Probably The Worst Sony Lens for $500

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Probably The Worst Sony Lens for $500

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In this video I review the new Sony 28-60mm F4-5.6 Kit lens, and well, it's not brilliant. Especially for the price.
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@sunepopp 3 жыл бұрын

IMO it's pretty damn great. It's plastic and therefore lightweight. A perfect combo with the a7c. Don't forget it's full frame. 5.6 is decent on a full frame and 4 is even better. For travel scenarios I usually wouldn't shoot anything less than 5.6. My biggest gripe is that it's not 24...or ideally 20mm at the wide end

@Chuck8541 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s small and COMPACT, and at a A7C kit price of about 300 bucks, it’s almost like the lens is perfect for the camera it comes bundled with. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? lol It’s like KZfaqrs that hate on this lens (and the A7C being too small) only read half the marketing info, and then make straw-man complaints about why these items are bad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ “…You can buy this (much bigger) lens for $150 bucks…”, yeah but then why bother with A LENS MADE FOR A COMPACT CAMERA.

@jean-martinvonsiebenthal2836 Жыл бұрын

Yeah while a bit bigger, that Panasonic Lumix 20-60mm seems like a fascinating offering...

@joelmulder 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you’re just wrong on this one. I own all of Sony’s fancy G master zooms, but I still find myself looking at this kit lens because it offers a lot of things no other lenses do. The focal range is good enough, it’s plenty sharp, but most importantly, it’s tiny! Not to mention you can now buy this lens used for around €200, which makes it ab absolute steal.

@geofff6671 Жыл бұрын

Which was kind of his point. He said it would be ok for $200, but not $500.

@alfaromeo6985 11 ай бұрын

Where do you shop to get it for $200? Thanks for the tip.

@lewkon 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like you're trying to find faults, but if someone wants a small zoom lens, there is no alternative. Can't really compare it with larger lenses if this is what someone needs. Also, not zooming smoothly doesn't seem to be a cardinal sin for video. Not everyone zooms during filming (never seen you do it), and for vloggers it doesn't matter if it's not smooth.

@barkatthemoonlunatic1715 3 жыл бұрын

Seems to me like on this lens he gave both the good with the bad.

@diogeneslaertius3365 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like some other company paid him to talk BS about a decent product.

@ciriciri9071 2 жыл бұрын

Dynamic zoom on davinci resolve is much better than manually zooming your lens

@slawomirgromadzki8669 Жыл бұрын

Using with a7c. One of the best kit lenses Ive ever tried. Small, sharp and its flare resistance is amazing. I hvae used various full frame sony, nikon, panasonic cameras and lenses.

@songxiaohu6435 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t agree with you, it’s a very light and good quality lens for 300$, because no one will buy it for 500$, but it’s quite good for its price, and you want to take it everywhere, much less noticeable than the big lens, you will get more shoots with it, content is more important than its optical properties

@davidwallace8980 3 жыл бұрын

If you can't fault its results, you will attack its feel weight etc. It is built as good as any other kit lens, most of which cost a much by themselves.

@kultyura 2 жыл бұрын

I buy this lens for 100$

@uncruckus9345 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually sharper than the sony 28-70, 24-70 f4 and even the sony 24-105

@marumaruko6512 Жыл бұрын

I can just use ur phone if contents matter

@soapa4279 7 ай бұрын

I just got this Kit lens for my A7CR and it's fantastic. It keeps the A7CR compact and I can bring it with me anywhere and even into sports arenas with no questions. Will I use it for any professional work or super insane high quality portraits? NO. But that's why you use the right tools for the right job. This is a very snobby review.

@bingebinge3722 3 жыл бұрын

To me, it looks decently sharp and light weight, which makes it a great travel kit lens!

@bozmundarts2614 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Not like people can just not buy it and be happy...

@UdoKellner 3 жыл бұрын

I got the lens for free with the A1. And I must say, if you need a light weight equipment, like in wilderness ore at expeditions, the lens is perfect. Did some very good shots useable even for exibitions. It is a special kind of lens but in its niche it is very good.

@LeiYoutube 2 жыл бұрын

I found this 28-60mm kit lens is even sharper than 24-70mm f2.8 GM. I can't believe it, is anyone noticed that?

@marumaruko6512 Жыл бұрын

Lol just u Parkinsonism man

@panchajanyagudigar1280 Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why many people are NOT recommending this. I am landscape photographer and bought this for regular focal range and IT IS incredibly sharp corner to corner. Then I bought a samyang 24mm f1.8 lens which has been touted by many as one of the sharpest 24mm primes rivaling even the GMs but it was no match for this ZOOM lens which gave much better corner to corner sharpness and even less vignetting . So if you are looking for a standard zoom lens with hood corner to corner sharpness and ok with the smaller aperture then this is the lens to buy.

@brignole 3 жыл бұрын

I use this lens for videos with gimbal and it is perfect for this kind of use because it's light and the zoom is always more or less at the same length, in general it produces very good images with warm colors. It's not bad at all. I don't understand certain criticisms, who in 2021 records a video by zooming?

@jabbaweezy 2 жыл бұрын

sports videographers

@Imaaam Жыл бұрын

@@jabbaweezy and sport videographers won't use this cheap lens

@BenVallack 8 ай бұрын

Look forward to your ‘I was wrong about the 28-60’ video!

@khmerembasy 3 жыл бұрын

for photos, this lens is actually everything i need in a travel lens rn... super compact and lightweight. If the price drops to $200 range, itll be an automatic pickup for me.

@GravemindHD Жыл бұрын

just got it for 200 mint condition

@TheGreenEggFarm Жыл бұрын

This lens is super sharp and for travel daylight photography is unbeatable for a zoom lens that is super tiny. It serves it's purpose and it's very cheap if you buy it with the A7c. Who cares about the built quality, it is not a professional lenses and 99.9% of us don't go on the jungle to take pictures. :) Love your channel!

@kostyafedot551 3 жыл бұрын

40.5 mm is not an odd filter size. Very common since fifties. If this lens is optically better and much smaller than previous kit lens... it is better lens for photography. Taking pictures of one lady is one thing, taking pictures of family in-doors is f5.6 anyway. It is not about bokeh then, but having all in focus.

@tinplater Жыл бұрын

Love this lens...tiny , cheap, and amazingly sharp. You are just wrong on this review...check all the feedback.

@RyanPerrella 8 ай бұрын

Value is Relative, i value making an A7CR as pocketable and versatile as I can, an RX1zoom or ZV1fullframe , i dont know of another alternative zoom available from anyone that can do what this cheap ($200ebay or $300kit price) and compact lens can do. Not great to base the entirety of the lens on its launched at price….and to focus solely on that totallyRelative PoV. I do really dislike using poorly finished lenses though, it can be all the difference in how much you enjoy photography, maybe the point is that the lens is kinda toylike, and that valid too.

@RyanPerrella 8 ай бұрын

Its also about 1/3 the size of the old and boring 28/70 not just 1/2 the size which again undersells what this lens was designed to do and the role it was developed to fill.

@panchajanyagudigar1280 Жыл бұрын

Bought this on amazon for 275 incl tax and I don’t regret it at all. It is very sharp, compact and cheap. I shoot mostly landscape so I don’t need a fast lens so this is just perfect for me.

@frenzy8539 2 жыл бұрын

You really don’t grasp the purpose of this lens. It’s incredibly lightweight and is a perfect match with the A 7c. Yes, every other lens I own is technically better but on many occasions I just don’t take them because they’re waaaay bigger and heavier. The best lens is the one you carry, not the one that’s stuck at home.

@JapanLovers 3 жыл бұрын

You really don’t get it do you 🤦‍♂️ Its a sharp, full frame zoom lens that weighs only 167g. For people who want that there is no other options and is a great addition to the FE lens line. Compare apples with apples… To talk about the Tamron 28-75 in this video is just random. It’s actually great for video because the lack of focus breathing which is much more important than a smooth zoom. Wtf thinks smooth zooms are where it’s at!? Sorry but this is a derp video especially now the lens has a much lower price new.

@francescafiore7385 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the a7c with the kit lens. I’m really happy with this lens, it’s sharp. It’s more expensive because the lens is made in China And your previous president Trump add tariff on all the product made from China. So don’t blame Sony on the price.

@bjarnejohannsen573 2 жыл бұрын

As a photographer (not video) i find that the lens completes its task with high quality.

@OOTO6667 3 жыл бұрын

Finally ... a lens that I don't want after you review it. Thanks!

@jukeboxjohnnie 3 жыл бұрын

pity, its actually a gem that performs well on higher megapixel sonys

@CarlBergsdorf 3 жыл бұрын

My wallet loves that lens! ;)

@nosignal7156 3 жыл бұрын

I think Arthur was a little bit off about the flare control. The images he showed actually displayed some incredible shots even though he aimed directly at the sun.

@achelseaphotographer 3 жыл бұрын

It actually is a fantastic lens, and worth every dollar...

@diogeneslaertius3365 2 жыл бұрын

If that BS expert told you to eat excrement, would you also blindly follow his "valuable" advice?

@patrickmacdonald5367 3 жыл бұрын

I bought it with the A7C and sold it on eBay immediately, which helped defer the cost of the pricey body, so in that case, a great lens!

@bhargavsharma9241 3 жыл бұрын

Now thats good value. Unfortunately I knew, I had no chance of selling the lens in my area. So I just bought my A7C Body Only.

@NickL0VIN 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect

@KingofStreet3 3 жыл бұрын

Best positive post about the lens.

@croppermc 3 жыл бұрын

Based on your test photos in your video, it is a WAY sharper lens than the 28-70. I'm talking center frame. Are you unable to see that? I agree it isn't worth $500 but as a kit lens that is $200-300 over body-only it is a stunning accomplishment. Also, it is amazing option for travel and backpacking.

@jgoodtime 3 жыл бұрын

this lens is a good little lens, the price alone is too high, but with the A7C it's a very good kit lens. all the tests are unanimous and say that the lens is very good and much better than the old kit lens. And one huge advantage of the lens is the size say it's the worst kit lens: NO, say the lens is too expensive on its own: YES.

@mttrocks 2 жыл бұрын

A very compact Full Frame lens that fits perfectly with a7c. Even on a high-res a7r4 the lens is still sharp enough to resolve the details. My back and shoulder still couldn't stop thanking me since I switched from those heavy 24-70 or 24-105 to this little baby. To each his own I guess.

@DerbJd Жыл бұрын

The whole point of this lens is to buy it with the A7C as a kit and save money on the total separate cost. I have three A7C cameras, all with the kit lens, plus a Sony 24-105 f4 G OSS lens on one of them and a Sigma M11 Canon adapter to use my L-serires Canon glass on another. The kit lens is great quality and convenience. $350 would be better as a separate price.

@robodobo222 3 жыл бұрын

This lens is great, at least for what it meant to be used for. I bought the A7C because it is compact, this lens is compact. Sure it's cheapish but its small and discrete, it retracts and I love using it. I also have the Sigma 24-70 2.8, great lens but real mismatch. Don't be put off buying the 28-70 if you want something small and compact.

@danielgraham667 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Rob, I was actually thinking about getting the Sigma 24-70 for my A7c. Curious what you meant when you said it was a mismatch? Thanks!!

@robodobo222 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielgraham667 Hi Daniel. What I meant was the size of the Sigma 24-70 compared to the A7C. I still have the Sigma and probably will never sell it, as it's fantastic in every way. It lives on my camera. If I were you you, I would buy it. Thanks

@danielgraham667 2 жыл бұрын

@@robodobo222 Appreciate your response!

@bjarnejohannsen573 2 жыл бұрын

”t's the least talented who spend the most time worrying about lens sharpness and blame crummy pictures on their equipment rather than themselves. Skilled photographers make great images with whatever camera/lens is in their hands”. -Kenn Rockwell

@marumaruko6512 Жыл бұрын

Than why don’t you use phone only? Then why r u here?

@TheDIYFilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын

I use this lens and I can say that they are great for travelling and outdoors in general. It is not about tech specs, but real life usage. Of course, I agree, it is not good indoors. Cheers!

@arsulaksono881 Жыл бұрын

agree, i just bought this lens for my incoming holiday. i dont mind the f/4-5.6 as I'll carry my voigtlander 40/1.2 for low lights

@Thekennel177 7 ай бұрын

Used around $250. New with camera $300. Not bad in my opinion. It sharp, small and lightweight.

@chuckcarter847 2 жыл бұрын

I love this little lens - I don't think I'd pay $500 for it - though when I got it as a kit lens for my new A7C it was $300 - and more importantly, I find that I am having fun again shooting with it. Not the fastest, but with the capabilities of the new A7C it's more an adequate as a kit lens - perhaps the best kit lens Sony has ever made. The Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di III RXD Lens is my go to lens in this range. But I'm finding I keep both of these handy when shooting. The smaller lens is just as sharp - has amazing AF matched to the A7C and is less conspicuous when navigating street shooting or an event trying to capture spontaneous moments or wandering a crowd all wearing MAGA gear and trying to stay under the radar to capture some "interesting" moments. :0) So personally I really like this little lightweight and very sharp little gem.

@vipingkumar 7 ай бұрын

I bought the 28-60 with a7c few days ago. It serves its prupose. And the lens is so sharp and great.

@LuminorBeats 2 жыл бұрын

you might have some points but all of the things you pointed out are really not that big of a deal: -it's a kit lens exclusively made for the A7C. no one would spend $500 on this for using it on another camera. -nobody will really notice all those "flaws" unless you do a side by side comparison looking for them. -full frame sensors tend to have a very good behaviour with high ISO so the end result would be more or less the same even if the aperture is not as wide as we would like. -it's not brilliant in any aspect in particular but it can do all of them pretty decently, for many people i think it would be the only lens they need.

@maesc2001 2 жыл бұрын

All the reasons I like this lens.

@I922sParkCir Жыл бұрын

Going on a 19 mile hike up a 11,500 peak tomorrow with my favorite trail setup: this lens on my a6400. Going to hike the John Muir Trail again with my A7C and this lens. Can you think of a better lens that is light, compact and weather sealed for trips like this?

@erenteker6908 Жыл бұрын

I bought the a7c with this kit lens for 1575$ complete bargain. Brand new of course

@benjaminthorpe7990 3 жыл бұрын

This is unfair. This has been purposely created to be sold in a kit. The separate price encourages consumers to buy the kit with deals. No one buys this for £500 - they buy it second hand

@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know, some people prefer buying their lenses new, and if it is offered for $500, they are paying those prices. I agree with you about buying it second hand though - much smarter with a lens like this.

@bruck177 3 жыл бұрын

Angry Arthur is the best Arthur

@AlvinDedeauxFlyFishing 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@jre617 3 жыл бұрын

Hardly angry, it's just an opinion.

@cdavey7654 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually one of my favorite lens's for hiking/backpacking (if I am wanting to not carry a lot of weight), it's small and light with surprisingly good image quality (for what it is). I got mine bran new for $240 - look around, you should not have to pay full price for this lens. I would highly recommend it, if it fits what you are looking for. Every lens has its pros and cons. The Tamron you mention is a decent lens sure (specially the newer G2 version, which I might buy also), but it's also a lot more money, a lot bigger, and a lot heavier. The old kit lens is also way bigger/heavier, and from the comparison reviews I have seen, way worse picture quality. This lens seems more comparable to the tiny Samyang/Rokinon primes (size and weight wise), but then you only get one focal length... 🤷🏼‍♂️

@rene.s.s 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the old 28-70 for $130 taxed and shipped used from Adorama to basically use as my sensor cap. This new lens was intriguing but just the price and specs made me hold off. Now I’m really glad I did.

@Alexandrosflower 3 жыл бұрын

I find it surprisingly sharp, but cheaply made. A7c is a threat to the aps-c line, I guess. Sooo much anger Arthur. Look inside the lens you must.

@0ooTheMAXXoo0 3 жыл бұрын

A7c is larger in volume than the original A7...

@Alexandrosflower 3 жыл бұрын

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 it‘s small, but not Fuji x-e4 small. Next week it seems small lenses will be released (24/40/50)

@Saxymancan Жыл бұрын

So far I have found this lens to be a perfect partner for the A7C, its sharp across the range, even wide open, close it down a few stops and things improve still further, but more importantly, for a travel photography point of view its perfect. We'll have to dissagree on this one fella.

@evrythingis1 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because there are tons of other full frame zoom lenses that fit in a jacket pocket....

@youbian 10 ай бұрын

Compact Gs have entered the…

@sl-rt5kv 10 ай бұрын

It seems to me that the whole point of this lens is that it is possibly the lightest full frame normal zoom. Secondarily, the lens still manages to deliver good images in a weather resistant package in spite of the light weight. Since you cannot recommend this lens, what full frame normal zoom can you recommend, at any price, that delivers decent images in a package as small and light weight as this one?

@DerbJd Жыл бұрын

Whan I use mine for video, I am not fussed about the lack of smooth zoom as I use a gimbal and physically move the camera. And I use f5.6 from the start so if I do zoom in and out, there's no alteration to the exposure.

@dazxmedia 3 жыл бұрын

most other sources point out not only the improvements in color and sharpness but also the af speed particularly in video, which you never even mentioned...anyone doing a proper video isn't going to be zooming in and out with the lens anyways.

@user-kc7gd7ux6r 7 ай бұрын

hi i am not sure if you can see this, if i can get a brand new one for 150$ for my A7cr should i do it?

@j16m02 3 жыл бұрын

I would agree with you that $500 is ridiculous, but when you are the only game in town..... Maybe $200 would be reasonable. But, with regards to it's usefulness as a kit with the A7C I disagree.There was a discussion over on dpreview and the OP had ordered the A7C without the kit lens and was looking for an all in one lens. This was part of my response on not including the kit lens suggesting he reconsider not purchasing it. "There is a good reason Sony made this camera body combination. You can extrapolate this scenario to your own circumstance, but let's say you and your partner are in Paris and you have spent the morning walking with the Tamron 28-200mm. You get back to your room and your partner says, hey let's go down to that little bistro and get a croque-monsieur and a glass of wine. Do you really want to take Tamron to lunch? Have you seen the size of those little tables? LOL In this circumstance, and many other you can imagine, where photography isn't your primary goal, you'll be thankful you have that little lens. Yes, it's slow and really only a 2X zoom range, but that's ok. Not every lens can be a constant f2.8 and fit the niche that this lens does, and not every occasion calls that type/size of lens. Optically, it's more than good enough and nicely fills the compact kit requirement." My 2 bits.

@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with that statement. For those moments where you want a compact lens that is pocketable, it makes sense, and if you aren't paying over $300 for it, more justifiable.

@Benderlaiv 3 жыл бұрын

In all honesty, in the evening an f4.5 lens isn't gonna do anything good for you. I'd rather have a pancake prime with an f2.8 aperture for half the price.

@j16m02 3 жыл бұрын

@@BenderlaivSorry, I didn't mean to imply that it could be your all around travel lens. If I ever get to travel again, my kit would include the Tamron 28-200, and a small fast prime for 90%-95% of my shooting with this little guy tucked in my bag for occasions like I described above. Definitely not a low light lens, though I gotta say, having rented the A7C, I was very impressed with the high ISO performance compared to my A6600 or even my A7R III.

@Benderlaiv 3 жыл бұрын

@@j16m02 Oh yeah I got that. What I mean is if you're concerned with portability, a 35 f2.8 pancake would be a better choice then this zoom. When I bought my a6400 I took the kit with the 18-135, and bought a SEL20F28 separately exactly for the occasions you described (work and romantic dinners). I just don't see where this lens fits, in what scenario i'd rather have this then a Samy :\

@boffib0ff1 3 жыл бұрын

This is a lens that must be bought as a kit or used in a few years, when it reaches the prices of the 28-70mm. At the list price of $500 it doesn't make any sense

@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын

i think it’s perfect for what it is sorry but it doesn’t make any sense to compare it to anything else because it’s a standard zoom and makes the a7c pocketable, two things that no other lens does simultaneously

@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 жыл бұрын

True and it would be fine if it was free with the a7c. It's not and I can't see a reason why it's $500 other than Sony being a bit full of themselves.

@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Don’t agree, people that want a pancake standard zoom have this as their only opinion and i think it really is a very good lens overall for the size of weight, sony can afford to leave the price like that because there is nothing like it in the market

@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 жыл бұрын

@@campa_t For a Sony... you can get a similar-sized lens for the Canon M50 MKII for $100. You could get an adapter and fit it to the a7 and it would be cheaper. Or just buy a go pro I used one for years as my main camera and if you want small it delivers. So there are options just not from Sony.

@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough the e mount is the full frame mirrorless ecosystem with the most lens options and the only one to have a standard zoom this small so it’s the best for people like me, who want good professional lenses but also a super compact zoom for when you want to transform your a7 into an rx compact camera you clearly know very little about photography if you tell me you can adapt an m mount lens to another mirrorless mount, and also you cannot compare full frame cameras with an aps-c, there is a reason why it’s a fraction of the cost: smaller sensor and way worse specs overall. And when you mentioned the gopro i laughed really hard... Bro that has a fixed ultra wide angle and a minuscule sensor, it’s good for taking selfies and action shots, it’s just a completely different type of product

@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 жыл бұрын

@@campa_t You know nothing of the gopro then... It's really good for video in general and like I said I used it on my channel for years. The only reason why I am upgrading to an M50 is for a bit more clarity and because my external mic adapter broke on me. I will miss the compactness and price tag both the A7 does not have mind you. So like I said unless you want to see text up close like unboxing a card it's really good.

@DarrellYoung 2 жыл бұрын

I use this as the walk-around lens on my Sony A1. I have most of Sony's GM lenses, so I have a choice. It's an extremely sharp lens edge to edge. NO ONE pays $500 for this lens. It is sold as a kit and it is available on all sites for about $250 to $300. It is a 4-5.6 lens, not 4.5-5.6. This is Probably the Worst Video I've Seen for Free.

@MrFL08 Жыл бұрын

So I’m using this lens on an a6500 alongside a 10-20mm zoom. Meaning 15mm to 90mm in a super compact set. And apsc sensor of course cuts out all the slightly soft corner performance too.

@Gnarux 3 жыл бұрын

Its what ive looked for for mountain-hiking! Weight ist everything

@49Ibanez 3 жыл бұрын

For the same price you could almost get two of the samyang/rokinon compact primes, you'd have to be really committed to zooming to opt for this if it wasn't included in your bundle

@Chris-ey7zy 3 жыл бұрын

I think for the price, I’d get the small rokinons 28, or 35mm and a 50’mm combo. Small yet 2.8

@marknathan7744 2 жыл бұрын

You are wrong you get compactness great build weather sealed and is great optically !

@shanefox61 Жыл бұрын

It's basically a pancake zoom lens, as small and lightweight as can be imagined. Add weatherproof sealing. Put it on a a77c and It's about as good as you can get for a carry all day and everywhere travel camera that isn't a tank. These "negatives" are common to all pancakes, but this has zoom that covers the range of all other prime pancake lenses on the market. This lens isn't an update of the 24-70. It's really in a completely different category. And two years later, you can find one in great shape for around $200.00. I love this lens.

@codeofcodedotorg 3 жыл бұрын

I think you should have mentioned the Samyang 35mm f2.8 here. Yes it’s not a zoom lens but it’s better in every way. I think Sony should have made a retractable prime lens here like a 24mm f2.8 pancake.

@andrewmanzanero9315 Жыл бұрын

I just picked up this lens ( used) for about $190 and a Sony a7 iii ( used, with 75,xxx shutters) for about $1200. After reading the comments I feel better about choosing this lens and looking forward to shooting 🙂

@mondotv4216 3 жыл бұрын

I have to say - even viewing on my iPad it blows the old kit lens out of the water for sharpness and contrast. Yes it’s overpriced, but as a small, light travel lens it makes a lot of sense. And while I’d prefer my 12-24mm for wide angle and real drama, 28mm on a full frame is a lot wider than it is on APS-C.

@BoxxyFan 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. APS-C is actually wider as the standard 18mm is usually 27mm equiv. So i fail to see how this 28mm is wider than a 27mm.

@ralfwindte5986 2 жыл бұрын

@@BoxxyFan A 28mm on a FF body results in a wider angle of view than a 28mm on an APS-C body. I think this is what MondoTV intended to say and he is right with that.

@Bluebrain Жыл бұрын

Sony can charge this amount of money because there is no single competitor. There is no other lens on the market that does even come close to the tiny size of the SEL2860.

@SchyllingWhistle Жыл бұрын

So which lens has better image quality the 28-70 or the 28-60?

@nadeemafzal8984 2 жыл бұрын

IMHO - the old kit lens is not great at all - was so glad to get rid - sharpness vignetting you name it This 28-60 is amazing in contrast and love the lens 28-60 is magic on A7c and ever since this lens i have not used a single prime which are now all sold off - for me covers all these primes 28mm 35mm 50mm and 60mm it could be a good lens bad lens situation with me however see some of the reviewers below have a similar view to me Please keep on coming re reviews - i enjoy your perspective about photography kits

@martingraf6974 Жыл бұрын

I agree about the 500 bugs - that's too much. I bought mine for 220 Euro used. But I just love this lens for its small size and very good picture quality on my a7ii. I had tried the 28-70 before - and I hated it because of its performance at 28mm and I had tried the 2,0/28mm - again bad experience but probably I just had bad luck with mine because of sample variations. The smallish 28-60 does everything right - I use most of the time f 5,6 at 28mm or f8 at 60mm and it then does an excellent job in land- and cityscape but also family events etc. Mainly because it is only 28-60mm range the image quality and the size can be that good. For me it still replaces at least 2 lenses because I found that I mainly use both extremes - 30% the 28mm range, 10% 40mm and 60% the 60mm.

@nerilab 8 ай бұрын

I often look at your reviews and I really like them. In this case I would like to point out that, in my opinion, the premise is wrong. The 28-60 is a lens to be bought exclusively in kit package, period. Then it is light, sharp, compact and resists flare well. And, if bought in a kit package (or used), it is also cheap. The only real limit is the reduced zoom range...Cheers!

@hdwblade 2 жыл бұрын

It's only $300 when you buy it with the camera... Still not worth it? I just bought an A7C with this lens for $1250, it should be fine, right..??

@taylorTSAI888 Жыл бұрын

I get this lens for 150 USD on 2nd market, it works fine fine with my A73. The weight is the most key consideration to me as a father with jumpy kid. But totally not worth for 500, you can always get this from users purchase a7C kit set and want to get rid of it.

@Budfrog23 4 ай бұрын

As a kit lens it's a lot less that $500 and provided you are aware of it's limitations it can work well as a travel lens IMO in conjunction with a body that has a smaller form factor. Anyone who has flown on budget airlines in Europe will know exactly what I mean. It's a good little walkaround lens for daylight and if you have a little prime with you for lower light then you are pretty much good to go.

@RileyJohnson37 2 жыл бұрын

I found this little gem for $190 sitting in my local camera shop used (if at all?). I'm putting it on my A6300 to get a little smaller footprint. I traded in my old Nikon Gear to get a few lenses for my Z7II (picked up a 14-30mm and 24-200, to make up for trading my old 80-200/2.8D which couldn't focus automatically on my Z7II). Along with those, I had a little extra store credit and dropped it on this and a 120gb CF B card for the Z7II. I've got the Tamron 11-20, the Sony 18-135, and this now for the A6300 and as a landscape and still photographer, I think this is going to make a great in between lens that is much smaller and much more compact than the other two. I'll be able to use it in much more "covert" situations such as street photo, etc.

@MasticinaAkicta 3 жыл бұрын

So, new design but no reason to upgrade to. Cool. Though. to be fair, a smaller lens on an Asomething design is never a bad idea. It is just that the old design also works? It also was light!

@KeAiFu 3 жыл бұрын

Comparing it with the Nikon 24-70/4S lens, Nikon's kit lens is the better choice, but it is much bigger. If someone is looking for a small, full frame zoom for street photography, only Sony can offer a suitable lens, and meanwhile we can find offers below 300 USD.

@rajeshsarkar2287 5 ай бұрын

why do you compare this lens with the big lens? I need a small full-frame lens for casual daily photography. in which I need compactness (in the bold letter), we have a lot of sharp, big, bulky lenses), a little bit of zoom capability, and sharpness. I can buy used lens for cheap ( between 200-300) like you suggest in your other video. please suggest a lens for a Sony full-frame camera under 300$ with a similar size and better quality. waiting for your response .. Thanks

@DavidGBlair 8 ай бұрын

Great lens. What is wrong with plastic?

@foljs5858 2 жыл бұрын

1) Reason 1: it feels cheep (well, duh! it's is cheap). As a kit, it's also the cheapest option. Plus "feels" doesn't mean anything concrete. 2) Reason 2: the range. BS, it's just fine for video, and most casual photography. 3) Reason 3: "very marginal improvement", B.S still an improvement. And quite more compact. 4) Reason 4: zooming in and out while recording video? What is this, a 1995 camcorder?

@Simoxs7 4 ай бұрын

TBH Nowadays you can get one for 200-250€ and it would be a nice upgrade for the APS-C Kit lens if it had OSS…

@sammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 3 жыл бұрын

this kit lens actually selling $150-170 out there.... at least in my country, no one going to buy this cheap build lens for $500, but this is really good when you travel, one small zoom lens + one prime lens instead of a huge tamron 28-75/2.8

@DjimmyTrovy 3 жыл бұрын

I don't have it but to me, from what I've seen, it looks like a very good lens. I kinda want one, well not for $500, of course.

@NAM3L3555 3 жыл бұрын

The old lens you can buy in second hand around 110€ I think its a good price for the quality but 500€ for the new model its a joke

@rene.s.s 3 жыл бұрын

You can probably get this in a year or so used for ~200

@Gordonafloat 2 жыл бұрын

The price isn't an issue as "like new "copies are available used at a fraction of the new price. It's a perfect travel companion with a couple of Samyang tiny fast primes.

@Saber422 3 жыл бұрын

Do you consider to compare a6400+Tarmon1770 with a7c+24105G？ want to hear your comment

@outolempinimi5165 3 жыл бұрын

250 bundled with the body ain’t much and its size and weight makes it good option for compact daytime travel lens, no need to expect anything else from it.

@benficaM8888 3 жыл бұрын

right now this lens cost like $250. which makes it very worth it imo. it's a much better lens than the other kit lens.

@olegvorkunov5400 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great review.

@SourPlanet 2 жыл бұрын

For$500 it doesn't add up. It's a keeper kit lens for portable street shooting, though. I'm keeping it just for that. I know"on paper" it's lacking... but damn if it doesn't deliver solid shots every single time. On the A7C at least. I can't imagine it on any other camera.

@Zobeid 3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly (to me at least), it's about the same price as a Pentax-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 Limited, which covers almost the same zoom range (albeit on APS-C). I once had the 20-40mm Limited and loved it. The Sony is smaller and lighter, and is full-frame, so should it be worth more? But wait, the Pentax lens is all metal and definitely has build quality. Hmm. . .

@slimphotog 3 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for the day when a quality K-mount to E-mount adapter will let me use my Pentax lenses on my A6400.

@boysherman 3 жыл бұрын

Not meant to be $500. Think of it as $350 at most.

@keystonebrotherb 3 жыл бұрын

Only a $300 add on when purchasing A7C body. I’d get it. Sharp AF.

@keystonebrotherb 3 жыл бұрын

$315 direct from Seoul SK.

@ydnewxela 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comments. I was just about to go for this lens just for the light weight and size!

@arfazhoosein6274 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a comparison between the m50 mark II and the Sony a6400?

@Vitaliy250 3 жыл бұрын

it would be fun to see how it compares to16-50mm kit lens)

@henrikf.1247 3 жыл бұрын

If the 1650 on my a6xxx would have the same optical performance as my 2860 on my A7x, then I'd be really happy, but unfortunately this is not the case 😜

@wefhy 3 жыл бұрын

Sooo basically it'd do better to buy 28mm prime and just crop it in post?

@NAM3L3555 3 жыл бұрын

Save money and buy 28-75 2.8 , 500€ for a kit lens it's a joke

@wefhy 3 жыл бұрын

@@NAM3L3555 Yeah, but 28-75 is pretty big too

@MrAyybee2cold 3 жыл бұрын

@@wefhy then just use an iPhone 13-52/65 and would probably give you similar results and it’s lighter. I mean why not when people complain about size and weight of cameras and fast lenses. The A7III is the smallest digital camera id want to use.

@CokeAndRuffles 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe some points are right, maybe some are wrong. But all I know is that this is the first and last of this guys videos that I watch.

@anbar5675 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed totally about the price, but it is also true that I want badly the new kit lens. Portability combined with good IQ is a must for me, even at the cost of that "cheap feeling".

@paigecfrancis 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. The lens you didn’t know you don’t need.

@paigecfrancis 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely don’t want it 😂

@TheMonsieurSalty 3 ай бұрын

I wish our technology will someday reach the point where we can have a lens this size with a constant aperture of 2.8. Hell, even a constant f4 would be amazing.

@BoxcarsWorld 3 жыл бұрын

When you say you might as well pick up the "old kit lens", which lens is that?

@axmf55 3 жыл бұрын

It's the Sony FE 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS

@valetdecour 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you, you save me money !! 👍🏻

@urbanie 7 ай бұрын

i have the old kit lens which i got with my a7iii and i have to say i wasnt disappointed with it, it was light and small enough, good autofocus, wasnt terrible in sharpness and provided a good zoom range for my needs at that time. on the other hand, this seems like a good option maybe for travel or street photography, but since i used the old kit lens mostly for amateur video i feel like it would prove to be overall better. in general this 28-60 seems like something you would get bundled with a sony NEX or an a6000