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In the early 90’s , before snowboarding was allowed; yearning for a challenge on my alpine skills, I taught myself how to telemark backcountry ski. In the off-season, on the same slopes I’d mimic the telemark stance riding my bike. It clicked. I’ve been riding swiftly through turns since. For me, the outside leg pegged out style came from imitating dirt track / moto style and all of the old school BMX magazine photos of racers coasting the track berms. It works fine on a smooth surface but once undulations from the inevitable ruts, roots or rocks disturb your balance point , it’s tough to manage the catfight going on between your legs when you’re holding yourself up on a hyperextended stick which is the closest appendage to the downhill tumble. You’ve articulated all of the mechanics very well and have helped me realize that I’ve been lazy about these fundamentals when I’m just cruising around. Not anymore thanks to you. Timely tips ‘cause I just let a new filly into the barn and I’m smitten. Dude, She’s a 27.5 PLUS size , disc brakin’ , 4130 steel is real kurvey klunker thoroughbred that I’ve got life changing plans fer. A bit of more work and I’ll be able to get her an operation in the hindquarters by some techs called Tubus & Rohloff. Then, that’s what I’m gonna do. Load Up & Roll Off to my grand state’s Arizona Trail MTB route. 800 miles from the international fence, traversing northward through Sky island mountain retreats from the scorching desert passage until the way is intercepted by a certain canyon that despite every yearning fiber in my body, my instant original childhood thought when peering down the trailhead on our first family visit… Nope. You’re not allowed to ride your bike down the Grand Canyon. Bummer eh? I’ve daydreamed countless hours for bypassing such restrictions involving a stealth lead painted enduro MTB with a silent hub. infrared shielding camo outfit, night vision and a pack-raft. However rules be damned. Not on this mission. The name of the game is what I believe gentlemen refer to as a portage or brutes may call a ruck. We shall she where I land on the spectrum. One must disassemble their ride and throw the beast on the back for a down and up stroll. To then reassemble and loiter on up to the Utah state line. I’m proud to know that it is the most rugged major scenic thru-trail in the nation. Taking it easy, looking ahead to where I want to go and positive control on points of contact will help me from getting bucked and stranded. Baby chicks in the hand. Bracing pressure on the pedals. Training on the current rigid BMX single speed setup has been terrifically simple and direct which has really helped me tune into fundamentals that 160mm travel rigs are lenient to discipline. It just makes sense to spread the load to more muscle, more joints absorbing the obstacles. In any athletic activity , being in your ready position is rule#1 As Chubbs said, “It’s all in the hips.”

I learned to corner harder by practicing cutties and scandi flicks. It forces you to ride level pedals and use your hips to slash the turn. Another beneficial skill you get is learning available traction and when to expect the back to break loose. From there I’m now starting to pump/compress into and then pop out of the corner without breaking traction. Idk everyone is different

You are the ONLY coach that clarifies the key point, that level pedals are level with the horizon, regardless to the angle of the bike, which I found to be the biggest key to my cornering. 👌

This is a cornering guide for intermediate riders. Love it! Thank you! I have figured this stuff out to a large degree through trial and error (blood, sweat, and a little bit of tears). Yes, people underestimate how important core muscles are. A strong core allows one to “float” over the bars, move their arms/bars without necessarily shifting weight which is crucial.

I started doing this after seeing your previous video on riding level and just flicking the bike back and forth under you into hard corners, banked curves, etc. It completely changed my riding and was a huge level up.

As an ex motorcycle road racer, I started mtb cornering with a hang off style. Lasted a few corners. Quickly adopted a less body lean technique. Then went full on lean the bike and float the cg as needed to balance cornering forces and traction. Level pedals make for easy cg shifts fore/after. Dropped outside pedal sort of forces a fixed for/after center of gravity and thus a fixed contact pressure. Not ideal. Love hearing this discussed.

I'm outside on my bike riding home, and decided to listen to your video while I ride. Your tips are very helpful! I did feel more stable in the lower areas of the bike having pedals even with the ground and pedal pressing while cornering. Outside pedal down didn't have me feeling anymore at an advantage when cornering, and on the trails, I was always worried about my outside pedal hitting a root (which has happened before). Having my torso down and open definitely helped me corner faster; It was immediately noticable. Torso up and opem while down low is also a tip for proper form when doing any type of dead lifts also, so I've mastered that position. Great tips.

My theory is that is on high traction berm or rut turns, more level pedals will provide more control, and more traction. Once the corner starts to go flat, or once the corner becomes loose and traction is going away, no weight on the bars and 90% weight on that basically fully dropped outside pedal. If you watch videos of the best riders in the world, they do the same. Level pedals around a flat gravel turn, is slow, and will have you picking gravel out of your forearms sooner than later.

Another great tutorial! The similarities between your teaching progressions and fundamentals are very similar to teaching skiing. Thank you!!! My progress continues.

I love the way you explain all these things!

Thanks, another great video. Your explanations make so much sense, matching some things I already did without understanding why, and many new things that make for a better ride. I really can't believe how many years I rode pedal down, and now get so much more stable anz safer cornering where can recover from a slide or bump.

Thanks for that explained very well

The whole 'locked body' totally makes obvious sense...thanks dude!

In meinen Augen sind deine tutorials die besten !! Bei denen Erklärungen fühle ich was du genau damit meinst !! Einfach richtig super Erklärt!! Top Top ....😊

Watched this morning, tried out in Willingen Bikepark and blown it! Instand wayy faster cornering! Watching your video improved my skillz instantly, THANK YOU!

Thank you for the video 👍

Good stuff! Inside out, I like your approach.

Game changer for me is/was: - strong core support (also knowing how to activate it) and spine in neutral/healthy position while riding - heels down, level pedals, leaning the bike. Occasionally I drop the outside, especially on the warm up laps until I’m dialed in. Is that bad? I see you drop the outside too on a some example pictures you show. - right frame size and bar height, I personally like a shorter bike and pretty high bar. Everyone is different, don’t go by general recommendation or the looks of how many spacers you use and how much rise your bar has. Some people need very low bars some super high and some can ride the bike in standard config.

great tips

I’ll be racing DH this year for the first time so this is great info. I’ll also use this technique with my BMX racing as well. Thanks 🤘🤙

Brillant! Thanks

Good words bro!

Like your videos so far! Love the velocirax in the background. Just got mine and man what a great rack! 👍

Excelent video, great analysis and teaching! I am training horse stance after you mentioned it in videos. Using 25kg weight now. Feels very good an withstronger core I feel much stronger and athletic.

Dropping the foot has also some advantages. You get lower by the lenght of the crank. If you have short legs then its easier to lean the bike because its not blocked by the saddle. Yes, level pedals give you more stability side to side, but front to back not that much. You stand on both feet but the cranks rotate around the bottom bracket. I think it's the personal preference. I've tried level pedals but I've failed. I corner much better with the fluid pedal movement and dropping the outside foot on the apex of the turn. Maybe it's the muscle memory from the skiing?

I was scared this video was about to tell me ive been doing everything wrong like to one for jumping lol, but turns out my cornering technique is correct. great videos mate!

I'm a bit new to this but I did a lot of messing around during the evening, out with my dog. And I found out that whenever I feel stuck going into a corner, it's because I haven't commited by really opening up my inside hip and knee, and then bringing my outside knee into the frame, almost like I'm trying to push the frame over with my leg. As soon as I noticed that, I was able to corner way better. Definitely have a strong core from weightlifting so that helps. Also love riding with a wedge and more level pedals just because of all the roots and rocks. Level pedals is just my ready for anything position. So yeah, weirdly I can follow most of what you're saying. And from a psychological perspective, that open chest does something in our heads that immediately allows us to feel more like things are ok. I'm a female rider so I use that a lot to help stay calm in more sketchy terrain. Cool video! Hopefully it helps so riders have more fun in corners!

I've tried the platforrm, level feet approach as described here, and the full outside foot down. My sweetspot is what Simon Lawton calls front-foot vs, back-foot turns. Sort of in between, where the outside foot is slightly lower than the other. It does provide a platform, but it puts in, for me, the right amount of asymmetry to encourage the turn while keeping a solid, robust platform, and automatically puts my body in a great position, better (I've found) than with level pedals. Also lends itself to dynamic linking of turns. Once I got it, turning confidence and consistently skyrocketed. Great discussions here on the core/body position.

such a good vid

Throwing your inside leg out does wonders when you need to turn extra hard without washing out.

Haven't watched whole vid but surprised to see as I was lucky enough to ride with Cedric, Peaty, and Minnaar once, and they all recommended dropping a foot if conditions and speed warrant it.

Man.. I have so much trouble with getting it in my head to do corners good and fast.. Just what i was looking for! Gonna try this next time im out!

Drills drills and drills help. There is a great sloping grassy field where I practice fast flat linked cornering without fear.

I would call myself an intermediate rider and can relate to a lot of exsamples you gave. Normally I'm like an intuitive learning guy. Things like the stance was a thing that I made from beginning on, but then tried to change because of the "heels down" approach everyone is giving as advice. There are defenetly moments where I feel stiff on the bike, but dont know why. I will try your recommendations, thanks for that!

I agree with how to use your feet into turns but using the downhill foot on some turns and with the dirt. It helps dig in the nobs into the turn for well leaning the bike when you don't need the body to follow the bars, but for more grip with tire and dirt. After watching this, from riding and racing mtb for years, I do notice my feet are forward and back parallel to the ground, on 95% of the turns. thanks for showing this, I will play it in my shop.

I learned this from Ken Hill Coaching, but a “locked body” as you call, ultimately locks the handle bar, which locks the steering head, and thus the front wheel. You need that front wheel to be free to conform to the imperfections in the trail. Lock body = bad, because front wheel locked. You didn’t explicitly say this, but definitely implied it. Great video!

Great job man I struggle with corners always have but this some how resonated probably talking to teenage girls, ya was that guy to🙏🌎 Anywho once you watch this it’s a fresh approach that can make you a 100% or 50% improved off of what you implement into your technique. I grasped heavily the loading the bike feet level upright in torso Either way win win thank you Brother appreciated this🚵‍♀️

I'm the king of wash outs thanks for this video bro

I didn't even think of this. I naturally level up. It just makes sense. For all those who skipped physics class! 😆

Good advice. Because your material is so good, you would serve yourself better by being more consice on each point.

I just discovered your channel tonight, I've watched a couple of your videos and I'm looking forward to testing to see if I'm immediately able to use this information tomorrow, or if I'll need to practice. I do deliveries on an e-bike in a city that is not walkable and even less bikable, the intersections are basically designed to be uncrossable for cyclists by forcing you to make a sharp right, left, right, straight to cross, right, sharp left, sharp right, just to maneuver around the curbs as you cross an intersection -- combine that with aggressive impatient drivers that don't want to wait one single second for pedestrians or cyclists, at a busy unavoidable intersection, with legal right-on-red, and no pedestrian lights, just merciless traffic lights that are nonstop letting cars go straight, right, left, and the only chance you ever get to cross on a bike is literally the seconds between a light change. But then it's hard to cross with that kind of speed when you've got to slow down to navigate the sharp turns with harsh curbs. I'm hoping that being able to corner better will allow me to navigate these intersections less stressfully and a little more quickly.

Thank you for bringing the undisputable science to these techniques you use and teach. I'm 62 years old. I've been jumping bikes and breaking bones for a bit here, and I have learned from you my young friend . Thanks

Outside foot is for Flat Corners whe you have a camber you balance your foot

Well. I am just going by Aaron Gwins full videos on how to corner. He definitely recommends dropping the outside foot to varying degree based on the situation.

That was super helpful in a number of ways. You're a gifted teacher who has already helped me ride safer and more aggressively. Going to watch it again. Thank you May Jesus Christ bless you and your family

Yeah level pedals, and constantly adjusting for rocks, any locked positions will result in smashed feet and lurching. One of the best early learning is skateparks or pump tracks to become the suspension and grip. Also practicing your lean game on the worst like xc tires on kitty litter, then when you run good tires on grippy dirt it feels like endless grip. Cornering i think is mostly mental to build the confidence and muscle memory to press your weight into the tires.

Great stuff!! I’ve been working on the press pedal position and fluid body position. Do you agree that coming in high on a turn is the best lane choice?

I think it depends on the corner and ideally you can learn what corners you can and can't drop your foot on safely.

Love the info....just could have been a 10 min or less video on just technique without all the off-topic discussion about "stuff".

Your not the only one but damn close. Ive got a drill that i do all the way to the trail head on flat or slight down in the access road. As soon as i don't need to pedal i ride the shoulder and ditch of the road where its loose and uneven and or wet or muddy. My riding buddies call it the wiggle. I drop my seat assume a flat pedal stance, slightly hinge at the hips staying mid to high or open as you say. I then concentrate my weight on my feet and let the bike follow the undulations and ground changes, while staying in relaxed and balanced state when the bike is shifting, sliding. As my body becomes used to this i start to over exaggerate the side to side of the bike to exaggerate the shifting and sliding. keeping the weight right on the wheels and feet only. (Hence "the wiggle")The effect is that you feel like your floating smoothly along with your body but from your feet to the tires is shifting sliding undulating chaos moving everywhere. My goal is to stay in the sweetspot where i feel all my weight moving with the bike while not transferring energy to the torso and head. They just float along. I've been doing this exercise for years on most rides to loosen up and connect with the bike before things get rowdy. As the years have gone on ive started to look way ahead and not really see what the bike is gonna do in front of me so the brain learns where to be when the unexpected happens and shift there naturally,not panic and grab brake which is rarely a good move. I find this teaches the body to be a part of the suspension and braking systems and not just deadweight on them. Great video Been saying everything you've said in it for years, but much less articulate. Thanks for putting into layman's understanding. Ill be following you and recommend you to people who ask for videos to improve. Keep your rubber in the dirt. The Texada Psycholist .

Have you done a review of the Primer? How do you like the Ohlins? Thanks!

It's the difference between railing a corner with berm and riding through flat switchbacks.

I saw some jackwagon in the comments question the foot position of the "wedge" in a previous video, and one of the best things you can do, especially when descending some serious gnar, is the wedge. It really keeps your feel locked on the pedals when you need it most.

Seem to apply equally on road bike. Question: on smooth road surface descends, do you get more traction having the outside leg down vs holding even as in your tip 1? (I tried both methods and both felt fine but just wondering which method would give more traction.)

Drop outside every once in a necessary tight spot but DO switch foot forward based on going left or right. Turning left, right foot forward. Turning right, left foot forward. This allows you to use floating feet and even change your feet positioning through the turn and also weight the outside or inside of your pedals depending on your foot input, which transfers to your tire contact and pushes the "edges" (think ski or snowboard edge) of the tires into the trail/turn. Switch feet!!

I was taught to always keep your feet on the pedals and body position. In addition, these days it looks like most people are riding non clipped pedals.I don't understand always had in the early two thousands and mid two thousands clipless pedals

I am going to be emotional on the bike!!! :D

If dropping the outside foot is Ozempic, then even pedals is Anavar. Haha I’m an “even pedal” guy.

These are good tips. One question I have is, have you ever ridden in socal? Not sure if you have ever encountered the traction conditions we have out here. Everything is super loose and in flat corners the traction is extremely poor. Dropping that outside foot helps you hold that traction in those cases. If you blow through those turns you can have both tires lose traction and you end up laying down with the bike. Very skilled people seem to be able to power slide through turns, but I'm not that cool. I would definitely say that your method is better in pretty much every other kind of situation. Let me know if you have any suggestions for dealing with that.

Dropping outside pedals may be the most common bad advice out there. Its useful in like 5% of corners. Source? Every pro DH racer riding clips + my 20+ years riding experience.

Good info but why the shade on ozempic?

another reason to have a balanced platform is to keep your weight on the bottom bracket, which will keep the center of gravity close to the center of the bike, which will keep the weight split over the front and back wheels and weight is friction on the ground which is traction, too much weight on the front the back will be loose, to much weight on the front and the rear will be loose, F=uN , N is your weight

If I'll hate'em then they must work.

Is there a horse stance video that goes farther in depth ?

Came for the tech advice, stayed for the Mystery Method advice

Mayoris haka, as a kiwi that pronunciation just split my sides . Coffee spit , biscuit choke you name it bawahahahah

It’s does work I tried it the other day it work

find this lesson now AFTER I washed out on the weekend... 🤣

What is your definition of the word ozempic? I have been looking for it and its a diabetic drug.

This comment is probably already been made, but the other reason I've always dropped my outside pedal is that it allows a weightless inside foot to drop in case you start to wash out. I tried this technique today and that kept creeping into my head.. lol..

Like anything hard you need to be fit to be good at it lol . Try skateboarding with a shit core . The horse stance is insane , did Wu chi for a few years . The horse stance will make most people shake in a few minutes . I think biking comes down to experience . Got a new mountain bike for just messing around , it has two cassettes . Would of never known how complicated it was to use . Might get it converted . Or just learn to use them correctly . Sram looks good for someone like me , I'm rather rough lol . I can brake any bike I recon .

Did you realise that in all the left corners, even there is a slight berm, your outward foot is down?? Yes it is. So your inner knee can open so your pelvis and bellybutton can lead the direction. You also get your outer knee to the frame, like when you ski and you want to cut your edges into the slope! I think it also depends which of your feet is the front and back foot.

Time to train the wc dh field then, pretty much all of them drop the outside foot on loose, flat turns.

You turn the bike by rotating the hips period is that simple. Learn how to do that properly and all the rest will follow . Riding it’s very situational sometimes I have my foot down sometimes I don’t sometimes I have both of my hills down sometimes I have the wedge like you call it .

Lol. The highschoolers giving advice on talking to women comment absolutely NAILS the "expert advice" all over youtube. If i learn nothing else from this video, that will stay with me.

I learned two things: To corner and to ask a girl out. I'd say the 20mins was worth it 😎

You people have never rode oversized steel bikes as a kid, have you? The old 28 inch ones where you have to get your legs below the top bar and ride while standing? It seems to me that this entire video is just trying to explain that experience.

Cue this mountainbiking woman chuckling all through her pedal platform....

Ozempic?

No wonder why gravels are selling out right now :D

Subjective

Dropping a foot: Not saying you’re wrong but I will say Gwin, Richie Rude, Dak, and Asa would disagree.

Thank you sir! I'm trying :-) I think it's the best to try to learn outside foot drop and balanced position leaning to the corner. Both are the best :-) Lucky me we have the best practice trails in the city area made by town and MTB community :-) Summer season is just in the beginning so I need to learn my bike again. It takes 3-4 training rides for me to be able to relax and begin to trust the bike. See the new trail section made by town, it's awesome! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iL2heal8uczTZIE.htmlsi=Jl6EHzGqKTUQcd6W&t=82

Ozempic in a world of Fitness. LMAO. Floating platform is the bees knees. Pedal Press...aka Pedal Wedge.

Hi 😊 please learn how to pronounce 'Māori'. Try saying maa-ew-ree not may-oh-ree. Also, for all those reading, some education on Polynesian cultures. The haka is only Māori, other Polynesian islands have similar traditional 'dances', eg Samoa has a 'Siva Tau', Tonga has the 'Sipi Tau', Hawaii has 'Ha'a'.

you say physiological but you mean biomechanical....

Level pedals won't win medals!

Hi honey! Lol

Let me know how your “never drop your outside foot” in flat corners. Shit show is what happens. You have to be VERY VERY VERY clear about your CONDITIONS for technique. This video is a fail because after the first 3 minutes you lost me. Remember be VERY VERY VERY clear about conditions for technique. Oh and there are 2 very simple reason we as riders wash out. 1. The trail literally gives out. Think sand and wet roots. 2. Not enough weight on the bars to hold traction through the turn. Just my opinion. Good luck. I’m out.

Bullshit delivery of information. First you say it's bad, then it's good then it's bad? What?? Pretty disappointed, I think this will confuse new riders even more.

Dude it's taking you ages to get to the point. You're repetitive and that gets me bored ...

havent seen so many bullshit said with such confidence. I especially enjoyed the part of manifestation your inner spirit 🤦‍♂ So you put all your weight on the oustide leg while cornering to stop the wheels to slide outside. The lower your weight the better. It's all about fighting against centrifugal force. That's how the psysics works. If your way or riding on "floating" pedals (as you said) is so cool then why did u decide to put the pic of proper cornering which u criticised xd kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLeSZbh607_Qook.html

Dear lord what a bunch of bs 😏🤡🤡🤡

I only got about a minute two seconds 1:02 in your video before I paused. You said a word that I needed to turn on closed captions to spell. Ozempic. I googled this three different ways and each time it comes up as a medication for diabetes. I must have missed you. What word was it?

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