turn inside. It's similar in that you still try to keep your weight over where you have traction

Never thought of it like that. Thanks!

@@TheBigBloakHimself which thought was helpful for you? When you're doing everything right, the outside knee forward really helps. I don't even know if I move my knee 1 cm forward, but somehow it makes me lock into turns and have a lot more front wheel traction confidence.

Correct! The outside grip you should apply the most pressure to retain the front wheel grip.

Yup more gold eh! Just try the magic knee

@@PaulThePunter and dab!

Sweet!